1010music Nanobox - Lemondrop: How do they get THAT out of THIS?

[@ArcticAnalysis]

so beautiful at 13:39 🧡 This review was really great for me. Even the bits where you are stumbling to find record function ( I see from the lemondrop forum that this was added in a firmware update). The stumbling itself is useful to see as it gives an feel for the navigability of the device. Plus of course all the great ear candy supplied along the way. Thanks so much.

[@Volcaniced]

Your welcome my friend. The only points that still hits hart is the price tbh.

[@CNTRRNDM]

Wow!!! Didn't expect such an in-depth exploration of this amazing device! Well done, mate!!!

[@expandingknowledge8269]

For the price point, and comprehensive menu diving, I feel this Granular synth is a bargain, especially for the complex sound structure. Fantastic presentaion VolcaNiced, really enjoyed!!!

[@mr_floydst]

Finally had the time to watch - you got some great sounds out of this box, and video was structured well so it was easy to follow along. Great work!

[@Volcaniced]

Thanky you very much Alex.

[@expandingknowledge8269]

Think of Digital synthesis as "Bits" of information played out in the sound structure, very harsh, looking for order. Digital synths can also be warm as a summer breeze, it's all about how you arrange the Bits of information. In my Korg DSS-1 Sampler from years ago, this became very apparent to me, while truncating samples I made from additive waveforms directly from the synth. Looping, editing, truncating, splicing and finally a finished sample with structure and definition. I have since created hundreds of Digital samples, ranging from extremely harsh to subtle and delicate, using Korg's floppy disks as well as drawn Additive sounds directly from the DSS-1. I love the structure of Granular Synthesis, very Spectral in nature, not to different than Additive waveforms. Thankyou VolcaNiced for this fantastic demonstration, I hope to purchase this Granular Synth soon, and add it to my arsenal.

[@expandingknowledge8269]

The nice thing about synthesizers is you can add the desired effects, either by software, or hardware and get the desired results you are looking to obtain, pre or post fader. I use six effects units, in various configurations and order to obtain the sound I am looking for. I find most synths effects in the manufactures instruments are lacking for sonic abilities. You can also reintroduce in a loop so to speak effects through your mixer FX Send. Experiment with combinations until your really satisfied with the end sound production. The Gain structure within your synth effects engines, often don't cut it, unless you have purchased say a Waldorf Iridium, or similar high end synth, where powerful dedicated effects are part of the structure of sound itself. Hope this has helped VolcaNiced, LOVE YOUR CHANNEL! Expanding Knowledge.

[@Volcaniced]

Thanks for your input. I agree with you.

[@reuze.]

So much great sounds in this little plastic box !! High quality. But a bit too expensive for me, also maybe too small. Thanks for your video, great job 👍 i'm sure you're going to make great musics with this.

[@Volcaniced]

It's not my cup of tea unfortunately . I am missing a sequencer.

[@memorycanyon2259]

Sounds incredible!

[@Electronicmassacre]

Really good video man. The sounds of granular synthesis really fit in to the way I make music. So wish I could get one right now 😂 The sounds you getting here sound soo good:)

[@Volcaniced]

Thank you so much my friend 💗😊

[@gorillamcguilla2275]

I just got mine yesterday and so far it's really cool. Expensive? Yeah, a little bit. I think it's is worth $299 as opposed to $399 (US dollars of course). However, the only hardware alternative is the Tastychips granular synth, which has a LOT more under the hood but at something like $1100 - $1200 dollars and at that price we are getting in some heavy hitter territory. For now, I have a nice field recorder and some good thoughtful recordings paired with this little box can (hopefully) produce some interesting sounds.

[@Volcaniced]

Yeah from your perspective this is a great value synth.

[@hellf.o]

Of course you immediately got it! I'm considering to do the same!

[@guiom77]

Thanks thanks for this vidéo..you explain it perfect for me,,very clear.thank you..

[@Volcaniced]

Your welcome. Thanks for watching.

[@SchalkerFW]

Tolles Gerät, das ich auch schon testen durfte. Ganz oben auf meiner Liste. Danke für die tolle Einführung 😄

[@Volcaniced]

Oh hört hört ..freut mich für dich. Findest du den Preis angesehen?

[@InkyDaCaT]

Wow indeed! The bass sounded awesome through it too!

[@Volcaniced]

Unfortunately the price is gold ..

[@johncaccioppo1142]

GASlit again. Great demo, subbed

[@Volcaniced]

Welcome to the community. I am not a friend of this GAS thing. But I am sure there a ppl liking the lemondrop a lot

[@johncaccioppo1142]

@@Volcaniced Gear good, GAS bad... it's a conundrum, wrapped in plastic

[@bmmaaate]

Nice sounds but too expensive for someone at my skill level. I like the design but what I would like to see is a midi controller with slots so you can keep things like this tidy. They would need to be a standard size of course. The result would be like a Mini Modular synth. Just clip different units in like a pedal board, use them or bypass them.

[@Volcaniced]

Yes, there are a few things that making the Lemon Drop unattractive. But nevertheless, its sound unbelievable great, and I think this makes its a big value for some ppl.

[@bmmaaate]

@@Volcaniced It does sound great but that is partly because of the skill of the user. I'm still struggling to program the four I have already and my piano skills haven't improved much so I still sound like a hyperactive child hammering on a new toy at xmas.

[@johncaccioppo1142]

@@bmmaaate I can so totally relate. I hope you are recording your work and uploading it, because looking back on that first year I had way more fun than later when I realized how much work it could be. I suspected this would be a problem so I did just that and posted about 20 tracks on SoundCloud (don't ask for a link, lol). I listen to these when I need humility, to remind me how much more I have to learn and every time I think I need a new synth. However, watching this vid makes me think I should sell some gear and get a dozen of these little cuties instead!

[@bmmaaate]

@@johncaccioppo1142 I've got recordings but they are part of a radio show that I do and I gave up uploading those ages ago. There is a vid on my youtube channel of me testing the first one. It's not bad, I haven't deleted it out of embarrassment yet.

[@SebticSmile]

Awesome little box - sounds great! Thanks for the demo (must not buy any more synths 🤣)

[@Volcaniced]

yeah its def. the question if someone needs this or not...

[@blenderbuch]

I was a bit surprised that you look at the oscillators the other way around. The simple osc as main an the granules as support. I think that's nice one for getting more conventional sounds enriched by all kind of granular stuff. Imagine what would be possible if we could free decide what a osc should be. Maybe in a future firmware. Or maybe 6 voices when only one granular is used 😎

[@Volcaniced]

Really good Ideas, thanks for your Feedback and thank you for watching the video. .... I am doing thinig often the other way round to understand them easier....

[@markthomas8315]

LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT....... WORTH THE MONEY!!!!!!

[@axs203]

It seems to really enourage experimentation. I like their design. Very bold. I suppose the market will decide if it is priced right.

[@carlossaraiva7968]

Hello. Perfect info on How this marvelous is capable of. Onde question: can you describe what other equipments this nano is attached on during this presentation?

[@Volcaniced]

Hmm there is non.. what do you want to know? There is the Lemondrop and the midi keyboard.

[@martinmatthews1589]

Looks like a Keystep 32. Not sure if that is velcro underneath to try to keep it in place? I can imagine it might be necessary to secure this to something more substantial than itself for ease of use. It's a really enjoyable demo all the same.

[@carlossaraiva7968]

@@Volcaniced so, there is only one amplifier and speakers? I am asking you cos I saw four cables in It. I thought you were using Vallhala Shimmers also for the sounds long duration . Also, was ir attached to a computer, producing those beautiful sounds?

[@d3tuned378]

I would love to hear the sounds without being run through any external FX - am I correct in assuming it's mostly been ran through the 70 pedal?

[@Volcaniced]

This is completely without any external FX. . all effects are in the box

[@d3tuned378]

@@Volcaniced Is it per-preset or is reverb on the whole time? Great to know that it comes with internal FX! Reminds me of the MM2

[@daver2725]

unbelievable

[@RuiGon1]

This is a great litle box. Nice work.

[@drcentertainment4756]

I think these are going to take off the the highly sought after Teenage Engineering OP-1 et al.

[@Volcaniced]

Agree.

[@verdielg]

Great review. I'm considering getting this over the Microfreak as they cost the same I think. How would you compare the two? I like the fx and sound quality of the Lemondrop but the MF tends to sound so childish and tinny without an added FX from the NTS1 or daw etc. I'm also not sure I can appreciate the paraphonic vs poly for detailed sound design. Thanks for the feedback. PS The volca is always a gem.

[@Volcaniced]

Isn't it a bit expansive only using it as a FX item. Just asking. I would think about the NTS 1 in addition to the MicroFreak or the zoom ms70 CDR

[@verdielg]

@@Volcaniced Yes, as an FX only box it is expensive. Actually, its expensive as a synthesizer imho too lol. I am just looking for a compact poly synth with built-in effects which the MicroFreak doesn't have unfortunately. That's why I'm considering the Lemondrop as an option. Was happy to see you review it as I enjoy your MicroFreak vids... I'm a closet musician (tiny desk space) and mostly do ambient type jams.

[@Volcaniced]

@@verdielg Check out the MicroMonsta2 (12 voice poly for 300 EUR but no Audio IN kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5SYdp2YYt52a6c) or at least the Circuit Tracks where you can use the internal FX with external gear. Closet musician is this something you invented? I love this designation!! :)

[@verdielg]

@@Volcaniced Ah, both the MicroMonsta2 and Circuit Tracks look interesting. Will check them out in more detail. Was thinking more about why the Lemon is fascinating and I was able to identify 3 reasons... the ultra compact size, the ability to get so much feedback onto one GUI screen and, last but not least, the immense FX engine of the synth. Closet musician hahaha. I used that phrase as I all my gear is currently stacked into a tiny closet when not in use and placed on a keyboard tray when in use. I hate clutter...it kills my whole creative vibe. Hence the reason why the Lemondrop may be so attractive. The Plinky is my #1 compact synth choice but is unavailable unfortunately.

[@davidobrien2606]

@@verdielg Micromonsta 2 is a far more capable synth than lemondrop as it has 12 voice polyphony, compared to lemondrops 4 however they are very different with lemondrop being a granular synth. I really wanted lemondrop for granular stuff but micromonsta is also small better knobs and build all round and is a beast of a synth. Not to say lemondrop isn't but if your just looking for a synth and not granular synthesis I'd get the micromonsta 2.

[@thepglenn]

thst looks interesting, even tho i dont get into wavetables!!!

[@Volcaniced]

Me either... It's still an unknown book for me.

[@tonystephen6312]

19:00 that extraneous noise is way too loud!

[@Volcaniced]

Yeap correct.....

[@asantecarter7013]

It needs a case or stand or place holder or something.

[@Volcaniced]

Yes…definately

[@a_fallen_temple]

Was it easy getting your Keystep to work with the LD? I've been having extreme trouble trying to get it to read midi from mine :(

[@Volcaniced]

best thing to do: check all the details.. correct MID Ch on both devices, MIDI cable damaged?, maybe you have another midi keyboard to test it?

[@expandingknowledge8269]

Hi VolcaNiced. Can you power the Lemondrop with a DC5.0V Phone charger, which is what I have? Love your channel! What do you have your Lemondrop plugged into for power?

[@Volcaniced]

Using a regular usb power supply... But you can also use a usb power bank...

[@expandingknowledge8269]

@@Volcaniced Thank You.

[@synchronisticmelanatedmysitic]

Are these a good investment?

[@neuzethmusic131]

Hallo! Feines Video, danke fürs Teilen! Ich bin echt fasziniert von dem Lemondrop. Ich mache seit ca. 5 Jahren Ambient/Drone und habe bereits ein 7U Eurorack und einen Modal Argon8 als Haupt Maschinen. Ich hatte auch schon Clouds/Beads im Rack für Granular, bin aber nicht so richtig warm geworden mit den beiden. Ich liebe Granular Sounds für Texturen oder Flächen und bin stark am überlegen, ob ich den LD holen soll. Er hat ein Audio In für direktes Aufnehmen, also könnte ich Sounds/Sequenzen von meinen Hardware Synths direkt reinspielen. Das einzige, was mich stört ist der Formfaktor. Glaubst du, der LD wär was für mich bzw. die 450 Euro wert? Danke Lg Martin

[@Volcaniced]

Ich persönlich bin kein Freund von Granulat. Oder sagen wir ich war es nicht .. aber seit ich mit dem LD gearbeitet habe und jetzt wo der MicroFreak sein Granular Update bekommen hat finde ich das echt interessant. Ich tue mich aber ein bisschen schwer das in meine Jams einzubauen. Ob der LD dir 450 Eur wert ist muss natürlich jeder selber wissen. Ich persönlich finde ihn etwas überteuert wie leider alles von 1010.

[@neuzethmusic131]

@@Volcaniced Danke für die Antwort! Ja ich hab auch schon überlegt, ob ich bei Thomann kaufe und das Ding eine Woche teste. Und wenns nicht passt, geht er halt zurück. Wär auch eine Möglichkeit.

[@imcazador]

how do you view the samples of a preset as the entire length like in the video? both osc's only show me the wavetable for every preset

[@Volcaniced]

press on the waveform and you are good to go

[@imcazador]

@@Volcaniced i mean like seeing the entire 30 second sample vs. just small section, i think it's because i need to update the firmware & i'm getting a micro sd card reader tomorrow - thanks !!

[@Volcaniced]

@@imcazador ah ok I see...

[@geofff6671]

I like small, don’t get me wrong but this thing is ridiculous and $A700 is too much to pay in Australia for a plastic synth the size of matchbox. Does sound nice though.

[@Volcaniced]

Yes . There are reasons for this price.. 1010music is a small family company. I agree with so... The price is ... Hard.

[@dasczwo]

Now, somebody finally step up and do something about those humongous 3,5mm jack cables and midi adapter. Cmon its 2022.

[@Volcaniced]

you are right...

[@rayderrich]

Due to surgery I missed 10 days of your videos but I am back and like this one. I love the look and sound of this little box but as always the question is: what would it add for me. I am spoiled with Reaper and VSTs but for DAWless the box seems good.

[@Volcaniced]

I am missing a sequencer ;)

[@Volcaniced]

Ok, cause of my bad englisch I didnt understand "surgery" at first. But now I do. So my friend, are you feeling well?

[@rayderrich]

@@Volcaniced True, you need one always!

[@rayderrich]

@@Volcaniced Not very well but maybe I can make some music again soon. Was Nice to see a new video from you.

[@tragicbeatzs8183]

Ahh time to start stripping to fund my synth journey😩lol

[@Volcaniced]

Argh....aaaarghhh poor guy you

[@robertsteinberger5667]

For 500 bucks i can have a small modular setup instead.

[@Volcaniced]

Yeap that's right. I never said this thing is cheap ...

[@Taeodoestech]

iPad mini 6 with Drambo 🚀

[@blenderbuch]

Ah so I can stop making my noob videos 😁🥳

[@Volcaniced]

Oh wow. Your videos are really similar.... subbed your channel. Keep on the good work.

[@blenderbuch]

@@Volcaniced I am honored! Danke 🥳

[@expeditiondechouette]

It’s too small. Elektron?

[@olivierf.4931]

once again we have no way of knowing if you used external fx or not. To demonstrate the sound of a synth it obviously needs to be without.

[@Volcaniced]

Your right. I am sorry.

[@soopercolt45]

You talk really slow

[@Volcaniced]

English is not my mothertongue, sorry.