11 Players of D&D You DON'T Want to Play With

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[@DatBoiChucklez]

This hurts. I actually got a headache watching this. Please, all players, never do this. Thank you for your time.

[@yurihageshi8008]

If someone came late, then they would be stuck with point array

[@_thesunflowerfairy_]

I was joining an online DnD game and I misread the time. I thought it was 4 pm but it was 4 am and now I feel really bad. I guess they just went ahead without me.

[@wileyisweird5842]

My palms aren't sweaty. Can I open the pouch already? The spaghetti's ready.

[@NayrAnur]

Genius.

[@dylankleton60]

Because you're knees are weak* ;)

[@Chrischi3TutorialLPs]

I liked this video just for that

[@mathmagician5990]

Eyyyyy

[@AflacMan13]

This part was hilarious. :-P :-D

[@Iamsamcolson]

I wonder what the guy in the hood called his character

[@endangeredidiot7378]

It was probably Steve or something

[@en-1702]

Barry the flame lord

[@justinecourtneysgavel89]

Daisy, probably

[@brianpatrickdaly]

probably kevin.

[@finvodahmindovahkiin1875]

Well it was obviously *WHYDTUIKJAFGH second son of IOIUAWDHKJAWDAJWD*

[@lockwoan01]

If you ever do a "List of Player Types to Play With" make sure to include the Following: The Loaner: This guy has a Bag of Holding (or a Crown Royal bag), which has enough sets of dice to equip all of the players, just in case someone forgot theirs or doesn't own any. That being said, they are considerate enough to just bring out 4 sets for themselves, unless they need to borrow a 5th dice of some type (although they might ask for a quick loan from someone already using another one of their sets). Possible variant - Quick Loaner, for when someone already has a set, but needs extra dice of a certain type so that they don't need to try to remember all of the previous numbers when making a roll. The Librarian: This guy has all of the relevant books for the game needed to play it, and in the physical form as well, or they can quickly access the electronic information needed for the situation. Got a new guy trying to build their character, the Librarian will loan them the book, so that they can get ideas in creating their character. Helpful DM/Veteran Player: When there's a new guy in the group, the last thing you want is them dragging the rest of the game down. These guys give him/her advice on how to play their character to their full potential. Random Character Maker: This guy has at least 3-5 character sheets pre-made, with relevant information listed, all different characters. However, they don't use them themselves, except in the cases where their guy gets killed off or a new campaign is starting. Instead, when a new guy comes in, and has no clue what to do, the RCM shows them the pre-filled character sheets (except name/exact alignment) and allows the new guy pick a character they like. Secondary DM: In a situation where the main DM has creativity block, or is out due to sickness/injury, and can't DM for several weeks, this guy has their own campaign ready to go. Granted, it might be a simpler storyline compared to the Main one, but it buys the main DM time needed to think things out/recover.

[@hackermanack3393]

The worst players are the ones who don't even role play

[@theamishgoblin695]

Some people just aren't comfortable doing it.

[@Danjanon]

@@theamishgoblin695 then why play a role playing game?

[@patricksikhrangkur8814]

@@Danjanon My coworker has been playing D&D much longer than I have, and from what I hear his group played largely as a means of exploring mechanics and engaging with difficult combat scenarios.

[@InfernosReaper]

@@patricksikhrangkur8814 Eh, at least be characters, even if they're just walking tropes attached to a set of mechanics. It's better than "I do this because mechanix"

[@x.ethereal]

i am the only person in my group who roleplays, like, no one gives a shit about character development, just how to abuse the game mechanics to make your character as op as possible.

[@tristankendrick2582]

* points at sword that is very clearly not a katana * "Katahna!". It somehow makes it better. I love it.

[@CenerothXaris]

I will never in my life regret playing Laurel the wizard with 8 Intelligence and 18 strength. When it takes you 3 rounds to do a non instant cast and he loses focus every time so the enemy stands before you and you hit them unconscious no problem.

[@aquawoelfly]

1 minite in and we already have a guy thinking pokemon red is going to connect him to a cell phone network..... or maybe he has imaginary friends named red blue green prif oak etc...

[@matmarts]

That is my direct line to professor Oak. It's a bit spotty at times though.....

[@theblazingcrusader6322]

@@matmarts I also need it, I'm a grown man oak! I don't need you to tell me were I can and can't ride a bike!

[@Fuzzywuzzy1997]

I feel like once you manage to increase the sound quality, and refine the acting and such you guys have some dope potential for funny/dumb/entertaining skits. I'm excited to see more from y'all

[@spookyspeks1259]

I once had an asshole DM who guilt tripped me over the phone for not wanting to go to a session because I had an anxiety attack and I wasn’t mentally stable enough to go Needless to say the guilt tripping made me a lot worse

[@casual1857]

The disfuntional group? Usually that one can be solved with a chat between the player to sort out problems

[@tangyhyperspace2217]

Or the Dm can lead them into an underground cave with a tarrasque inside

[@naturalone6529]

The face on Rurik Lotter's face when a so-called "peasant" literally turns him into a human torch is priceless.

[@hundred2949]

At the moment I have a player who always trying to get people to change their character to be "better". Buts that not the problem. The problem is he does not know anything. The good in his eyes are any version of soccer or paladin ( as he has only looked at these classes). He also expects 100 platinum at level 1 ones and to be fighting tarasks.

[@squirekev]

After showing this to my young son, I have been inundated with the 'spaghetti's ready' verbal exchange, faithfully parroted to me daily for the last 9 months, so thanks for that. Why did you make the catchphrase so perfect?

[@LichesandLosers]

I'm glad you enjoyed the line! I fear my best work is now behind me.

[@ParaPerception]

My boyfriend is a campaign killer. He is a phenomenal DM, but uses all of his infinite knowledge to accidentally create characters who are BROKEN AF. He told me a story once where he built a character that politically manipulated everyone in his party, built a secret army of undead and took over the planet, killed the player characters, and ascended to godhood. He broke the game so badly with his strategy that he laid on the DM that the entire setting was destroyed, the game was completely broken, and his character was built ENTIRELY within DND rules. The character I’m mentioning was deliberately game breaking, but after that, his game-breaking character skill carried through without him meaning for it.

[@1bful]

I find it funny that all the characters are rolled into each other. Also these are super accurate which is also funny.

[@spideredcherry]

Because your knees are weak MY PALMS AREN'T SWEATY Can I open the pouch already? *_Spaghetti's ready._*

[@the_real_breeso]

I know I am a few months late, but damn. I remember your first video all that time back. Now I feel old. Good job, guys!

[@jonpeer5235]

While you were living your life, Ruric Lauder second son of Korgath was studying the blade.

[@elgatochurro]

If a DM is getting burnt out, the players could help by running a game for him so he can relax or help him write or inspire him

[@SignatureFox713]

To be frank my most recent campaign was a #11. I was still kind of new, we had a newbie who was asked to leave because we had more than 6 players, and a mastermind behind the scenes playing against us under our noses.

[@Sgt-Wolf]

Using a Gameboy for a phone, A Skyrim game guide for a D&D guide. I'm noticing a Patton here.

[@jessemcdonough7558]

This is just so hilarious I love it they over exaggerated so so much it made it so funny great job guys

[@thefriendliestgamer9525]

Am I the only one that feels like this is the type of KZbin content we need more of as a whole?

[@thefriendliestgamer9525]

Liches and Losers I’m glad! I can tell how much fun you guys had with this and I couldn’t help watch it all.

[@sovest555]

The guy speaking his character name all the time reminds me of MMO RP where people always emote with their character names XD

[@Narutobelieveit56]

best purple clear gameboy phone i have ever seen with pokemon red as the game.

[@Madadader]

My first thought to the title: Why the hell would you EVER want to play with 10 other players?

[@TheOfficalNateRiver]

Literally no one: Rurik Lauder, second son of Korgoth: you shoulda aimed for the head.

[@gigaswardblade7261]

Honestly tho, why put 10 into int when you rolled a 17?

[@sosomadman]

For shits and giggles

[@atomicwoodpecker0123]

Next video: 12 players you don't want to play with

[@writer15131]

I've played with a distracted, wanna-be tactician who complained like the Team Killer, but never quit the group. If you ever meet one, run.

[@L8P8]

Marvelous, bloody marvelous.

[@LichesandLosers]

Thank you!

[@plagueknight8026]

my brothers a DM so naturally everytime we annoy him he threatens to kill off our character

[@DeadaussieGamer]

So distracted he was using his gameboy as a phone

[@ThatMysteriousPlace]

Well my recent roll20 games had. -People who powerbuild characters and try to force you do same, take generic standard spells, then complain you don't have them. -People who read the campaign and act like they didn't. -People who rage if their roll doesn't get result they expected with their overpowered +10 to some roll at lvl1. -People who interrupt game with constant offtopic talk every 5 mins. Zzzzzz

[@wordforger]

Ugh. I can't stand metagaming. If my character doesn't have a reason to act a certain way, even if I personally know that a particular action would make for the most profitable outcome for the group, then I don't do it. Because I'm in it for the journey, not the destination. In fact, failure is often more interesting (and hilarious) than too simple success.

[@brighamc6211]

That little blue plate at 4:50? Yah. I have one just like that.

[@KJ-ud9uf]

That moms spaghetti joke was amazing

[@matthewcoyle4131]

Skyrim base guide is the most important player handbook.

[@Medbread]

Yup. This is my party.... Specifically my Cleric. Everyone was new to DnD, save for me and our DM. The DM didn't even try to help the group create their characters despite them not even knowing the basics, so I had to help them out all the day before the campaign. (DM also refused to continue the campaign past an hour and a half and we spent the rest of the time just sitting around on our phones.) I helped everyone create a fleshed out character that could provide the DM with hooks, taking care not to force the players into making the character how I'd make them, even if their decisions were not optimal for the party. The cleric refused to work with me on her character, saying she had already made one for the DnD club she was a part of. The day of the first session came and she arrived with her cleric, which we discovered was at level 1, instead of 3 which we were starting at, causing our healer to be instantly oneshot. The DM didn't bother helping her fix her sheet so that it was level 3, so I attempted to help her out. The moment I began describing Channel Divinity: Turn Undead, she responded with, "I don't care, that sounds boring." And continued the rest of the session at level 1. Luckily, it wasn't a combat heavy campaign. Around the 50 minute mark, our Cleric, Druid, and Ranger left the table to go to the backyard and play with the DM's dog. The DM ignored it and continued with the 3 of us that remained. Then, the DM told us to roll for religion, which none of us had high proficiency in. But, we remembered how much our Cleric had been bragging about how high her religion was, and called her back in to roll. She asked us how to roll for Religion, and I finally took a look at her sheet to point to her proficiencies, only to find that she hadn't filled out, written, or chosen any of her proficiencies, features, or starting equipment. We ended up rolling ourselves, and she went back to playing with the dog. Sometime after that session, our DM told us on Discord that she'd scrapped the campaign in favour of a Persona campaign. She had been pushing it for a while, even during the first session, but I kept suggesting not to, since none of our group knew a single thing about the Persona franchise, save for the DM, the Cleric, and I, and she wanted to modify the DnD system to accomodate personas, which I advised strongly against, since she had no DnD experience aside from watching Critical Role and DMing the one session. It's been about half a year and I've heard no word of any progress on that Persona campaign, so I can only assume she got stuck at trying to modify the system and lost interest or gave up. I've tried getting my friends together for a campaign I've already written, but none of them want to try it.

[@kmeanxneth]

rip

[@tristanmitchell1242]

The "cell phone" that the late guy had in the beginning, was a Game Boy Color...

[@x3AnimeFanXD]

Thank god, all of my players(me included) and my dm are tacticians xD but we always have unprepared or disappearing players. And we made sure that people who want to be edgelords will suffer the consequences so we only use edge to spice the characters up a bit xD

[@aidreamers]

How many people realized he was having a phone conversation on a gameboy? XD

[@ERBanmech]

To be fair I fit into the tactician archetype but I am not one to throw shade on people’s character choices but I am one to make a plan of attack before an encounter

[@thevoodooman1609]

"Kuh-Tan-uh" Bro

[@contown731]

You forgot "The Power Gamer" and "The Guy That Won't Stop Implying the DM Should Give Him Magic Items" I'm stuck with a guy that embodies both of those...

[@noir3231]

Just asking as future reference how would I handle someone like that? Im a new DM and I sometimes think I give my players to much at times.

[@kintsuki99]

His cellphone is a gameboy colour... 11 is also technically not a player...

[@BestOnThursdays]

I had a friend with a 12-page character and it was hell...

[@EdenRooz2902]

What wrong with home brew characters?

[@saintmastema17]

nothing, except you have to tell the dm and make sure the dm agrees with it. as they shown in the video the homebrewed character had a shit ton of things over powered because he was homebrewed.

[@kmeanxneth]

Homebrew race's are pretty cool if you work with your DM about it

[@jjju3]

You CAN NEVER just fly that shit randomly at your dm at the start of a session If you're going to play a role thats different than the already _pre balanced_ character youre going to need to have your dm delegate it. Not to mention it could seriously affect the plot arc if your DM has one, and again - it could be ridiculously under or over powered.

[@AllSonial]

I haven't met any of them but I am the burnt out DM.

[@patrickduffin7912]

You know which one I hate ? The one where your ally tries to kill you cause you accidentally left him to fend for himself with his old character and then he swore revenge against all future characters

[@juanipani2606]

I thought it was gonna be 11 players playing at the same time

[@artsyboi7833]

I just recently started playing dnd and I'm already a team killer I have plotted way to many deaths and I have such insanely smart ways of doing them

[@brianpurdun6808]

Watching this gave me a headache. And knowing I’m one of them.... I absolutely need to change my ways as a player.

[@whistlepunkz]

Me, shaking: oh fuck what if I'm one of these people oh fuck

[@hydonyxdesign6507]

I’m only good at playing one type of character believably so I have a few characters that are almost exactly the same

[@adamwelch4336]

I also hate the guy who makes a charter that's over the top and impossible but doesn't let anybody else do the same thing

[@Larry.R]

0:38 Did I just see somebody using their Game Boy Colour with Pokémon Red inserted to make a phone call?

[@tjswanson6953]

He was talking into a game boy color...

[@kidincredgamez5819]

I can understand wanting a player to have a character which makes some grain of sense (a wizard that would have an at least above average intelligence) however to force a desired character upon another is, in my opinion, a tad rude.

[@TigerKirby215]

It's always the Katanas.

[@ryldmeh251]

I’m gonna have fun with a character who seems like the edgelord at first then he acts like a total Disney princess

[@Andoxico]

I'm the player that stacks dice until combat starts

[@Andoxico]

@@LichesandLosers *crawls out from under the table* "Did someone say... *initiative?"*

[@flesh_blanket]

I wish I had friends that play D&D or friends in general...

[@KaguraLioness]

Not to throw shade, but my highschool d&d group was just like this

[@danandbands5854]

my highschool d&d group IS CURRENTLY like this

[@vinokai]

Highschool DxD

[@bentonknox5240]

Did you also have the guy who wouldn’t show rolls and always said he got a 19 or 20?

[@zilkiffalali3113]

@@bentonknox5240 it defeats the purpose of the game. How wasteful

[@fuzz1191]

My highschool d&d group is more organized than this.

[@omgitsbrutalbri]

“I don’t know what you were expecting. We never get more than about 20 minutes of actual gameplay in the last 4 hours we’ve done anything.” Too relatable, man.

[@JoeXTheXJuggalo1]

Believe me I used to play a game where I was at least the table for aboug 5-6 hrs but we only did about an hour or less of actual game play because everyone else is being stupid.

[@blakejohnson2542]

yessssss

[@TheRealestNumber7]

I was playing cuthulu and we had 20 grams of cocaine and we were at a zoo and we thought "let's feed it to the monkeys" so we did wasting alot of time while half of our party was in the hospital

[@azula8226]

Love the inclusion of 4 and 20 420

[@Ubermensch9240]

I absolutely hate that.

[@Bent773]

Dude, the distracted player is THE WORST. Had a guy playing video games and only looking up from his laptop to do combat and even then he would just be like "Which guy is closest? Um...sure, I'll go for him" and then go back to his game.

[@matmarts]

I'm sorry, what's happening? I was talking to professor Oak.

[@MercuryCat]

My dad, who DMs, always makes sure to punish distracted players by making things more..... “interesting”.....for them Read, surprise attack on said distracted player’s character

[@Bent773]

@@MercuryCat You dad sounds like a real dude. Much respect.

[@l-gzy7400]

I had to stop a campaign because of some of the people I was dming for. We were playing over discord when i said it was his turn and he was playing cod he wanted us to WAIT FOR HIM TO FINISH HIS 10 minute game for his turn (he was angry when he wasnt in initiative that round)

[@yurihageshi8008]

That laptop would go or both him would

[@kadeshaderow]

RURIK LAUDER, SECOND SON OF KORGOTH WONDERS WHY ARE YOU PLAYING WITH PATHFINDER SPLATS AND A STARFINDER GM SCREEN IN A VIDEO MARKED D&D?!

[@sasquatch8600]

The "phone" he was talking on at the beginning was a Gameboy Color and you want to call them out on not using the right books or GM screen, from the moment I saw that I knew attention to detail wasn't the goal of the video.

[@kadeshaderow]

@@sasquatch8600 I mean that happens at 0:32 in, so I was a bit sharper on the uptake than you chummer

[@sasquatch8600]

@@kadeshaderow so you wrote that comment in all CAPS before the 32 second mark? Someone made a poor decision commenting on the video before watching all of it or even the first minute.

[@aralornwolf3140]

You missed the Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Hand Book, lol.

[@2MeterLP]

One of the books said skyrim. Hes using a gameboy as a phone. Yióu have very thoroughly missed the joke

[@gunhead7159]

Your knees are weak. bUt My PaLmS aReNt SwEaTy! Can I open the pouch already? *The spaghetti is ready.*

[@marshroverv5632]

I mean I just don't want to play with 11 players in the first place, that'd be super chaotic.

[@yuunishinoya2530]

@marshrover V Chaotic Neutral? Or Chaotic Evil?

[@nickharrod7450]

marshrover V I can confirm that it is chaotic

[@MissMonsterBear]

Yeah, my group once tried 8 or 9 players for a CoC campaign. It wasn't intentional, but 2 of our usual players last minute decided they each wanted to bring a few friends (without asking), so we tried to include them. All of which were completely new to gaming, and were all variations of what's in this video. Fastest intentional tpk I've ever seen. It was so horrible that we made a no bringing guests rule afterwards.

[@ViralForceMarketing]

sounds like your friends needed to understand that you ask first before appearing with complete strangers.@@MissMonsterBear

[@VeraTheTabbynx]

Currently in a campaign that started normally and peaked at 20 people. Thank god it's laid out the way it is, using Discord for the whole thing and seperate channrls per location, since some players are even in different time zones!

[@aienma6660]

I dealt with a potential campaign killer before. some kid wanted to join cause he was interested... he was a Tabaxi kitten, and tried to kill the mayor (because he 'was' feral with a thirst for blood). then our Gnome, an older Tabaxi, and a water Gynasi for trying to stop him... the dm warned him that we all had 2-3 levels on him AKA are more experienced fighters. That wasn't gonna stop him, he doesn't back down from a fight, no matter the odds I wrapped my tail (Tiefling) around him stop him... telling him to stand down... little bastard bit the tip. I slammed him into the ground... he rolled a nat trying to brace himself. Broke his neck and split his skull open... leaving him with 1 HP When I went to try stabilize him... as I did he stole a bottle off me... and drank it (think it was a health potion)... he died a very painful, painful dead due to it being poison... bleed from his eyes, mouth, nose and ears... his face melted away, as did the rest of his flesh (by this point he left in a huff) and became a puddle on the ground... to which our Dragonborn's pet wolf... began to drink the remains. Lesson of the day... dont piss of the DM by trying to kill plot important characters

[@kylebeach6799]

To be fair, if he hadn't been butthurt and rolled with it, that would have been a hilarious introduction for the newbie to learn not to fuck with the DM too hard.

[@aienma6660]

@@kylebeach6799 Agreed, but the kid was upset that he wasnt able to rampage and kill everyone... like he does in Skyrim.

[@fishman5909]

Had a similar tale. He decided he wanted to play a paladin,. He picked only healing spells(new to 5e) so I fucked with him. He failed a roll, so I said, "as you see you magic frolic in the wind, it suddenly strikes a troll. It heals 1d20 hp. He died and said he quit while laughing his ass off. We all had a good session.

[@tangyhyperspace2217]

If you hade a wizard that knew something like imprisonment this would've been even more funny

[@fishman5909]

@@tangyhyperspace2217 agreeable lol

[@Jacob-qr8pl]

To be fair, no wizard should have 10 in intelligence😆

[@SabirKhan-wu6je]

@Geoffrey Robb well still wizards should atleast be a 12 Int

[@kmeanxneth]

@Geoffrey Robb "it totally does!if you have a 10 in str, and want to have your character be the personality of the strong jock thats great. but he's gonna be the type to almost always fail his str checks" - Geoffrey Robb

[@Jacob-qr8pl]

@Geoffrey Robb But wizards have low health. How can they tank anything? A high CON can help but not with d6 hit dice.

[@Shabbinald]

Keep in mind y'all it was a homebrew tactician

[@Shabbinald]

@Geoffrey Robb done right, IF the player knows how to. Which ours didn't. Also the video's meant to exaggerate the negatives we've seen in our groups, to an absurd degree. Glad you got the joke.

[@kiddkasket5305]

Me, as a Newb to D&D: "better watch it and make sure I'm not any of these"

[@MrTurtleMusic]

Kidd Kasket meee

[@elizabethsmith7224]

I've been the unprepared before, I never want to be again.

[@adolfocortesregalado2761]

You have chosen correctly

[@0MidnighttheDragon0]

in defense of "the tactician" type...I could understand if he just...didnt have it as his HIGHEST stat and it was very much a nitpick but...literally having a +0 in a stat that is LITERALLY your casting stat is kidna a middle finger to the rest of your party in case you get into combat. especially if you're only a 3 person party.

[@cjirwin867]

I can agree with you there

[@onup1475]

He should be at the very least a 14in intelligence. You could buy a headband of intelligence eventually, gradually upgrading it throughout your adventure

[@BillcosbyKNOWS]

Yeah, that guy wouldn't have been able to cast any spells in several systems lolol

[@dasirrlicht5415]

The plot twist: The tactican decided they needed a wiz and declared the late join a wiz. They actually wanted to play a bard.

[@louc.6735]

Word. Especially if it's combat heavy like AL.

[@romdog1818]

"...trained in the arts of *katanery* " 🤣 Had to google it, thank God it's not a real word, makes it 10x more funny.

[@bluebones6776]

Homebrew race's are pretty cool if you work with your DM about it, and not being insanely OP lol

[@DaxterL]

Keyword being working with your DM

[@samanthastahl1549]

The issue I have with allowing a player to use a homebrew in a campaign is the player usually doesn't want to make changes to the already established powerful character. Normally they fall in love with the class/race and are not willing to compromise to fit in with the rest of the group. I dunno though, maybe at some later date I'll try again but as of right now I don't accept homebrew. Thoughts?

[@bluebones6776]

@@samanthastahl1549 Well if the player who fail's to compromise with the DM, then the player cant play that Race/Class, plan and simple. If the player don't like that, it's really hard to change his/her mind about it if they're that persistent about it, and maybe not the type you would want to hang around with anyway.

[@TarsonTalon]

I think powerful homebrew characters should only be reserved for people who actually prefer heavy roleplaying, and whose power doesn't make their characters what they are. In fact, they view their power as a burden of responsibility they wanted nothing to do with, but alas their circumstances aren't of their own choosing.

[@TarsonTalon]

@@samanthastahl1549 Only allow players who have an established history of good roleplay, or are fixated on good roleplay and present an excellent backstory, to play homebrew characters. Specifically, characters that add more to your campaign's depth more than they take away, in terms of more things to do vs. things made easier to do. If the homebrew character does not actually want anyone to find out they're a monster, for instance, then the fact they are powerful means nothing in combat because they will be trying to keep themselves a secret, thus holding back. I like how Critical Role does things, where each player character essentially brings a mini campaign to the table, and the DM ties their stories into the story they want to tell. The goal of the player playing this kind of character should be to retire them as an NPC eventually, perhaps with the mind that they will use them when they are the DM, making the next campaign full of references to what happened in the previous campaign. Perhaps they are a benevolent force, or the big bad, in the next campaign. I think a good rule of thumb is, if the player who made the homebrew character is perfectly willing to fight or encounter that character if it was an NPC against the party, then it's likely a homebrew that could add something more to the campaign. If they are hesitant, then it's likely overpowered and will wreck whatever story you're trying to make.

[@inquisitorfivecraft5424]

And randomly Skyrim applies to D&D apparently lol

[@jamesmerkel1932]

Inspiration and homebrew possibilities exist, which fits the hidden homebrew tactician persona beautifully lol. I thought it was a clever double entendre :)

[@inquisitorfivecraft5424]

@@jamesmerkel1932 you get a cookie

[@jamesmerkel1932]

@@inquisitorfivecraft5424 YAY COOKIES!!!

[@Hannah-nl5qq]

You forgot about the Know it All, the player who interrupts the DM and answers questions directed at the DM cause they think they know better but are often wrong.

[@Jason-xg3iw]

Oh that one really is the worst. I had someone do that at Gen Con last year when playing a new game system called Wrath & Glory (a Warhammer 40k game). He was a beta tester who constantly corrected the GM, who was using the final version of the rules. Causing lots of confusion all around, especially for me who never played this game system. It was the worst tabletop RPG experience I have ever had.

[@Ubermensch9240]

That was in another video on this very channel.

[@sourwitch2340]

I think the Tactician is the most okay of them. They just need to be open about their intent and learn to except that it doesn't align with everyone else's. Or look for a group that has a focus more to his needs. But the vanishing act. Now that's the worst.

[@InfernosReaper]

At the same time, when someone's playing a caster and doesn't have a stat that's actually high enough to cast their spells, that player needs to be hit with something. You're playing a wizard, not a commoner. Stat accordingly To be real, I get the "I'm not *that* kind of thief" types, but casters have a much stricter stat requirement than non-casters. Without spells, they are essentially useless. I mean, dude doesn't have to put a 17 in it, but at least like a 14 or something, so he can actually do *something*

[@InfernosReaper]

To be real, if your stat isn't high enough to actually cast spells, then you're not a wizard. You're a delusional commoner.

[@aaronhurst4379]

A delusional commoner who thinks they're a wizard sounds like a great idea for a character though tbh

[@rubespritchy890]

I started watching your ten players you don’t want in your game about an hour ago, and then this comes up......perfect timing for me to find your channel

[@kanyeyeastinfection3613]

What about the player who is always begging for a break or is always cracking jokes, it can really ruin the game

[@kanyeyeastinfection3613]

Liches and Losers ok I can completely agree with that but what I mean with cracking joke is as a dm when I’m telling a serious part of my story and they’ll interrupt and make a joke kinda bother me, I’m happy to see you responded it shows you really care for you viewers

[@kanyeyeastinfection3613]

Liches and Losers so I have a question, do you write your stories or do you make them up on the spot?

[@jammo7370]

I’m the guy cracking jokes, but I only do it MCU style where it’s after I body someone while doing a wrestling style pose. Snarking at npcs is always a good time

[@jamesmerkel1932]

@@jammo7370 there are days I miss my Barb, he and the ranger were half-orcs so whenever we had time to kill in game (pub scenes, night watches, mid combat with fodder) we'd pull shenanigans. One time we set the dwarf on fire semi-accidentally, we improved upon the boring game of darts (by drawing red circles on each other and aiming for those) and would typically dress the practice dummy at home base with the rogues gear. Much fun was had, though we never did eat the druids animal friend. Pesky bastard was fast :)

[@J_BiggityBar]

@Liches and Losers yea im fine with other players that like to joke around and have fun together. But then there's the "solo joker" who spends almost as much if not more time making out-of-game jokes and inappropriate or even NSFW comments than they do actually playing. There almost never in-character and most of the time what they're joking about isn't even relevant to what's happening in-game. Also, doesn't help if some of there "jokes" are just an excuse to insult other PC's /players without actually doing it in-game so no one can technically react to it.

[@lizzytrip4560]

Honestly, imo, there is differences in making your character and then theres gimping your character, like a wizard with 10 int is weird but if they have particularly low stats its not off. But like a rogue with an 18 in Charisma but a 15 in Dex is unique but not bad

[@oliverwilhelm6171]

@@grimjudgment6527 In D&D 3.5/Pathfinder, a spellcaster can only cast spells of a level equal to 10 plus the spells level. So a wizard with 10 Intelligence can only cast Cantrips. Don't get me wrong! Cantrips are awesome, buuuut probably not... ideal.

[@emptyvienna]

No, a rogue with an 18 in Charisma but a 15 in Dex is just bad. It's not unusable but, assuming you're just a rogue and not some multiclass that you didn't mention, it's just a worse choice all around that 18 dex and 15 charisma

[@lizzytrip4560]

@@emptyvienna id argue that the 18 cha could be more fun to roleplay as a flirt/ladies man

[@emptyvienna]

@@lizzytrip4560 your stats dont affect roleplaying. it might affect your persuasion checks but thats a gameplay boost. and you'll never be as good of a speech monkey as a cha caster that can do that + get actual benefit from boosting charisma. roleplay it how you like but its just mechanically stupid to do that

[@thundersheild926]

@@emptyvienna Except some people prefer that their stats reflect their character. In my current campaign I have a wizard who put his 16 charisma and his 14 into intelligence because his character's was he was a trader with strong ties to the guild, and wizarding was more of a hobby. Sure, it was a suboptimal choice from a mechanical viewpoint, but that does not mean it was a bad choice.

[@dirtydan143]

I never played D&D, but I think someone obsessed with alignment could be really annoying. Just imagine, someone who slow down the game thinking about what actions should his character take considering that he his lawfull good or true neutral. Even worse, he could criticize every choise that the rest of the party takes because, according to him "Thats not what a chaotic good character would do"

[@andrewpenn1145]

(coughcough) paladins (coughcough)

[@ScorpiusRexXIII]

@@andrewpenn1145 to be fair, especially in earlier editions, be a bit too lenient and poof. There goes the holy powers until you repent.

[@andrewpenn1145]

@@ScorpiusRexXIII Okay.

[@dexterisawesomerapmusic]

OH MY FUCKING GOD I played with a kid online, (we were playing in a mostly neutral and chaotic good party) who was a fucking CHAOTIC EVIL AND HE WOULD ALWAYS TRY KILL ESSENTIAL CHARACTERS TO THE PLOT, WHILE WE WERE TRYING TO BE THE GOOD GUYS AND TRYING TO SAVE THE WORLD, BUT THIS KID WAS JUST LIKE SMISMSKWLXJKFKD IM CHAOTIC EVIL

[@davidsmith7752]

@@dexterisawesomerapmusic As a DM, my answer would be pretty simple and straightforward. Allow them to kill one important, well connected person with resources. After they manage this and a couple of ingame weeks pass, revel in the fear instilled in them by the countless headhunting mercenaries hired by the newly resurrected person as they sweep the area, mercilessly and relentlessly hunting them down as they themselves experience the terror of someone unable to come close to putting up an adequate resistance against an overwhelming foe. In other words, actions have consequences. Allow players to experience the true weight of said consequences and (at least in my experience) they either learn prudence or learn that the campaign I'm running isn't what they are looking for.

[@double1777]

The ability check on opening a pouch is a war crime

[@steampunknord]

Holy shit it's my last dnd group to a tee. Goddamn. A bad first impression for sure. Every point in the list was taken up by at least one person in the group. A question, am I bad for sticking around so long desperately trying to make the group work that I became the grudge holder?

[@InfernosReaper]

Good question. I am kinda getting to a cross-roads with my main group. I've been playing with these dudes since 3rd Ed, but we're about as dysfunctional as this fictional group. Everyone who can run is burned out. Half the players aren't paying attention. Half the players don't try with their builds while the other half seems to be building like they might try to kill the party later, complete with that one dude who's always some race &/or class that he makes up. I genuinely have no idea what to do with us and I'm really considering giving up gaming at this point.

[@dakai-kun2248]

@@InfernosReaper terrible GM most likely

[@InfernosReaper]

@@dakai-kun2248 What do you mean?

[@michaeltryon4520]

Nothing wrong with homebrewing, you just need to converse with the DM before hand while your creating your character

[@matthiasbrumbaugh2582]

Great throwback to the old video! I look forward to "12 players of D&D you don't want to play with" in 2024

[@kmeanxneth]

or 12 DM of D&D you don't want to play with :)

[@freakonature316]

As a dm almost all of my players have always been one of these 11... "roll for a good party" Nat 1

[@mug-o-tea9517]

you forgot the dm who peeks favorites, so one part of the party is playing a survival game while the uther is playing high epic fantasy

[@livingcorpse349]

I mean tacticians aren’t too bad as long as they can keep their self control Also the Skyrim handbook 👌 nice

[@livingcorpse349]

Cause you can suggest but don’t force if they say no to it that’s it

[@t.b.cont.]

Before I start this video, I just want to say that I hope this video is about 11 specific human beings on this earth who are damned to be known as the worst players. Looking at you, David Smith.

[@halfjack2758]

At least I keep my tactics to my own character. It's not on me that the rest of the party can't solo a tarrasque by level 4.

[@tangyhyperspace2217]

If they try to fight a tarrasque at level 4 then they will last 5 seconds if the dice is feeling merciful

[@halfjack2758]

@@tangyhyperspace2217 *6 seconds

[@lordvectra7821]

I'm the same way tho most DnD groups kinda just make me their leader so it's like "well, okay." Though I just strategize with I have at my disposal. I dont tell ppl what they should do stat-wise or spell-wise unless advice is asked.

[@tobealostwanderer]

*swishes cape so everything flies off the table* hAH ME 'Do you all of us to die for you to be different?' HECK YES?!

[@carsonrush3352]

Spoilers 1) The Over The Top Player 2) The Unprepared 3) The Burnt Out DM 4) The Behind the Screen Homebrew 5) The Distracted 6) The Tactician 7) The Grudge Bearer 8) The Edgelord 9) The Disappearing Act 10) The Team Killer 11) The Disfunctional Group

[@taekinuru2]

This is somewhat too real. Especially as our 'Tactician' is really bad at it and doesn't understand that our 3e game is not the same as 5e and some things are different. No, monks aren't very good. No, I don't have infinite cantrips.

[@jamesharrison142]

Dylan Parry why would you go beck to 3e >.< (Personal opinion, but why???)

[@adras98]

I think 3.5e is the most stable Imo. 5 lets you a lot of options but when you role can transform into a chaotic shit.

[@feritperliare2890]

adras98 I like 3.5 for the prestige classes damn why aren’t there more prestige classes for pathfinder pathfinder is overall more fun but I miss the unique characters

[@InfernosReaper]

@@adras98 Why 3.5e over Pathfinder, though?

[@InfernosReaper]

@@feritperliare2890 Yeah, instead of prestige classes, they just made overly niche archetypes and class talents. It's kind of a waste. Some ideas really should be prestige classes. Worse, too many classes have archetypes to fill the same role, while their balance with each other. At that point, it really should just be a prestige class type thing. Then again, seeing a prestige class was rare for most games anyway because you have to be 6+ for them, often higher, and many games you'd be lucky if you were higher than 3 starting out. Many of them would honestly be fine at the 3+ range like d20 modern's "advanced classes". So, if I were to change anything about how Pathfinder does classes(other than introduce certain 3rd party material to balance the system better better), it'd be to adjust prestige class requirements to be available sooner and convert some of those archetype package concepts into proper prestige classes like they clearly should be.

[@ryannovak3593]

I wanna play dnd so badly

[@elgatochurro]

Can add you to our group if the others are ok with it

[@ryannovak3593]

@@elgatochurro I am still a beginner and i have only played about 2 sessions of 5e and two sessions of pathfinder

[@hadorstapa]

You should have joined my last game. No-one’s played D&D that badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. (With apologies to Ben Elton and Richard Curtis)

[@ryannovak3593]

@@hadorstapa man. He must have been a typo in the order. I know the basics of it and i am in one game that we got to choose our stats and abother that we rolled for them

[@KucheKlizma]

Trust me, no you don't.

[@isabellewithagun1978]

The unprepared and the disappearing act is one guy in are group and he just does what he wants (were working on kicking him out)

[@BlueCappy77]

Video labeled D&D with a Starfinder Gm screen and a Pathfinder rulebook

[@Kardinaalilintu]

I've had to deal with a DM, who wants to constantly win against the players..... you can imagine how fun it is to create a new character in every session and not being able to advance in the area indefinitely....

[@InfernosReaper]

Years of that has made some players I play with weary of telling other players, let alone player characters, what it is their characters can actually. Hell, some don't even tell the GM. I tried to have stats and ability lists for all the players on the last game I ran. Most of the players wouldn't fill it out for me. Some couldn't be bothered and some were afraid I'd use that information against their characters. It's like, "no dude. I want to use stuff not in that monster book and the only way I'm not going to kill everyone is if I know what the characters can do" After a while, I just gave up running. I'm considering giving up playing too if I can't find anyone who runs a system I'd like to play.

[@KhezuWiggles]

As a person Who DMed my first game with my friends, all elementary school and just graduated, I have had to deal with all of these, thankfully they are better now

[@2bloodyorcs624]

wow what edition. i definitely didn't start DMing until about 8th grade. that being said i started playing at 5 or 6.