100mg Dianabol Only Cycle! | 10mg vs 25mg vs 100mg of Dbol | Muscle Gains? Side Effects?

[@tagati6574]

love dbol solo cycles at 15 to 30mg for 6 weeks or so, no sides, and with no pct, hpta bounces back straight away, no dip after discounting use Derek from MPMD has made a video about testosterone levels being higher after dbol use then before cycle, pretty cool study you should check it out

[@stevelarson3391]

Did you keep any of those strength gains?

[@lukasyan4818]

@@stevelarson3391I did 60mg dbol for 8 weeks. Funny enough I lost all the weight gains but my strength maintained

[@NicholasDowney]

It’s an interesting effect I see in clients opting to go for oral only cycles. The low testosterone on cycle causes a reactive increase in LH which when the person is off the steroid stimulates the still sensitive leydig cells to produce more testosterone than normal but the effect isn’t sustained

[@tagati6574]

yep endurance goes down abit but strength stays pretty much the same, have a mate that says the same@@stevelarson3391

[@jaimenazaryan860]

U mean that u didnt get gyno even at 30mg a day ? or only 15mg a day ?

[@dominicknachunga2235]

Thanks to all who shared their experiences with dbal

[@defaultsda]

Isn't that where the discussion about gear use has gone lately? Towards minimum effective doses. Too bad this isn't being studied anymore, but I can definitely see how 20mg could be as effective as 100mg. Interesting find, would love more of this in the future.

[@NicholasDowney]

Yes exactly! But this kind of notion isn’t widely accepted because “logically” the higher the dose the more anabolic but that isn’t always the case.

[@billybobs1705]

@@NicholasDowney is this reforvit b by any chance?

[@dansmith9724]

Is it possible that the increased cortisol could have been an era and metabolites of dianabol were picked up as cortisol but weren't actually cortisol. Similar to some testosterone testing where if one is also on nandrolone, it picks it up on the labs as testosterone, so you can have a false high testosterone reading. But anabolics like primobolan aren't picked up as testosterone on the same lab test. Just a thought, as many anabolics usually block cortisol receptors???

[@LL-hs4jo]

Should try and do a video on why dianabol has this mood improvement aspect? Would love to source the actual reason why? Some say it's gaba. Some say dopamine and some also say that methyl estradiol is raising serotonin levels? 10mg of dianabol to me is an awesome mood boost. Just a shame that it can't be run for prolonged periods similar to anti depressants etc

[@josefwowhi5056]

are the gains good too at 10mg or just mood boost?

[@scottishpanda0]

Years ago i saved a load of these old studies looking at dianabol, winstrol, anadrol, and anavar. Most showed 5 to 10mg orally were as effective for strength and weight gain as higher doses. If i recall correctly one study on dianabol or winstol i can't remember now had a 2 weeks on 1 off 2 on design and showed double the wight gain over the rest. I lost them all when an old harddrive crashed with them all saved 🙈 one always found these interesting though especially with the demonisation going on and the rampand dosage abuse these days

[@NicholasDowney]

I would love to find these studies. Let me know if you ever recover them again! Would love to take a look

[@bobshenatzky5576]

It's funny that you mentioned the 2 week on protocol. I myself was a big proponent of such cycles. I never stayed on anything for longer than 4 weeks without taking an equal or greater period off. I experienced very few side-effects and was very pleased with my results. I was NOT a bodybuilder trying to get as massive as possible. I enjoy sprinting 100m under 12 seconds and bench pressing 500lb all at a bodyweight under 240lb. I enjoy functional speed, power and strength.

[@wadhwaaman1852]

@@bobshenatzky5576could you expand the cycle I’m planning to start my first cycle and i want to be very very careful and stay on low doses I’m nit looking yo get very big I’m want to try so that i see progress more evidently

[@2334-s7h]

@@bobshenatzky5576how would a „cycle“ look like, 2 weeks on, 1 week off and repeat x times? Thanks!

[@Marco_Saitama]

@@bobshenatzky5576 did you do dbol only and did you keep strength gains after stopping?

[@MetalheadAndNerd]

4:50: So the authors of the study noted the moon faces of the participants but claim that no side effects were reported? This sounds to me as if something in the study setup prevented the participants from reporting side effects and their liver values simply weren't checked. Maybe they even reported lots of side effects but these were inconvenient for the authors if their intended outcome of the study was that Dianabol was great for muscle development.

[@bobshenatzky5576]

I can't imagine how painful the back pumps and spasms must have been. i know that Winstrol caused my calve and the sole of my foot to spasm badly while sleeping.

[@Pavel-q1r8s]

Nicholas, to convert kgs to pounds you multiply kgs by 2 and add 10%, i.e. 3 kg x 2 = 6 + 10% = 6.6 pounds. -Pavel

[@NicholasDowney]

Hahaha I can see how you’ve become accustomed to living in the states! Thanks Pavel

[@tomgrove7212]

Unfortunately there is not funding for new studies or better information. There are nonjudgmental Dr.'s that will work with athletes do their blood work and learn from them if those MD's collaborated with each other I think there would be a wealth of knowledge to be gained. thanks for sharing

[@puneethpalan272]

Dianabol is the happy pill 😂😂😂....even on the bleakeast day 10 mg diana kept me going 👍 good

[@Sweven521]

Cortisol metabolism is altered by methadrostebolone, one of those studies showed in a graph a very high cortisol levei, f interested look at the effects of of the 11BHSD enzyme

[@z_bee13]

im on 25 currently, 2nd week and i feel great so far. LGD and MK677 too whoooieee boi! it's awesome.

[@eddiebroughan4486]

How is week 3? I just started week 1 of the same

[@mudri2908]

Update?

[@vdrxan381]

results and dosages for all? how is Ur liver and testosterone levels?

[@erikjohnson8031]

Did these people work out during the cycle? The "gains" seems to be VERY low, for 6 weeks. How old were they? Gender?

[@cursedfox4942]

I find it interesting that cortisol is high tho considering most people report happiness on dbol I wonder if it can cause panic after cessation

[@nootnootpenguino8586]

Amphetamines make u happy bit also spike cortisol

[@cursedfox4942]

@@nootnootpenguino8586 interesting

[@dansmith9724]

Hydrocortisone can actually increase performance when used like a preworkout, it was common practice in cycling and I think they used rather low dose of 10-20mg of Hydrocortisone and it was hard to pick up on drug testing???

[@Ben-fx5pb]

I did just over 8 weeks at 80mg day years ago didn't grow loads of muscle didn't really put on any size but the strength gain was incredible everything I was doing in the gym became easy I could throw round the 40kg dumbbells and bench 130 could have done more but my wrists were fucked 2 weeks after coming off was a rough ride only had tamoxifen for pct so lesson learned the hard way

[@billseka4141]

I agree as i took 15 mg a day for 8 weeks and another cycle of 30mg a day for 8 weeks and both were no different except more acne with the higher dose cycle. I'd say 15 mg a day is the ideal dosage.

[@johngentry8426]

Did you even use it the right way,? You're supposed to take at least 25-50mg of dianabol an hour before your workout. The half life of dbol is like 6 hours. Dont break up your dbol throughout the day, take the full dose,wait one hour,than workout.

[@billseka4141]

Probably not, all the research I found before I took my first cycle said split it up during the day so there's a steady dose of the drug in your blood throughout the day. So that's probably misinformation. So my last cycle was just 10 mg 30 minutes before a workout and than 5mg 6 hours later. Than I was diagnosed with diverticulitis and then just diverticulosis and now I'm scared Dianibol caused this? I don't know? I want to take another cycle but nobody has any answers about steroid use causing this or not. Thanks for your information !

[@ratónqliao19]

hey, i was thinking of experimenting with the same dosage... did you experience moonface at that dose?? or problematic water retention?

[@kellydread174]

Great info am planning to take a Dbol only cycle at 30mg per day for 4 weeks but I will do a pct of clomid and nolvadex for a month

[@nickps2251]

Howd it go

[@dontreadmyname4396]

update?

[@92yankee52]

Sounds stupid, just get on trt or don’t do drugs.

[@dontreadmyname4396]

@@92yankee52 shut up

[@nickps2251]

@@92yankee52 thank you for your much asked for advice

[@dlloydy5356]

Great stuff. love these medical studies

[@NicholasDowney]

Very interesting!

[@حمزهالعتيبي-ر7ع]

100 mg dianabol is stupid 50 mg dianabol should be the highest you would ever go

[@gregoriomiller8241]

You wrong 100 mg is the bomb

[@maheshpun4804]

5:50 Has that guy on the left who improved much more after coming off the steroid whilst he was only making natty gains on steroids? 😂

[@gregoriomiller8241]

I did dbol at 100 mg at one point but i high blood pressure and other sides so stopped lol

[@Pavel-q1r8s]

Something is very wrong about that 100 mg study. Very little side-effects from such a dose and only 3kg weight increase and no statistically significant performance increase??? I call bullshit! -Pavel

[@NicholasDowney]

Logically I also think it is BS but at the same time the researchers were trying to prove that AAS actually have clinically significant performance benefits

[@cursedfox4942]

100mg dbol your. Bench would be pec tear weight lol 150-700 in a week lol 😂

[@gregoriomiller8241]

I legit strained my chest doing 100 mg dbol and 20 mg of M1T

[@gregoriomiller8241]

Fucked it on incline because I got to strong to quickly which led to injury.

[@cursedfox4942]

@@gregoriomiller8241 I’m not surprised at all haha

[@cursedfox4942]

@@gregoriomiller8241 ye it’s always incline

[@gregoriomiller8241]

@@cursedfox4942 Yeah it was stupid fucked

[@davidoftheforest]

the back pumps are not worth the results

[@andrewwright.]

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[@NicholasDowney]

Thanks

[@andrewwright.]

Ciba that did the testing on dbol did note that "some" people was using upwards of 300mg a day. them some people was bodybuilders...most likely 100kg + body weight

[@Snoopydogg743]

But the fact that Arnold took 2 things only is great ofc when took 800-1000 mg if dbol ofc ur going to get huge I. Two days but that’s insane for whatever they are using today it’s insane guys die young bc of it !! The fact that they now make it so bad for people who want to try it makes no sense whatsoever to try it out it takes away all of the fun and desire to try it out! Such a shame ! Oh well