11 Key Moments from ‘Doomsday Cult’ Mom Lori Vallow Daybell’s Triple Murder Trial - Week Two

Lori Vallow Daybell’s triple murder trial continued this week with shocking testimony from former friends of the “Doomsday cult” mom, her son Colby Ryan, law enforcement, and more. Daybell stands accused of murdering her two children, J.J. Vallow and Tylee Ryan, along with conspiracy to murder “prophet” Chad Daybell’s late wife, Tammy Daybell. The Law&Crime Network’s Jesse Weber breaks down eleven key moments from the trial this week.
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[@2cents577]

I’m very disappointed that the judge didn’t allow cameras in the courtroom. Half of understanding how crazy she is; is watching her.

[@Pankleb1313]

She don’t need a cult following

[@WildChildMetalMom]

She's not crazy, she's completely evil. There's a big difference.

[@tillitsdone]

Good call by the judge.

[@brielliott04]

My heart just broke for Colby when he spoke to Lori and said something like, “I would have taken them both in! I would have welcomed them into my house in a second!” The tragic reality of what could have been done instead of these twisted murders is haunting…so many loving family members would have taken care of these children including JJ’s own father when he was still alive!! It’s all just so evil and backwards.

[@Sheskis]

I love how Colby calls CD Peter Griffin Haha!

[@carlettelynch7859]

She didn't teach him about zombies cuz she hadn't met Chad right? She was also keeping things secret.

[@ND-or5so]

Thank you man

[@Fluer-de-Lis]

Let’s not forget Tylees dad… his death might be under questionable circumstances

[@katyf7090]

I’ve been saying that for years. I don’t know why it’s not really spoke of by the media.

[@pommiebears]

I would absolutely consider his death to be questionable. I still question Alex’ death. It’s just all too convenient for him to have died when he was no longer useful, but actually a risk to them.

[@pommiebears]

@@katyf7090 I believe he was cremated. So, they can’t exhume him and do another autopsy. If they did kill him….we’ll never know. Probably did, let’s face it.

[@katyf7090]

@@pommiebears I bet that you are right. I’m surprised Chad didn’t cremate poor Tammy.

[@juliebealflygirl]

It was proven that Tyler’s father molested her, and it was said by other family members that he molested her I think that’s why the media doesn’t talk about him or anybody else

[@b_em0]

*I hope the Jury notices ALL the pointless lies that Lori has told! That’s a major red flag! Why lie if you have “done nothing wrong”, right?* 🤨

[@georgiaamanatides4207]

And yet Casey Anthony walked free after all her lies.

[@jullianbashir18]

Also she seems to sound noble to what had happened yet cannot and will not say what her noble version was. Sufficient to say she is very conscious of what happened before and after the murders , and self aware of her image

[@greenalien3857]

Mentally ill people don't hide their crimes because they don't know what they did was wrong. Buy sane people do know what's wrong or right and they hide things or lie or make up tales when they are hiding or lying.

[@bugsea54]

Her religion is her excuse, it fits so well with her wanting to murder people, which started way before chad

[@bugsea54]

She's a pathological liar, which is symptoms of a pyschpath

[@greenman6141]

It is very very odd that both Colby and Tylee as children suffered from such depression and low self esteem. That, to me, is a great big red flag about how they were being treated, at home, by their main parent.

[@SMtWalkerS]

Excellent point. Lori did not suddenly become selfish, arrogant, and full of self-obsessed notions. Being raised by such a person must make one feel so insecure.

[@greenman6141]

@@SMtWalkerS Yes, very arrogant, very self absorbed, and very judging of others.. including the trait of suddenly demonizing others. In her case, eventually, literally demonizing others. This is usually a trait of people with borderline personality disorder. But I don't believe they have a monopoly on it. The children must have been constantly uncertain about their own worth.

[@shieh.4743]

​@@greenman6141Psychopathy fits her profile also.

[@lynnkayee1015]

The way Lori laughed at Colby during that call was wild. Telling him he has no right to judge. She lied to him saying that his siblings were fine. He finds out they were found in her lovers backyard and confronts her and she laughs at him and says he has no right to judge. If ANYONE had a right, it was Colby. She took so much from him.

[@tamarikimani5701]

Chilling😢

[@GeneGrey337]

Yea, she basically took everything. And in a way, he is one of the victims. Just because he didn't die, doesn't mean she wouldn't have tried to make him past tense. She never thought about what he would think of her actions. I wouldn't be surprised if she neglected him growing up. She's so self absorbed. I hope he heals alright. No one deserves this.😢 Edit: Just saying. Not trying to argue with anyone.

[@LawNerdAmber]

we'll all be laughing at her when she sentenced to life. It's only fair

[@HiroForever]

Oh. Well they weren’t ‘Just’ ‘Found in her lover’s backyard…’ The children were dismembered. Horrifically.

[@sjohnson65456]

Witch's cackle I call it. Creepy as F.

[@Jismysis]

She is a real piece of work and the cops dropped the ball soooo many times it’s disturbing

[@notsomj6218]

"First of all, if you are shorter you are a demon? I gotta say I'm a bit insulted by that" lmao 🤣

[@shelbyindianajones3226]

just convict this witch already

[@frostfree7]

Doesn't look like it's gonna be too hard

[@shelbyindianajones3226]

yeah right... sounds like Alex died same way as Lori's 3rd husband Joe Ryan

[@nimmesisbp2395]

😮😳… omgggg you’re RIGHT! 🫢

[@Foreveraltered-wv3by]

Alex did not die if natural causes

[@makt122]

How was it?

[@freeamerican1996]

Eye drops in drinks.

[@jfraserfisher]

I just pray this jury doesn’t make her the new Casey Anthony, Charles, Tammy, Tylee and JJ deserve and need justice

[@audreyricci6383]

If Lori escapes justice in this world, she will not escape it in the next one. Judge Jesus will be waiting for her.

[@greenalien3857]

​@@audreyricci6383 nope

[@Willie-po1lf]

Don’t worry that won’t happen! If you actually follow the case you will know the “overwhelming” evidence that she and chad participated in the 3 murders plus the witness testimony not too mention the circumstantial evidence points out to them being the murderers with great motive. This case is done. The only thing we the public have to withstand is hearing all the New details leading to the murders that we couldn’t fugue it out on the Netflix documentary. Is just a matter of time until she gets find guilty then chad. It’s Not gonna be another Casey Anthony case mark my words, just follow the trial closely and you’ll come to that realization too

[@nimmesisbp2395]

@@audreyricci6383 Amen! Thas One that NONE of us will be escaping.

[@AnnieBooker]

You can hear how shocked Colby still is. Poor bloke. My heart breaks for him

[@brielliott04]

Absolutely! He was so raw and devastated.

[@AngelaTheCrazyDogMom]

It's absolutely heartbreaking. I feel so bad for him. Yes he's still alive but I'm sure he's got some survivors guilt and wishes he could've helped JJ and Tylee. 😢

[@AnnieBooker]

I guess Alex was right when he told Zulema I think I’m going to be the fall guy. I don’t think Alex was an innocent by any means but I do think he was used by Chad and Lori.

[@georgiaamanatides4207]

Zulema....the same woman who didn't tell her son, who lived with her, she was married to Alex. On the 911 call her son identifies Alex as his mother's friend. Zulema is just another grifter.

[@sara31773]

Yeah she was all in hook, line and sinker.

[@SMtWalkerS]

Yes, and believing all the weird stuff Lori and Daybell were shoveling? Something wrong with that picture, for sure.

[@IndigoStarrAz]

I think her third husband died of a heart attack a couple of years before. They need to exhume and retest for poison, she's a serial.

[@cherrymetha3185]

And who knows how many people she’s killed over the years apart from the people we know about . It may seem far fetched only because it’s a woman. If she were a man , it may seem more likely that there were more victims .

[@alibughangampon7640]

They cant exhume him as he was cremated.

[@IndigoStarrAz]

@@alibughangampon7640 HaHa. a smart serial at that.

[@HLidaze]

I live and grew up in Utah. Ive been baptized in the LDS faith and left and was punished for it by my family and community when I was 23. Its a crazy cult. The fact these guys added even more CRAZY to it is impressive.

[@cyndijohnson5473]

The Mormon church is not a cult. But that doesn’t mean your family was a good one. Don’t blame the Church for the sins of your father

[@HLidaze]

​​@@cyndijohnson5473Found the mormon. Dont get your special panties in a wad. 100% cult.

[@mrsdigz3718]

​@@cyndijohnson5473 that's exactly what a person in a cult would say.

[@HLidaze]

@@mrsdigz3718 Seriously. I am born and raised in Utah. It is a cult. Its not normal to be 20 years old, married, with 2 kids. Seriously. And all the prophets who made the chuch are pedophiles. Its so easy to google. 100% cult that they pay to be brainwashed in.

[@bigalbiggs]

Cult, full stop

[@b_em0]

*I KEEP SAYING THAT I HOPE LORI TAKES THE STAND!* Her lawyer is more than likely going to advise her not to b/c the woman is freaking crazy and will only make the case look even worse against herself..

[@sonyagraske376]

I hope she is encouraged by her defense to take the stand... 😂

[@canuckproducer8446]

@@sonyagraske376 Talk about putting a nail in her own coffin. That lady's elevator doesn't go all the way to the top.

[@sara31773]

Would be interesting but I don’t see that happening. Not as long as she continues to act like the victim and take no responsibility.

[@riverd537]

oooohhh..i WISH SHE WOULD...it wld be better than Alex Murdaugh..and he was top notch prime time entertainment..psychos..

[@sonyagraske376]

@@riverd537 it would be riveting, to say the least.

[@laurajanesherman9126]

Holy crap, these people are absolutely evil.

[@annanderson7]

I have always had my suspicion about the death of Alex🤔

[@lauriedefelice8132]

It’s convenient

[@JaneJ993]

What a body count. Stay away from Lori

[@AnnieBooker]

I’m glad that neither Tammy nor Charles were forgotten in all of this. Lori saying JJ would have a short life really is just more evidence against her. I have a grandchild also on the spectrum and their lives are not naturally shortened

[@evonne315]

Kids on the spectrum are extra gifted. Makes me sick to think she wasted his and his sisters life.

[@stormchasingirl1133]

Instead of mom he needs to call her “egg donor”

[@nikkiej.5875]

The way Lori laughs when Colby confronts her about what happened to his siblings is really disgusting. She doesn't think she did anything wrong and what she did is justified. She murdered her own children.

[@rs3007]

And laughs like an evil witch too.

[@leahr5602]

She is the only "demon" I see!

[@christianward-nisbet8833]

As a Mom myself, it made me sick to my stomach and want to hug Colby.

[@heartsmyfaceforever8140]

She knows she did something wrong or she’d explain to him how he is wrong. She has no answers for him.

[@nikkiej.5875]

@@rs3007 Yes, she is the one who is a demon and turned dark.

[@annanderson7]

When she was telling Colby that he didn't know, he wasn't there. Wouldn't that imply that she was there? Js. 🤔

[@sharronmeszaros563]

Good point!

[@wideawake8190]

Removing the death penalty is a crime in itself.

[@heatnicoleher]

This trial is already gonna cost enough.

[@RealLifeMassMultiplayerRPG]

bring back torture imagine a slaguhterhouse worker that killed 500 000 head in his life

[@Kelloggsmokesalot]

Agreed! I'm in Idaho too and they have reinstated the Firing Squad. Bryan Kohberger will have same issue in June when his case goes to trial.

[@FannyVonFluff]

And allow her to live out her martyrdom fantasy?

[@wideawake8190]

@@FannyVonFluff who cares? dead is dead and she'd soon be forgotten.

[@robotaholic]

How dare her say JJ would have a short life. Who does she think she is. When JJ's only protector was murdered by Cox, he was left vulnerable with only his MOTHER to protect him and was dead 2 months later. Mother / Son love is about the strongest bond there can possibly be. At all - then to find she killed JJ just shocks me.

[@anonymoususer1397]

She wasn’t his real mother, but still...

[@odettegordonyo]

She killed them both, she raised JJ since a baby, she is mother. She went to the dark side. 😢

[@JMJ-33]

Was she even Tylee mom??

[@Willie-po1lf]

Evil Lori was the “step” mother to JJ, Charles was JJ’s real biological father. It is why this upsets me to a different level. She’s the only Zombie in this tragic case and I know that evil monster will die in prison

[@Willie-po1lf]

@@JMJ-33 yes Evil Lori was the actual mother of Tylee which she killed, chopped her body and burned her

[@leahr5602]

If ANYONE AT ALL would have listened to Charles Vallow or Brandon B. the kids and Tammy might have lived!!!!!!

[@Kitty.57]

Chad killed Tammie and we all know this.His children need to respect their mom and cutt all ties with Chad .

[@sharronmeszaros563]

Unless he did not have the guts to do it. What if Alex came over one night and did it for him. It will be interesting to hear what else is going to come out. Example where all did Alex’s phone ping? If Alex missed her when he shot at her . He knew where they lived. Maybe Chad let him in one night and Alex is the one who killed her……..hmmmm

[@audreyricci6383]

​@@sharronmeszaros563 Look at the empty chair at the defence table. The convenient scapegoat.

[@StellaFl]

@@sharronmeszaros563 Also they have submitted in evidence digital forensics from her Fitbit, watch maybe? That should yield some interesting info about her time of death and more. There was a case here in Greece which was solved through smartphone data.

[@evananthony4506]

Whoever at the courthouse decided the voice recorder be put right next to someone typing deserves to be fired. I can hear the typing louder than the recordings.

[@maraq.1205]

That jailhouse call with Colby, Lori already admitted that she knows her kids are dead. "You weren't there." And "One day soon you will understand".

[@desertsunset8025]

It was heartbreaking 💔

[@sashachitownvillegas6850]

right then when he says blasphemy she laughed, she is so evil that really gave me the creeps. Her and Chad are extremely scary ppl

[@JERSEYTOMATO]

Understood - she is a murderer -

[@lunatic5162]

Isn't her words about some like "We have aliens in people "and stuff? She's insane

[@ramblinrose960]

Too bad he wasn't there. He may have been able to rescue them from their evil grasp. He understands TODAY that she and her crazy cultists are deranged monsters!

[@lindavirgilio4225]

I find it interesting that Chad’s adult children were not dark.

[@sharronmeszaros563]

Maybe Chad was protecting his kids. Unlike Lori who was ready to be done with hers.

[@StellaFl]

There was no money to be made from their deaths and also they were not in their way.

[@rosaspanjol673]

The death of Alex Cox is kind of fishy 🤔

[@sara31773]

Their need for him was done and he knew too much so he had to go. They didn’t need him anymore.

[@HenryPhD]

I'm sorry but religion justifies nothing.

[@rach8241]

She kept saying her children were safe. In her mind they were because they were no longer Zombies and with Jesus . That's how self deluded I think she is. She knew they were dead in my opinion.

[@sharronmeszaros563]

I don’t think she really believed all of that zombie baloney! I think she and Chad were making it up as they went and the zombie story was their way to ease their guilt.

[@Bats4lawyer]

Lori is definitely delusional I don’t understand how her friend wasn’t concerned about the ‘demons possessing my husband’ thing.

[@VioletJoy]

Exactly. So many don't believe she is crazy, but it seems pretty clear that she did truly believe all of that garbage. It's not uncommon.

[@VioletJoy]

​@@Bats4lawyer Right?? So many around her just went along with it like it wasn't totally insane.

[@MNcoquicoqui]

BINGO 🎯 💯

[@barbaralonero4306]

Did the police ever do a DNA or blood search on the end of the bat to see if Alex did get hit with that bat

[@StellaFl]

We haven't learned about Alex's DNA, the only thing that came out about the bat was that it was inconclusive for Charles' prints or DNA, not sure which

[@Athena124]

I want there to be justice for Charles also. I don't understand why that trial didn't happen first, since he was the first to die.

[@meganbotterill]

I thinkTylee must have deduced the perplexity and danger of her and her brother's situation but stayed and kept mum to protect him for as long as she could. Cause these strange things were clearly said and done infront of her. Also how many people did they say these bizarre things to that didn't alert anyone or try to document it. Thinking a lot of people could have said something and things would have turned out differently.

[@kristisolo7730]

This woman is a danger to society 😮😮 she needs to be found guilty n thrown to the dogs crazy RIP sweat kids solo sorry 😢😢😢

[@foxibot]

I appreciate y’all breaking down the major points and events during the trial. It helps a lot.

[@JaneJ993]

She gaslight " Colby all thru that call

[@trick351]

9:58 Imagine how different things would have worked out had they grilled Alex & Lori after Charles’s death

[@cherrymetha3185]

Charles had gone to the police to report Lori but the police weren’t interested in what Charles had to say . If the police had done their job , the children would still be alive .

[@audreyricci6383]

​@@cherrymetha3185 Charles' warning about Lori went unheeded. He was ignored until it was too late.

[@StellaFl]

@@cherrymetha3185 Worse than that is that they never investigated his murder after the fact. The case was closed as self defense despite the hard evidence and more present. They only reopened it after the kids were found.

[@cherrymetha3185]

@@StellaFl That’s disgusting ! It’s also very odd. It makes me think that this religious cult is way deeper than being reported about.

[@cherrymetha3185]

@@audreyricci6383 Maybe I’m wrong but I’m thinking ‘Cover up’ .

[@sharronmeszaros563]

I feel so bad for Colby!! 🙏🙏🙏for Colby ❤️❤️

[@Silverfoxy50]

Im a true crime junkie but this crazy case really takes the cake

[@kittypoo]

Chads kids were fine but Lori’s kids had to die. I’m confident she will be found guilt. Even her own flesh and blood first born son said she was a murderous mother.

[@sara31773]

Wild right? But the adult kids weren’t in the way. JJ and Tylee were still essentially dependent on their parents. They were in the way so they had to go.

[@arosem7142]

His children apparently believe all the BS their dad spills… they still don’t think he had anything to do with any of it!! Their mother didn’t die of natural causes and there were 2 kids buried in his yard!! How do they not think these 2 are evil!! 🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

[@Mrswinterbish]

I hope they have cameras pointed directly at her in Arizona for trial

[@desertsunset8025]

No cameras , only video . Not sure if they will show any coverage after trial is over .

[@jazamaraz8029]

I agree. Cameras in the court televising these trials would bring more sunshine to these cases. Sunshine is the best disinfectant.

[@audreyricci6383]

​@@jazamaraz8029 Impossible when you are dealing with The LDS Mormon Church. Especially in Eastern Idaho and Utah as well as parts of other Western States.

[@ladyvanilla3]

Casey anthony is a trauma case to us all.

[@KirstenMarie_MS3]

Ah, yes... the demon Ned Snyder. Worse than every demon in the Lesser Key of Solomon combined. You can identify him by his signature pocket protector and thick rimmed glasses. In all seriousness, though, lock her up so everyone affected can grieve and begin the long, difficult process of picking up the pieces.

[@frostfree7]

So Ned Snyder is actually a character? Is that part of LDS?

[@davidschneide5422]

I like how her lies help erode reasonable doubt.

[@916familyfun2]

She had a neighborhood pool party after Charles died I hope the jury hears about that

[@theyaya2502]

Melanie was asked to lie and did lie, that JJ was with her!!

[@StellaFl]

She also lied on the stand, either directly or by omission. Despicable woman....

[@HauntedVirgo]

I just feel so terrible for the children. 💔 It’s just so, SO sad. I hope they didn’t suffer. Have they released cause of death, & are they going to if not? There are SO many unanswered questions.

[@SearchingfortheTruth77]

Jj was suffocated with a trash bag and Tylee was strangled, bludgeoned, and then dismembered. They also ate parts of Tylee. These poor babies had terrible deaths.

[@bethnorrod5942]

I haven't heard anywhere that they ate parts of Tylee. There is no cause of death for Tylee because so little of her remains were found and they were burned. JJ was suffocated,as was Tammy Daybell.

[@bethnorrod5942]

​​@@SearchingfortheTruth77 you are thinking of another case or something. There's no cause of death for Tylee because so little of her remains were found and they were burned. No where has it ever been said or assumed that they consumed parts of her. JJ was suffocated and found in garbage bags,but his face and arms were bound in tape and it's assumed the tape is the matter of asphyxiation.

[@jackie5522]

Why would you spread that rumor that she was eaten. You’re horrible that’s baloney

[@desertsunset8025]

​@@SearchingfortheTruth77 source ? I never heard anywhere they ate her ? Not in trial .

[@kathybradbury]

She was partying at the poolside in the afternoon after her brother attacked and killed her husband. There are pictures! She’s laying it on thick with the fake tears. I hope the jury gets enough information to see the truth.

[@FearIsaLiar]

She thought she was about to get 1 million dollars so she was totally stoked

[@_celeste_]

​@@sjohnson65456 It's true, she had a pool party after killing Charles.

[@cail171]

I haven't heard that. Pure evil. Wow.. I too hope the jury gets to hear that as well

[@kathybradbury]

@@FearIsaLiar yup, this woman is all about greed power and control. machiavellian behavior in the extreme.

[@tarajh]

Pictures where? No pictures of the alleged pool party were released in the FIOA document dump.

[@sandibaker5298]

It’s truly hard to believe how that monster can sit there smiling and snickering while she’s on trial for murdering her children. I don’t believe she even has a heart.😡💔😡💔

[@ACB2K]

Zulema is such a witch, just as Lori. she well know that Alex would have die, its possible she has a hand in it.

[@kcjd10]

I agree. I don't think she's as innocent as she tries to sound, and I don't think she's being honest about everything.

[@cail171]

Agreed. Timing is odd. I don't see her or Melanie not having anything to do with that

[@sjohnson65456]

Didn't her and Melanie Gibb both get immunity too? I keep seeing that in comments, but haven't checked myself, and if true I'm not hearing it being reported on.

[@desertsunset8025]

Melanie Gibbs also .

[@desertsunset8025]

​@@sjohnson65456 I heard the same .

[@michellea1635]

I'm thinking maybe they should have a second autopsy on Alex if he even had one seems to coincidental his timing of death . I've been listening to this case I think her and Chad planned it all. I pray the jury sees what I see

[@tareymixon4720]

I believe he was cremated

[@Monica_Escobar]

He was purposely cremated for this exact reason.. so they could not identify his cause of death.

[@audreyricci6383]

​@@tareymixon4720 So no autopsy. How can you autopsy ashes?

[@michellea1635]

@@tareymixon4720 somehow that don't surprise me . Sad though cause no one will ever know unless they tell on themselves

[@StellaFl]

@@audreyricci6383 Τhere was an autopsy and you can find the report online. At the time, there were already suspicions about him so it was pretty detailed.

[@barbaradyson6951]

Thank god post mortems are compulsory in the UK.

[@sunnynights68]

You would think at some point Lori would have “sobered up” and realized what she had done. Apparently she’s still drinking the koolaid

[@StellaJean1000]

I think it's because she's only in jail right now, which is a lot nicer than prison will be.

[@brendasmith5204]

Curious didn’t the EMS and coroner see any red marks or bruising around Tammy’s neck? That really has me puzzled.

[@Darkstar-se6wc]

Pillows don’t cause red marks or bruising around the neck.

[@platingqueen]

It’s concerning that Tammy’s death was originally classified as natural causes but in reality it was asphyxiation… I don’t understand how that happens

[@jfraserfisher]

Chad had told them she was sick with a cough and she appeared to have just passed away in her sleep, no signs of trauma, a struggle ect and no one raised concerns that it was suspicious like Charles had before he died. Then Chad and their adult children refused an autopsy been done so no one looked further. There must be so many deaths that are never checked any further like Tammy’s, it’s scary to think how many may not be natural causes. Same as Alex was cremated and not investigated further, I bet there was something in his system that caused those blood clots.

[@desertsunset8025]

Strange . I'm glad she wasn't cremated like Alex And her husband before Charles.

[@snowgurl21]

Agreed!!! She was young & healthy how could the M.E. not accept the case.

[@Valeria-dd3un]

Also that Charles death was not investigated further immediately is very frustrating because the story they told didn't make sense and not all of them told the same story which shoud have made the police suspicious. I do not wanna know how many homicide aren't further investigated and just closed as natural deaths or accidents. If Alex would have been locked up after Charles death, maybe they would have stopped..

[@melaniea4901]

@@Valeria-dd3un if the police would have listened to Charles when he expressed concern about her mental health and his kid’s safety they’d all still be alive and she’d be in a mental institution! I believe she manipulated everyone! Police, Chad, Alex…everyone! She’s evil!

[@jadepaulsen8456]

What is up with that 6 yr old hairstyle. Smh

[@mamamayhem7125]

I'm not sure how the jury wouldn't find her guilty, but we thought that about Casey Anthony, too.

[@ciobalina7445]

I think in this case there are just to many dead people to ignore. The evidence is more consistent here.

[@audreyricci6383]

Both of them will have their day when they face God.

[@VioletJoy]

​@@audreyricci6383 There's no evidence for that, which makes this all the more serious.

[@VioletJoy]

I still can't get over the Casey Anthony case. 😡 Sometimes convictions don't happen when there is only circumstantial evidence. However, there was A LOT of circumstantial evidence in Casey's case, and there is a lot in Lori's case. Lori said a lot, but also knew what not to say. We'll see what happens.

[@ciobalina7445]

@@audreyricci6383 Yeah, that's not certain. They're no proof any of the gods people believe in actually exist. The sad reality is that most probably she won't be punished after death and this life is the best we can do.

[@davidgilmour9447]

Why is "circumstantial evidence" getting a bad rap in this case? It's BETTER than direct all day long. Direct is basically an eyewitness. Most people don't kill in the presence of others and need we say more about the credibility perils associated with that. She's done and going down. Sad Idaho abandoned the death penalty with her. Cases like this are why we have it. Yes she's a nut, who cares? Who was the driving force? Handsome Chad, funny man Alex? No, it's her! Gimme those 3 needles.

[@alannahwatts5778]

Alex Murdaugh was recently convicted on purely circumstantial evidence so maybe there is hope here.

[@GaryDoyle-fd3cf]

I believe lori is very worried by now as so many witnesses have gone against her 😅 I just can't wait till he mother takes the stand and continues to LIE 😮

[@guysebastian9072]

Have you notice that all these women sound like Lori? That soft low calm sensual voice Its so weird

[@Somer-set]

Manipulation tone & voice!

[@sjohnson65456]

Yes Zulema's testimony was especially patience testing. I've never understood a woman having what I call baby voice ever since I was a teenager. Fake AF voice is another name for it. 😂

[@blinkypushbuttons]

Dissociation

[@ermaek2145]

I wish the call of Colby and Lori was subtitled.

[@LariaX]

So Chad's children stand by and support their father 100 percent saying he is innocent and their mother absolutely died of natural causes. Now that we know she was murdered and according to them, their father had nothing to do with it, I will ask them, then which one of you murdered your mother? Or are we now going to hear some grand story how someone must of broke into the house and did it while Chad slept beside her? Come on Daybell's, do tell us.

[@jsmum196]

Had the coroner not misdiagnosed Mrs. Daybell's death the children would still be alive!

[@Mary10538]

I can't believe they hadn't heard of this case. I live in New Mexico, and I have followed it since the beginning. I follow the Gannon and the Orson and Orrin and summer wells case.

[@Chericherry4]

Many people don’t follow crime stories in the news.

[@radl1936]

I can't really either but like other poster said. Some people don't follow true crime. But I would think if you were living in Utah it would be hard to miss

[@JaneJ993]

TY Jesse. Truly appreciated this breakdown of key moments as this was a long week

[@fernandaolivares7926]

Hehehe he wasn't a demon because he was short, he was a demon because he was "shorter" as in shorter than he was before being possesed...Colby's wife is lucky to be alive, she was on the zombie list too.

[@riverd537]

Brandon Boudreaux was also a failed murder attempt..hes lucky as well...

[@fernandaolivares7926]

@@riverd537 Yeap he literally dodged a bullet. And I've always thought Chad told Zulema to kill Alex.

[@gdave53925_]

They need to get that sniffling person away from the microphone, it's so gross.

[@MNcoquicoqui]

That sniffling was Colby. They played that audio while he was on the stand. If you hear just the entirety of him on the stand, you hear him sniffling. It was more pronounced when he heard himself getting his mother to admit she was responsible for the deaths.

[@vinniramineni5992]

“Doomsday cult mum” is so catchy I dunno why 🤣

[@GoldiLocs_Zone]

This makes me wonder if they used or involved Alex and Tylee. then had to make certain that they were not going to witness/talk.

[@cherrymetha3185]

Why would she just kill JJ and not Tylee ? She wanted to be ‘free ‘ and receive money after their deaths. Alex assisted but she committed the murders imo . The cult is just a ruse for her to get her way .

[@audreydaleski1067]

If Chad had a brain, he'd plea deal life without ever the possibility of parole.

[@ACB2K]

@audrey, I'm saying the same thing. I hope he pleads guilty.

[@cinderella5874]

So I saw that Lori got the death penalty off the table, anyone know if Chad got the same ?

[@maxxedtfout]

@@cinderella5874 he did not

[@sharronmeszaros563]

They are so full of themselves I think they think they will get off free!

[@sashachitownvillegas6850]

if he was a decent person he would spare everyone another trial but so far, he's selfish and evil that's all i know about the creep

[@carlaperkins655]

I enjoy your presentations. The background though, not so much

[@sjohnson65456]

Yesss it's a new one. I left a similar comment a couple days ago. It is very jarring to the eye. Terrible background!

[@desertsunset8025]

She says in text to Chad that they got rid of Charles .

[@lindabarrios180]

She is so manipulative, even on the stand, dang!

[@griffin2263]

how about joe ryan his death ..I think he was murdered as well

[@IndigoStarrAz]

"A Demon named Ned Snyder" Is that really the best name Satan could come up with?

[@sebfettel]

She's toast

[@intimacywiththeordinary]

Thank you for putting this together in such a logical and clear way.

[@pozzee2809]

Wish the call was also written up underneath

[@sjohnson65456]

I agree. East Idaho News here on KZbin has the Colby phone call with cleaned up audio + captions. Go to videos on their page and make sure it's on "latest" order.

[@beffis1980]

Isn’t it sad, disturbing and disgusting how people can take religion and twist it into what they want it to be for their own enjoyment to fit their own lives

[@melissat.1449]

And she claims to have seen Jesus and thinks she is a Godess. Yes folks - They walk among us! 😟

[@StellaFl]

And they vote too 😨

[@truthnfreedomseeker]

Not to mention Chad increased his wife's life insurance a few weeks before she was murdered.

[@jeannedeOregon5585]

This was a very good recap. Thank you. I listened to it all, but it’s so much!

[@josephcostanzo4968]

She looks like the joker

[@fionagregory9147]

Her roots are showing too.

[@chrislee1096]

The Mormon church had strange beginnings. Golden plates, never found, and multiple wives.

[@Lei-AICPhD]

Regarding Tammy Daybell. Could the coroner or the ME or even the assistant’s at the MEs office or if she just went to the funeral home could we not have seen those marks on her throat? I truly don’t understand. I thank God she will have her truth told. Tylee and JJ are in Heaven with the real God who Lori not Chad actually know. They’re absolutely safe and Happy. I’m beyond broken for these babies! Kay, Melissa, or even Colby would have taken those babies and been so happy to, why can’t these horrible people just think: Hmm why not just send them away, not actually kill them! They didn’t care about anyone of these ppls safety, so the “Dark” auras wouldn’t bother them to pass them to other ppl.

[@audreyricci6383]

They were the real zombies not the children or the other victims.

[@ACB2K]

Why are you advertising while reporting.

[@john-ht6cc]

This woman should get the death penalty .

[@hayley8715]

May not be popular but she is insane, you don't just do this at her age, cult or not

[@Globelle]

You also have to wonder if Chad diagnosed his kids as he did everybody else. I haven't heard a word about his children

[@Globelle]

Has anyone noticed how very evil she looks in comparison to before? I mean, you can actually see it. I also think it's ironic that there was exactly 666 pictures of her wedding to Chad. This is so sick and depraved.

[@pinklady4703]

There’s no way that LD didn’t know what happened to the kids bc she never reported them missing and she kept lying to people that asked her where the kids were. Lori went and got married to Chad and wasn’t upset about the kids being missing because she knew what happened to them. It’s just too fishy that Alex died at the right time. I just don’t think that it was natural. I don’t understand what Lori saw in Chad and how can people actually be so ignorant that they would go along with this nonsense that they call a religion. Where’s their common sense?

[@audreyricci6383]

When the reporter in Hawaii asked about where the children were she did not answer the question and neither did Chad.

[@KissMahGrits]

Zulema and Melanie are just as culpable