DCS Fuel School | AAR Tutorial | Episode 2 - F-15C

[@steelpanther88]

some tips that worked for me in refueling F-15. 1.) rendezvous with tanker, lock him up on radar becasue DCS does not model correctly TACAN for F-15 eagle. 2.) for speed control its useful to think of throttle control like 3 steps forward 2 steps back and observe. 3.) when entering and staying in the green lights control zone in the middle and taking fuel, keep your points of referecence on the tankers bottom fuselage yellow line, and the lights themselves, and the engines for horizontal level, scan all three areas one after the other constantly. For additional visual cue, you can try to line up the top of your HUD glass so that you can look at the tankers lights above the HUD glass edge when using trackir 4.) when the lights tell you UP PITCH, you can also immediately at the same time increase thrust, because pitch up will slow you down immediately, when lights tell you DOWN PITCH, you can slightly decrease throttle or keep it at same. 5.) practice controlling the throttle and stick at the same time, when in the green lights control zone, so youre able to adjust both throttle and stick at the same time. F-15 doesnt seem to have special control laws for air to air refueling like F-16 does so i think being able to control both throttle and stikc at the same time is valuable skill. 6.) you can try small deadzone like 2-3% if it helps, I feel like it definitely helped me in refueling

[@snotcycle]

Nice vid mav. One thing i might add to the section about throttle control is this: Modern jets have a digital engine control system called a FADEC, this means the "throttle" lever is not truly a throttle but a thrust lever that the computer is constantly interpreting the position of to adjust the engines. This combined with the nature of jet engines to have a lot of rotational inertia and the inability to instantly change power settings means that the engine setting is always slightly lagging behind the throttle position. This is one of the major reasons why activities like tanking and approaches require constant throttle adjustment. I hope that makes sense. On relaxing: wiggle fingers and toes....you can't have a death grip and wiggle your fingers at the same time

[@skydayang]

I bought a joystick because of your vids maverick, next step is a throttle and im thinking about building a switch panel. Thanks for the great vids.

[@CharlieEdward25]

SavageSoldier i think mouse is as good as joystick personally

[@alwayslevitated9089]

Yes'Zirrr.. !! 💂‍♂️ I finally Phucking Got It..!! I didn't "Nail It..!!" But I just brought my F-15C back to full tank from roughly the half empty mark..!! WoooHooooo...!! ✊ YES...!! 🕹..✈..🤘 Most consequential is that I now grasp the logic involved in the "PDL System," meaning I will get more precise and better at this moving forward..!! The fundamentals are now understood...!! I just added this video to my playlist for my F-15 fundamentals earlier this week...!! I had to revisit it a few times, however I do feel this is the most complete and comprehensive explanation I have found out there as this tutorial is a "Godsend" for New DCS and "Flaming Cliffs 3" patrons like myself..!! There essentially, is no default training for the F-15C across the board in DCS ...!!! All of the "baby step" tutorials are geared towards the Su-27 Flanker...!! I have been successful with Air to Air Refueling in the past on VTOL VR in their F/A-26B which did actually familiarize me somewhat here..!! (Fuel port is on the nose in that plane 😉)Very Good game over there..!! Not to be slept on..!! 🤔 "Use The Phucking PDL System..!!" 😲 PERIODT...!! ✋ The Big Phucking Take Away Here...!!💪 Thanx...!! 🙌 Now it is time to learn how to make 💩 blow up...!! 🚀..🎯..🔥🔥🔥 ..✈🤘..😎

[@anthonymoloney3671]

Great tutorial Mav. Thanks for putting in the time to share your knowledge. After thinking I'd never get the hang of AAR, I'm finally starting to receive a full tank in one or two connections. If anyone finds themselves struggling, keep practicing and persist. And great advice from your first vid, get used to making very subtle stick movements and remember the plane has inertia!

[@alwayslevitated9089]

Yep... He got me together right fast too...!! I've been successful on other sims for some sense of familiarity here.. !! But Yeah... The comprehensive explanation here had me observing my own success in maybe the 3 sitting..!! Seems to me, DCS Is all about not going in aimless..!! This PDL System is almost imperative here.. !! At least for starters...!! 😎

[@yeruschmift8422]

Can't tell whether it's me or my low quality stick, but this is easilly one of the most frustrating things I've tried in a long while.

[@lido3395]

I need to do this shit on the keyboard because the Joystick I ordered is out of stock and it, when it will be available again, is unknown, rip HOTAS........

[@KeViN-wg5xs]

First week at flying, ty for the help.now on to radar school.ty again!!!!

[@RikaRikaItsumika]

How the heck do you see the PDL xD it's so far away Couldn't they put it closer to the tail of the tanker :/

[@mayurshinde7443]

I searched tons of material and cudnt gain any knowledge... and your vid taught me everything that i needed to know...all the small details...thanks a lot mav :)

[@104thMaverick]

Glad I could help!

[@deltaxraybravo7381]

Great Video Maverick! Really helped out as I've been trying to learn how to refuel in F-15C. I figured out the hornet after watching one of your videos and sitting on an Aerobatics Server for hours. Thank you and see you soon in the Tomcat! -Delta out

[@simonliin]

Another well considered instructional video from you Mav. Thx!

[@kqbaxt0r]

Excellent video! Finally a clear and concise explanation of proper procedure and common errors! Thank you!

[@flipphone9748]

Great tutorial

[@104thMaverick]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@Nikola16789]

I find PDL not visible enough.

[@bazej1080]

I wish we don't have full fidelity F-15A or C. Only FC version, my fav plane. RAZBAM will model bomber variant also. Usefull tips in the video.

[@Alien9828]

Excellent vid / tutorial mucker, nice one

[@MSFerrari248F1]

How can I keep the plane steady after making contact? I find myself drifting up/down or left/right. I have a Warthog Hotas with curves set to 30 on both pitch and roll axis. please help

[@104thMaverick]

Lots of practice my friend, normally you are always moving around slightly however the better you get at it, the smaller these movements become.

[@MSFerrari248F1]

@@104thMaverick I been at it for a month and half lol. I will practice more. Thank you for this video because of it I am making progress.

[@PewDiePieTooie]

I love the music, Odesza for Win! Train well Pilots, be safe!

[@colombanoalessandro]

Brilliant video and cracking Scottish accent!! Greetings from Aberdeen!!

[@DVpilot]

Please explain me hot to call a boom, not a two parachutes refueling tubes. Is that possible to do that in mission editor, I mean setup a boom option?

[@104th_Fallen]

FIRST! great tutorial boss!

[@jameswilliams1085]

Brilliant !

[@marcquintin7855]

Well done sir!!

[@gholamrezamehrdad8410]

Thanks to you

[@Agent0range67]

Nice editing!

[@104thMaverick]

Thank! You're the first person that has ever said that to me :D

[@Ginuwine-kx2iv]

How do you bring up the control position indicators on the right of your video?

[@104thMaverick]

Right control + enter

[@Ginuwine-kx2iv]

@@104thMaverick last question do you recommend trimming or just hand flying the stick?

[@104thMaverick]

Stick flying mate

[@SsgtHolland]

I always freak out and oscillate upon contact. It's very hard. My mantra's don't work.

[@104thMaverick]

Dont look at anything else apart from your visual cues that I point out in the video, once you get close enough to the tanker just start at the PDL system and try to relax.

[@R3dd_1247]

You make it seem so easy lmao

[@Hatredy11]

Good tutorial. Those reference points don't work for me in VR. What should the tanker speed be for the F-15?

[@frankjames4573]

Hi Mav... Sadly, I'm not flying... I get confused when mapping my warthog hotas and stick! Have you done a tutorial on this subject? If yes could you drop a link for me... If not, would you think about doing a tutorial on mapping ones hotas and stick? Frank...

[@NY3B4]

Try this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJzcZ5d_atB6iM0

[@104thMaverick]

Hi Frank, hopefully the video linked by NY helped! I dont have a set up video sir, I tend to just fly the aircraft for a few days then start mapping controls to my HOTAS that I use frequently and need in a hurry.

[@frankjames4573]

@@104thMaverick Hi Mav... I have another problem! I bought the hawk a few months ago... After a DCS update it's not in my module list... I checked, it now say says this module is now unavailable unless you download an earlier version! What's the point of that from DCS... we all want to use the latest version... yet now I cant fly the hawk... really strange! Do you have it, or do you know if any of your guys have a copy, have they lost theirs? Frank... PS. I use it for training!

[@frankjames4573]

@@104thMaverick Thanks mate...

[@EagleFulcrum1]

Are you using HOTAS Warthog? I use the Thrustmaster HOTS FCS and it looks not easy as you do. :( Ok, i surely need more practice, but it's really hard, especially when the tanker is not levelled. Do you use also the autopilot for altitude and attitude?

[@104thMaverick]

I use a HOTAS but not a Warthog. Many of the guys in my squadron use them, its just down to practice my friend. The whole procedure is done without autopilot and is 100% manual flying.

[@EagleFulcrum1]

Wow...no autopilot....unbelievable.....i need practice....MORE practice....thanks!

[@EagleFulcrum1]

Ehi Maverick! I wanted to thank you!! I've followed your advises and i made a good work with even three empty fuel tanks and my internal fuel at low level! Everything was 100% manual and at 30k feet! Yes, i still have something to learn, but listening you, ESPECIALLY when you say to relax your muscles while you are about to lose control of the situation, it works very well! Thank you very much Buddy!!

[@Yarik_Vodila_UA]

No steady hands for me

[@matthewbaxter5825]

dumb question. is the 135 player controlled or an npc?

[@104thMaverick]

NPC

[@matthewbaxter5825]

@@104thMaverick damn. i was so close to downloading dcs.

[@Tamburello_1994]

I'll never be able to do this goddamnit

[@MashedLinux]

yes you will mate

[@cpt.alahmari]

can we play together i need some one to teach me how to fly in formation with a tanker

[@104thMaverick]

No, sorry. Best thing to do is join an online community sir on discord or teamspeak and get some training, I dont have the free time to train people mate sorry

[@Mrparangos3]

My only way to take fuel from the tanker is crashing it :v

[@SA_Rocket]

this makes me want to die it's not healthy I should give up

[@stinkyfinget]

They are called PDI Pilot Direction Indicators. Hurts my ears after working these aircraft for 20 years.

[@104thMaverick]

The manufacturer call them Pilot Director Lights, cool story tho! imgur.com/a/0zEn30z

[@access_denied1082]

Worst music ever heard in a dcs video lol

[@104thMaverick]

Thanks for sharing!