REVIEW - Moto Guzzi V85 2024! Is that still enough?

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@BuffaloweRider 10 ай бұрын

I HATE reviewers complaining about the lack of a quick shifter! It ain't that kinda ride man. Be like complaining about lean angle of a cruiser. It's why I personally don't want one, but it's not a fault if that's your thing. I've actually been waiting to buy the tt travel because of the impending release of the new stelvio but I, in my opinion, think that the stelvio is too much tech where with the new upgrades to the tt is just about right for me. I think that I'm pulling the trigger on the tt travel this year. It's not a sports bike so quick shifter and chain drive and whatever other aggressive sports bike bits are not needed and I am not interested in competing with a gs or Ducati. Just enough tech to help and just enough suspension for when the asphalt on the pass turns to shit. Comfortable, capable and not breaking the bike. Not to mention unique, right up my alley.

@anaru5643 10 ай бұрын

Nailed it, totally agree, with all points made

@brentharrington9235 9 ай бұрын

You won't be disappointed. If what you want is a reliable, compliant, comfortable, stead that can do just about anything, it's a great choice. If you know what it is, and that's what you want, you will be very happy.

@rickyricardo9918 8 ай бұрын

It's useful info, especially considering he's reviewing the 2024 models which includes the road biased Strada model. The type of roads he's on when he mentions this is where it could work well, 10:45. I would agree he over emphasized disappointment and failed to mention the after-market parts availability for such things. Overall he projects a really nice package there though.

@PAULRIGBY-lm7gb 7 ай бұрын

100% right. I can't understand anyone riding a V85 n even thinking about a quick shifter, it's not adding anything it's taking away something. Then again I have a quick shifter on a BMW that I never use. Maybe my next lap of Spa Francorchamps I'll give it a nudge?

@zoranpetkovski8408 7 ай бұрын

Totally agree with you . . . those who like all these driving aids just have to buy a SCOOTER!!!.

@Twentyfourvalves 10 ай бұрын

I bought a 2023 V85TT Travel last year. I had not purchased a brand-new bike in many years, but the specs, weight, looks and principally, ease of DIY maintenance, convinced me to con myself into trading my R1200GSA on it. While the wind management on the BMW was perfect for me, a cocoon of comfort, I found it to be absolutely horrid on the V85TT Travel. I came very close to selling it or trading it back in for something else during the first one thousand miles of use. I tried an aftermarket windshield, I tried a Laminar Lip, I tried the standard lower windshield from the basic spec bike, but nothing would change the paint-shaker style buffeting it created on my head. It was maddening!!! Diving deep into the Moto Guzzi forums, someone recommended the MRA X-Creen as a solution. I purchased one as a last resort, mounted it to the original factory windscreen and thankfully, it helped immensely. You see, the buffeting was so bad, but so bad, that it was impossible to focus on what was good about the bike. As I was able to shift the focus from the buffeting, to the rest of the motorcycle as a whole, I have fallen in love with it. After almost fifty years of continuous riding, and having owned dozens upon dozens of motorcycles, the V85TT really brings so much character to the table that it is impossible not to appreciate it. Superb handling, excellent fuel range, adequate power, lovely airbox growl, very comfortable seat and seating position. When travelling, I can ride 400 miles a day with ease on it, almost no fatigue, and most impressively, how does Moto Guzzi gets the bike to stay cool with only 1.9Q of oil on an air-cooled engine? It also consumes almost no oil at all, even when ridden very hard, which is most of the time. It would be nice to know if the 2024 V85TT Travel Windshield and wind management accessories would fit the 2023 model.

@karelkrticka2786 9 ай бұрын

I hear you. My solution is De Byl Tech Wind deflectors + Puig Touring Windscreen. It seems to cure the problem.

@trevorkarrett3041 9 ай бұрын

@@karelkrticka2786yep, I have the same setup and it's pretty solid. I also have a cheap eBay laminar lip I can clip on for long rides if I'm especially worried about it, but it's a bit annoying and ugly IMO so I don't run it unless I'm planning a very long ride.

@nickzourb190 9 ай бұрын

How tall are you?

@Twentyfourvalves 9 ай бұрын

@@nickzourb190 I am 6'0" with a 29" inseam.

@Twentyfourvalves 9 ай бұрын

@@karelkrticka2786 Yes I also have the De Byl deflectors. I wish I could find a real "cure" for the issue. The stock windscreen with the MRA X-Creen improves it dramatically, but I must live with high wind decibel levels, which is better than the paint-shaker style buffeting. Your Puig screen really "cured" it completely at all speeds?

@chrissunde1104 10 ай бұрын

Love the v85tt. Amazing accomplishment to keep this bike improving in the era of rapidly increasing emissions regulations. I own a 2021 and it has been a reliable work horse; an excellent rough road tourer.

@pauld.b7129 8 ай бұрын

Can't say the same for the V7iii. I own one, but the suspension is my main gripe. Personally, I think the v85 is probably the best bike Guzzi makes all around. Still has that great engine, but built to be ridden in real world conditions. I like the styling too. Id say it's probably the best looking ADV ever made.

@mac22011964 5 ай бұрын

In a bid to downsize from my 2012 BMW GSA I took a ‘22 v85tt for a test ride. It felt a little lifeless BUT the biggest issue was buffeting. I couldn’t really concentrate (or relax) on the ride. It also seems those on the forums had not found a solution either. Also at 184cm tall my leg was fouling the cylinder…. so I passed. Based on this review I got another test ride on a Tour and boy what a difference. I took my MRA x screen with me and slid it on the screen. At all speeds I had buffet free and quiet running. I also had a go on a TT which whilst OK was not as good. So, the winglets do a good job on the Tour. Also, I had more knee room I guess as a result of the changed cylinder head??. But the biggest change was the motor and gear change. All I can say is the the motor seemed “alive”. Much more punchy off the low throttle coming out of a corner and MUCH smoother gear change….or so it seemed based on my last experience. So, I ordered one😊

@TK-cl1jm 23 күн бұрын

Tour? Do you mean Travel? Has the buffeting problem been addressed, or only using your aftermarket attachment?

@DraganBakema 8 ай бұрын

I have a v85tt centenario 2021. 45.000 km, zero problems. I had one complaint and that was the gear indicator- button. It was not tactile enough. And they changed exactly that! Perfect. Now its a perfect bike.

@kevinlunney5608 10 ай бұрын

Love my v85 - My favorite bike

@InuitWolf 10 ай бұрын

Great review of the new and improved V85TT. Looking forward to seeing the new V85TT & Stelvio models in 🇦🇺 hopefully around September or sooner? As for QuickShifters? I had this on my 2018 BMW F750GS and I only used it once or twice to try and I have to say I didn’t like it. Found myself using the clutch all the time. QuickShifters should be left to racing sports bikes, not ADV’s.

@mrsilbo6499 10 ай бұрын

Excellent review. Can't wait to test the Strada.

@saddle8bag 3 ай бұрын

I wish they'd offer the color choices for every model. I love the red and white one, but want the touring features.

@ekimandersom4478 9 ай бұрын

It’s the only relatively good looking adventure bike.

@juliemcgillivray3394 10 ай бұрын

Love the appearance of the white and red TT. Old school, authentic bike with some hidden modern updates.

@ozyrob1 8 ай бұрын

I like it too but I could live without the huge V85 on the tank. I like the red and white on the 2022 version too. The accessories that come standard on the travel are great but the paint isn't for me. I'd just buy the red and white one and pay through the nose fitting all the good stuff.

@TVGuapoArcade 2 ай бұрын

@@ozyrob1 I'm with you. I absolutely hate the giant V85 on the tank. It's what has turned me off from buying a new one. Is it a decal that can be removed or is it part of the paint?

@akiuliano 10 ай бұрын

Huge fan of all Guzzis. I cannot believe they are not more popular here in the states.

@jala6707 10 ай бұрын

I believe that is almost entirely as a result of the lack of dealers. Potential buyers don't want to travel 300 km or more for a visit to the nearest dealer. Here in Canada it is even worse. Piaggio should heavily invest in more dealers to prevent losing North America completely.

@brentharrington9235 9 ай бұрын

Americans are obsessed with numbers, stats, specs and getting "THE BEST" this or the top rated that. Guzzi simply doesn't appeal to this mentality.

@984francis 8 ай бұрын

Mental health.

@Michael-ti1gn 6 ай бұрын

I've got a 2021 V7, and a 2023 Travel, I wouldn't trade them for ANYTHING!! How'd the Italians lose the war? Odd, all my Italian friends ride Harleys.

@curtissmith8789 6 ай бұрын

@@jala6707 I agree 100%. I've only ridden three Guzzis, and I've really enjoyed the ride. I haven't tested a 85tt, but recently have tested a new Stelvio. That's a nice bike. I think their dealer network is very poor in North America. If they could get that locked down, I think the product would sell itself. I'm lucky enough to have two dealerships within two hour ride. One is only 25 minutes away. Traveling across the country, that's a different story. Few and far between.

@armadilllo 9 ай бұрын

A quick shifter would shave off 3 milliseconds in my next GP race, so bummed it doesn't have one.

@tedmarakas2626 2 ай бұрын

Why would anybody want a quick shifter on a bike like this is a mystery to me. In fact, the less rider aids a bike has the better for me. I like the old school rides where I can be in command and not some stupid computer.

@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 9 ай бұрын

Reference comment on the OEM screen, I can HIGHLY recommend the uK Palmer bracket ( that you put on the windscreen bracket ) and then any off the other screens on it - even the original it adjusts up and down front and back , it fantastic and probably even better than the new 24 model screen .Also THANKYOU for the English version ( the only one ☝️ so far on the new V85tt )

@sommebuddy 7 ай бұрын

Sorry...I just watched a few of your vids, and now know what the baffle is, and am placing my order.Thx again.

@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 7 ай бұрын

@@sommebuddy no worries 👍

@barryjmarling 10 ай бұрын

Great informative video on the fantastic V85TT.

@nigelfisher3756 10 ай бұрын

Best looking bike on the market; Guzzi have a superb bike here. What’s not to like about this stylish, practical, comfortable and easy-to-maintain do it all classic? Thanks for sharing.

@pierre-yvesfrancois5028 8 ай бұрын

I fell in love with the 2023 model. Except the poor windscreen protection (changed to Ermax) and the clumsy right hand comodo , it is pure fun and happiness. Happy to see wind protection and commodo issues would have been solved. Ride safe.

@ccclll987 2 ай бұрын

I was interested in the ermax screen, how is it?

@ccclll987 2 ай бұрын

I was interested in the ermax screen, how is it doing?

@pierre-yvesfrancois5028 2 ай бұрын

@@ccclll987 hi for around 100 euro ,you get a smart screen, tall enough to divert the wind from the helmet. Still some turbulences on the shoulders but much less. I was not able to compare with the large but expensive genuine screen of MG. My height is 192 cm. Shall I buy it again ? Yes. Hope it helps.

@ccclll987 2 ай бұрын

@@pierre-yvesfrancois5028 im much smaller than you do if itvworks for you it will surely work for me. Thank you!

@ccclll987 2 ай бұрын

@@pierre-yvesfrancois5028 thank you so much. I m 170cm so I guess it will be even better for me

@jshanni2066 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for the review. Im sure better torque through the range and a little more power will be much appreciated. And i like the new engine look . But i prefered the look of the old models trellis frame around the rear seat and instrument cluster. For me, i think the TT or Travel model is the one to get.

@samp2007 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, quite a bummer they got rid of the tubular framing on the rear. It was such a cool and classic look. Seeing it be replaced by a the angular shapes on the '24 models is a shame.. The same goes for the shape of the fuel tank imo

@hughmac7423 10 ай бұрын

I have a mode on my Pan Am that give it 80hp :) but I only use that when the weather is too hot and I'm trying to run the bike cooler in traffic. Otherwise I keep it in the 150hp power, which based on the weight the V85 would have to produce 130hp to match the Pan Am. I did seriously look at the V85 before I brough the Pan Am. I only went for the Pan Am because it had a better power to weight ratio and a lot more tech. I use it as an all road sport tourer, I didn't get the Pan Am as an off road bike, 90% of my riding is on sealed roads. The V85 is beautiful, if I could have more than two road bikes, it would be on my list.

@rdavidsen7344 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for your review. Looking forward to testing the '24 bike.

@PAULRIGBY-lm7gb 7 ай бұрын

Here we go again, the 2024 V85 has variable valve timing. Does it?! Then why can nobody explain what kind of system is used?! Some have said it is simply variable electronic timing control? PLEASE some technical details! Does this have an impact on regular service costs n intervals?! Is it a system already used by parent company. Keeping this a secret only makes one a little suspicious of its intent.

@rower30-mt3tb 2 ай бұрын

The VVT 850 cc mill uses a mechanical ball and ramp design so it is dead simple and near no moving parts.

@mermerac 9 ай бұрын

Does the bigger pannier hold a full face helmet?

@trevorkarrett3041 9 ай бұрын

I think it should since my 23 Travel pannier can hold a full helmet, unless they significantly decreased the size of it, but I doubt that.

@rower30-mt3tb 2 ай бұрын

Yes, the side opposite the exhaust hold a full face helmet.

@112stevee 10 ай бұрын

Great review thanks

@NakaNakaDerkaDerka 9 ай бұрын

Must say I prefer the outgoing models looks over the 24.

@jurekoritnik9878 10 ай бұрын

Great bikes

@markjones3425 8 ай бұрын

Thanks You, How is it on Gravel/Dirt roads single track?

@mikeybass666 10 ай бұрын

Sorry if I missed this in the review but do any of the models have cruise control? Awesome video by the way, watched the entire thing 😊

@lanehawley4987 10 ай бұрын

Yes they do

@tedmarakas2626 2 ай бұрын

I have a full custom 2021 V85TT. On the looks department the older bike looks better. I am sure the new V85TT is probably better in power and feel.

@MsDenver2 9 ай бұрын

I very like the strada because of it being more road focused

@peterhobbs7609 10 ай бұрын

Looks great

@_JimS 6 ай бұрын

Anything in the wind about Guzzi taking the Mandello 1000 engine down to 850 or 900 for the 85V?

@rower30-mt3tb 2 ай бұрын

I have ther V100S. But I don't like my bike. -) Engine is way, way too hyper to rev and that's all it want to do. -) Too much drive train lash compared to hypoid gear oil box units on the V7 and TT models (motor engine oil requires looser tolerances on the gears on the V100 mill (see Kevin Cameron's tech analysis). -) Hates, hates, hates below 3K and will valve knock every time you go below that with any aggressiveness. The V100 mill engine is a RPM eater. -) The catalytic converter is HOT in town and I mean HOT. Above 80 F is awful to be stuck on that bike. OK moving, but just. -) Seating is way too cramped after a few hours. I'm 5'10" and 140 pounds. Good stuff... -) Suspension is great. -) Using a GIVI touring screen is fine for protection. -) Luggage and mounting is classy. -) Good 54 MPH for the power. -) On the throttle this engine is a symphony. -) Handling is sure footed. -) Enough vibration to be on a Guzzi. Mirrors stay clear. -) Love the styling on the S varient. Summary, this is a SPORT tuned bike and not a laid back mile eater. For my riding style I find it aggravating to use and it always want to be accelerating and hunting for a corner. After 13,000 miles on the V100S I'm considering trading for the TRAVEL or the STRADA, seriously. The 850 VVT mill is the best of the V7 model 10 850 and the V100S in one bike.