Converting my 4WD RC car into a RWD DRIFT CAR!

In this episode of 10th Scale Garage, I convert my Kyosho Fazer MK2 4wd RC into a RWD Drift car. I often get asked if it's possible to convert a 4wd drifter into a 2wd drifter and today I show you the best way to convert this Kyosho into a drift car. Because you CAN do something, does it mean you SHOULD do it? This Toyota tundra gets some custom upgrades to compete against the MST RMX 2.0. If you're a beginner and just getting into drifting, this video will help you decide if the conversion is worth it.

[@LyroLife]

You can totally turn any 4WD RC car into a great RWD drifter. What you need is: - more steering angle (mods needed) - weight balance -rear tires grip adjustment - lots of Rc drifting experience

[@Extra_Gluten]

In the process of doing this conversion now. Gyro otw👍

[@LyroLife]

@@Extra_Gluten make a video of your project

[@tylerseabook9423]

@@LyroLife technically it could be done but the time and cost is not worth it

[@Ben_Z33]

After a long time out of the hobby I decided to get back into it again for a Start up ...lol many pro drifters will hate me for this but I 3d printed my rwd rc chassis based off a few rwd chassis available on the market my theory is if your chassis is well balanced it is mostly your electronics and suspension that determines how good a Rc drift car can be. The chassis I made did not cost me more then 50 dollars to 3d print xD will see where it goes when I got it all assembled and running

[@GF-mf7ml]

No gyro and wide steering no drift.

[@OppositePengui]

Instead of snipping the center driveshaft, couldn’t you have only removed the front driveshafts that connect to the hubs?

[@10thScaleGarage]

Don’t bring logic into this!

[@OppositePengui]

@@10thScaleGarage noted

[@occrc3333]

Removing the center drive shaft will lighten the load on the electronics

[@OppositePengui]

@@occrc3333 yeah, but for a brushed drift car I don’t think it’s needed to do that a whole lot. And you can convert it back to normal later if you want.

[@occrc3333]

I get what you're saying @OppositePengui I just like to over do it with cooling/motor load

[@The_RC_Dude]

My 4WD brushless converted 144001 on stock tires will "drift" a lot better then this, but man, that Tundra shell is crazy sick, I've always loved that truck.

[@moereefer]

Integey sells a conversion drift kits for HPI, TAMIYA ECT...

[@MR.OOFofficial]

I made one and it came out amazing but i also have a made rwd drift csr

[@gabrielpichardo1492]

That is awesome!! Looks sick!! I think it can be made to steer more with like a longer throw servo horn

[@VS666]

it's incredible how specific my YT recommendations are sometimes...when I saw the review of this truck I thought to myself hmmmm...what would it take to turn this into a drift car...

[@hamsterwolf]

some thoughts here. you might need a faster servo if the servo is too slow then the gyro cant adjust fast enough to deal with the car trying to switch ends. the car also needs a lot more angle and camber adjustment, so a platform that has drift parts available for it already might work better like a tt02 or something. the transmitter and receiver is probably ok along with the brushed motor.

[@Storyracing387]

Yeahbi have to agree, the RMX is definitely a great starting point in 1/10 scale drifting. I've been buying up a handful of bodies and wheels for my chassis. Great video, cool to see ya'll trying things even when they don't work out!

[@10thScaleGarage]

Always!

[@VS666]

love my 2.0, going on a year now and still haven't had any issues. i love grabbing a set of wheels or a new body every once in awhile just to mix it up

[@federicolevorato810]

You Need a better throttle Control, more practice and try to move the battery on the back to move the weight in the rear of the car

[@tylerseabook9423]

Nothing you said will work it doesn’t have the proper steering angle

[@luckaes15]

I did it with my tamiya tt02. I just took out the drive shaft. Then, I increased the steering angle (bought the MRC steering angle kit. Recommend it to other people. You just need to cut up a few parts in the chassis.)

[@guitarzzero]

3 things…4 with DONT CHOP PARTS OUT🙄…. Ackerman Toe Track Did you guys hold your breath too long before making this? Waaaaay too many dabs? Boozy Afternoon and Stoney Beard destroy a sweet touring car…

[@10thScaleGarage]

I’ll chop whatever I dang we’ll please. There no Ackerman, toe or track adjustment. Also, the people who ask about converting their 4WD into RWD usually don’t have the skills to confidently adjust the suspension geometry of their car. I stand behind the idea that you’re wY better off building a dedicated RWD chassis than trying to convert a 4WD. Not saying it’s impossible, just saying it’s not worth the headache for most people. Your mom loves my beard.

[@guitarzzero]

Dude, my Mom NEVER shuts up about your beard! I’m like, “Mom, enough!! Where’s my lunch?” N she’s all, “That guy, from the little car garage? I’m getting his beard tattooed on my back!” N I’m all like, “Gross Mom!! I want lunch!!” She’s at the tattoo place now…bet she comes back with some rando…n I still didn’t get lunch…

[@gucciskunkit]

So nice. like the 1sg touch.. lol what i just changed the tires?!? so dang cool!

[@alexmann2717]

Faster servo, longer servo horn, trim the chassis for clearance on steering arms... More cheap options! I got a 4Tec drifting really close to the purpose built ones. Used the steering bar from the RMX as well. Its possible and wasn't expensive. Better to just buy a car specialized for the purpose in the end though. Good vid.

[@EastSideObi]

Grammar police 👮‍♀️2:13 kyosho motor is parallel……meaning it runs the same direction of the chassis The MST motor is perpendicular meaning it runs 90 degrees to the direction of the chassis ALWAYS REMEMBER railroad tracks for parallels and intersections for perpendicular Great content though! Keep up the good work

[@Bluespade115]

Wanted to ask have you all tried the "Yeah Racing Tamiya Ver 2 Drift Conversion" I think the Fazer MK2 and TT02 are similar enough to use same parts.

[@socksonfeet8125]

Dam I thought I was a noob, for some guys who have a whole RC channel its pretty dumb to say you cant turn a AWD into RWD drift when there are hundreds of videos on KZbin, even on the recommended side tab, that have already done it 😆😂. There are full kits available as well for different brand conversion that can get you a full rwd converted car for under $300. Pretty naive to say NO just go an buy a $700 car instead... 🤣

[@kenthirakoune3907]

You can but your steering angle is limited. I’m sure you can get a steering kit that’ll fit on the chassis.

[@koguchipower4816]

I brought the TT-02D and was disappointed in the amount of hop ups needed to get it to slide. So i'm looking at purchasing a proper rwd drift rc. Im new to rc could you guys recommend a good rwd drift rc for armature drifter.

[@rcmakingtracks18]

Ha, great video guys...

[@10thScaleGarage]

Thanks!

[@Migz625]

Anyone know we’re I can get brake disc and calipers for a sakura d5 mrs evo v2?

[@LukazRC]

im turning a TT02D to RWD for drifting i have a heap of 4wd RCs ive made RWD on my channel for racing

[@jettwilliams239]

Yo I have a hsp flying fish and I wanna know what it’s like to drive with awd and solid plastic tyres

[@muaythai193]

All you need is a 275mm conversion deck for the RMX or YD-2…

[@StonerGamingParadise]

What rims are those? My buddy gave me a set and have no idea what company makes them.

[@GF-mf7ml]

You need at least 60° steering angle. More is better until 90°

[@Zerone888]

This is not a good car and nothing was made to be a drift car either see my awd rwd conversion

[@Oopsitsme77]

It IS possible. I have an HSP chassis 4WD I removed the front diff and axles and the center drive shaft. I placed my motor in the center BTW I bought an Amazon aluminum chassis without the sectioned areas for everything (flat chassis) and I locked my rear diff and bought a gyro and that’s all she wrote. Works perfectly maybe not as perfect as the MST of course but it’s definitely possible. And I bought fairly cheap stuff too. Now my steering has a bit more angle than this tundra but my components are different and adjustable

[@10thScaleGarage]

Nice!!

[@alexf7173]

Now the R&D Part starts and then you could Drift IT

[@NathanStorer-RC]

I love the body. Maybe you could see if it would fit on the MST.

[@kingwally4545]

It did not, wheel bases are different

[@10thScaleGarage]

We tried. No dice.

[@stetchkov]

Illest nice, back then were the good days. Canibeat?!

[@wesleerising1234]

A couple of my favorite people! Keep up the good work!

[@10thScaleGarage]

Ayyyyyyy! Thanks brother.

[@FeralRC]

I used to think that 4 wheel drive RC cars were the only way and that's all I bought. One day I couldn't resist buying a Team Associated Trophy Rat and I learned the error of my ways. What an awesome truck! I since have acquired a few more RWD trucks just for ripping around ball fields and on slick wet blacktop. Well, my 3 year old does most the driving now and he drifts like a pro.

[@10thScaleGarage]

I’ve only got a couple, but my 2WD Losi tenacity is an absolute ripper! I also have the team associated dirt oval car that is super fun to drive.

[@jeffv2074]

Real drift cars dont use plastic tires. I would love to this with hard rubber tires, more ateering angle. The electric motors put out instant torque. Im not to impressed with the slow rc car drifting but if that tickles your fancy , to each his own. I got bored.

[@10thScaleGarage]

My Sakura D4 has hard rubber tires. It drifts like crap….. better than the Kyosho though.

[@Just_Another_Ghost4-2]

I recently converted a tt02 to a rwd drift car, been a bit of a struggle and you're right I should've just gotten an mst but the work and effort is what made it so much fun and worth my time and money, anyone can buy a drift car and it'll just work, but I love what I have made

[@LukazRC]

I'm doing a tt02 aswell I need to get the whole front steering angle conversion I've only just put a spool in so far and has no front diff

[@Just_Another_Ghost4-2]

@@LukazRC nice, I locked my stock rear diff with shoe goo like they did, but im running the camber kit, with I believe is a 72t spur and 17t pinion (can't find my 19t) but I to need a better angle kit for the front, however I'm using mostly aluminum parts for weight to keep it grounded, and I'll be honest I did use the dumborc 6c with gyro instead of a separate gyro receiver, and it counters very well I just had to place it a little closer to the rear so it catches the rear oversteer instead of the front understeer

[@SURCs]

But I think it’s a fun car in this modified style.

[@RCBirds]

A very interesting experiment. Although it might be not the result we hoped for, thanks for your effort.

[@10thScaleGarage]

Thanks for watching!!

[@Motofoko]

I only lock the rear differential , nothing else remove and put drift tyre seems work for me to drift around :) Ps : I'm a newbie xD

[@joshuasalisbury789]

What car are you running

[@michaelcliffe562]

Cutting that drive shaft like that also made me go "nooooooo, whyyyyyy, nooooo"😂 Thanks for the laughs and merry christmas!

[@10thScaleGarage]

Yolo!

[@wilarsuki]

Vaterra is more a touring chassis than a drift one. Hpi rs4 tho have a bit more steering angle, simpler conception and easier to make a real rwd conversion out of it Tt02 have a kit already available, easiest and cheapest option

[@10thScaleGarage]

Good thing we have a bunch of TT-02s!

[@NutjobGTO]

Can you turn a Tamiya Semi into a drift car?

[@r8d4tube]

Another KZbinr converted his Kyosho fazer amg into a rear wheel drift car. Check it out.

[@10thScaleGarage]

Wasn’t that me?

[@islandrc-duke1972]

great video and information

[@10thScaleGarage]

Thank you, sir.

[@islandrc-duke1972]

@@10thScaleGarage 🙂👍

[@paulclancy2404]

If my lhs has mst tomorrow merry Christmas to me 😆 it's freezing outside atleast can play indoors

[@10thScaleGarage]

Merry Xmas brother!

[@OldeSchoolRcUk]

Yea tamia do an rwd drift conversion and so do Hpi. Well yea racing does the Hpi sprint 2 and flux conversion

[@10thScaleGarage]

We have a flux

[@thiagohebllet3599]

Olá bom dia, onde encontra esse kit de discos e pinças de freio?... Eu gostei muito

[@10thScaleGarage]

The brake disk and calipers came with the truck, but you can find sets for specific models on Amazon along with universal rotors that are basically just wheel hexes that look like brake rotors.

[@TrokaRC]

I heard truck + taco = subscribe!!

[@skrapz79]

Yes u cannnnn lol belts r easier by far

[@petermakeithappen8336]

Merry Christmas everyone ⛄🎄

[@roansampson2098]

Couldve mounted a longer arm on the servo for a longer swing. Longer swing = bigger angle

[@10thScaleGarage]

True, however- we’re not even close to maxing out the servo. We’re at the limits of the lower A-arm. A longer servo horn would only decrease the amount of rotation the servo would need to travel to go from lock to lock. It WOULD make the steering faster, which wouldn’t be a bad thing.

[@OMGRC]

I tried this same setup with that G2 gyro and failed also. I like the white rims on it 👍

[@ewwwick9818]

Yeah racing sells a 2wd conversion kit for a tt01/02 might work since they look similar. But it can be done with some tuning.

[@foxhoundra6444]

I have this done on my sg1603 haha it is similar results haha but when I changed the goal to racing on asphalt instead of drifting on drift tires, and moved the battery behind the rear diff it seems to go pretty good. The rear tires just need more traction now

[@10thScaleGarage]

Nice work!

[@TePasasALV]

How did you remove the drive shafts up front on the 1603.

[@r.i.restorations5519]

We’re did u get the body????

[@gregorholmes1837]

So not gona show the difference? New title: How to take the front axles out of a car.

[@10thScaleGarage]

I have multiple videos on drifting a fazer MK2 they’re linked in this video. I think the video title is about as accurate as it gets. I appreciate the input though.

[@RcTimes2055]

I did a conversion on a hsp touring car rear diff locked removed center drive shaft front diff all out and modify steering parts and geometry for extra angle... on the end 0 money was spent... is good opcion if u dont want to buy a drift spec car 😁👍

[@lax2dia101]

AWD Drift cars can’t be ran in a drift track.Most Rc drift clubs are strictly RWD.I did the same to an old school Kyosho..printed some parts to give it more angle..far from a dedicated drifter but still fun.

[@tstricklin4808]

# bad ideas matter 😅✌️

[@RCWithAaron]

Dewalt Gyroscopic Screw Driver with the adjustable clutch. Best tool investment you will ever make! You can thank me next time you come down to Street Break and break Joes Drift car again 😂

[@10thScaleGarage]

No was was that my fault!

[@RCWithAaron]

@@10thScaleGarage I think it was an inside job and you guys were setup!

[@Texasbroski512]

Is using an independent gyro vs a spektrum avc receiver better? Or is it just another way of getting stability control

[@danification6587]

link on where to buy this exact model I am interested

[@10thScaleGarage]

omgrc.com/products/1-10-4wd-rtr-2021-toyota-tundra-wide-body-inferno

[@liamcosgrave5410]

I actually mad a TT02-s on to a reasonably decent draft car. More for a project put of boredom than anything else. Had to make some parts from scratch but it's good fun !

[@chronoace1970]

Is that tundra body for sale? I love it!

[@10thScaleGarage]

Not as of now. I bet you can find it on eBay though.

[@Bigbill01speedhunter]

yes you can...

[@Bl4keBelladonna]

there is conversion kits tho , like for the TT02 tamiya for example :D

[@omega_rc]

That’s a BAAAD looking rc brotha oh my days 🤙🤙🤙

[@TGO1688]

Gyro

[@modzilla74]

With out watching I'm gonna guess steering angle and rearward weight would be the biggest issues.

[@mattyofpv]

Will the body fit the rmx I was thinking of doing a drift truck

[@10thScaleGarage]

Nope. The chassis/ wheelbase is longer.

[@mattyofpv]

So it would look funny

[@rcshowoff5427]

Hey guys!! I did this mod to my Fast and Furious Supra a while back. It works just OK I guess. It's is a cheap HSP chassis. I did put in a Traxxas TSM too and it's still a pain to drift. Have a Merry Christmas guys!!!!

[@LukazRC]

HSP ftw 💪

[@bobbylefebvre6298]

Good evening happy holidays enjoy the weekend great channel

[@ravingcrab8405]

Damn, I missed the word "RC" when I read the video name and thought someone actually made drifting Ford F-150 🌚

[@10thScaleGarage]

Mistakes were made! I was at a drift event in October where there was a C-10 out there getting sideways. It was awesome to watch.

[@RCDriftFl]

Yes it is possible I have done it plenty of times with the sakurad4 chassis and also grk global all you need are some good knuckles and understanding of steering geometry….. got vids on the RcDriftFl channel with the d4

[@tylerseabook9423]

This is far from a sakura design. The sakura is dual purpose. Because you did it with a Sakura doesn’t make it possible with this setup

[@ryurc3033]

I've always known that the drift stuff is specific. The real key is getting all the rotating mass out from behind the front wheels. And get the grease out of the bearings, and add drop or two of oil. I used a nearly 10 year old team associated tc6(mostly because it's carbon/aluminum and has the belt drive rear. the motor mounted high in the rear, and I just built my own front suspension out of crawler bits to get angle. The gyro helps, but rear wheel drive drifting is just a different game

[@ryurc3033]

The longer wheelbase definitely doesn't help

[@RickyD1968]

Looks sooooo much better with black wheels !!!!!!!!!

[@intense_rcdevon7532]

This is so dope 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@10thScaleGarage]

Thank you!!!

[@CarlBalzer]

I loveeeeeee drifting❤️❤️

[@10thScaleGarage]

I love driving with you.

[@rm4213]

Great video definitely going with 2wd

[@rowndo]

That Tundra looks nice. You should have kept the drive shaft with the front open diff. Would have been way smoother. Etherway, nice experiment.

[@10thScaleGarage]

Next time!

[@tylerseabook9423]

That would totally defeat the purpose of the video

[@bonesjohn5477]

This is the first of your videos i have watched and it was great fun

[@10thScaleGarage]

Welcome aboard!

[@bobbylefebvre6298]

Really nice truck cool colors

[@rcloner1895]

I love seeing all the drift content! I know y’all in Ohio! Come to my local drift track in Mentor. It’s in Hobbytown, the tracks name is Lunar Drift! We throwing an event in the 22nd for lunar new year. Come check it out and get some slides on!

[@rcloner1895]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qn-7loCah9Bjhqs decent vid of the track

[@10thScaleGarage]

Dang. That’s only 3 hours away!

[@rcloner1895]

@@10thScaleGarage hey!!!!! We would love to see you guys come up! We’ll get that Rmx 2.0 dialed for ya.

[@OldeSchoolRcUk]

Gyro looks like it’s back to front pull the rear wheels to you and the gyro should move to the rear.

[@tylerseabook9423]

Wut 😂😂🤦‍♂️

[@OldeSchoolRcUk]

@@tylerseabook9423 if it’s drift setup have the car sideways to you and slide the back end towards you the gyro should move the steering to turn towards you. Drag and race gyros work the opposite. Drift gyros keep it sideways race gyros keep it straight so therefore are set uk opposite

[@tylerseabook9423]

@@OldeSchoolRcUk that’s 100% wrong. Yes the gyro in a drift setup keeps the car sideways but drag works the exact same way. If it was backwards it would be undrivable

[@tylerseabook9423]

@@OldeSchoolRcUk that’s the silliest thing I’ve read all day

[@tylerseabook9423]

@@OldeSchoolRcUk that’s 100% false

[@bustedaw11]

Hey bro's, tt02 or fazer? Kyosho cost a good bit more but I need a cheap ass car i can destroy and not feel bad (speed runs). Thanks for the content, great as always!

[@bustedaw11]

Oh BTW, Shorter servo horn to get more throw

[@10thScaleGarage]

Fazer is built better, but TT-02s are so much fun to build.

[@bustedaw11]

@@10thScaleGarage i havnt seen anyone running a fazer on mod 1 and doing any serious stuff yet. Price is a big thing cause the tt02 are legit a steal but I was just curious because I've never seen the fazer in person to judge it.

[@Wreckedekcoupe]

Put the touring tires on front with widen hexes!

[@10thScaleGarage]

I feel like that would only make the problem worse.

[@bobbylefebvre6298]

Really nice cars

[@bobbylefebvre6298]

Really nice set up

[@willievonwaltzleben4345]

One sick pick up

[@occrc3333]

Do you think if you turned the motor down to like 75%, it would help it from over steering ?

[@10thScaleGarage]

Nope. It does at even under half throttle.

[@occrc3333]

Dang ok what about wheel spacers in the back. Widen the track width. Maybe?

[@bobbylefebvre6298]

Nice upgrades

[@Jack-ce8we]

Guys, try it with the traxxas fiesta I see back there. I converted a stock one by removing frond diff, driveshafts, and center driveshaft. Only thing I added was a TSM receiver to get gyro and Traxxas link tuning and a diff spool meant for a 4tec that was only like $7. For right around 300 bucks you can have a rwd drift rally car. Does it replace the rmx? No but its alot more fun than the fazer in the video and can actually link up corners on stock wheels and tires.

[@10thScaleGarage]

Nice! That fiesta rally has been broken for like 2 years. Haha. It strips gears like crazy.

[@Jack-ce8we]

Spur gears or diff gears? Ive got one just for burnouts and am using erevo slipper and stockish diff. Running castle 1515

[@Jack-ce8we]

Spur gears or diff gears? Ive got one just for burnouts and am using erevo slipper and stockish diff. Running castle 1515

[@Jack-ce8we]

Spur gears or diff gears? Ive got one just for burnouts and am using erevo slipper and stockish diff. Running castle 1515

[@bobbylefebvre6298]

Looks insane

[@gbresaleking]

The tundra body is dope!

[@10thScaleGarage]

Right? I love it.

[@angrymelon]

Well at least it looks rad.

[@10thScaleGarage]

Haha. Yup! She’s a looker for sure.

[@wordreet]

Thing is, I was drifting RC race cars before it was even a thing. I never really got into carpet racing, but loved racing on tarmac or concrete, lino or even on polished wood in one particular village hall. You can drift nicely on polished wood with a full grip setup! On concrete too if it's a bit dusty.

[@rc-trassa]

Cool 👍😎

[@10thScaleGarage]

Glad you dig it!

[@joekillthebeat]

My yokomo yd4mr has crazy angle on the wheels even with awd. I know its not the cheapest but its 4 sure easy to convert.

[@demofilm]

The kyosho dog bones are self removing if you forget to set the dual rate .