1025r AV20f Frontier Grapple! 1st Review!

[@landriaultpierre]

That video on your first use of that grapple is exactly what I want to see. Nobody should ever laugh at someone who's sharing his experiences to help others. Thank you Dash.

[@utherknight017]

This is the grapple I purchased with my new 1025R, just waiting on the third function to arrive and get installed. This was a great video to get a good first look at this grapple. I can’t wait!

[@seanduguay7673]

Dash, thank you for your review. Like you, I'm a novice. Just got my 1025r a few weeks ago and I'm actually still waiting on the same grapple you purchased. Like you, I also watched the TTWT vids and that was the reason I 'wanted/needed' a grapple. Going through your struggles on the first time use is exactly what I'm expecting for me. Thank you for making this easy. Nice job on the vid. I've subscribed.

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Hi Sean! You are going to love this grapple. I've had nothing but good experiences with it. It took me a moment to get used to it, but I don't suspect you will have any problem getting used to it. It is so much fun to operate. Did you end up having the dealer install the third function valve or did you go the diverter route? Thanks for subscribing!

[@seanduguay7673]

@@TheLittleGreenTractor Hey Dash, I had the dealer install the third function valve. I thought it was the right call for my circumstances. I guess the jury is still out as I've not yet received my grapple!

[@freddrawhorn8239]

I got some wireless cameras I added to my bucket,pallet forks ,and grapple got one on the side and one looking down been a great addition really saves time ,fuel,and just less general effort great video I got my grapple off your experience great videos I think agrofab was where I got cameras keep the videos coming bud

[@mikeshafer3708]

Hi Dash, thanks for the review. I haven't seen any reviews for the Frontier Grapple. Seems like a nice grapple and light weight. May have to buy one in the future. Looking forward to more videos of you using this grapple. Take care.

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Hi Mike, thanks for your comments and supporting my channel. Stay tuned for more videos, I’m really excited to put it to good use this season! Hope all is well with you back in Wisconsin. Take care.

[@TheFamilyFarmOn42]

My AV20F grapple is my favorite implement for my JD 3032e. Thanks for the video!

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Great to hear you’re getting great use of it! These things are awesome. Great channel you have going by the way! I’ve subscribed!

[@jd-fzcountrylife9838]

You are going to like it! I purchased one in July of 2019. Had John Deere put the third function valve on. It takes a few to get used to. A little practice it will be your favorite attachment!

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

I’m loving it so far! Haven’t had a chance to use it on any big projects yet, but I’ve been practicing on some objects around the yard and am getting better. Can’t wait to do some spring cleaning with it!

[@randalmiddleton8068]

I agree... I purchased the AV20F when they first came out, along with the factory 3rd function. They didn't have the stops, and the top lid used a round bar. My top lid was replaced with the new style square bar and stops after bending the round bar. Such a great grapple for the money, and seems like I use it just as much if not more than anything else.

[@gidzey4783]

Does the dealer installed JD 3rd function kit have the joystick knob with the button or is it a separate style like the artillian?

[@jd-fzcountrylife9838]

@@gidzey4783 The JD 3rd function kit comes with a new handle on the joy stick with a thumb rocker switch on the side to operate the third function It's definitely worth the extra money That's why we buy green tractors lol

[@mikiru1]

If you start fast forwarding the video from 12:12 you can see how much the hydraulics bleed down while the tractor is parked. This was a good informative video thank you.

[@royroddey]

i'm sure your first experiences are exactly what i'll do my first times out! nice vid - thanks for showing it off and describing the pro's and con's. I also found Artillian to be very expensive - $5000+ with the pallet rack, forks, diverter kit, and double grapple. Going the same way as you - Artillian diverter kit and Frontier AV20F grapple. also adding the Atrillian handle switch.

[@fun2drive107]

Never had a grapple before. I decided to go with the JD AV20f too since the weight was good and I bought the entire JD 1025R with all but one implement (box blade) I needed. I have run all kinds of tractors/ front loaders to include 3 yard Michigan's but never had a backhoe which I need and a grapple which I have never used. I appreciate the info on weights and costs. I thought I could get the grapple, BLT, and rotary mower with trailer as a package. I will be using mine soon as in a month and I know to begin with I will be clumsy too until I get the hang of it. Thanks

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

You’ll have tons of fun with it, I think it completely transforms the tractor. Congrats on your new toy and all of it’s attachments!

[@oby-1607]

Wow, thank God you are not my dentist. Thanks for your honesty. Good Works Tractors is a good site for tractors and attachments that will work for you. Be careful with it as it can hurt you if something goes wrong.

[@FloridaDeere]

Super cool, I was looking at Artillian too, but don't have their pallet fork frame and getting that makes it very pricey. Was thinking of getting one finally, so stumbled upon this and saw your video, thanks Dash, this video was really helpful.

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Thanks Florida Deere! I've been very happy with my grapple and haven't had any issues with it. It pairs well with the artillian diverter. Great channel btw, I'm a subscriber!

[@raymondsafarik7899]

Fun video, this is the grapple I've been leaning toward, I'm sure I could make good use of it.

[@craigbonney7044]

I got my grapple and third function all from john deere on my 1025r. I've had it about a month and a half and brushed out my neighbor yard and cut up around 11 cords of woods so far . It speeds the process up bringing full logs back than cutting it all in the woods. I'll probably use it more than my bucket now.

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Wow you’ve got some great use out of it so far, Craig! It’s amazing how much a grapple can make work easier. I’ll be cutting some wood in the next few months and can’t wait to get out in the woods with it. How are you liking the third function valve?

[@craigbonney7044]

@@TheLittleGreenTractor I haven't had any problem with the third function. My only complaint would be it won't raise and open the jaws at the same time. My prices in pa is a lot more than yours my grapple and third function installed was 3300 but they said I needed and extra valve cause I had a backoe on.

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

I debated over getting the backhoe but ultimately didn’t purchase it. I kind of wish I would have at this point. In that case I likely would have ended up with the third function valve as well. Keep me posted on how things are going with your projects, Craig. It’s great to hear about your experience!

[@bobstake3462]

I have a 2025 with the same grapple. I can pick up brush piles and have picked up 22" x 8' logs and load or stack them. With practice I can load pickups and various trailers. You will really like it the only problem is if you slam the jaws/clamp to hard it gets stuck

[@elektrikman8834]

I have been researching as well and the artillian seemed real nice but really expensive this one you have seems just right for my needs tanks for the review I would like to see more use of it

[@OrangeismyNewGreen]

Great video Dash, you will definitely get a hang of it soon, keep up the good videos 👍🏻

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Thank you! I'm glad you like them!

[@tessiern]

Hi Dash. Very good and informative video. I purchased the CTA Attachments 50" grapple a little over a year ago and, for the most part, am satisfied with it. I have a 2004/5 JD 4110 tractor, which I purchased used a few years ago and installed a W R Long diverter. For me, the most important consideration was the weight. Being able to grapple things does take practice and I need to do more of that. It has removable metals panels on the rear of the grapple which protect the front of the tractor from limbs that may accidentally puncture the radiator. But I think they do block the view of what I'm trying to grapple, so I may remove a few of them to see if that helps. I subscribed and look forward to more reviews and videos.

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Hi, Patrick! Great to hear from you and thanks for sharing your experience with the CTA grapple so far. I debated back and forth between CTA and Frontier since they were so similar. I did not realize the CTA grapple came with panels that protect the radiator and front fascia. That's a great feature. I worry about branches that might puncture a headlight or even tear up a hydraulic line with mine. Keep us posted on your experience with your grapple. If you're willing, tell us more about the WR Long diverter. I am not familiar with it so thank you for sharing. I am going to do some research on it. Do you like it and is it a good fit for your grapple?

[@davidfox363]

I just ordered a new 1025r and added one of these grapples. I'll have to wait until July to get them delivered. Thanks for the info

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Hi David, you are going to love the grapple! I've had so much fun with so far. It is a cost effective option compared to some of the other brands and has benefits of being light weight and powerful. I hope circumstances work out that you are able to receive it sooner than July. I imagine production has slowed down recently with the pandemic. Once you receive it, let me know how you like it!

[@11jt2007]

I was thinking if getting the Frontier AP12G grapple attachment for the pallet fork but this looks like a better option.

[@dwayneloftice2326]

Great review! Looks like a good one

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Thanks, Dwayne!

[@jamesmbutler]

That was helpful - thank-you, Dash!!

[@greggoesgaming]

Thanks for the informative video. I actually work for a deere dealer and have recently purchased a used 1025R and seen one of these grapples on our lot this week and couldn't find any videos on them. If wallet committee approves of the final cost with hydraulics im gonna have to pick one of these up. No more movin brush by hand is the goal.

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Hi Greg! If you end up buying this frontier model, I think you will really enjoy it. It has plenty of clamping force and is built light but sturdy. I hope you can lobby your finance committee for a swift approval!

[@greggoesgaming]

@@TheLittleGreenTractor Dealer had a grapple and the tractor hydraulic kit. Got the loader kit last Friday. Hopefully try to install next weekend. Thanks for the review!!

[@xclnce]

If you don’t mind me asking what was the cost of the AV20F?

[@greggoesgaming]

If I recall correctly it lists for $1,699. If I remember right the hydraulic kits are about another $1,000. I got a discount on the kit from the dealer because it had been installed once but wasn't compatible with the guys tractor because he had a backhoe also and it seems you can't have both. I don't know if prices vary by region.

[@greggoesgaming]

@@xclnce Hope that helps ya out a bit.

[@tomdoherty5945]

I'm looking for a grapple for my 3025E, and your video has helped me a lot with my decision. I was looking at the worksaver electric grapple, but I think this is a better choice for not much more money. Thanks and great job!

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Thanks for your comments, Tom! In my biased opinion, I think you will like the AV20f grapple much more than the electric worksaver grapple. The only hang up is that with the AV20f you have to add some sort of diverter or 3rd function valve to operate the hydraulic clamp which ultimately adds more cost. But it sure is nice to have such a strong clamping force and wide grapple arm. Whichever option you choose, you will a tremendous amount of fun using it. Happy grappling!

[@tomdoherty5945]

Well Dash, you talked me into it...I ordered the AV20F with the WR Long 3rd function kit today. Delivery scheduled for 7/20! Thanks again for the informative videos!

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Awesome, Tom! Glad I could be of good influence! Haha. I'm excited for you. 7/20 can't come soon enough!

[@wraith3951]

What size King Box Blade are you using? I hope to get a New 1025R tomorrow and was wondering should I get the appropriately sized JD Box Blade or keep my old 5ft (maybe 6fter) for lite gravel drive way work and save some money. just wanted to know how yours handles with that box blade.

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Hello! Congratulations on your purchase! I apologize this reply is beyond the date you may have purchased your new box blade. I would feel comfortable with keeping the 5ft box blade versus downsizing to the 4ft. I think the 4ft is a little too small. The 5ft is a little big for the 1025 in some circumstances, but it is usually due to a lack of weight, not power. If you can add some weight to the tractor you'll handle that 5ft box blade relatively easy.

[@Lowcountrydave]

How do you like your trailer with the high sides? Also is it a 16' trailer? I'm looking at a car hauler trailer 16'. Enough space for the FEL and BH attached on your trailer?

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Hey Dave! I like my trailer so far. It is indeed a 16’. The sides are the right height for my 1025r. I can clear it with the bucket, and it’s still tall enough to provide a good amount of volume inside the trailer. If you go with a 14ft, you may not be able to fit longer attachments on the trailer without hanging over. I have a rotary cutter and also a rear mount snow blower that add extra length, so the 16ft is about perfect. 18ft is good, too, but sometimes might be too long. Better to have more trailer than not enough, though. Great questions!

[@schoocg]

Actually great vid. Showing people , like me, mistakes helps out not duplicating them. I have a 1025R and want a grapple but so many are overkill and very heavy. I ordered this grapple today and will have the JD 3rd function installed.

[@coder010]

I have a similar size tractor as yours and I sure do enjoy your videos. I love what you can do with yours makes me do the same with mine. Thanks for sharing. Now i am thinking about the divert-er and a grapple!

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Great to hear, Don! I’m glad I could help. You will love these items if you decide to get them. They’re a bit expensive, but extremely fun. Cheers!

[@celoquin]

hi i have the same tractor i would like to install the same joystick and the same hydraulic valve do you have the part numbers? THANKS

[@truckerray7533]

Good job, Dash

[@ronalddavis439]

I have same grappler. You'll learn to get lower jaws under stuff you are lifting. I've had mine 3 months and learned al lot by just using it. Word of advice check bolts on grappler I lost one on all needed tighting. Also keep an eye on clamp were hoses are on grappler one if mine started leaking bolt not tight let it go back and forth. But I do love this grappler.

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Hi Ronald! Now that I've had the gapple for a few months I've been able to get used to it functionality. One barrier that I've had is with the artillian button that comes stock with the kit. It really didn;t work very well. I ordered the artillian knob that comes with the button and have had much better results. What type of diverter/3rd function set up do you have? Great point about the bolts and hose fittings. I never thought of that. I will definitely check mine to make sure they are tight. I appreciate your tips!

[@ronalddavis439]

@@TheLittleGreenTractor Hi i have 3rd valve mine has button build in to handle. The one thi g I did to mine after I got new hose is switched how jaw opens. When I first got it when you push button and moved stick forward it opened jaws not when I do this it closes jaws I like this better. But just my way. Good luck have fun with tractor. I know I love mine.

[@bobjohnson8624]

Nice review. Thank you.

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Thanks for watching, Bob! Have a great day!

[@Itsjoe1986]

Hey Dash, after going round and round on which grapple to get, my dealer was able to make me a great deal on the AV20F. Which was very similar to the other brand I was leaning towards. Looking forward to testing it out next week! Thanks for the informative video!

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Hi Joe! I'm very happy to hear you will be getting an AV20F! I've really enjoyed mine and I'm certain you will, too. Making a grapple choice is tough, I cant begin to count the number of hours it took me to research which best fits my needs. I'm sure you were in the same boat! I'm happy for you Joe!

[@tomthumb891]

Get on Dash lovely bit of kit ✊🏻💨🇬🇧

[@bc81bc]

What thickness are the tines made of? Hard to tell if is 1/4" or 3/8"

[@jokinjoe9447]

I just bought fhe true 3rd function from wrlong and I only paid 750 for the true 3rd function not a diverter valve,those john deeres must be really expensive.my tractor is blue not green..but good job on video

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Hi Joe! I’ve heard the WRLong 3rd functions are good for many tractor owners. I would had considered one myself had I known more about them at the time I purchased my artillian diverter.

[@wesleypope1741]

nice video, thanks!

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

You’re welcome, Wesley! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@michaelgunn82]

Can someone tell me where he purchased that bracket for the hydraulics at 4:00?

[@marlinkojak9882]

you are honest about it you have to learn how to use it but in a carefull way so you don,t bend anything

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Hi Marlin! So far so good with no catastrophes! (Knock on wood)

[@supporterofeverythingyouli6255]

Did you ever say what that set you back?

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Hi Bill, the grapple was about $1600 and the Artilian diverter kits was a little under $800. Roughly between $2300-$2400. Thanks!

[@supporterofeverythingyouli6255]

@@TheLittleGreenTractor OK thanks.

[@terryluebbe2560]

Thanks for sharing. I'm pretty sure you didn't buy that grapple to pick up firewood or cabinets. I expect you'll have much better success with brush.

[@chex313]

Thanks ...Getting a price on this and looking at the CTA. It does make me think tho, I could have thrown these materials into my loader quicker than using the grapple. The boulder would have taken a minute or two with just the loader. I only plan to using it for brush tho, should work better for that. Summit has the Diverter for $522 shipped with a discount code. EDIT: Ended up ordering AV20 F from my dealer , eta is middle of June.

[@vernonmason5592]

Hulk mad, hulk smash!

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Hahaha! The green monster is smashing those cabinets!

[@SGT1911]

From my experience people are assholes. They have NO knowledge whatsoever of what you are doing but the knw a hell of a lot more than they do. I call the. Recliner rangers. They do no videos themselves. Good job

[@TheLittleGreenTractor]

Thank you! I appreciate that very much. There’s lots of recliner rangers for sure lol. Have a great day! 😀

[@ronevans852]

Had one didn’t like it at all sold it an the tractor 3032.