100HP 32s Quad Motor Project World's FASTEST RC Car FULL POWER 1st run

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Kevin Talbot

Kevin Talbot

Күн бұрын

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@totalyep
@totalyep Жыл бұрын
Regarding the welder, your gas cup is leaking where it seals to the torch, letting air into the argon. A quick fix is tape or make sure the gas cup is tight.
@snapped4433
@snapped4433 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that or the argon is getting blown away
@Redneckcityboy
@Redneckcityboy Жыл бұрын
I would also check your settings on the welder to sense your gas cup is leaking
@briandavis577
@briandavis577 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it’ll act like a Venturi.
@firewaffle1
@firewaffle1 Жыл бұрын
​@@GrandremoneKevin was a welder right?
@ericwilson7949
@ericwilson7949 Жыл бұрын
It could be leaking from many areas not just the cup. Also bad argon is possible if a leak cant be detected
@Vogurt
@Vogurt Жыл бұрын
Noah's mom is an actual MVP. The fact she is there everytime with her kid is unreal support.
@priceks
@priceks Жыл бұрын
No doubt! …always glad to see her!
@aerodigital
@aerodigital Жыл бұрын
His mom is awesome for supporting him and Kevin is also awesome for mentoring this young bright mind. He is gonna go places, at 200+ MPH
@cutlerlon8468
@cutlerlon8468 Жыл бұрын
I've never seen her in videos before.
@corymcbride5394
@corymcbride5394 Жыл бұрын
And she’s pretty 😮
@franshaan7388
@franshaan7388 Жыл бұрын
A real parent that support her child! Awesome!!
@budddove6480
@budddove6480 Жыл бұрын
I worked with a friend with a C&C machine. I built a set of alloy wheels that are bead locks. Air filled they have had no issues at 160+ mph. We doubled the center tread and installed small rings inside the tire. After much trial and error, we have figured out a weave that stops any growth of an air filled tire. Anyone in top speed RC knows how hard that is. We've spun the tires on large bench motors to over 300mph, no over expansion, depending or failures. Tires are whats holding back records, not power. Were testing small go cart racing tires as well, very promising.
@feelincrispy7053
@feelincrispy7053 Жыл бұрын
The argon gas can be very easily blown away in very slight indoor drafts even if you can’t feel it. And even if the argon doesn’t completely blow away the ‘dome’ of argon around the weld can be disrupted allowing air to get in causing the porosity. It seems pretty likely that was your cause for shitty welds considering your welds started coming out better later on out of nowhere
@snapped4433
@snapped4433 Жыл бұрын
Was going to say the same sort of thing 😂 dad had that problem with his welder in our workshop untill he started welding the things he could engine room.
@F-Bomb1776
@F-Bomb1776 Жыл бұрын
That could be, good thought! I was thinking cup size. I have to change my cup based on what and where I'm welding.
@totalyep
@totalyep Жыл бұрын
Not this. It’s not that easy to blow away. The gas cup is leaking at the torch. 100%
@snapped4433
@snapped4433 Жыл бұрын
@@totalyep no it can be from a slight breeze read my previous comment
@ridered7394
@ridered7394 Жыл бұрын
Maybe dirty tungsten, or not enough gas, tungsten may be sticking out to far, 🤷‍♂️
@MrPetethemachine
@MrPetethemachine Жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin, I'm a Welder, there could be a number of reasons for the porosity, I'd be checking the o-rings in your torch, especially around the tungsten collet, and also the tail piece, it might even be a crack in the tail piece, another thing to check would be any pin holes in your gas lines. Both from the bottle to the machine, and from the machine to the torch, other than that you could change to another bottle of gas, but rarely is gas ever contaminated. Good luck with your endeavours. Your channel rules.
@KevinTalbotTV
@KevinTalbotTV Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips!
@as-so7er
@as-so7er Жыл бұрын
i mean could clean up that tungsten too
@cbernstorf
@cbernstorf Жыл бұрын
My tig did that when the gas hoses deteriorated. Inspect where the hose bends sharply.
@9albr3_th
@9albr3_th Жыл бұрын
@@KevinTalbotTVyup welder here for 42 years , he’s correct and probaly explained it better than I could have , kuddos man amazing channel
@bansheebiker
@bansheebiker Жыл бұрын
@kevintalbotTV good points above but If your welder works fine for stainless steel but poorly on mild steels it may be your filler metal. Mild steels GTAW benefits from using a filler rod with added silicon and manganese to avoid porosity. It also performs poorly when welded without filler (autogenous) compared to stainless steel for this reason. Try “ER70S” filler rods and see it that helps.
@johnb820
@johnb820 Жыл бұрын
Just discovered this channel and its so wholesome. No politics, no drama, just wholsome fun. Your also very good at what you do.
@walooo
@walooo Жыл бұрын
Another wheel idea: High durometer skateboard wheels. You'd need to engineer a connector, but that could then be reused on any off the shelf wheel. They're readily available in diameters that work for rc, and relatively inexpensive. The water jet channel shows them spinning up to around 45k rom before stretching and bursting, which is over 300mph
@TH3H0LYJ3BUS
@TH3H0LYJ3BUS Жыл бұрын
My first thought was going to urethane. They would be heavier but they should stay together at least
@Garf2O
@Garf2O Жыл бұрын
Could probably work if you used around 78a durameter longboard wheels with a plastic core to keep the bearings in place, just something slightly softer than the normal 99a wheels so the car can have a bit of grip.
@c-dawg2145
@c-dawg2145 Жыл бұрын
High durometer usually means less grip, which would be an engineering challenge.
@biggestcomplainer
@biggestcomplainer Жыл бұрын
@@c-dawg2145less grip….. just need more runway.
@jakes8444
@jakes8444 Жыл бұрын
shark wheels ftw
@rustbucket9318
@rustbucket9318 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully Project Air can get some sponsors so he can keep on building. Such a cool thing to see. I cannot understand how there isn't a reliable tire out there for these speed runs. Surely there is a rocket surgeon out there who could design something that would hod up.
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 Жыл бұрын
I really think that's why the sand flat cars often run solid metal wheels.
@supervolant
@supervolant Жыл бұрын
Why not use a proper tire compound instead of this porous foam? Its a mystery to me... And like @TechGorilla1987 is mentioning, the real land speed record cars in the higher end all use solid metal wheels. Due to the large diameter and rotational speeds these wheels experience tremedous forces, no rubber can hold that.
@MidwestFarmToys
@MidwestFarmToys Жыл бұрын
These cars only need simple steel belted rubber tires. It's just a B to make them. Someone would have to set up the cords then impregnate molten rubber around them in a vacuum. The problem will be balancing them. You won't be able to just install them and go. They don't weigh as much as real cars and the speed at the perimeter isn't much higher than normal cars
@asher7318
@asher7318 Жыл бұрын
Omg I remember when I used to hang around with this dude. Some of the best memories of my younger youth. What a legend Kevin. So good to see you up there. Always was a pleasure listening to your hype over the old landy let alone all this 🙏🏽🎉🙌🏾
@KevinTalbotTV
@KevinTalbotTV Жыл бұрын
Yo man, long time no see! Hope you’re well bro
@BCzepa
@BCzepa Жыл бұрын
@@KevinTalbotTV in regards to the welding question: cool video. im only 4:21 into it. i know this might be a silly question to ask but: have you been grinding your tungsten AROUND the tip, or along it? you want to grind along it, and grind with something that hasnt touched any iron. the side of a grinding wheel, a stainless steel grinding disk that hasnt been used on anything other than your tungsten, also your gas flow needs to stay on for a good 1-2 seconds after finishing. im sure you know these basics. it could be your gas, maybe a bad bottle and you cant use argosheild, has to be argon. im no pro mig welder but i am a qualified boilermaker.
@BCzepa
@BCzepa Жыл бұрын
lol oops, i meant im no pro tig welder. anyone can mig weld XD
@RizwanGnag
@RizwanGnag Жыл бұрын
So happy to see Kevin, Project Air, DIY Perks, Tomley and all other KZbinrs together! Thanks Kevin for all your hardwork! You will surely break the world record one day! Huge respect from India, Mumbai
@CarlMucher
@CarlMucher Жыл бұрын
This quad motor build is INSANE! I had a couple of ideas for tires. 1st idea is maybe carpet. Like commercial type. It would be like a stiffer foam but a woven design. May not come apart. The 2nd idea is either NP1 or Sikaflex. These are industrial, structural urethane. Basically rubber in a tube. Use dish washer soap and water to tool it. Just thinking outside of the box. You have to get it to it's full potential! Can't wait to see how much more it has in it!
@dextermorgan1
@dextermorgan1 9 ай бұрын
Watching this I couldn't help but be surprised nobody has engendered a better tire. It looks like the hobby definitely has the followers.
@scottiboi828
@scottiboi828 Жыл бұрын
7:46 into the vid. I guess top speed 237mph. Again thank you for this channel. I bought a hypergo 3s and batteries a few months ago. I have enjoyed every second of play time with it, making ramps, learning flips, and all the fun that comes with it. Thank you!
@roanoconnor98
@roanoconnor98 Жыл бұрын
I think the reason for the rear tyres wearing down is because they aren't connected to the front. With the downforce pressure on the front wheels, the rear wheels could be trying to go faster than the fronts, wearing them out and causing them to blow. No idea if that's the case but just a theory!
@KevinTalbotTV
@KevinTalbotTV Жыл бұрын
I think you’re right
@mathiaschillisplash8997
@mathiaschillisplash8997 Жыл бұрын
@@KevinTalbotTVhi kev i hope you get that record smashed soon, but can you fly more rc helicopter?😁 it was fun with you’re last helicopter video
@Wheeliecommuinty
@Wheeliecommuinty Жыл бұрын
@@KevinTalbotTVyo can u do a review on the latrax Teton rc car please?
@sdmalpas
@sdmalpas Жыл бұрын
​@KevinTalbotTV Kev, is there a way to make injection molded wheels n tires? I think the weight of the car is playing a big part in hitting the limitations of foams -just a thought 🤔
@Catwithcocacola
@Catwithcocacola Жыл бұрын
@@KevinTalbotTVhi I love your videos
@stuff3219
@stuff3219 Жыл бұрын
I've done the math on the tire size question. The centrifugal force that's going to blow the foam out is inversely related to the tire radius, at a given speed. F = speed/radius. So bigger radius tire is undoubtedly better. This is why F1 cars running at 200 don't instantly blow out the tires, despite them being made of rubber. TLDR: Big tires = Faster speed before blowout.
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 Жыл бұрын
Sweet
@lorditsprobingtime6668
@lorditsprobingtime6668 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Bigger diameter wheels, as big as he can manage to fit without having them creating too much drag and as skinny on the front as he can or possibly little mini fairings coming straight down in front of the lower section of them to try and avoid lift. I'd prefer to see alloy wheels too rather than plastic but . . .
@hashiru86
@hashiru86 Жыл бұрын
F1 cars have small wheels/Tyres in diameter compared to street cars but yes, very big compared to RC cars
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 Жыл бұрын
@@hashiru86 f1 went from 13" rims to 18" in 2022
@BagpipekilR
@BagpipekilR Жыл бұрын
Im sure you know this already, but you need the center driveshaft. The power and load bias between the two front tires and the two rear tires are killing your foams. If the fronts are spinning slower, they are scrubbing the foams off from the push of the rear. And the rears are wearing exceptionally fast because they are trying to push the slower scrub of the fronts. They need to be synced through the driveline. Great video kev, keep up the hard work and dedication brother! Maybe see if you can get a set of balanced steel belted tires on some trick carbon wheels 😎 or take some fiber core gates coolant hose for semi trucks and glue them to some wheels?
@JeremyKuhnash
@JeremyKuhnash Жыл бұрын
i was thinking the same, a very interesting piece of kit could be to sync them electronically so that the ESCs are linked to a central controller that monitors the wheel RPM individually and adjusts to suit. Your road car does all sorts of realtime things, the electronics are up to the task believe it or not even at very high speeds.
@paulbhager
@paulbhager Жыл бұрын
Dude, did you give props to another KZbinr, and to his sponsor. 👏 That's the definition of being a stand up Kick ass guy. 😎👍👏 I love how everyone just gets together and helps each other.
@wildbreak7301
@wildbreak7301 Жыл бұрын
The poor welding is due to the pipe being closed on both sides. The air in the tube expands due to the heat. And wants to escape. The air escapes through the weld pool of your weld. The solution is to drill a small hole +/- 3 millimeters in your tube. The welds on your exhaust are perfect because the tubes are open.
@xishootstuffx
@xishootstuffx Жыл бұрын
This guy^^^ If I remember right (Disclaimer - brain tumor) the pros pump argon into intercooler pipes when welding them.
@totalyep
@totalyep Жыл бұрын
That’s not his problem. The gas cup is leaking. Pumping argon in the tube is to shield the weld on the inside.
@johnd9357
@johnd9357 Жыл бұрын
Guess you didn’t notice the part where it was still welding like shit even in open air, when he was welding the tube to the bar stock.
@wildbreak7301
@wildbreak7301 Жыл бұрын
@@xishootstuffx Pumping gas into the tube only works with stainless steel pipes
@JPspinFPV
@JPspinFPV Жыл бұрын
​@@wildbreak7301That is not accurate.
@therealsyxx
@therealsyxx 8 ай бұрын
Jesus christ what have i clicked on? For someone who has only driven a car that was about 33 mph this is a whole other level of RC racing and speed. I'm just getting back into the hobby with my grand daughter. Ive realized she has a thing for RC cars. She plays with hers so much I'm constantly running out of batteries. about 4 a day and she's only 3 years old. So i think this is the perfect time to introduce her and reintroduce myself into the world of RC cars. And by the looks of this video i have lots to learn. This hobby is huge in the UK it seems. Not as big in the U.S. but thats just one of our many flaws. 😂
@hazepheno925
@hazepheno925 Жыл бұрын
Welding: Your Argon cylinder looks like it is just about empty based on the tank regulator. Many people run their tanks down until they get porosity, and that's when they know it's time to change bottles. Regulators/flow meters need a minimum amount of pressure to work properly
@jasonmarange5973
@jasonmarange5973 Жыл бұрын
Agree. When I first started tig I didn't know any better and it happened to me the first couple tanks. Drove me crazy until the local weld supply shop told me pay attention lol gas is pretty important who knew🤣
@a_gill242
@a_gill242 Жыл бұрын
Also his stick out is super far for that cup size
@Patiojewelry
@Patiojewelry Жыл бұрын
Tungsten seemed super dirty as well
@TheCameraManReviews
@TheCameraManReviews Жыл бұрын
Awesome work Kev.! The only thing I would do different is extend the bodywork down and over the wheels so they are enclosed. Less drag and less chance of flipping.
@muskokamike127
@muskokamike127 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering why none of the guys do that....all the "life size" "worlds fastest" vehicles do that to cut down on drag and turbulence.
@theonecassu3262
@theonecassu3262 Жыл бұрын
use 3m double sided tape as the tire it should not blow up unles there is a bad seem between the edges of the tape the tape should give enough grip when its dry
@muskokamike127
@muskokamike127 Жыл бұрын
@@theonecassu3262 the prob isn't the adhesion, it's the fact that the foam itself can't handle the forces put on it. YOu can see evidence of this where chunks have flown off yet the adhesive is still there with foam attached.
@theonecassu3262
@theonecassu3262 Жыл бұрын
@@muskokamike127 I ment that only running the double sided tape no foam
@MX304
@MX304 Жыл бұрын
That would make the flipping issue worse actually. You have to have a way for the air to escape the wheel wells. Enclosing them lets the pressure build up and causes more blow overs.
@someone-kc8cd
@someone-kc8cd Жыл бұрын
To prevent the back flipping you could cut vents into the wheel arches in the front, this would relieve the high pressure which causes the flipping
@rex_s80
@rex_s80 Жыл бұрын
It’s what they do at Le Mans and it definitely works.
@sbennyify
@sbennyify Жыл бұрын
Fu
@jefffredenburg7231
@jefffredenburg7231 Жыл бұрын
Also trying to seal weld metal tuding with a continuous weld the tubing will get too hot causing weld blowout. Just by leaving about 3mm unwelded on the weld joint, let cool to ambient temperature fill hole. This way there's no need for drilling hole that you'll may want to fill later
@robertruiz5417
@robertruiz5417 Жыл бұрын
Best of luck to all
@robertruiz5417
@robertruiz5417 Жыл бұрын
Love seeing all the greats in one location
@dumdumlegacy3251
@dumdumlegacy3251 Жыл бұрын
It’s 3:35 am for me rn, I don’t care this is awesome
@springcharlson6057
@springcharlson6057 Жыл бұрын
So Colorado
@tootsieff6178
@tootsieff6178 Жыл бұрын
5:34 for me
@blaineproductions2216
@blaineproductions2216 Жыл бұрын
4:40 for me
@dodgezilla1012
@dodgezilla1012 Жыл бұрын
@@blaineproductions2216me too
@bananapickleboat8384
@bananapickleboat8384 Жыл бұрын
10:41 for me
@Rockwoodrebel
@Rockwoodrebel Жыл бұрын
Why no one has a down track camera or drone shots from this event blows me away, come on Kev we all want the angles!
@nicniceproductions
@nicniceproductions Жыл бұрын
Drone?! How about start simple, like a wind diffuser for the camera’s mic 😉😂🤷‍♂️
@JakeRobb
@JakeRobb Жыл бұрын
Or even a just a long zoom lens.
@H3110NU
@H3110NU Жыл бұрын
There’s no cameras down track as RC cars hitting a tripod or person at 200mph is a bad day for everyone. Also you’re trying to track something small at high speed which is hard enough to properly frame. There’s prolly no drones as they are at an airfield and you typically can’t fly within a few KMs of those… but they could 100% put a dead cat wind muff over the mic to kill the wind sound.
@seanmehnert1282
@seanmehnert1282 Жыл бұрын
Dude love the content Kev you are absolutely killing it for a fresh build with the sausage! Love watching everyone's speed runs and going for PB's and world records! Looked like loads of fun! Would love to hang with you guys and check it all out! Always watch your vids! Keep on kicking butt! 🤙
@Supremebrawler07
@Supremebrawler07 10 ай бұрын
I agree❤
@Shawnsboostedgarage
@Shawnsboostedgarage Жыл бұрын
I know you mentioned using aluminum wheels wasn’t possible but if you had the machinist add a knurl to the aluminum wheel to act as the tread then maybe that would work for you. Another idea would be to bond some rubber to the knurled surface. The knurl would give the rubber and glue something to bite to.
@reedhill8249
@reedhill8249 Жыл бұрын
For welding I would suggest looking at a different cup! A weldporn FUPA number 12 cup will never lead you astray! I’ve used one for over 5 years and it can do anything and everything it also can use the same amount of gas flow as a smaller on but you get way more gas coverage. That’s my suggestion
@jackcaddy3691
@jackcaddy3691 11 ай бұрын
hey mate boilermaker from australia who loves rc cars. your tungsten needs to be sticking out alot less, will help the gas properly shield it from the atmosphere during the arc, so just push the tungsten in to its sticking out about 5mm from the shroud and turn gas up a little bit more. you will see a difference and start there.
@86steelrain
@86steelrain Жыл бұрын
That car has all the potential to break the record, it made 193MPH look easy which is insane!! Hopefully the tire issue can get figured out
@mp-rcspeedrun2759
@mp-rcspeedrun2759 Жыл бұрын
This video really captures the comdadery , atmosphere and pure fun of a Rossa event . Some of the fastest cars in the world run in the safest way possible with fantastic people . Was great to see your speed sausage running , good luck with your record attempt next time out.
@KevinTalbotTV
@KevinTalbotTV Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@ikiahwallrodt6969
@ikiahwallrodt6969 Жыл бұрын
I'm your biggest fan
@ikiahwallrodt6969
@ikiahwallrodt6969 Жыл бұрын
I love your content
@dougkimball6642
@dougkimball6642 Жыл бұрын
​@@KevinTalbotTV what about making tires out of hockey pucks?
@SanTos476
@SanTos476 Жыл бұрын
imagine seing a tiny car going 200mph+
@thanumgaming
@thanumgaming Жыл бұрын
The eternal struggle of all motorsports... putting the power to the ground! Great vid Kev! Looking forward to the tires getting sorted and then really seeing what it can do.
@twparnell
@twparnell Жыл бұрын
Kev if you're serious about going over 200mph you should get the car in a wind tunnel /or get a boffin to design you a more aerodynamic shell. The drag forces at 200mph are insane! The less power you need to get to 200mph the better
@darrenfalconer3267
@darrenfalconer3267 Жыл бұрын
Wheels are the problem to deal with first
@rasmusbengtsson2787
@rasmusbengtsson2787 Жыл бұрын
@@darrenfalconer3267 laminated rubber tires should be a thing
@machine2747
@machine2747 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about your wheel/tire problem. Have you thought about using taller tires? That would lower the wheel rpm and scrub off some of the centrifugal force on the tires. In the 80's, we used tires that had large diameter heat shrink tubing around the foam called "caps". You might consider using a heavy grade of heat shrink tubing to make an extra tread on your tires. There's even a grade of heat shrink with adhesive on the ID that melts as you heat it up. Can't wait to see you break the record with this. Awesome!
@ljvanmeeuwen
@ljvanmeeuwen Жыл бұрын
i started this hobby because of u ur an insperation for us all kev thanks alot
@groenevinger3893
@groenevinger3893 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully you don't break as much parts as Kevin does..
@snapped4433
@snapped4433 Жыл бұрын
​@@groenevinger3893yeah I think most of us are more cautious 😅
@ike8236
@ike8236 Жыл бұрын
Noah's mum has got it going on😂
@lachlangreen8389
@lachlangreen8389 Жыл бұрын
yes
@kram9850
@kram9850 Жыл бұрын
i know nothing about rc cars but youtube automaticaly put this video on and im now 5 videos in to this hobby, i have no idea why im watching this but for some odd reason i wanna keep watching more. SUBSCRIBED
@KevinTalbotTV
@KevinTalbotTV Жыл бұрын
boom! you need an x-maxx! :)
@johndoe920
@johndoe920 Жыл бұрын
you can glue foam to alu perfectly fine with the right glue and roughing up the alu. And it might keep the foam from flying off a bit better because it's gonna flap about a lot less and force that is smoothly introduced is always better than dynamically changing loads. It'd also probably be cheaper because you can reuse the alu wheels and just need to glue new foam to them. Only downside is they're heavier and thus need more run up to get up to speed. Though with that amount of power that shouldn't be a problem and I'd rather be worried about the resistance coming into the drivetrain getting everything hot...
@hulkslayer626
@hulkslayer626 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing video!! So great seeing the build, seeing the runs, seeing the community come together and help each other, seeing all the shout outs and of course seeing Noah's Mom 😉😊😆
@matgtorresmc
@matgtorresmc 6 ай бұрын
Add golf ball dimples to large surface panels to get smoother air flow, could help at higher speeds. Maybe f1 style front wings could keep the front down. Looks amazing!
@ironoreiron
@ironoreiron 6 ай бұрын
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@payamomidi533
@payamomidi533 Жыл бұрын
Hey Kev, I've experimented with tire ideas and I've found out that plastic tires with rubber tape on them will work well and they could 100% survive over 300MPH.
@KevinTalbotTV
@KevinTalbotTV Жыл бұрын
What is rubber tape? Where can I get it?
@Jordan_Chapman
@Jordan_Chapman Жыл бұрын
@@KevinTalbotTV you can get it online
@icebrew
@icebrew Жыл бұрын
@@KevinTalbotTV he might just mean electrical tape
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc Жыл бұрын
Did you mean vulcanized rubber tape on the rims? Also, what tests or calculations have you done that gives you confidence of the over 300mph figure?
@EagleFPV43
@EagleFPV43 Жыл бұрын
Bait
@kenselleck2414
@kenselleck2414 Жыл бұрын
Aluminium wheels with holes that are larger on the inside and use windshield urethane for the tyres making sure the urethane goes through the wheel. The funnel shaped holes will anchor the urethane in place. It should have very good traction. Wrapping the wheel with stainless steel safety wire in the urethane will keep them from blowing off the wheel.
@frankierzucekjr
@frankierzucekjr Жыл бұрын
As a nitro guy it was nice to hear the cars roaring in the back. Never had a battery type, but they look fun. Love the sound of the Nitros tho
@joshanderson1019
@joshanderson1019 Жыл бұрын
Kev, I think your tire issue could be easily solved if you just go with taller tires and gear it down a bit. Slowing down the drivetrain will be easier on bearings and driveshafts, and better efficiency, while the tires are spinning slower.
@procatprocat9647
@procatprocat9647 Жыл бұрын
Incorrect. The surface speed of the tire is the ground speed, irrespective of gearing. Taller tires will increase the centrifugal force and generate more tire blowouts. Lightweight, small diameter and higher strength are the answers
@jamesryplewski2860
@jamesryplewski2860 Жыл бұрын
@@procatprocat9647 Have either of you ever broken an rc car world speed record? No. Not many people can say they have or say they've even tried. Stop talking like you're experts.
@procatprocat9647
@procatprocat9647 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesryplewski2860 you've made the most basic of errors. Attempting to shut down speech because you make (false) allegations is utterly ignorant. Your sort must be eradicated from humanity.
@jaymitchell1095
@jaymitchell1095 Жыл бұрын
Bigger Rims, more foam in circumference, less centrifugal force on the glue 👍
@jeremybreeden4228
@jeremybreeden4228 Жыл бұрын
​@@jamesryplewski2860It doesn't take breaking a world record to understand how things work lol. Bigger tires balloon more, anybody who runs RCS at all should know this.
@ScottR76
@ScottR76 Жыл бұрын
Rubber Capped Tires.. This is what we used to run on 1/10 pan car oval racing. Early prototypes were just bicycle inter tube sections glued over trued down foam tires. Then the rubber is trued down and scuffed for traction. Later, companies like TRC started to mass produce them.
@H3110NU
@H3110NU Жыл бұрын
I’ve been wondering why those aren’t used anymore.
@choiceblade
@choiceblade Жыл бұрын
This is so exciting!!! Massively expensive I imagine, but the opportunity to see it for the wonderful way you share the experience is just tremendous. THANK you.
@aaronmurgatroyd5810
@aaronmurgatroyd5810 Жыл бұрын
That car looks crazy awesome Kev! Love the detail you put into these projects, love the countryside as well
@stevenmelling6068
@stevenmelling6068 Жыл бұрын
Easy fix for your tyres is to machine billet alloy (cost will pay for its self over time) and get Nolathane glued on it it gets machined in to a tube and slip/glue over alloy wheels it's may cost more up front than you spent on one set but you can reuse the rims over and over just getting the Nolathane re-vulcanized it will never fly off and it's hard wearing and flexible ,way cheaper than the amount of tyres you chewed through in one day Kevin
@KevinTalbotTV
@KevinTalbotTV Жыл бұрын
Is there a glue that sticks will to aluminium?
@Scarlet_Soul
@Scarlet_Soul Жыл бұрын
@@KevinTalbotTV Aglueminium
@elh3fe88
@elh3fe88 Жыл бұрын
​@@KevinTalbotTV epoxy sticks very well to aluminum. You just have to prep the aluminum by using acetone or denatured alcohol and sand to 80 grit then apply your epoxy. It gives an amazing bond that is highly heat resistant. So, the foam itself will break down long before the hold of the epoxy.
@stevenmelling6068
@stevenmelling6068 Жыл бұрын
@@KevinTalbotTV our local engineering plastic supplyer dose the whole process (used in the timber saw mill plants on rollers for transporting timber around the site it's very durable!)best of luck finding a solution Kevin
@nathansmith3608
@nathansmith3608 Жыл бұрын
@@KevinTalbotTV texture the surface a little & JB Weld will do fine. Or use an aluminum mesh tube as the 'tire' itself (if traction is too low, try coating it in truck bed liner or some kind of durable rubber/adhesive)
@mathewclark6971
@mathewclark6971 3 ай бұрын
Also I've recently watched your buddy raz using hard rubber treaded tyres...maybe he has a new supplier...in his latest 220mph video
@roanoconnor98
@roanoconnor98 Жыл бұрын
What an awesome build. It might be worth building a rolling road tyre tester, to see what the best option truly is! Look forward to seeing the future for this one!
@Ole_CornPop
@Ole_CornPop Жыл бұрын
A single tire tester using an angle grinder would work.
@roanoconnor98
@roanoconnor98 Жыл бұрын
@@smnkm4ehfer he could just make one using the same motors. Gear them higher so they spin faster than the wheels would. Just to get an idea for wobble, expanding etc
@jasonbecker4997
@jasonbecker4997 Жыл бұрын
Sure seems like good people at that event. Always supporting each other and helping others out. Really nice to see in a competitive environment. Cheers!
@andym1384
@andym1384 Жыл бұрын
Regarding the welding this caught me out the other day (after 20 years of welding) the gas supplier dropped us off argon/co2 mix instead of pure argon.. I tried everything and it was doing what yours is doing. Works perfectly with the correct gas😂
@dogfrank3632
@dogfrank3632 Жыл бұрын
Kev I believe in you even when it fails because you do it again and it gets better and better,love to see it thanks Kev for the awesome content.
@Ghostviper199
@Ghostviper199 Жыл бұрын
Damn!! Just seeing these cars at speed is increadible! And to see 210mph! What about 222mph as the World record? You guys just keep it up and go for the gold!
@myurcek05
@myurcek05 Жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin, Just create a carrier bearing instead of the block. Run the long solid shaft but just support it in the middle with a bearing the size of the shaft to remove the deflection.
@marksapollo
@marksapollo Жыл бұрын
Excellent video Kevin, you really captured the spirit and friendship of the event and RC community. It’s amazing how the craze has grown making an RC car just go as fast as possible. Nice one mate. 👍
@woodytheskip1718
@woodytheskip1718 Жыл бұрын
Just throwing an idea out there. I know lots of roller coasters use polyurethane rubber wheels as do longboards and street luges. Would it be possible to adapt skateboard wheels and use them on the sausage and if so do you think they would survive 200mph+???
@andy0175
@andy0175 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea if traction weren't an issue...they have no grip!
@woodytheskip1718
@woodytheskip1718 Жыл бұрын
@@andy0175 as someone who still enjoys inline skating in my late 40s, I will agree that the hard wheels supplied with many cheap production roller skates/skateboards would be next to useless. But some of the better quality ones with a lower durometer, around 76a or lower have plenty of grip. I’m certainly not saying with any certainty that it’s the perfect answer. I know the softer the rubber, the faster they wear out and two part wheels with a solid core and softer poly tread at those speeds it’s an unknown how well they will hold together. But it’s got to be worth experimenting with.
@BASENTRIM333
@BASENTRIM333 Жыл бұрын
Before welding, flood the tube with Argon . When sealing a tube, the air inside expands and tries to come out through the weld. Try drilling a small hole in the tube to let the air escape as it heats up. If you can't find any leaks, try a different bottle and new tungsten. A brand new bottle of contaminated gas is possible, it will drive you mad.
@notroban
@notroban Жыл бұрын
great job as always, kev. i do think that aluminium wheels with foam would be a great idea because thats what they used on the scc world record car
@camerakid76
@camerakid76 Жыл бұрын
Great video Kev! I can’t wait to see what you sort out with the wheels. I think I’d give up on foam and make my own, can’t imagine any worse result coming from that.
@NepsandHelis
@NepsandHelis Жыл бұрын
The fact that the average car can go 140-160 and this can go that fast, amazing, keep up the good work.
@bloodyknuckles9181
@bloodyknuckles9181 Жыл бұрын
I think a solid wheel would be the way to go, maybe a soft compound skateboard or rollerblade wheel with a hex pressed into one of the bearing sides, if it would grip enough though would be another thing 😀
@rustler08
@rustler08 Жыл бұрын
They don't grip worth a damn unless you have sufficient weight, and that's not going to be enough
@BrokenOpus
@BrokenOpus Жыл бұрын
Is it against the rules to have larger diameter wheels?
@bloodyknuckles9181
@bloodyknuckles9181 Жыл бұрын
@@BrokenOpus I doubt it as its rc not f1, the problem is not with the size of the wheels they have its the compound as centrifugal force at that speed is throwing the tread off hence why the outside if the wheel seems to come off worse its not the road cutting into it
@BrokenOpus
@BrokenOpus Жыл бұрын
@@bloodyknuckles9181 why I ask is would not a larger wheel rim lessen that force, as the wheel can rotate a bit slower on the tire edge to reach the same speeds.
@bloodyknuckles9181
@bloodyknuckles9181 Жыл бұрын
@@BrokenOpus yes that is true however the larger the wheel the more foam it uses which would counteract any benefits, other than a solid wheel it would have to be a steel reinforced rubber tyre like a car, cars have the same issue after 130mph which is why car tyres have speed ratings on them
@ThePaoligno90
@ThePaoligno90 Жыл бұрын
Just an idea: would it be viable to use supercapacitors instead of those batteries? They hold less energy, but you can recharge them much faster, they wear very little, and they can output a crazy amount of current, useful for short bursts of power like a single speed run.
@philgoodrctm8903
@philgoodrctm8903 8 ай бұрын
C vrai un buggy 1/8 top polyvalent solide suivant les marques mais très bon choix pour découvrir la rc je pense.chargeur imaxx 25€ lipos 2x2 s ou 4s env 45€ style hrb ,zeee,furion ,dfx,sur wartelle la c 80€ la lipo 4s
@remb9614
@remb9614 Жыл бұрын
Im building my own speed sausage based on Kevin’s design. The speed to beat at my local track is 160 so I believe if I can control the thing, I might have a chance. I already crashed it once though
@watchmarley9268
@watchmarley9268 Жыл бұрын
So which part of the video did he go 250mph?
@Kassore123
@Kassore123 8 ай бұрын
he was joking in the thumbnail
@TikaSubedi-sr4jp
@TikaSubedi-sr4jp 19 күн бұрын
What?!?!?!
@MudRun-sc2cm
@MudRun-sc2cm 9 ай бұрын
"Linatex" rubber, we use it in our mining circuits, hard wearing, light & like a dense foam but lasts for ages.... worth a look maybe?
@casuion8895
@casuion8895 Жыл бұрын
good job Kevin, hope u gonna break the World Record :)
@teksrcs3464
@teksrcs3464 Жыл бұрын
Hello Kevin, I appreciate your videos. With your welding issues, I assume that you are using argon gas as a shield, as for the filler wire, use Stainless Steel filler wire on steel thinner than 3mm/1/8 of an inch. That was an awesome video, those cars are super quick, you all do well to keep them running straight. Thanks for your input into the RC hobby.
@wolfparty4234
@wolfparty4234 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think he was running a argon bled gas while welding the flat mild steel to the SS steel tube.
@teksrcs3464
@teksrcs3464 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, not sure, I will ask him.
@scottnation5685
@scottnation5685 5 ай бұрын
I really love the craftsmanship and engineering that goes in to making these cars.
@DreadyBob
@DreadyBob Жыл бұрын
still scrolling for the link to noahs mum
@Mystery-b7l
@Mystery-b7l 6 ай бұрын
lol 😜
@dagreekratking4694
@dagreekratking4694 6 ай бұрын
Haha I was looking for the same thing Momma looking good
@AnshJadhav-d1h
@AnshJadhav-d1h 6 ай бұрын
What?
@dagreekratking4694
@dagreekratking4694 6 ай бұрын
Noah's mum
@Gh_577
@Gh_577 6 ай бұрын
S
@jaydawg7229
@jaydawg7229 7 ай бұрын
Hey there kev! Welder here as well, I'm not too sure if I might be way too late someone may have mentioned it but I have had that kind of issue caused by a bad ground as well🤙🏻
@ab_railways_original
@ab_railways_original Жыл бұрын
With these tires. It may be worth scoring lines into the plastic tires, then when the foam comes off it still gets some grip. It also ma be worth installing some sort of tracking system so it finds a line and sticks to it. Excellent video as normal . Keep up the good work
@billmadison2032
@billmadison2032 Жыл бұрын
I really love how you highlight the normal guy and kid. Very good job Kevin they're the future.
@nicholasterzidis8968
@nicholasterzidis8968 Жыл бұрын
For the foam ripping off at high speed you could make the wheels taller as this would increase the foam’s distance from the center of the wheels thus decreasing centripetal force. This would allow you to keep foam for grip and achieve a higher speed before the foam rips off.
@GamezGuru1
@GamezGuru1 Жыл бұрын
wrong way round, this would be even worse!
@Steve-hd2wm
@Steve-hd2wm Жыл бұрын
Kev, have a look at an ice hockey Puck. Very solid rubber material. Get one in the lathe and turn yourself a set of wheels. Nothing to de laminate, very solid may hold up at speed and not destort if you stay on the narrow idea, maybe possible to bolt some ally disks through the turned Puck to stifen it up. Just an idea mate. Love some feed back if you give it a look. All the best with smashing and holding the record in the future. 👍
@WildhurstLodge
@WildhurstLodge 7 ай бұрын
You need hockey pucks for wheels! Just drill a hole in it. They won’t come apart, good weight, no glue, and they have some grip texture on the outer edge to grip the stick. I think they will make perfect speed tires.
@wibbledee
@wibbledee Жыл бұрын
Those welds on the headers were impressive, it's definitely not a technique problem!
@saltysteel3996
@saltysteel3996 Жыл бұрын
Someone needs to make belted high speed tires for RC vehicles.
@jstewart627
@jstewart627 Жыл бұрын
20:16 we need a full examination of those wheels in that shot, and the wheel cover.
@TheSamurai0622
@TheSamurai0622 Жыл бұрын
Try 100percent argon if your not already. By the looks of it your tungsten is contaminated and not ground to a nice point. I would also get a gas lense kit for your torch size. If you weld any metal that is coated or dirty it will cause issues and more than likely contaminate your tungsten. Which will need to be cleaned up to work properly again. Make sure you have the right grade of tungsten as well. Stick out length of the tungsten is also important, if it's out too far the gas will not protect it. You get way better coverage with a gas lense kit and can therefore use more sitckout. Double check all you settings including post-flow to make sure they are right and if you are not using post flow you are contaminating the tungsten. Post flow needs to last until the red hot tungsten is cooled.
@nickkoepplinger9204
@nickkoepplinger9204 Жыл бұрын
Dude i loved the event but Noah's mom is a Hottie all the way
@tyger1st
@tyger1st 10 ай бұрын
Also add a downward air dam at the front and vent behind the front wheels to keep them on the ground. Oh, and good luck!
@abgaming8607
@abgaming8607 Жыл бұрын
Kev, due to galvanized iron coating on the metal pipe, we can't weld it properly. U have to grind or rub with sand paper on the place which u r going weld. So that the tungsten rod will not melt and no porosity will come, love ur work man❤❤❤❤
@monsterbuzz4105
@monsterbuzz4105 8 ай бұрын
To fix the center wobble, could you fit the shaft in a barring and make a custom mount in the center of the car?
@burgerjointgame
@burgerjointgame Жыл бұрын
Been watching since the start, congrats! Must admit I thought this long chassis would sag, but happy to have been proven wrong!
@Liveforwhatyougive
@Liveforwhatyougive 10 ай бұрын
Man those skate park bashes are brutal. Rebuilds the truck, immediately brings it to the skate park 😂👍🤟! Love the channel Kev, super addictive. This is really getting me inspired to get back into rc again.
@abel2088
@abel2088 4 ай бұрын
You would think that theres a company that makes rubber tires for these types of RC cars .. All in all great video!
@boothby18
@boothby18 5 ай бұрын
Kevin just wanted to say the video was awesome thank you! And the part about Andy's proud dad club hat was hilarious!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@PilotAlphaKilo
@PilotAlphaKilo Жыл бұрын
you guys should get an fpv race drone pilot out there to chase the cars. they could easily keep up with the cars. if you ever wanna fly me out from the states id love to do some filming for free!
@Mike-hr6jz
@Mike-hr6jz 5 ай бұрын
Rivets create drag if you want the tires to hold up, you take carbon fiber, thread, and when forming the tire, you put it in the rubber like a steel radial tire. It will not blow apart this way.
@gotez7gaming748
@gotez7gaming748 Жыл бұрын
that hing has more horse power than my car
@rob379lqz
@rob379lqz Жыл бұрын
More HP than my Smart Fortwo, vacuum cleaner, lawnmower, garburator, ceiling fan, food processor, weed-whacker, air compressor, and e-bike all combined! 👍
@KevinTalbotTV
@KevinTalbotTV Жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@gyateste6191
@gyateste6191 Жыл бұрын
Should call it for what it is.. It went 190 mph ,before the car exploded.
@onestopfabshop3224
@onestopfabshop3224 Жыл бұрын
That little tire lathe you have there is quite remarkable. Never seen anything like it. But then, this is my first time to your channel. I do the RC planes, I have a 48 foot trailer full. I think i have like 26 planes in different stages. Full unbuilt kits, ARF Kits, ready to go planes and of course, a few crashed ones. Lol Your cars go faster than my planes! Lol Oh mine are all nitro and gas, i have no electric ones.
@Freezedriedmage
@Freezedriedmage Жыл бұрын
Kevin, what gas composition are you running? Mig and tig gas are not the same. The most common MIG gas is 75/25 75% argon 25% co2. Tig will weld horribly with that gas composition because the only gas you can run with TIG is pure argon. Also with Tig cleanliness is key. You should be cutting the part then following with a hand sand around and on the weld to remove any coatings followed by a wipe down with acetone to remove any oils. Another thing you want a nicely ground tungsten tip. The sharper the angle of the grind the more pin point the arc but the faster the tungsten balls up under load. You should also be welding in reverse polarity. Any questions hmu.
@rightsidelanechoice7702
@rightsidelanechoice7702 Жыл бұрын
For starters, there. You paint the body on the inside of the clear body so the paint doesn’t get thrashed
@wolfparty4234
@wolfparty4234 Жыл бұрын
Top fuel dragsters run over 300+ mph. When they broke the 350 mph they were running harder compound rubber tires. What if the foam on the wheels were harder. Maybe try a sold hard rubber wheel and tire combo. Aluminum wheels will need a hard rubber compound for the tire
@wsbill14224
@wsbill14224 Жыл бұрын
I have an idea. Get aluminum wheels and make tires by neatly cutting strips of inner tube and super glue it to the aluminum wheels. Good luck and go fast!
@red6standingby221
@red6standingby221 Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, only clicked this video because you look like Rhys Darby. Good luck with the cars Murray.
@flyyyjr
@flyyyjr Жыл бұрын
NFL, I feel kev is the only youtuber who sits and watches others channel and supports everyone els n his rc community not many tubers out there like kev tips hat to ya pal good work
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