*10TH EDITION!!* Space Marines vs Chaos Space Marines | Warhammer 40k Battle Report

[@tabletoptactics]

Please read me, it will answer some questions 😁 Hey guys! Hope you all enjoy our first ever 10th Edition Battle Report! We just wanted to note that, while we say in the video that World Eaters vs Adeptus Custodes will be up On Demand right now, this has been delayed to Monday due to shifting embargo dates. We would have loved to show you guys that video today, but unfortunately we can’t. We will have three 10th Edition Battle Reports coming exclusively to On Demand next week, so be sure to sign up so you don’t miss out! For now, enjoy the game, as we adventure forth into 10th Edition 😎 - Jinx It's also worth noting that there is a misunderstanding of "Out-of-Phase" rules not allowing abilities to be used. This isn't the case in some instances during the game, but it balances out for both sides. The misreading was my fault. Yes, even I can make mistakes in a brand new edition with brand new rules 😅 - Chef

[@tabletoptactics]

Check out the link to On a demand here! tabletoptactics.tv Stay Bosses 😎 - Jinx

[@Karlosdjackle]

You're really bring punished for 10th release compared to all of the other channel's. Its super harsh. The likes of Titans and their 10 days of 10th have been allowed to demo 4 factions a day.

[@steveclapton]

Happy to wait a couple of extra days if it means I get to see *all* my Custodies options in play :)

[@Karlosdjackle]

Ya all of the options were in play with Titans. It was a great bat rep I you like custodes. You should check it out

[@talscorner3696]

CUSTODES versus World Eaters?! Nois...

[@stevenslawson8926]

Really great production quality. Beautifully painted models. Nice camera work. Just excellent work from the team all around.

[@tabletoptactics]

Very much appreciated comment, sir. Lots of hard work put in. Glad you enjoyed it 🫡 - Beard

[@rcmwalker1987]

designers commentary that came out with the points said that stratagems that make units untargetable like dark obscuration interrupted the shooting. The unit is able to target another unit, but the Chaos terminator could not have been shoot outside 12" on turn 1.

[@ryanseiffert9969]

You all make my favorite bat reps of all time. Your banter elevate the experience a thousand fold! Keep up the 4 armed emperors work!

[@tabletoptactics]

Much appreciated! Glad you enjoyed it! More to come here and On Demand in the coming weeks! - Beard

[@bjorngullstrand6772]

These two guys. The best chemistry! If every battle report was done by you two I’d be watching non stop!

[@zamnodorszk7898]

Beard desperately trying not to say “abdomen” all game was a highlight. 😂

[@tabletoptactics]

I think I blew a blood vessel with the strain and mental load. - Beard

[@huwtindall7096]

​@@tabletoptacticsfailed your dark pact battle shock test?

[@nathancooley8459]

The Anti x keyword isn’t just “always wounds on X” it crits, meaning your combi weapons should have triggered devastating wounds on a 4+

[@ChrisNihilus]

Abaddon being T5 will never stop being silly.

[@kaelbeuk1]

What does T5 mean, please good sir ?

[@kaelbeuk1]

@@andrewbakescakes9684 Oh yeah that seems kinda low. Wasn't aware of the lingo, thanks !

[@krikkitelder]

I admit it's not entirely clear, but I don't think Abaddon's melee weapon's lose their Devastating Wounds characteristic if he's fighting Out-of-Phase (i.e. using the Khorne stratagem to fight after being destroyed), as the designer commentary seems to clarify you just can't use abilities that are triggered in a specific phase, i.e. if you use Overwatch to shoot with a Whirlwind, even though you make shooting attacks similar to the Shooting phase, you don't get to trigger the Pinning bombardment ability (which says: "In your Shooting phase..."). Devastating wounds just occur when a critical wound roll for an attack is made, it doesn't matter what phase it occurs in. Love the content, and really keen to see more tenth.

[@1dwkjr]

Yes, I agree. I found their interpretation bizarre.

[@Karlosdjackle]

Ya it was a very weird call. Doesn't make sense

[@tabletoptactics]

Indeed. We shot this before the designers commentary but we now know going forwards 👍🏻 thanks for watching through to the end! - Beard

[@CodyMatlock-hd3ej]

Glad to see this. I was looking through the book trying to figure what they were on about that the weapon suddenly just stopped working as it was written.

[@EpicDoom80]

also important note, fighting in the fight phase is not "out of phase", so if he did have some wacky rule beyond his weapon attacks he should still be able to use it

[@Darth_Vayne]

I enjoy your battle reports so much, reminds me of why I fell in love with this hobby in the first place, fun with friends and compelling and competitive games. I've been away from the game for a decade, and all of you at Tabletop Tactics have helped turn my hype for tenth edition up to 11. Keep up the good work!

[@PsychicalTraumaPL]

1:40:56 I'm pretty sure that devastating wounds works always, cause it's not phase locked, just every time the attack is made 😎

[@n0rst4thew1cked3]

I'm new to Tabletop Tactics and I gotta say the new production value they've brought in is amazing. I'm a huge metal (and all heavier genres) fan and the intro music is badass. Love the new stuff guys. Keep it up!

[@FerreusVir]

I really enjoy it when Beard and Lawrence get a chance to do a game together, your personalities have always been so great together and easily the biggest reason I've watch so much of your stuff! Can't wait for more stuff from you guys, when I get some spare scratch I'm definitely signing up for OnDemand.

[@caliban9347]

So wait at 45:00-ish woudn't the Termintators fight first? They have Fights First (charged) and the defending player picks first? Or i'm just high on warp dust i dunno.

[@Videovore]

As said in the Heroic Intervention strat restriction text, "your unit does not receive any Charge bonus this turn" so no Fight First ability granted

[@caliban9347]

@@Videovorefigured something like that, thanks for the heads-up

[@Narokh]

A thing of note about Guilliman's Master of Battle ability: While you gain full re-rolls against the second target, it technically does not count as being the target of Oath of Moment. While this specific detail will most of the time not have any impact, the Terminators for example would not get their +1 to hit against it.

[@ZaberFangAT]

I love the sheer giddy joy you guys have at the thematic moments in batreps like these! Makes the time just fly by watching them

[@ShahbazBokhari]

Finally. All is right in the world. It's Table Top Tactics. It's 10th Edition. It's Loyalists vs Heretics. It's BIG, people. EDIT: THE ROLL OFF ALONE WAS SO HYPE!

[@tabletoptactics]

It’s time babyyyyyyy!! - Beard

[@raedkhalil6937]

A classic matchup! I look forward to see the Avenging Son slap that uppity "warmaster"!

[@MetalMosher446]

27:00 when using dark obscuration, wouldnt the hellblasters not be eligible to shoot the terminators at all and have to pick a new target ? this is assuming they are more than 12'' which it looks like they are

[@spatwo1936]

According to designer's commentary what you say is correct.

[@Bushlore1]

Except they had indirect fire added to them so wouldn’t that trump it all?

[@peeledapples4176]

Played a game of tenth after work. My brother’s orks absolutely hosed my Death Guard in 3 turns. Didn’t feel less lethal at all with all the stacking weapon abilities. I want so badly to be hyped for 10th but jeeeeez it just felt rough to me.

[@UnkaStunka]

Yeah not the first time GW says one the and does the opposite

[@sk8er217man1]

Wild combo from the Spider with hellblasters. Could’ve re-rolled the wound roll at 29:02 as well because terminators were oath of moment. Awesome battle report team! Loving the 10th edition content.

[@Saerhos]

I was going to say the same thing. Love you guys !

[@tabletoptactics]

Thank you! LOTS more to come here and On Demand!

[@bastianhoffmann1223]

Question how did you add an apothecary and a lieutanant?

[@rcmwalker1987]

@@tabletoptactics designers commentary that came out with the points said that stratagems that make units untargetable like dark Obscuration interrupted the shooting. The unit is able to target another unit, but the Chaos terminator could not have been shoot outside 12" on turn 1. So unfortunately it could not have been done that turn, so probably for the best that it did not re-roll.

[@nicolassalden4481]

What color blue was used on the ultramarines? Love that bright tone!

[@RealmDesigner]

You guys have come so far. Top tier, super professional (but also super fun) content. Keep up the good work TTT!

[@-Kidzin]

Also Lord, how much would I love to see Chef's facial expressions the first moment he sees Eldar rules, Wraith Knights and their points xD

[@jakobknudsen6864]

I am very happy the editor decided to keep in Beard's "descorching?" at 33:42, that got a genuine chuckle out of me

[@tabletoptactics]

The comedy defies the cutting room floor. -Beard

[@justinn5357]

I really reallllllly enjoy that you guys go with a heavy soundtrack for these things. It’s perfect cause there’s no screaming, but it adds a rhythm of anticipation for the battle to come. Def keep the badass music, even goes great with the super nice people in the video a good contrast !!

[@otaha1988]

26:33 when he says but wait. A commercial literally plays after. I busted out laughing

[@tabletoptactics]

KZbin advertisers leaving us on cliffhangers!

[@navelwarfare3247]

10:22 What a first roll for a new edition! Hopefully a good omen of things to come

[@tabletoptactics]

🎉

[@DMHightower]

This is a likely candidate for the best Battle Report I've ever watched!! I love the banter, and the lore/immersion! The terrain and armies are gorgeous. The camera angles and framing are top-notch! Easily making it much more watchable and comprehensible! The editing work is also excellent!!! Thanks to your whole team for a very enjoyable video!!!

[@sarinat3101]

2:29 I just finished "Know No Fear", and it feels so cool to see the red-painted helm in action knowing where it came from!

[@BS-uq7cv]

I havent played this game in 15+ years but my dad recently passed and i found my old chaos space marines so i was thinking about getting back into it. So awesome that now theres a youtube channel that makes rejoining seem easier. Thank u

[@Bushlore1]

Dude you got no idea! There are facegroup groups meeting everywhere to play, you can play the whole game for free on table top simulator to get the bugs out, there are discord servers for it and you can learn it all from there. Also there are thousand of battle reports online now days. I also haven’t played in almost 2 decades and getting back into it and learning was actually easier this time than the first. to top it all off I am resin printing minis to fill in as I grow my first army. Crazy good time to be a table top warrior!

[@Trolleri87]

Those are amongst the best painted armies i ever saw! Praise to the artist 🙏

[@md-3941]

Until recently the only batrep channel Ive been watching was play on tabletop, but Ive checked other channels recently and found yours. This was the most entertaining battle report Ive watched to date, and making up all those cool scenarios along the way was amazing, keep up the good work!

[@amysnuggs]

This was so much fun to watch! I’m loving the changes to the game!

[@TheGammabomb06]

Gentlemen, the presentation and enthusiasm of your battle reports are always a joy to watch. Thank you. Edit: Just subscribed to your website to help support the team.

[@tabletoptactics]

Thanks so much!

[@beanman853]

41:00 would have been 3mw because anti-something is a critical hit so therefore activates devistating wound

[@Glynniatures]

that was amazing, I loved it, so happy to see you two really enjoy the game also. and seeing my blue boy acting like a primarch gave me such joy can not wait for all the 10th content coming from you

[@tabletoptactics]

He’s finally doing something!! Big blow up for G-Man. Glad you enjoyed it. Lots to come between here and On Demand 👍🏻 - Beard

[@angelskyd]

I am confused by something in this video. at 27:20 When the Terminators used DARK OBSCURATION, The marines still shot at them. Using the Stratagem doesn't force the Marines to select a different target? They are further than 12 inches. Does the fact that the marines initially selected the Terms negate the current round of the Obscuration? Also, When the Abaddon used the Skinshift strategem to get back 3 wounds, because he is Tzeentch, wouldn't he have been able to resurrect a unit?

[@halfcrafted]

So good to see 10th edition here at last and you guys so excited and enthusiastic for it!!!

[@JochemToolenaar]

Best produced battle report on the net. Well done love the editing!

[@raedkhalil6937]

The hellblaster shooting was confusing. Lawrence rolled 10 crit hits right? So that would be 10 extra hits and 10 autowounds with all the buffs. He also rolled 2 other 4+ as far as I saw. Shouldn't that mean he would roll 12 dice for the wound roll with 10 autowounds on the side? Instead he rolled 22 dice for the wound roll.

[@ShameyBaby]

I noticed the same thing - he must’ve made a mistake.

[@tabletoptactics]

Looks like I made a mistake with it, nerfing my own rules at the same time 🤣

[@WarpstonePainting]

Now THIS was a game, holy hell that standoff between Robby G and Yabbaddoo the despoiler at the end in the arena was EPIC!!! Y'all have the best sense of humor too I rewatch these videos all the time, especially when Spider and Bard play against each other because they are so goofy.

[@corvaxblackfeather6529]

Abaddon getting up again... thats epic! "That was not enoth Boy.... let me show you how it is really done." DAMN that was one hell of a Battle :) Love it

[@tomsandison3465]

Brilliant battle. Haven’t gamed in 25 years but this bout and 10th edition has drawn me back in…where to start???

[@kyuubifox33]

37:45 killed me. Could not stop laughing because I wasn’t expecting it.

[@DesolateDolly]

That battle between Abaddon and Guilliman was like a little mini recreation of the Emperor and Horus. Abaddon is defeated by the Emperor's Sword! ... but has gravely wounded the primarch in return. (Lucky that Bobby G wasn't so badly done in as to need a golden throne and Abaddon returns of course to his masters.)

[@jamesroberts8894]

That was the best TT BR I've watched in over a year imo. Very informative and very entertaining. It was especially funny when Baker referred to his upstart sergeant as a "squeegee little goblin". BR gold 👍

[@danimarch2639]

So cinematic to see Bobby G and Abbadon in that final confrontation, Great Stuff!

[@thekaird377]

What an amazing battle report this was! All three of you clearly love the hobby and were so excited to be involved 👏🏻 Fantastic as always! Spider - your commentary and thematic dialogue are amazing!

[@tabletoptactics]

Thank you!

[@konradnalepa6701]

Hey, can anyone explain to me, why did Devastating Wounds didn't go through at 1:40:59 ?

[@tabletoptactics]

Made a mistake with the interpretation. We know for next time.

[@derekball3965]

Love it ! The quality always gets better , as always players top notch . Great game top to bottom

[@gerryjamesedwards1227]

I wonder whether the firing deck rules difference between Imperial and Chaos Rhinos will come up?

[@jackfreeburn8795]

Quick question, would abaddon have had to roll battle shock when he was down to 2 wounds as he is under half strength? Please correct me if i'm wrong

[@tabletoptactics]

You’re not wrong! We must have rolled off camera and not mentioned that he passed.

[@walkingthepathofthedammed]

Yessssssss 10th is finally here. Thank you for the amazing content as always! Cant wait to watch this one in full!

[@tabletoptactics]

Yaasss 10th edition! Thank you! - Jinx

[@demiantaylor3317]

1hr 35min in stop painting and watch, this is why I love W40K, excellent game and video as always from you guys stoked for 10th, Warhammer world is my local store and can’t wait to pop in next Saturday to pick up some drop pods 🤘🏼

[@tabletoptactics]

🤩 thank you! - Beard

[@CBus-gf4id]

Big fan of CornerBard™️ Cameo at 21:12

[@tabletoptactics]

It’s our new sponsor 😅 - Beard

[@sirscallywagmcmuffin5394]

Completely forgot to comment after watching. Excellent piece of work team, if the whole of 10th is like this it is going to be your best content ever. Keep on crushing it you are all doing a cracking job!!!

[@declancarroll3131]

Loved this, great intro to 10th edition! Helps that they're the two armies I collect. Studio is looking mint as well boys. Keep up the good work.

[@bosskoala7]

Wow forge fiend is completely savage. So much for making such a fuss about oath of moment

[@tabletoptactics]

He sure is a fiend! - Jinx

[@bosskoala7]

​@@tabletoptactics Now that I looked at the points, 165 pts model removing a unit worth 305 pts (counting Apothecary) in one salvo. Savage (granted with the right combo of Blast, Daemonic ordinance, dark pact, profane zeal). It really shows how the right thinking of synergies in 10th will be able to produce certain Alpha strikes. I don't think the game will be less killy actually.

[@MegaBsterling]

@Beard Since Abaddon has Tzeentch keyword, you could have been targeting his unit with Skinshift to heal 3 wounds AND returning Terminators with full wounds to the battlefield for 1cp per turn.

[@tabletoptactics]

Yeah man I’m still getting my head round everything Abaddon can do with a unit of Terminators!

[@FugBenis]

I'm confused about the sustained hits and lethal hits combo at 28:10, why did Lawrence use the 5s and 6s to roll wounds, didint they already auto wound? Wouldnt the 10 critical hits create 10 auto wounds and 10 extra hits to be rolled for wounding?

[@tabletoptactics]

He just picked up too many dice. Excitement + new rules + filming and explaining. These things happen 😅

[@MeBotheringYou]

No one does battle report production value like Tabletop Tactics. Great job yet again!

[@boredsoim01]

Since he has all of the chaos marks, doesn't Abaddon get both sustained and lethal hits on 5's at all times?

[@tabletoptactics]

Yeah I made a mistake there. I blame the hype. - Beard

[@boredsoim01]

@@tabletoptactics It was very hype!

[@peters6345]

That was a really fun game. Lots of back and forward. That final duel was amazing

[@HumorousPaladin]

Now I could be wrong here but when the Bladeguard come in from the drop pods, aren’t they not allowed to charge since the drop pod counts as making a Normal Move from Reinforcements and models disembarking from a transport are disallowed from making a charge?

[@thejestor9378]

It doesn’t count as making a move when it comes in, instead it is set up from reserves.

[@HumorousPaladin]

⁠@@thejestor9378read the reinforcements rule in the Core Rules and the Commentary they put out today. It says that when they are set up, they count as having made a Normal Move.

[@apollo5224]

@@HumorousPaladin your always allowed to charge after making a normal move. Seems fine to me just like any normal deep strike.

[@UntiltedName]

@@apollo5224 its in the disembarking rules that specifically says they can't charge after disembarking from a transport that moved. Sadly. Drop pods go back in the box for another half decade, yay, ugh. this also tracks with the assault ramp rule that specifically exists to circumvent this restriction.

[@apollo5224]

@@UntiltedName ah right its about the disembark not the moving part.

[@jonathankelly4222]

As an American, I'd love a full bat rep of Spider using his American accent.

[@tabletoptactics]

Maybe he can use the Scions and roleplay! - Beard

[@forgedwarrior20]

Very, very well fought Beard! You too Spider, as always! Great game gents!

[@tabletoptactics]

Thank you, sir! Glad you enjoyed it

[@chrisgibbons2415]

Dark obscuration would happen immediately (I think) for the attack on the terminators. There is something about rules that say "just after? as applying to the action that was about to happen

[@tabletoptactics]

Indeed, this was filmed prior to that clarification in the Designers Commentary 🙂

[@jesters89]

I’m struggling to find where in the rules it talks about special abilities not functioning out of sequence. Can anyone help with this? Laurence references this a few times in the video, including around 1:40:15 when Abaddon fights on death.

[@jesters89]

Never mind- found a clarification in the comments.

[@ThijsSchrijnemakers]

This was such a great game, and that end! Really like that the game is less killy. CMS and the pacts were great. loved it

[@asmcelhinney]

Honestly one of the best games I've seen in a long time. Love the energy and enthusiasm.

[@tabletoptactics]

Very kind of you to say so. Cheers! - Beard

[@cavedog1989]

So at 50:34 ish you guys had terminators with pwr fists hitting the chaos marines. When rolling the fnp you need to do it by model basis. You were treating it like MW where all damage spills but in thos case if you save 1 of the 2d that the fists deal then he could "eat" another full fist.

[@samcook9542]

So strange that when I search Table Top Tactics I get videos from a week ago no matter what filters I use so have have to endlessly refresh my YT page and hope the algorithm gods bless me as they have today Excited for all of your 10th edition content!!

[@tabletoptactics]

Glad you found us! Lots of 10th Ed to come here and on Demand 👍🏻

[@nraketh]

KZbin search is awful.

[@shadowrigg]

Really love the look and paint of that Apothecary

[@Bambutcher2]

Well, actually Abaddon's devastating wounds should've triggered, the rules that's not getting triggered are those that specify a phase in which they apply.

[@tabletoptactics]

Indeed, just a misinterpretation of the rules, bound to happen early on, but at least its caught now 😅

[@Bambutcher2]

@@tabletoptactics nevertheless it was truly epic, thank you guys

[@alessandrorottigni4403]

Lovely batreb! Question: 40:55 , since the terminators have all 4 marks does it mean they get sustained hits on 5+?

[@darquessd825]

I don't understand why should they have all the marks. You have to choose 1 per unit. The fact the Abaddon has the 4 doesn't they have right ? 🤔

[@darquessd825]

Mean*

[@tabletoptactics]

All Keywords are transferred between Leaders and Units, so yes they would get all the Marks. Makes sense in a way, the Gods are all watching Abaddon, so their Gaze is felt by his retinue as well 🙂

[@alessandrorottigni4403]

@@tabletoptactics thank you!

[@Shrrrg]

Thanks for the batrep. As i dont enjoy many of the meta choices they did in 40k with the new edition this will be how I will experience 40k for quite a while

[@tabletoptactics]

Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻👍🏻

[@ASparkyB]

Drop pod bladeguards should get you a CP back just for the Rule of Cool.

[@CrazyMongol123]

Such an entertaiment game! Absolutely love to watch!

[@laszlopolyak4353]

You also can use dark pact many many more times, as you can use it in shooting and in fight phase as well on the same unit.

[@brentleask3877]

Loving all the channels doing 10 th ed this week. Beautiful armies too even if the Ultramarines are a bit light blue for my liking. Great content for me to watch here in Oz.

[@tabletoptactics]

Cheers Brent!

[@88danju]

thanks guys for a fantastic battle. Also extra thanks for showing off my beloved chaos marines. Having my first game today with the spiky ones. For the dark gods!

[@tabletoptactics]

For chaos!! - Jinx

[@andeeedc]

Is there a reason at around 1:08:12 Aby’s 3 6’s weren’t mortal wounds ? Or just an oversight ? Great game !

[@AbadonBIack]

The editing on this is really well done!

[@WarmasterIrraz]

Fantastic first game to start of the edition with! Can't wait to play my first game myself!

[@tabletoptactics]

Thank you! And we hope your first game is as much of a blast!! - Jinx

[@hostilegalaxyandkitchentab6456]

Oh it has been so long since I’ve watched y’all! Took a long break for the end of 9th. This game brought me so much joy! Love your energy and enthusiasm! I’m really looking forward to 10th!!

[@tabletoptactics]

Welcome back!! Thanks for watching - Beard

[@texasnativr4550]

Those green dice that Beard has are so awesome I just had to have them! Just bought them from your shop wooo I’m excited

[@mikedemarco9391]

So hype to see this on my front page! Might just have to sign up for On Demand! Keep up the fantastic work you crazy bastards. Laser canon!

[@joelpatterson3118]

Well that was a great introduction to 10th edition. What an awesome game with some really cool moment. Guilliman vs Abbadon up top was storyline perfection.

[@izzibizzistrizzi]

at 1:17:00 why doesn't oath of moment work on Abaddon?

[@MrTpimms]

Can’t remember the last time Spider lost a game, seriously impressive strategist, I have much to learn!

[@tabletoptactics]

He’s a very good player! - Beard

[@_knaff]

35:28 How you got 13 shots when roll 3D3+2 (for blast)?

[@jfish91]

Didn't see anyone else mention it, but you take the leadership test for Dark Pacts after all attacks have been resolved.

[@DaggeeggaD]

Best battle report in a long time! 🤩

[@rockingham7825]

The 2 CP for Infernal Rites isn't a typo, it's there to make you rethink your life choices that led you to Chaos.

[@tabletoptactics]

🤨 - Beard

[@lorajamnik545]

corpse worshipper spotted

[@SmurphofChaos]

lol check the updates

[@AncientIrishCelt]

Thanks for the 10th battle reports so soon. I learn easier watching others so i appreciate it!

[@imperiumdeliriumminiatures6933]

Fun battle report, surprised csm hung in as close as they did. Would be interesting to see some possessed and warp talons in a bat rep, I think it would shift things quite a bit.

[@aHippieWithKnives]

The music in these batreps is always 🔥

[@tabletoptactics]

Thanks! I struggle to use anything but metal when I’m editing 😅 - Beard

[@1stCaptainDaltron]

This is the best battle report ( in my opinion) that I’ve seen. You can tell they are both having an excellent time 😎

[@davidwatts847]

The intro music is 10/10. my god I was ready for Abbadon to go full doom guy