11 things they don't tell you about rim brakes

[@PeterReid-r9j]

Rim brakes have stood the test of time. It is the new marketing that is pushing disc brake sales on road bikes that I personally don’t think is necessary.

[@Cicadawee]

I have a Mavic, and up to now, 25yrs plus older than my eldest, and still using it.

[@madyogi6164]

@@CicadaweeGood point! Keep them. Rim brakes are fine. Specially these Ultegra R-8000 are cool lookers (even if I have old Tektro model, lighter 20 g per side).

[@cycomiles4225]

People do buy disc brakes way more though, when we had options people bought disc versions more....consumers voted and brands followed suit.

[@dmitryhetman1509]

​@@cycomiles4225I bought rim brakes not disc, disc brakes too heavy

[@cycomiles4225]

@@dmitryhetman1509 doesnt matter...disc outsold the rim...theres still tons of brands offering rim brakes.... Too heavy? Maybe for a pro, but fir tze rest of us that weight is negligable...most people ride 10+ kg bikes with no issues, the weight isnt that special...

[@byrondixon4648]

I've put over 20,000km on my light alloy wheels and they are fine (easy another 10k but not sure about the hubs). Modern rim brake bikes have clearance for 28mm tyres generally, so for road riding in the dry, rim is better - lighter, quieter, cheaper, and far less fuss.

[@fadenseiden]

I love my rim brake bike. Unfortunately it can only handle 25s in the back :(

[@madyogi6164]

My old 6700 Ultegra-s did about ~50k so far and still going. Well, front hub has a minor pit on the bearing race (not visual, but can feel it with a pen, in a single spot). I've found some other brand and replaced the hub last year. Has nice press-fit bearings and surprisingly, is 50 g lighter. Rim itself is about to last maybe two or three more years, for the wear mark to finally disappear. - I have 2 wheel sets, so no big deal. Will build new one if in need. ;-)

[@byrondixon4648]

@@madyogi6164 my light alloy wheels didn't last too much longer, but I would have assumed Ultegra wheels would have lasted longer. Bit heavier but hey.

[@dmitryhetman1509]

​@@fadenseiden25 is fine

[@attybong]

#7 should read .. "manufacturers are forcing rimbrakes out of the market to make the buying public pay double for diskbrakes" lol !!

[@COYOTEEXILE]

Rim brake for road racing Disc for mountain, gravel, cyclocross, commuter and winter bikes. Discs dentists and rims for serious riders.

[@e3dave744]

👍👌🏻😂😂😂

[@Bluesman2509]

Exactly mate spot on!!!!!

[@VictorElGreco]

Provided you keep the braking surface clean, alloy rims will wear out at a glacial pace. And even when they do, they won’t take you to the poorhouse to replace.

[@therainbowgulag.]

I run disc and rim. I got 30,000 miles on my last rim brake wheels.

[@dyzoly]

Very funny, guys, most of the disadvantages here are valid for discs also..

[@steelthedeal2777]

Unless you are getting paid to ride in the rain and bomb descents on a regular basis, rim is more than enough. Disc is a solution-to a problem that doesn’t exist.

[@roadcc]

don't know how it is where you live, but it rains basically every other day here in Bath. and bombing is what descents are for :-)

[@petrosspetrosgali]

@@roadccwhen growing up on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico, all we had were U-brakes. I could lock up the rear wheel and do stopped on my ‘83 nashbar in HEAVY rain. If you just drag your brakes a little when they’re wet, you’re fine. Only problem riders may need disk brakes.

[@hcw199]

Same about electronic group sets and tubeless tyres.

[@dmitryhetman1509]

​@@petrosspetrosgaliRear wheel blocks easy af, stopping power is needed at front wheel not rear

[@petrosspetrosgali]

@@dmitryhetman1509 I’m well aware of that. Have you ever tried to lock up your front wheel? No thanks. You totally missed the meaning of my comment.

[@CavenInToTheWorld]

Rim is just a bigger disk. 😂😁

[@gcqtvchannel4125]

Discs are NOISY. You have to clean discs regularly, I would rather ride all day vs. cleaning these finger cutters! I end up returning to rim brakes. The end.

[@billyhill727]

I have a CAAD 8 since 2013 with rim brakes. I've had to change my rims twice. 1 spokes kept busting. 2 got hit by a car. Other than that my rims are just fine.

[@Apex820]

Now do a video on 11 things they don’t tell you about disk brake! Air in the lines, squeaking, not opening all the way, bleeding lines, disk warping , heavier just to name a few. Disk brakes on a bike is not necessary it’s just the bike industry‘s way of making more money!

[@roadcc]

We have done that video...

[@user-xh7rz6sh7t]

Re-bleeding after you realize you need a different length stem. These people are ridiculous.

[@richardbaruch3355]

Amen

[@daLoerdchen]

Riding a disc bike for about a year and considering selling it and get back on an 2016/2017 Trek Emonda rim version. The braking performance and especially feedback with rim brakes is a hundred times better than that of a disc one. With my old rim brake bike I went down hills with 80+km/h and was totally confident. Now I'm going a lousy 40km/h and I have no confidence at all.

[@JohnLumapaskeith]

I think it's all about the riders preference. Rim or disc, whichever works for the person at that given time. As for rim brakes, if it can win multiple grand tours since it's invention, then I think it's good enough for regular riding.

[@kev7355]

I tried both, and on road bikes, I prefer the rim brake + alloy rim combination all day. With alloy wheels and decent brake pads ( I'm on Swissstop BXP and 105 brakes ), the braking force is on par with most disc brakes in the dry. In the wet, the traction between the tyres and tarmac reduces, and I'd want my braking force to reduce accordingly. In the wet, if you are not careful, it is not difficult to lock the front wheels with disc brakes. Once you lock that wheel, it doesn't matter how good your brakes are anymore. 10000km, and still on my original alloy wheelset.

[@draugmithrin]

Exactly, Durianrider makes this point and shows vidoe of lots of race crashes caused by disc brakes locking up wheels.

[@davidspendlove5900]

@@draugmithrinyeah they’ll be pushing abs next.

[@junreaksaa]

Got disc for my long rides and off roads. Got rim brakes for daily commute, rain or shine, climb and decent.

[@jirdesteva]

I own a 1993 Giant Attraction taken decent care of it for over 28 years. Rim breaks heavy as hell steel bike that still stops real well. Regular cleaning and replacement of the pads.

[@Stormbringer1984y]

1. cheap rim brake bike on alloy rims can be lighter than 10k$ superbike :)

[@teeambird2079]

@loccojoe666 I think they mean the combination of rim brakes and alloy wheel are lighter than a super bike rims and disc combination

[@BM-xm1zz]

Yup… but remember the industry wants us to ignore weight - “last decade metric”

[@NewPolishScientist]

I still prefer rim brake bike even in the rain 🙂

[@robertandrews3055]

So you must only climb up hills.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

More disc brake marketing BS… as someone that rides both and own a bike shop - rim brake is my choice.

[@markusseppala6547]

I live in the countryside, I might go 100km without touching the brakes. I will at some point upgrade to discs to have better selection of wheels but I'm in no hurry.

[@nemure]

I don't get the idea of the video. Half of what you said is wrong, like brake pads. They are super cheap, while disk brakes ones are expensive + the disk itself which gets bent and damage quite often PS: new wheels come with disk only because they are more expensive and money is the ultimate goal for them, facts

[@theoneandonlykk777]

They also don't tell you most pros would go to rim brakes in a heartbeat its the sponsors stop that just ask Froome !

[@jaredfontaine2002]

Don't care! Rim brake forever!!!!

[@villedocvalle]

Kool Stop Salmon pads spotted there at the beginning. I like them so much better over the almost plastic feel of the Shimano pads.

[@BM-xm1zz]

Like holy crap….. rim brakes have been used in grand tours longer than disc brakes without issue. This is a clear example of “sell out” come guys spend 3x more on a heavy bike that “remember weight was last decade”

[@stfu6397]

Indeed

[@stevechang3045]

Funny you asked Shimano for brake surface life. I always thought Shimano destroyed the most wheel with its hard like hell brake pads.

[@dickieblench5001]

Exactly. Replace Shimano immediately with Swiss stop

[@mreese8764]

The new Shimano compound in R55C4 works just as well if not better. They have different varieties. There's a table with performance comparison. The rubber for racing wears the rims but it does break best.

[@sebastianm2381]

On my old 90s Peugeot I'm using Campag Potenza rim brakes and believe it or not - I can cram 30mm wide Schwalbe One tires AND 35mm wide SKS mudguards in there. And it works. It's a tight fit up front. In the back not so much. Apart from super muddy conditions, there's no rubbing. And in 20 years of riding, I have yet to wear out a single rim with rim brakes. If you look after and clean your pads and if you're not using the hardest compound, there's really no need to be super worried about rim wear.

[@markusseppala6547]

I have even older Peugeot as a gravel bike. With Tektro R559 calipers I can easily fit a 40mm gravelking front and back.

[@matthewlewis2072]

Being one of the older riders, I have experience of single pivot rim brakes, on both steel and aluminium rims. Moving to dual pivot rim brakes later was a huge step forward. V-brakes took it even further. But disc brakes, above all Hydro or hybrid discs, just take it forward again. And I don't get all the concern about maintenance...how often do you change out a whole system? As for squealing...pfft, rim brakes do that. The focus on rim wear is nonsense, though. Far more important is wet weather performance.

[@shaunhoulahan4080]

As I said before if you ride in the rain maybe it’s worth it. I’ve done one wet weather ride in the last year. I also do a lot of bike building and restoration. For me the expense and the extra work is not worth it.

[@JibbaJabber]

Well said!

[@Rocky4719]

The one time I decided to ride on a damp morning after a rainstorm, I was hit with another heavy shower! But, my rim brake bike took it all with aplomb, so I’m convinced that rim brakes still work in the wet, just not as well as discs. Rim brakes all the way, especially because I am not paying more money for an already expensive category of bikes just to get disc brakes

[@javiersmith2216]

I was talking to a bike mechanic w more than 30 yrs experience. He said he saw it once in his career. I never heard of anyone wearing out an alloy rim and i dont know anyone who knows anyone who wore out an alloy rims.

[@montrose252]

Long live rim brakes!

[@stfu6397]

This is one of the top disc brake propaganda videos on KZbin 😂😂

[@rangersmith4652]

Ride mid-tier aluminum wheels, high-quality brake pads, and the best tires you can afford in the widest version you can fit, unless that's wider than 28mm. Clean the rims (off the bike so you can get to the brake pads) every 200 miles or so (more often if you ride in wet or very dusty conditions) with very fine steel wool then wipe them down with a liberal dose of isopropyl alcohol on a fresh microfiber cloth. Face the pads lightly with 400-ish grit sand paper then clean them with the alcohol and an old toothbrush. Your wheels will suffer negligible braking-surface wear over time, your braking power will be impressive, and you'll pocket enough cash (over carbon wheels and disc brakes) to buy lots of coffee and pastries. Or you can skip the pastries (Who in his or her right mind would skip the coffee?), and by the time you do suffer enough braking-surface wear to warrant a new set of mid-tier aluminum wheels, you'll have banked enough to buy them. Best of all, unless you're being paid to ride fast, you'll suffer insignificant performance loss compared to the more fashionable options.

[@peterahlstedt2043]

Many years ago Mavic produced Open Pro ceramic rims, the best rims I ever had. Nowadays it seems like it’s only DT Swiss who make ceramic coated rim wheels for rim brakes but unfortunately DT Swiss don’t sell only the ceramic rim so when it’s warned out it can’t be replaced. Any other brand who have coated rim brake surface on the rims ?

[@MainUkraine]

Disc just adds weight unless you fork over the money for a super expensive frame designed to be lighter with disc brakes. I got my Canyon CF SL 8 for under $3k and it weighs just over 7 kg plus has aero carbon handlebars, carbon seatpost, and decent alloy wheelset with dt swiss.

[@YuichiTamaki]

The cheap TEKTRO hydraulic disc brakes on my Giant Escape RX amazes me all the time. Specially after changing to "Red Pads" and changing my tires to Continental Ultra Sport III. Before those changes the modulation wasn't that good. Now it is predictable even on wet.

[@videofun8410]

The actual video title should be: We only looked at the disadvantages of rim brakes.

[@roadcc]

yes, that is kind of the point of the video. thanks for noticing :-)

[@petrosspetrosgali]

A few they discussed really don’t exist. It takes FOREVER to wear out Aluminium rims.

[@rmp3769]

RIM FOR ROAD AND DISC FOR DIRT

[@timtaylor9590]

my carbon rim brakes work too good in wet conditions u just need the right brake pads. want to slow down faster? pull harder

[@JogBird]

if youre a light weight rider riding on flat roads, then carbon wheel rim brakes is fine

[@insquares]

I'm heavy, ride in the mountains and road race on rim brake carbon wheels without problem. I also MTB and gravel ride with disc brakes for the advantages there.

[@coldforgedcowboy]

@@insquares It's all good until you have to make an emergency stop.

[@matthewlewis2072]

So, fine for like 5% of riders?

[@ernestoechevers4741]

Looks like your sponsors pulled your ears because of the other video 😂😂😂😂😂

[@matthewlewis2072]

Or maybe there were complaints about bias? PS the same sponsors also make rim brake stuff

[@roadcc]

I'll pull back the curtain a little bit. The disc brake video did well so we thought "we should do the same video but for rim brakes". Put the tin hats away 🤣

[@user-xh7rz6sh7t]

@@roadccWhich is overall BETTER considering overall performance gains vs constant straightening the disc, having to bleed and re-bleed if you change stem length, the increased need to take it to the shop, etc.? GOOOOOO!

[@zedddddful]

I prefer rim brakes the power is more than enough and they feel better than discs and you can get 4 genuine Shimano pads for £8 on the internet cheap as chips takes like 2 minutes to pop them in.

[@shaunhoulahan4080]

Everything you’ve said is true but unless you’re riding a lot in the rain or on mountainous terrain then rim brakes are fine. GCN did a stopping distance test recently and the difference at 40kph to zero was only an bike length in the dry with carbon rims. 2 lengths in the wet. I use aluminium rims and rarely ride in the wet. I don’t need the complexity or expense of disc brakes and I’ve never had to replace a wheel for brake wear. Unfortunately there are very few new bike options available with rim brakes but I’m going to be fine for a few years yet.

[@coldforgedcowboy]

Disc brakes are not more complex in fact they are simpler then rim brakes as there is less to go wrong and they require less maintenance to keep them in tune. Also 2 bikes lengths is the difference between eating a car or not eating a car.

[@shaunhoulahan4080]

@@coldforgedcowboy We’re probably not going to agree but I can install and set up a rim brake : cables, brake pads etc myself with basic tools. I could not do that with a disc brake. I only quoted the GCN test because the difference is very small. If you need the extra braking performance and you’re happy to pay $1000 or more for it then good for you.

[@coldforgedcowboy]

@@shaunhoulahan4080 While disc brakes are more difficult to set up because of the disc brakes hoses once they are set up they require very little maintenance other than changing pads, and occasionally cleaning and lubricating the caliaper piston. With rim brakes you have continually keep adjusting them because of pad wear and cable stretch.

[@matthewlewis2072]

A bike length (2 in the wet)? That's a lot

[@matthewlewis2072]

"Complexity of disc brakes" Errrr...such as? I have 2.5 disc brake bikes (one has rim at the back, kinky!). Pretty simple, really. Bikes aren't complicated.

[@draugmithrin]

My rim brakes work fine and are plenty powerful (ie. can lock wheels if I brake hard), a lot of marketing bushtit abounds to part rich consumers from their cash.

[@alistair410]

How long have rim brakes been around????? LOL

[@rhenceocampo3253]

I was in the rim brakes camp until I switched to disc brakes. Ngl, I wish I switched sooner.

[@stfu6397]

Brainwashed

[@nikolozchogovadze]

Super easy to maintain and better performance, I don't agree with this. Rim brakes last longer and they're super cheap.

[@paulhowell7103]

yeah alloy or carbon rims will wear eventually, but here is the thing most rider"s own more than one set of wheels. and will swap them out frequently,

[@tom0kiely]

Rims for the road are perfectly adequate and considerately cheaper to maintain. Not many people buy £40 plus pads, you can buy much cheaper aliexpress pads. I use Kingstop which work well and are so cheap I’ll just swap them out half worn rather than clean the old pads.

[@richardcarr6493]

l prefer RIM BRAKES on my road bikes and DISC BRAKES on my MTB s . ALLOY WHEELS WITH RIM BRAKES works fine for me for decades and l can fix adjust repair replace all of it myself !! l m a mechanic and have no wish to set up hydro brakes on a bicycle whatsoever !! My MTB s are mechanical too for now :) JUST REMEMBER ALL RACE ROAD BIKES ARE LIGHTER WITH RIM BRAKES !!

[@WyattFunk96]

Rim brakes definitely work fine in the rain.. seems like you’ve never actually ridden rim brakes before. Smh.

[@roadcc]

rim brakes on carbon rims don't work as well in the rain as disc brakes. especially if it's cold.

[@WyattFunk96]

@@roadcc yeah that’s not true at all. Ridden in cold and wet recently and had better braking performance than all the other riders on disc. And much much quieter at that.

[@sirbentley5526]

@@roadcc why is the Automatic assumption that a person on rim brakes is riding carbon rims 🤔 Alloys will always be better than carbon, in the dry and the wet🚲☔

[@WilliamMightyRed]

Concerning the durabiility issue, isnt most of the high end gear essentially race day tech. Long term durability isnt the focus as it just has to make it through a race with the idea that the bike will be overhauled afterwards.

[@Whitehawkvisionfilms]

Great info!

[@Andy_ATB]

I think the biggest one for me is No8; I've got a Domane with direct mount rim brakes, and 32mm tyres just about fit; anything more - no chance. If you want wider tyres and rim brakes, you'll need either canti/v-brakes, and how many of them are now made, apart from specialist frame builders?

[@villedocvalle]

It’s super easy to still find Avid v’s

[@peterwillson1355]

Rimbrake tech is stalling BS...rim braketech reached its goal long ago😂

[@stefancarabulea8331]

now i want to know what they don't tell you about disc brakes

[@roadcc]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYuQpoCfm5ueoK8 - your wish is our command

[@stefancarabulea8331]

@@roadcc lol thanks

[@CaLiDaRi]

Someone mentioned the Aribrakes can lock your wheels even faster than hydraulic brakes, waiting for that to happen before upgrading.

[@davidjames-rp6oi]

i have a 26x13/8 roadster and the wheels are stainless steel rims, the gearhub is marked 1947, so i guess thats how old the rims are! guess what? theyre as good as the day they were made!

[@mortonbeard2240]

Discs are a gimmick. Rube Goldburg Machines.

[@EM-wd2vg]

I have both and there’s no doubt discs are better, especially on my winter bike in the wet. On my dry weather bike (yes we all have them) rim brakes are fine. We are fortunate that equipment now is better than it’s ever been, It’s called progress but if you listened to most of the old school we’d all still be riding cane rims and twin sprockets.

[@27bikebrothers27]

rim brakes are great love them

[@phila9288]

Any data to share?

[@pravinabendumaniya4402]

Which Brakes?

[@semmymaxxy3075]

Funny Ollie Gray said how resilient carbon brake tracks are. Hunt told me my rims were goosed after under 2000 miles and offered no solution.

[@rodrickdemunnik4582]

At least 10 out of 11 of these things also apply to disc brakes, with the added disadvantage that you cannot solve it yourself and need to go to a mechanic.

[@michaelviglianco6121]

Wearing out your rims was literally the first thing "they" told me

[@matthewlewis2072]

02:09 "steel used to be common" It was, and it was horrific. In the wet...🤕

[@neilrushworth5958]

What are rotors made from? Tells you something.

[@sBentonfamily]

Ridden rim brakes with aluminum wheels over 40 years without wearing out any rim routinely over 5000 miles per year. Undoubatably a quality disc brake bike will stop faster particularly when wet. However how many hundreds of thousands of miles have been ridden in grand tours with rim vs disc brakes. Proving that with the best riders in the world under the most challenging conditions, rim brakes are safe. Look at the recent Tour of the Basque Country. Several of the world’s top riders crashed with serious injuries using disc brakes. I contend, they crashed BECAUSE of disc brakes. Riders now approach curves faster expecting their disc brakes to save them. However, this requires more rapid handling under dangerous conditions placing increased stress on the weakest link, tire adhesion. Maneuvering downhill curves with rim brakes required setting up for corners sooner yielding a longer period to adapt to the road. Diving into fast downhills elbow to elbow is now increasingly risky.More will crash and be injured suckered into overcooking corners depending on late braking with disc brakes to save them. Mercyx, Hinnault, Indurain all won 5 TDF with rim brakes. Do disc brakes make today’s riders safer, or less safe?

[@ltrtg13]

I used to have steel rims a LONG time age. You could buy brake blocks that would improve the braking by having a piece of leather on the block. It was OK until a piece of leather came away from the block. My alloy rims have lasted over 20 years. They have for 3 reasons. 1) They have a ceramic coating on the braking track. 2) They have over time been stored in the loft as they are practically deadly in the wet. There is not coefficient of drag when they first get wet. Then when the brake block can connect with the rim. It's maximum uncontrolled braking as the rear is locked and 100% of the braking is done using the front wheel.3) I will never use those deadly rims when it's wet. Until I can get a disc road bike I will be having a set of wheels rebuilt with 100% alloy rims.

[@draugmithrin]

My first roadbike had a gaspipe frame and steel rims, was a nightmare getting it to brake, had to use my shoe rubber on many occasions.

[@BleakVision]

Coefficent of friction you mean?

[@peterwillson1355]

Not my experience of ceramic rims AT ALL. They work brilliantly in the wet and dry. Maybe you used the wrong pads. Some people just aren't experienced at braking in the wet because they are fair weather cyclists. Who on earth would think it's a good idea to use the FRONT brake in the wet!!😂

[@timtaylor9590]

most of the time ppl break is not needed. all of my rims fail before the track wears out. i'v been on the same set of pads for 5 years and the rims have long since failed.

[@timtaylor9590]

i add oils and wax to my carbon brake track to reduce friction, so they dont bite so much.

[@seanbarman]

When a new disc in the uk is not much difference in price than a carbon rim brake rim from china ill continue to rebuild my wheels. Disc brakes are for mountain bikes

[@junzafra5618]

Rim brakes are easy for DIY

[@ErikT.-cf1jz]

In over 30 years of racing / riding I've never heard of anyone wearing down their rim brake wheels to the point that they needed to be replaced . Not one. People ride Eroica on 40+ year old rim wheels with no complaints. How is this even a "thing" that should be mentioned?

[@nwadillargue]

The disc brake is pretty much safer Last time i otb because my rim brake in the front instantly brake even tho i am not braking

[@BleakVision]

Carbon wheels are unsafe.

[@dmitryhetman1509]

Disc brakes are not aero, disc brakes are heavier, frame for disc brakes have to be reinforced on mount points so frame is heavier, thru axle can be heavier

[@rangersmith4652]

Underlying message: Disk brakes are better because if you're still riding rim brakes you aren't buying an overpriced disk brake bike from one of makers that help "influencers" make money. In the wet, a rider, especially a non-pro, has to ride differently: look further down the road, control speed, brake sooner, etc. In the wet, an overconfident disc brake rider will easily have way more ability to stop the wheel rotating than he or she has grip on the road. Locking up a wheel is way worse than a small loss of braking power. The supposed "demand" for disk brakes isn't natural demand; it is _induced_ demand. The world tour teams are all riding disk brakes (as well as motorized shifting, through-axles, integrated cockpits, wider tires, hidden cabling, etc.) because they're being ordered to do so by their bike suppliers. Non-pros see all this "tech," UCI says it has to made available to them, and they lap it up. The claim that disk brake bikes and frames grossly outsell rim brake bikes and frames is true, but not because of high demand; rather, it's because of low supply.

[@humanvoicemail5059]

Brake pads are not expensive… it’s like $12 for a pair lmao

[@timtaylor9590]

this is pure propaganda who payed for this video, the uci?

[@roadcc]

Is it propaganda if you make a video on each? 😅 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYuQpoCfm5ueoK8

[@lordkambing810]

disc rotors and pads are cheap?? and rim brake pads expensive? are you effing kidding me?? LoLoLoL

[@roadcc]

you don't spend an awful lot of time buying rotors, though. and rotors are cheaper than rims!

[@lordkambing810]

lol, rim or discs, cyclists specially westeners buy new bikes and wheelsets every year when the new paint scheme come out. so your argument is false.

[@davido8086]

Unsubbed 😂 rim brake for the win

[@iann23]

Watching this after stage 16 of Giro, had to put it on mute after hearing Hugh Carthy descending like a scared giraffe on Kilimanjaro. Disc brakes squealing so loud you could hear them through the moto camera behind him. You could see him wishing he had rim brakes just for the peace and quiet in such serene landscapes.

[@gb4408]

The pads are sacrificial. Get a grip.

[@thedronescene7474]

My Enve 4.5 have 20K miles and the brake track is in perfect condition. Also Enve textured track brakes harder than any alu wheel.

[@PedroNord]

It’s amazing how many imaginary problems there are in this world.

[@daniellarson3068]

Yes - I read many comments herein from people well satisfied with rim brakes. I add to this my own experience. It sure does seem like a money making ploy.

[@timtaylor9590]

hmm i never noticed inconsistent breaking

[@jackbnimbleist]

Nuts and bolts for front suspension

[@piliganor]

This sounds like a paid service announcement...

[@blekfut5763]

All this content is manipulation. "Pads can be expensive", LOL, but DISC pads ARE much more expensive!

[@seansims8805]

I came to say this ...the more expensive your disc system or groupset the more expensive the service and it's way more than rim to install service and maintain....with more vulnerability for service need....rims on and off its only what conditions ya ride and how often / style of riding that makes your maintaining time super predictable

[@stfu6397]

I will never ride a disc brake ever, like NEVER

[@BM-xm1zz]

Where is durianrider!

[@dhanso928]

Are you being paid to push disc brakes? A lot of what you are saying is pretty biased.

[@roadcc]

We have done the same video about the negatives of disc brakes, so we think that's pretty balanced

[@ivans3165]

This is most awful review this page ever put out. Sold out to marketing is the sake of profit. What a nonsense about rim being expensive ?!? How about disc being expansive and needs to be adjusted all the time ? Costs 100$ at the bike shop. Right brake pads ? Like one for alu another for carbon ? So many choices I'm stunned. And what you don't need to look out after disc brakes ??!?!? Rim tech is stalling or getting stalled by channels like this ???

[@roadcc]

If your bike shop is charging you $100 to adjust your brakes, you might want to find yourself another bike shop :-)

[@user-xh7rz6sh7t]

Omg. Shilling for the new bikes that ONLY COME with disc brakes. I’ve been riding my 2013 BH Ultralight with rim brakes and Rolf Ares 4 wheels and there has NEVER been a time when I said, “I realllly need disc brakes”. Cut the nonsense trying to make newer riders think they have to have discs. THIS is why the industry is going to hell. Newer riders can’t afford to get into the sport because of the extra expense that you push. STOP.

[@CoolGrey7Man]

Push the disc brakes way don't you! You are part of the problem with pushing the costs up of bikes and parts.

[@theunknownone5663]

Coster brakes all the way.

[@billkallas1762]

I've never worn out a rim. The only time I ride in the rain is in a race. Disc brakes are great for racing in the rain. I raced from 1985 to 2017. That last year, I only had one rainy race, where a few riders had disc brakes. I got gapped in every turn of the criterium. The three top riders with disc brakes finally got away from me, because of my rim brakes. When everyone had rim brakes, there was no advantage. Disc brakes might be necessary in the UK, since it rains 200 days a year, but I get it three or four days a month.