10TH EDITION IS HERE - Tyranids VS Ultramarines ft. the NEW Leviathan Box Set

[@miniwargaming]

Learn to play 10th edition 40k: New to 40k: academy.vanguardtactics.com/a/2147553072/azb2Fi7L Familiar with 9th edition: academy.vanguardtactics.com/a/2147553076/azb2Fi7L Note on a rules mistake: You don't have to keep the cards you drew. You can throw away one at the end of your turn and gain 1 CP. Want to help support MiniWarGaming while buying miniatures and terrain? Use one of the links below to buy your stuff and we'll get a small commission. US - www.miniwargaming.com/warpfire AU - www.miniwargaming.com/gapgames EU - www.miniwargaming.com/broadsword UK - www.miniwargaming.com/wayland CA - www.miniwargaming.com/torchlight Our upcoming Season 2 campaign for Ravaged Star: gamefound.com/projects/miniwargaming/ravaged-star-tabletop-miniature-wargame

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Thank you for making this battle report!

[@VanguardTactics]

Thank you so much for having on the show I loved recording this battle report.

[@pete104242]

Really good to see you on this channel, please tell me there is some Steve on Steve action!

[@miniwargaming]

Our pleasure! May your flex rolls bring you victory on the tabletop! ❤

[@thedwarf4121]

Vanguard, where do you have a link to your tutorial advice and does it have to be in person or could you do it online? Thank you in advance.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Thank you for being part of this collaboration!

[@andrewbakescakes9684]

Seeing Matt play Tyranids again brings back fond memories of Beat Matt Batrep.

[@MrBanditoRazor]

God I love these short videos sooooo much better than the 3 hr ones.

[@flamingbaby247]

same

[@bitcoinyoda8321]

i still hate the shaky camera and 90% it´s filming the dice

[@warbossbenny6877]

So nice to see the 40k channels coming together

[@halfmadfalcon2078]

That interactions between the Screamer Killer and the Marines was a major highlight of this batrep. Nice job!

[@Entropictyranny]

Best 10th battle report I’ve seen so far. So enjoyable to see 2 masters of the game battle it out in a sporting way. Please do more!

[@SkaredCast]

It was so awesome to see the game being played ! Such a fun time with awesome people, and the missions are great.

[@philgagnon275]

Can't wait for the Dark Eldar to hit the table in 10th.

[@MaverickNicolson]

Ive been waiting for this for so long man... Lets go TYRANIDS!

[@iamabot1o1]

Dude I love your video's and good choice on faction😅

[@TimBergen]

16:49 " I can force your whole army to take battleshock, and because the Neurotyrant is on the table, they're all at minus one." "... wot." - plus the look on his face just made me actually cackle out loud.

[@latralus46and2]

Great game. Learned a lot. Couple of notes regarding new rules. Dreadnoughts aren't infantry. So no sustained hits on him. Also when using tactical missions you can discard one or both of the secondary mission cards at the end of your turn. You even get 1 CP for it if it's not the 5th battle round. That helps in situations where the first mission cards you draw are really bad early on. Could have made a difference in this game for sure.

[@sludgedisciple]

I really enjoyed watching this bat rep. Steven's dice and Matt's reactions and joy made me smile. Thanks guys!

[@dave_s_vids]

Great bat-rep, thanks! I'm pretty sure you could have made the charge at 34:45 as you can charge over up to 2" high terrain as if it wasn't there (pg 30 Core rules)

[@DaBozinator]

Great video. Really good vibes and sportsmanship in a learning scenario with somewhat weird armies out of the box and rules still being learned. Really enjoyed it. Good energy throughout.

[@MrGilmo88]

The best rolling I've ever seen Mr Stephen Box produce! Fantastic game!

[@eelspinejenkins3999]

wait did the index's come out or are these just ones theyve gathered through teasers?

[@miniwargaming]

Sorry they're not out yet. GW gave us access early so we could film this battle report.

[@Svefred2]

Awesome table! Really immersive 👏🏻😊

[@daemonnexusknight]

Love seeing Matt playing his Tyranids again! Great guest and a fun BatRep. :)

[@clawhammr666]

Great battle report guys, also props to Steve, they made a detailed starter video for 10th edition, also flew accross the pond to do a batrep with MWG? That's some dedication

[@Silentmobius6669]

After watching several of these out of the box fights if the Marines removed either the terminators or the dreadnaught its be a slightly more even fight.

[@89334726]

That "Oath Of Moment" feels really strong! Then again 7+ BS ought to be 50/50...

[@91elpiris]

That's the most work I've ever seen a Psychophage do, nicely done!

[@BTTFF]

Dave says I have a 6+ feel no pain. Dave immediately proceed to forget about his feels no pain. Great batrep! Thx

[@dpawluck]

I love these, The first BR to show more. Good stuff guys.

[@bigbigbear58]

A great way to showcase the set. Love the new rules and love that units don't automatically die in droves!

[@maxtracker2904]

Really fun player interaction! And, ofc, Matthew as ‘nids is always good. New rules look less clunky than I thought they’d be too…

[@andrewsiler1215]

I think the chargers and the charged should roll to hit and damage at the sametime if they both have fight first. Can't wait to preorder

[@miniwargaming]

That would be cool! I like the idea of mutually assured destruction. :)

[@jacobplayer2709]

I think they need to add initiative back instead of doing all this bullshit. They act like removing it simplifies things but it doesn’t because they have to write a book of rules on what to do instead and have to write special rules for characters to have

[@paullatham8486]

​@@jacobplayer2709100% agree. I would just give the charger a +1or2 initiative just so there is a bonus to it.

[@viktorgabriel2554]

i like that things dont just die in droves

[@gridwreckgamer6254]

yeah its def more fun when the models you put work in stay on the board

[@thundergoat421_6]

*Watches as whole squads of marines get plucked off the board on turn 1* Yeah it's great when horde armies don't get removed in swaths and elite armies do instead! :D (I still am trying to hold on strong, but with my main army getting shafted with the datasheets and watching batreps of marines getting stomped by horde...it's concerning.)

[@basteala525]

@@thundergoat421_6 Yeah I'm reminded of early 8th. This doesn't fill me with a lot of hope.

[@stevepickford3004]

@@thundergoat421_6 most games are rigged. The marines would win every time out the box. Bat reps are not great representations of real play. They are more to showcase new models

[@erih2934]

Very interesting battle report and nice to see Steve, but the highlight for me was the terrain. You don't see terrains that feel like real cities often :) All together a great report :)

[@MartinLindwyrm]

Wonderful battle :D thanks for recording guys

[@vsGoliath96]

You know, GW said that this edition would be much less killey and more tanky, but I'm seeing a significant amount of quick and easy murder going on from Turn 1 Tyranids.

[@scolack123]

the big tanks and monsters and stuff will be more tanky. infantry will still get slaughtered

[@DanKeller]

Of all the content creators playing 10th, this is the one I was waiting for

[@bramraets2094]

Quick question, at 11:28 when you shot with the barbgaunts you rolled 6s to hit would that not be sustained hits since you were shooting at infantry? Or am I misunderstanding

[@bramraets2094]

Nvm got to 13:01 and y’all mention it

[@alexanderabramov2719]

Would've been a great opportunity to showcase gambits, I think Tyranids still had a good shot :P

[@squallgoku777]

Yeah I just managed to get my hands on Leviathan, I did a quick points cost using the new 40k app and for a balanced game worked out you take the entire Tyranid side against the Space Marines minus the Apothecary and five Infernus Marines.

[@MrDeman40]

Very enjoyable to watch !! Looking forward to getting back in 40K after a hiatus since 6/7th edition . Hope to see many more games , learning to play etc .

[@wilhernandez8990]

@35:50 -page 15 Core Rules: movement, are you not able to move freely over terrain features up to 2 inches in height? how tall are those walls 🤭i wanted to see marines get diced up! you guys rock! love you all!

[@miniwargaming]

I forgot about that! I'll have to pay closer attention to it next time.

[@scotkov5356]

I was wondering the same @ 8:13 leapers moved 13 over very tall terrain? the ignore terrain? and @10:56 barbgaunts shot thru the runes at the infernus marines?

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Thank you for making this battle report!

[@RepKyle95]

Go bugs! Gonna be preordering this for an early birthday present. I'm still watching but I have a feeling they designed this box to give space marines a bit of an easier time as they usually do with starter sets. Luckily I have plenty of other nids to use.... hehehehe

[@the_average_canadian]

Reminds me of the classic "Beat Matt Batreps". Should look into restarting that series!

[@lennyt92]

quick question, ive downloaded the core rules for 10th but where do i get the "codex" for my ultramarines and what stats they all have now.. are these index cards also available now or not yet?

[@WarzoneMorloc]

Not yet brother, I reckon it won’t be long after the fire game is released though

[@stanberry6798]

Thanks for the tutorial, you guys and play on are the only 40k games I watch. I hope to see you play black templars soon for 10th

[@greggonzalez661]

Good to see the new edition is still fun and has good interactions. Lack of excess CP are prohibitive against using some of the cool strategems. Stephen seems like a great sport and player.

[@peterandjunko]

Actually they would have had extra cp for discarding tactical cards at end of the turn but they forgot they could do that … oh well, next time!

[@JakeDogg-RIP]

Go matty go!

[@LordTzeentch]

That’s an extraordinarily clean spacemarine paint job. I like the crisp look.

[@Whitewingdevil]

0:42 The indexes are available for download? Where? How?

[@miniwargaming]

Not yet. Follow Warhammer Community to find out when.

[@Whitewingdevil]

@@miniwargaming 👍I thought this might be the case, cheers!

[@QuantemFear]

Y’a when he said that I did a double take too and had to check the website 😂

[@kurt8655]

Think he was thinking the core rules

[@AxelGaude]

Sustain 1 from the Fleet shouldn't work on the Dreadnaught because its a vehicle?

[@rangercollecter23]

Anyone know where we can download the index’s they’re using for this?

[@miniwargaming]

Sorry they're not out yet. GW gave us access early so we could film this battle report.

[@DigitalSniper45]

​@@miniwargaming Thank you so much for answering this. I was like "did I miss something?!" when I heard Matt say that they were now available lol

[@grimb8kn748]

Love both the guys individually and having across over was awesome. To be honest I love any crossover between channels.

[@Xcerptshow]

Instead of the tape measure why dont you use a top down laser or light that projects selectable movement radius? Does that exist?

[@14USMA]

The measurements would stretch or shrink depending on how far the light or laser was from the surface. It's possible but impractical.

[@WhatThe40k]

Another banger of a bat rep! I appreciate the in depth peek into 10th. Also....... That table is gorgeous 😩👌

[@vocenoctum2046]

ha, Apothecary Biophagus. Small error, but I loved it. Now I want to put a squid head on one.

[@wolvie90]

Aw man I can't wait to not be able to buy the Leviathan box for months after release because of scalpers.

[@joshuasmith5472]

I feel tyranids are going to be nasty in 10th! Kind of torn is tyranids or space marines will be the new army!

[@RSB703]

what is the advantage to going random secondaries? Seems like doing fixed would be such a massive advantage no?

[@tabe8850]

I was thinking the exact same thing while watching this. I would rather have achievable secondaries than risk getting unachievable secondaries just for an extra point.

[@jonathandorsey]

Just the extra points, plus it makes it more interesting to play. I highly doubt anyone in competitions will do random.

[@sirmoth3955]

They actually missed a pretty important rule. You CAN discard secondaries at the end of your turn, and if you do, you also get an extra CP. If you think your list is well-rounded, random secondaries can be quite great.

[@hammer1349]

I think with random you can get more points per turn whereas I think with fixed, you can a max of I think it's 8

[@lichtheimer]

Given what the Barbgaunts can do with that disrupt I'd expect a few to be included in ever 'Nids army in 10th for a good while.

[@Mountain-f3t]

Does anyone have recommendations for ruined buildings?

[@platinum_3135]

8:24 shrike is going to advance?! That’s an odd looking raven guard unit!

[@EugeneRougon]

Don't all units including monsters ignore terrain features 2" or less ? (core rules p15). (charge failed past 30')

[@paulcabasag342]

where did you get the terrain mat?

[@illegalsocks]

what's the background music? can't place where it's from

[@gortonsfisherman4622]

I think it's music @miniwargaming owns. It's great I like it.

[@CeilingFann]

Anyone know where to buy those trees?

[@joshbandy8038]

Captain Vanguard killed me. 😂

[@squallgoku777]

This was a really enjoyable battle report, I wonder how it would have went if the forces were actually balanced now using points. Great video!

[@mattiasgamin3891]

Excellent! Such a great vibe with you two.

[@davormackovic2984]

I am a bit puzzled. You say using the rules from the indexes. I only see 10th edition core rules. What do you mean by indexes? Can we download them now? If so, where and how?

[@miniwargaming]

GW gave us the indexes early so that we could make battle reports. Keep an eye on Warhammer Community for when you can get them.

[@davormackovic2984]

@@miniwargamingThank you very much for the reply. Just getting back to the hobby again from a long break. Thought I may have missed something. Great video will rewatch what I have missed. Painting up some minis now.

[@domingosszabo]

Are the Vanguard dice available to buy anywhere? ;)

[@WarzoneMorloc]

That board is just stunning 😊

[@murgel2006]

I'm a big fan of not knowing all the rules, especially of not knowing all the stuff my opponent can do. It makes games so much more fun!

[@NRG19892456]

What colour are the marines' armour painted?

[@baldr2510]

Pretty sure you can't wrap models around a unit after a charge, don't they have to go to the closest part of the model?

[@scornlok9321]

Cool to see the 10th battle report but don't understand why gw is doing a pre order if they have the box sets ready to go

[@PlasticAddict301]

Havent tuned in for a few months but I'm liking the quicker format

[@samuelclemens5951]

Flame weapons are sooo useful for overwatch. Laughs in Knight Valiant conflagration cannon muhahaha

[@Kurorahk]

I feel with you drawing two secondaries per turn it might be fairer to remove the -1CP penalty for throwing one away and make it free to toss one objective card away per turn. But the downside is you can't draw one to replace it without spending CP. Overall this was a great batrep, love seeing nids whenever they are on the board.

[@SeanCavanagh-xu4ck]

What chapter are the space marines

[@kieranhoward4812]

New prime is quite possibly ass, depending on points. Special character with lone operative, a 4+ save, no invuln, but two damage attacks to kill marines, but only one pip of AP? It's not good at killing anything it seems designed to kill unless the marine player rolls badly. Should've been a 3+ save with -2 ap, or otherwise have fight first, or something that makes it likely to obtain some value in combat (since it has no shooting either). It's basically guaranteed to die against any other melee character with a 3+ armor save or better. Why does it make sense that the hive mind would design something like this? Also psychophage having D6 + 1 melee attacks makes it a bad choice (also only one -1 ap on both melee and shooting profiles), unless very cheap also. Not sure why the designers thought that was good, since it's not a support choice either and confers no other benefits on your army. I'm just not sure what any of them were thinking. Nids have almost no sources of ap -2 outside of monsters in an edition that emphasizes toughness and high save values. Not even glass cannons now. If their points aren't cheap as hell, they'll seem pretty undertuned to me. It's like 7th edition all over again.

[@Jmann-jj1jo]

First time since early 8th edition 40k has me excited to play sounds like gw finally listened

[@erpagan]

Who is Vanna White? (LOL, J/K. I'm 40, but it's funny to think how many people probably missed that joke.) Great content. Thank you for sharing.

[@lordravenblade]

Oath of moment seems crazy at small points.

[@michaelcompton7671]

Fantastic BatRep on a killer table! Thank you so much for making awesome content!!

[@matts9491]

Nice looking board, inspiring

[@amarmunaev7939]

Where can I download the index rules ??????????????????????

[@MMallon425]

Poor Librarian. Stepped on a landmine, ran off by himself and fell in a hole. Captain Vanguard swooped in to save him, rewarded with the Librarian nuking himself with his focused smite. Then he turned around a corner and was eaten by bugs. RIP

[@VanguardTactics]

This is my favourite comment haha true story

[@chgcheramie]

When does psychic take place?

[@Eykha]

psychic attacks are part of the shooting phase now, other spells are abilities that psykers have that can be used in the relevant phase (there is no psychic phase any more)

[@Jayson-tw4qp]

OMG look at that table of terrain!

[@leeshrubsole6344]

Wow the models look fantastic 😍

[@VLK_Static]

You guys really need like a dice tray with your logo so you can do the rolling without hitting the table

[@terryglidden5007]

Not sure if it was mentioned in the comments, you can't end a move of any kind on an Objective Marker.

[@IrishinTheMist]

thats a crisp white i like it

[@jjakjjak5231]

Gorgeous table, as always. And good, fun play

[@danielhall5554]

It's a MattRep!!!

[@DS-si5cp]

feeling like the infernus will only be useful with the new transport rules

[@Surge7-hs63k]

How do you already have it !!!!!!!!!!!!! whats the date it is available for pre-order!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[@TheDanever]

It’s pretty normal for content creators to get stuff early. They’re usually hardcore fans so getting stuff early and free is a real boon. In return GW get free advertising and of course we get to enjoy the content. It’s an all round win for everyone really.

[@uselesspocketwatch]

Rumor is the 10th, release to be the 24th.

[@kevoreilly6557]

They get early so they can creat content (which in recent times drives demands for boxes that you have to bother buy from scalpers or wait 6 months)

[@tabletopchuck512]

Matt this board and the armies look so awesome where can i get the trees

[@Hanibaltherogue]

In the history of this game I believe no one did roll this bad ever… not even spacemarine Steve does 😂😂😂

[@Slapdab]

I like a battle report I can watch in an hour

[@dragonrider0079]

Am I missing a rule on Secondary Objectives via cards? I see these things everywhere but I have never seen any ruling on them, much less the cp to lose one and draw another. Is this a tournament thing or something?

[@vashoom]

It's in the Leviathan Chapter Approved Mission Pack. AKA, matched play for 10th. Presumably, they will release new mission packs in each "Season" of 10th instead of those grand tournament books.

[@Teemkill]

You can shoot at monsters in combat now :) and vehicles

[@Teemkill]

And I just got to that point in the video haha

[@zaganim3813]

you cant improve a 3+ save vs ap1 weapons but you can vs ap2>