11-Year-Old Arrested, Named, & Shamed Over School Shooting Threat, But Critics Say This Goes Too Far

[@grammarwitter]

I have a child in Volusia County, FL, where Chitwood is sheriff. I picked her up after one of those lockdowns from her middle school, where a shooting threat happened. Her face was red and puffy from sobbing in the corner with her friends. They had written their addresses on their arms and love messages to me and their parents. One of my friends said her child kept texting "I love you" over and over again. That child's brother was hiding in the classroom's closet. I applaud Chitwood for taking this seriously and trying to get a message through to these kids making false threats. It's. Not. A. Joke.

[@mailenjokerbell]

No child should go through this mental trauma over some kids "joke". This is insane, parents need to parent their children. How the hell is this ok to joke about? I bet that kid had already shown signs at home.

[@DezzyLepez]

This brought me to tears. I’m so terrified to have kids and school shootings are a huge reason why I stay hesitant. I can’t imagine dealing with this as a parent 💔

[@luminousparadox7529]

Exactly why his approach was needed. Although over in Britain we dont have the guns. When I was young the problem was knifes. But even those who would use them were shit scared of the social and legal consequences, so hardly ever did. And as you stated, the trauma everyone goes through in a lockdown because of a threat is something no child should suffer ❤

[@Shart-santha]

My heart goes out to you and your family. Even if it was “just a threat” and nothing happened I’m so so so sorry yall had to experience that. I’m not a parent yet but I literally don’t know what I’d do if I experienced that. I remember being a kid in the 90s/00s and any time we had a lock down it was kinda scary, I couldn’t imagine what children are experiencing now. What you wrote made me immediately tear up.🖤 I’m sending you and your family all of the love🖤.

[@SkunkApe407]

I'm over in Oviedo, and my daughter's school was affected, as well. I'm with Sheriff Chitwood on this.

[@Rickyfyied]

Joke or not, other kids don't find this funny. Kids are scared of it really happening. I like that kids are being held accountable. I think parents should be too

[@NickCombs]

It breaks my heart what our kids are going through these days. I can't imagine adding that threat on top of everything else I was going through in school.

[@NeonJ1]

To be fair. Kids are the one doing this as a joke and laughing. So kids are finding it funny, despite it not being funny.

[@andreaskeltwolfe6176]

back when i was in school there was a threat and i didnt show up for the next 3 days

[@Confron7a7ion7]

And, while I don't think this will discourage actual violence, discouraging false threats should in theory free up resources for identifying real ones.

[@ughicanteven5896]

​@@NeonJ1 key word: OTHER kids. That means the kids that aren't making the jokes don't find it funny.

[@Feralfr0gg]

I’m from Escambia county and just this past week we’ve had three threats to schools. It blows my mind that this is an actual conversation parents need to have with their kids, but it needs to be done. This isn’t a prank or just shit talking, it is a felony offense that will follow you.

[@imnezu8940]

It blows your mind that a parent have to have this conversation? Why lmfao kids are very impressionably and they are two young to really understand the consequences of doing this. Are you ever around kids or do you even remember being one? lmfao.

[@OMEGATHENIETZCHIAN]

My highschool had a year where we had over 30 bomb threats from kids trying to cut class. The difference? I live in Ontario, Canada where you don't have bomb stores on every corner.

[@CourtneyRC]

@@imnezu8940no kid i have ever known would think it's funny to threaten to harm ppl, at 11 or 17, they know what they're doing. making excuses for them only encourages that behavior

[@CC-qx7hk]

It won't follow you but it is serious. Anyway once you turn 18 you can seal anything. Sure you can't work for the FBI but that's honestly a good thing.

[@joech1z]

Have you never heard of a place called Gaza????!!???

[@HouseMDaddict]

I work in mental health in a hogh school. We take any threat of homicide or suicide seriously and we evaluate the kids for initial findings and get them taken to be evaluated by professionals in a hospital setting. Us taking it seriously every time over the years has really cut down on the kids that "joke". The amount of parents that wash their hands of their kids at 16 with an "i tried my best for 16 years and now theyre too big for me to control." Or "theyre 16 and practically an adult, theyre responsible for their own behavior" is just mindblowing to me, abd then those same parents are blowing up office phones at marking periods when theyre kid is failing asking us why their kid is failing 🤷🏻‍♀️. Parents have only been getting worse.

[@kellyfish920]

As a parent I don’t understand how you see your kids stock piling weapons and go “this is totally acceptable behavior”?

[@Mr.JoeMontanya]

It's Florida Lol

[@sparklelikeaghost]

The parents are the ones supporting and fostering this behavior

[@joech1z]

They probably have more but obv less than what the goverment has to use

[@curiouslytot1950]

People who are into airsoft usually have tons of airsoft weapons. Thats pretty normal for that bunch. The swords and knives is where I would be concerned.

[@zolmation]

The majority of parents out there have no business being in charge of another person.

[@WhoLetTheDogOut]

Not just students, I literally had a customer in scrubs threaten to 🔫 up our restaurant because her cookies didn't come out fresh. She had her kid with her trying to get her to calm down, but she just kept going on and on.

[@ItsMzPhoenix]

What the fuck

[@4o4o4]

Everyone is wound up so tight in this country right now. I can barely get a days errands done without seeing someone having a meltdown at a register or in a parking lot.

[@iloveplasticbottles]

I feel like her cookies not being fresh is the top of a shit pile

[@Kuchhh]

It’s really sad that some kids are brought into this world by awful, shitty parents, and then they’re stuck with them.

[@hwoods-kg1jf]

@@Kuchhh some people (I will go as far as to say MOST people) SHOULD NOT PROCREATE!!! I got my tubes tied 10 years ago and been with my partner for 14 years. We discussed early on that kids would not be in our future and also we both are disabled and I have pretty serious health issues that would make pregnancy very dangerous and possibly deadly for me so that's how I got a doctor to agree to do it the day before my 31st birthday 10 years ago. It's unfortunate that people don't take their reproductive health into their own hands and before making children actually thinking to themselves, "Would I actually be a good parent?" Most people don't REALLY think about that before having children unfortunately. I knew since I was a kid I didn't want kids! I have a cat and he's enough for me and doesn't throw tantrums or talk back! LOL!

[@LocalMcGee]

As a fashion major. Do not use ai to help with your designs. Not bc “it’s the easy way out” but bc those designs are no longer your own but the ai companies. We had a speaker warning us last semester

[@CaptainSoftboy501]

Huh.... I wonder if that's why companies want creators to use their ai softwares? To say they should be able to get a cut of whatever the user makes? It hadn't crossed my mind until now that you've said it.

[@devfren]

I think only Adobe are trying to do this. If you really wanna play it safe you can use an open source model and run it offline. I’d be more concerned about the ai company training their models on your designs

[@ajay.gillig]

Lol.. "fashion major"

[@LocalMcGee]

@@ajay.gillig “yea I can tell there are a lot of foreign accounts trying to aggregate ppl” lmfaooooo im specializing in textile management and sustainability but fashion major sounds way cooler ✋🏻🤪🤚🏻

[@LocalMcGee]

@@devfren thank you for the advice! I personally have not used it to design but useful info fs!

[@Joginthepark]

As a teacher, shame them. I don't know what's going on this year, but my school has had 5+ school shooting threats in the first 5 weeks of school. It's out of hand. Parents and students need to he held accountable.

[@lggr2261]

Teachers are the root cause of problem

[@Aragedie]

My 13 yr old daughters school was shut down Tuesday bc of a 'snapchat threat' and had 2 drills wed and today. My kid is so scared to attend school. She has already had to be interviewed TWICE by detectives for overhearing kids' talk shiz about shooting the school (and those kid's were only suspended) making lists of people who need to d*e, etc. It's f*cking awful. We get an email or text at least once a month with these issues. She is only in the 8th grade. Our kids shouldn't be scared at school PERIOD. The kids who make these idiotic and dangerous threats need to be held accountable. My daughter is 13, but she knows better than to say or post anything like that. These kids are constantly in a flight or fight mode, and it makes it hard for them to focus on LEARNING. 😢

[@freedomishavingachoice3020]

It's almost like instant uploads from unmoderated anonymous kids online was always a poor idea.

[@samw8128]

😊

[@cherrybomber69]

​@@freedomishavingachoice3020 its the society these kids are raised in

[@joywood3947]

Sounds like Pasco county this week. I don't think the kids have done any learning this week because of all this crap.

[@freedomishavingachoice3020]

@joywood3947 do we bear any blame for allowing lying children to create social media accounts? We never made laws to hold platforms liable for hosting lying children. Technically this is a strip mall and we know we snuck into Tumblr when we weren't of age. It was easy. Snapchat is just as easy. How much of this is on us for wanting these anonymous unmoderated spaces?

[@pablohawkeye395]

High school teacher here. One of my students made a Snapchat based school threat and was suspended for the week. It is looking like he may be back in my class on Monday with little to no consequences despite the anxiety he has caused me and other students with his bs

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

That poor child. With a teacher like you I can only imagine why he's pushing buttons.

[@LesageSinging]

There should be ramifications or forced check ins with therapists/cps but the idea of charging children with felonies and parading them in public as an alternative for gun control is insane to me.

[@Kehman86]

This is another thing that make me divided on the good idea / bad idea scale. To make these kind of "jokes" and not be punished dosen't make the issue go away. But I seem to always go back to that being ridiculed in all forms of media might make the joke into a reality. But something truly has to be done because this can't continue. And you being a teacher I just want to apilogize for my poor grammar that might make you squirm. On the plus side english isn't my mothers tongue 😅 With that said, have an amazing weekend and take care.

[@BackstabberDD]

@@LesageSinging I think we should have both? Because the fact that kids see this as a joke clearly illustrates this as a societal problem, not just a gun problem anymore.

[@Nabesima]

Suspension is such a bizarre "punishment", imo. It was not practiced in my school, so every time I hear about it I'm rather baffled. Kids who act like this generally hate being in school, so their consequence for acting up is... less school? Falling behind in studies, making it MORE difficult to get their brain cells together? How's that supposed to work, exactly?

[@antimetricsystem]

My friend just told me that a kid in his school yelled "I have a gun!" in the middle of class and got arrested. (Edit - Damn, didn't expect this to blow up)

[@elvalight2135]

How stupid are these kids, seriously

[@joech1z]

A black kid at my school got arrested for shouting cracker and inciting violence.

[@unkowntaco965]

@Ksksissh-n8k lmfao imma subscribe to yo mamas of

[@thepotatosky]

Good! Just because you're free to say whatever you want it doesn't mean that you're exempt of the consequences of what you say.

[@Keezybeats]

Your friend is lying

[@Nicole_B_24]

As someone who works in emergency services in Australia, all I can say is good on that sheriff for taking a stand against hoax calls. Especially for something that I can only imagine is as real and terrifying as a mass shooting. What these kids need to understand is services have to take every threat seriously, which means diverting multiple emergency resources away from people who ACTUALLY need it. These people that call in hoax threats need to understand the real world repercussions and if that takes naming and shaming the kids and their parents then so be it!

[@polarisdraws404]

I'm so glad they're finally taking action on such serious threats! Kids have to understand that it's nothing to joke about. Like what kind of mental thoughts have to be going through your mind to make you think it's acceptable to do that? I commend that sheriff, wholeheartedly.

[@nighthasfallen456]

Honestly, i think the parents need to be named and shamed more than the kids due to utterly failing their child by such young ages that they would treat something like that as a joke.

[@rhegan5227]

in the original video the cop said he’d perp walk the parents too if i remember correctly.

[@Beefytiing]

he literally said he would perp walk the parents as well if he finds out they had any knowledge. honestly, shame them both, parents and child. Child won't learn if only his parents are shamed.

[@maimee1]

Right? Not sure if this makes them less likely to become one or more likely to become one. Could very well be either way. (Commenting again cause I don't know if I triggered the filter words or not.)

[@PsychedelicMeatball]

Agreed

[@elvalight2135]

Agreed, like I love dark humor but even I knew as a kid joking about fucking shooting people wasn't ok, especially posed as an actual threat, like COME ON

[@ethangossard1119]

I was victim to a false school shooting threat. A kid had called the threat in on a dare and the entire school was locked down immediately. I was taking an AP exam at the time and they literally told everybody to stop and to hide in the back of the library(where we were taking the exam). It was a horrible experience. Students stood for hours in a cramped room, thinking that at any minute a person could come in and kill everyone. My mom heard about the lockdown and tried to call me but my phone was taken away during the exam so she thought I migh'tve already been dead. It was an absurdly stressful and traumatic experience. There were kids breaking down and crying, muffling their sobs with their jackets because they were afraid a gunman might hear them. There was a bunch of police officers at the school and they even brought a helicopter. Even though no shots were taken and no gunman was ever seen, people were stressed out and nobody could lower their guard until they left the school. The kid who did wasn't even a person who had mental health issues, he was a relatively popular guy and everybody thought he was super funny. He just did it at a whim on a dare to make 2 kids laugh and it caused so many people so much harm. He was charged with making a false crime report and all three kids were charged with conspiracy. He might've been joking but it cost the community a lot and made everybody angry. Most states don't require parents to pay for a hoax so the taxpayers just took a huge hit and everybody was enraged at the guy. What sucks is that I don't know if public shaming would stop that from ever happening again. Some kids just want to cause chaos and ruin people's lives and they aren't mature enough to realize the consequences. This is just a fact of life when you're living in a country without much gun control. The only solution would be better gun control laws and even then it might not stop at all until guns are outright banned, which will literally never happen.

[@zwenkwiel816]

You are so right, like I don't live in the US and when I was in high school some kid made a threat to get out of an exam or something. Evacuating the school was kind of a hassle but no1 was really afraid because over here these threats are pretty much always fake. People just don't have easy access to guns so mass shootings isnt really a thing we have to fear at all...

[@sandywave4971]

That unfortunately sounds great actually because everyone practiced safety, and no one d***! I’m sorry for your stress though. But imagine another kid who was daydreaming about it when they have bad days. The practice easily could have helped them. A lot of kids learn what they do and don’t want to do from observations. Even though it can be horrible to practice the boundaries around …boundaries. It can be the thing that gives people knowledge and a deterrence for -> the boundaries. Especially for kids who don’t understand consequences yet. They need practice learning how to see fences and not run directly into them/k•••ing people before learning consequences. Especially when kids don’t even know yet that death is a permanent thing.

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

" I was once a victim of a school shooting threat" is hilarious

[@althyastar]

I'm so sorry you had to go through that. That experience sounds terrible, I think I would be traumatized for life tbh

[@yashbhuiya7156]

I agree. There is an actual downward correlation of states with stricter gun laws having lower levels of casualties involved in shootings. Like California and New York, despite what I see on the news, are actually near the bottom of the list of shooting casualties due to their strict gun laws. It shows that gun control actually works, who woulda thought?

[@greenfox42]

As a child of the 90’s and in school during Columbine, they told us bomb and gun threats towards the schools would get us arrested even as minors…not sure how legal that minors being arrested as well, but they NEVER joked about the repercussions of such an act, even if it was a “prank” or fake. They even showed off their phone tech and even traced calls back to kids that did it at a nearby school and arrested them. If this is what it takes for today’s apathetic generation of kids, then way to walk the talk to that police district!

[@greenfox42]

Also just calling out all the clips shown during this segment of the arrested threat shooters….are all white males. Interesting how so many innocent black individuals are shot on site yet majority of school terrorizers/shooters are white males who either kill themselves during their rampage or are arrested, live and well. Truly mind blowing how obviously biased and corrupt our systems are

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

Naw zero tolerance just made it worse

[@Moon_x_sun]

I live in Denmark Weve only had one School shooting. In 2017 when i was in 9th grade a threat was made against a school. And quite shortly afterwards a 16year old student of the School was arrested bc of the threat and he Said that he didnt Think it was that serious and that he hadnt thought of the consequenses. Even tho that here in Denmark We have only had one actual School shooting We take those threats seriously. And once in a while (almost once a year i Think) someone gets arrested for making threats against schools (either shootings or bombing or others) Threats like that should not be taken lightly even if it was a “joke”

[@bewareofsasquatch]

It’s cause kids would make “jokes” in their friend group but now they’re posting it online. Also cause real shootings are happening a lot that they’re jumping on the bandwagon and think it’s edgy and “funny” to make those jokes. I remember being a kid making 9/11 jokes. A lot of people were. But social media that massive so we didn’t hear these “jokes” from people outside of your friend group.

[@lukeseguin1875]

You are completely full of crap. Kids in the 90s absolutely joked about school shootings. Nice selective listening which makes you better than the next generation. OK boomer, no millennial did this. Lmfao. Of course we did.

[@RitaPMoore]

On that first story, as an Australian, I simply can't fathom how awful it must be to constantly have the threat of school shootings hanging over your head. Threats should be taken seriously, but the fact that kids are making these threats "as a joke" is so sad.

[@chiidora]

It's kinda not funny but something given how when I was in hs it was pushed we were all dangerous thugs so we had cameras, police and metal detectors and none of our inner city school children fear a school shooting..the walk to school that's different 😅 but the pta all said they didn't want their suburb kids going to school and thinking of it as a prison 🫠

[@csmith6583]

You should've seen FL after parkland. My whole county went on lockdown in 4/20/2018 (anniversary of columbine) bc of a kid at a near by high school almost shooting up a school but stoping himself after one shot. You can see the police body can if you look up the date plus Forest high school

[@SkunkApe407]

As an American, I don't see why anyone else thinks we care what you think. You have your own problems to address. Worry about those. Maybe if our "allies" spent more time and money on their own militaries and defense spending, we could take a step back and look at other issues. Many of our struggles at home are due to carrying so much deadweight on a global stage. If you really care, tell your government to get off the pot and drag their own load.

[@SkylarLee643]

⁠@@SkunkApe407I’m an American. You’ve clearly fallen for the propaganda of our government and it’s sad.

[@SkunkApe407]

@@SkylarLee643 I've fallen for nothing, child. I was fighting a war before you stopped shitting mustard. I've seen the world for what it is, and seen the reality you and those like you have been to sheltered and privileged to face for yourselves. You've done nothing, seen nothing, and stand atop the graves of better men, who died to give you the right to speak such ignorance with the security and freedom you take for granted. You're a dwarf, standing astride the shoulders of giants, convinced you can fly.

[@dannygerous]

Hey! Software security professional here. The danger with IoT isn’t necessarily hackers getting access to your fridge or toaster themselves, but it’s more with how device store your network credentials and how they connect to other device/your network. Some of these devices don’t even bother to encrypt your WiFi password.

[@BirdyIsWatchIn]

Alawys put those devices on a guest network with a password

[@latenighter1965]

Encrypt??? If you are in security then just stating that is false hope. Some of the best teams and anti hacking softwares has been hacked. the US Govt got hit, they hold the licenses for some of the best and they still got hit. It doesnt matter what you do, if they want in they will get in.

[@AJUZU2k-gy8yj]

Storing creds in plain text is bad but what would they do with your wifi password? Like to get that far they would already have access to your network or be in your physical location

[@feha92]

tbf, the toaster might actually be a danger in itself. I can absolutely imagine it being possible limits to the heat output is in software, and possible to disable. Making it a fire starter. And if not? Just turn it on anyway and hope for there to be something flammable close enough that a couple hours of max output starts something.

[@sws212]

@@latenighter1965 That applies to anything and everything, the issue is whether or not it's worth their time. The US govt got hacked because group with a large amount of resources hacked them. You protect yourself to the best extent reasonable, make it harder for a moron to hack you but don't expect a super genius to bother.

[@TheViveros]

As a content creator, the very last thing I need from KZbin is AI bullshit clogging everything up even more than it already is. The biggest challenge that I face on this platform is that I have to compete with people who just churn out low-effort garbage to flood the algorithm, because not only does the algorithm favour channels that do constantly pump out content, but I also have to find a way to get onto people’s pages and convince them I’m not doing that. Making good content takes time, especially if it’s commentary, and the people who care about the content they’re making won’t use these tools to begin with. All these AI tools will do is make it even easier for people to flood the platform with low-effort meaningless garbage, drowning out real creators who put in real effort. The platform is already swamped with tons of “creators” who get AI to generate scripts, voices, and images/videos for their Shorts - it sucks and it makes it so much harder for the actually talented creators on the platform to get their foot in the door. KZbin should be cracking down on this shit, not enabling it. There are a lot of things that KZbin could do to make this platform better instead of this, but if *this* is what they’re doing with their share of the ad revenue content creators are generating, I’d honestly settle for a better revenue split so I can spend the money I earn on making my content better instead of handing it over to a company that’s just going to spend it on the automated theft machine.

[@Tehblood]

Google seems to be really intent on forcing ai. same issue with search as well.

[@KABOBkabob]

none of that garbage is sustainable so I'm not sweating it. It'll just be annoying to see it pop up in my feed. if you're really set on making a living with youtube, brain rot ai content is not going to be the factor that makes or breaks it. if youre just doing it for fun, which you should be, then who cares?

[@kingofpigs6630]

Hi viveros!

[@dmug]

Another smaller creator here. AI slop is just encouraging low effort content. Adding to the slop isn’t the answer.

[@Zutia]

Didn't expect to find a video essay channel to check out in Phil's comments!

[@maeserr]

I live in a town of about 2000 people. We have a group of teenagers who are out of control. Theft, vandalism, threats, violence. They're banned from every store and restaurant. They beat a 13yo who "looked at them funny" and one even attacked a 4yo. Only one parent is trying to control their child but the other parents just say "if my kid is really so bad then arrest them". And the police do... but they are teens. They're released right back to parents who don't care. So the city and police are trying to figure out how to hold parents accountable. It's literally the only way to get parents to control their kids.

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

You hold them accountable by holding them accountable if they wouldn't have reproduced, their child never would have been able to do crimes.Therefore , all those crimes are the fault of the parent inherently

[@obvv7714]

Only 2000 people? That group must be inbred that far in the middle of nowhere💀

[@calamity0.o]

I ponder which economic group this would impact most. Probably a lot of single mothers without the father's aura to guide male children. I ponder how some may take this as discriminatory or disproportionately impacting minority and low income groups.

[@GreySoul-k5z]

​@@calamity0.o Dude lives in a town of 2000 people. They are probably all white Mr. Economic genius.

[@Ryditoes]

@@calamity0.othat is not what bro is talking about 😶

[@speckofdignity2487]

I’m a manager at a shop within sprinting distance of a huge high school, we have lots of regulars that are students and teachers and the amount of times I have thought about what I would have to do if there was an “issue” at that school and what I would be able to do to help both my customers but also my coworkers, is terrifying. I can’t imagine how scared those students and teachers are on the daily

[@HardhatBambi]

I remember being taught why you dont pull the fire alarm, after a kid did it in elementary school. It costs around 20'000 to respond code 3 for fire trucks. Its also hard on their systems. Theyre preparing to go into battle, but stopped despite the adrenaline flowing. Even people being caught smoking in some buildings, are then found responsible for the cost of response. The ripples of incident stress, runs deeps, past dispatchers and everything

[@Snartfoodler]

A kid did this in my school and had to spend 6 months in therapy lol

[@LilacBadger]

@@Snartfoodlerlmfao!

[@MarkAmaro]

What?! Obliterating little pieces of lead in an enclosed space over and over again causes lead poisoning? Who could have seen this coming?

[@sarahpanther1491]

On that first story, as an Australian, I simply can't fathom how awful it must be to constantly have the threat of school shootings hanging over your head. Threats should be taken seriously, but the fact that kids are making these threats "as a joke" is so sad.

[@Li-Fu7]

Such is the cost of freedom.

[@sonjanaugler244]

As a Canadian we live just next door and I cant understand it either.

[@moonlitmortician6694]

Eh. You kinda go numb after a while. Last I was actually afraid of getting shot was...jeez, 2016, I think?

[@RuralProgressive]

@@Li-Fu7 words like this are deeply ignorant

[@kadewilliams7081]

@@Li-Fu7 I hope that’s a joke

[@cameronfield4617]

The fact that Nintendo has been sitting on this for so long tells me that they have been trying to work out what they can effectively sue them on It seems like they wanted to earlier but didnt know exactly what to sue them on

[@mandyycandyy]

I'm in St Johns Cty in north FL and my kid's HS has had 2 threats this week alone - 1 real and 1 "joke." I am totally for this name & shame, including parents. The fear my kid fears at school is unacceptable.

[@IIITheDeadGamerIII]

naming and shaming kids doesn't work.

[@GoufinAround_]

There are a shockingly large number of Union construction workers who support Trump. Trump who is anti-Union. My dad was a Union Steamfitter in NYC for decades and back in the day when the apprentice was on tv, he would yell at the tv because Trump and his companies would try to sue their way out of paying contractors for work that was already done over bs excuses and would constantly try to avoid hiring Union shops to work on/build their buildings.

[@zangarootoo]

if you don’t mind me asking, why do you/your dad think that is? tbh ive noticed some embedded ‘traditionalist’ attitudes have influenced older unions (like, not starbucks store unions for example) even with changes that are similar to policy shifts in other areas, despite the city i live in being very liberal/left-leaning.

[@zangarootoo]

(not saying that’s definitely the cause for the lack of support at all either, and ive only worked adjacent to/alongside unions, + very briefly at that, so i could be totally off!)

[@wmdkitty]

Construction workers aren't known for intelligence...

[@kingofpigs6630]

On top of Trump's background there's also that as a rule of thumb the more on the right a party is the more anti worker and anti union they are.

[@gregvs.theworld451]

Yeah, neither Phil nor the teamsters president was saying it, but I wondered how much of the lukewarm support for Harris among union workers is just the classic racism/sexism one-two from union good old boys. That said, I'm not letting Kamala off the hook if she indeed hasn't pledged to be on the side of union workers.

[@kainzor100]

Parents dont raise their kids anymore, my friend is a teacher and the amount of horror stories she tells me and how little the parents care and think schools should raise their kids for them instead of just teaching them is out of control.

[@chere100]

Parents don't have time to raise their kids anymore, so that's part of the problem, but agreed.

[@kainzor100]

@@chere100 Right the issue arises when the teachers tell you your kids being horrible and ppl seemingly could care less. If you are gonna have kids you are gonna have to raise them at some point. I do understand as a kid of a single mom. But they have to try.

[@Real_Kirbo]

this is how i feel about deadly internet challenges aswell, if your kid gets sick from eating a tide pod, thats on you, not tiktok

[@MadCityVL]

Nah its always been bad, just different types.

[@kainzor100]

@@MadCityVL I mean the issue is the internet as a whole changed. People livestream themselves doing crimes and you got all these little kids watching thinking its cool. It use to be ppl would get beat up and parents didnt care now you got people doing challenges getting them selves killed or getting stuck in these bad influence rabbit holes and do something terrible. Parents need to control what their kids consume online.

[@JoJosWorld]

As someone who gained TONS of subscribers from KZbin shorts (basically by accident) but doesn’t benefit from that new subscriber pool on my long form videos. The hype feature makes me sad because I don’t consider myself a “big” KZbin channel, yet with this new system I’ll be classified as a bigger channel. I average 15 to 20k views, I know I’m in a weird minority and I’m grateful for what I have but hype is definitely interesting to say the least! Figured I’d share my weird perspective 😂

[@route2070]

"It is just a joke bro," while comedy is subjective, no, threats are not a joke. There's been too many joke posts. My sister's kids school, a reservation school where I went to college, a few schools a couple of towns from where I went to high school, and many others have had this issue over the 2 or 3 few weeks.

[@Jthewoods153]

It’s what the Georgia shooter actually said

[@freyjathehealer5559]

Dark comedy has been around forever and it’s totally normal in every generation that kids would want to joke amongst friends about big fears. However, it’s not a joke anymore when it wastes real time and resources or makes people scared.

[@lumisussy]

Whether it is funny or not is irrelevant, exactly. You can make a threat as a joke, but the fact that it is a joke doesn't cancel out the fact that it's a threat.

[@Moon_x_sun]

Its in the same vein as those “its just a prank bro” when they actually just assaulted you. Like no its not “just” a prank/joke you broke the law you take the punishment. If you want to break the law you should also be ok with having to do time if you get caught.

[@lukeseguin1875]

Hold on yes this is absolutely subjective. Did the student call the school and say I'm going to come and go, or did he joke with someone at lunch about hating a class so much he'd rather go thru a school shooting. One of these justifies a legal response. The other does not. We still have freedom of speech in this country and if you don't think school admistrators exaggerate for sympathy like children do I have a bridge to sell you.

[@maria44688]

I used to be a teacher. I had a lot of students who were defiant, rude, disruptive, etc. But it was the adults that pissed me off. They'd make me feel crazy for believing the kids were capable of behaving better. I remember thinking to myself, "If there's a school shooting, I'm supposed to risk my life for these kids. And you don't think it's important to expect them to, oh I don't know, listen when I tell them to do something?"

[@ThatsJustDucky13]

Shaming the parents may be more effective than the kids. As a former teacher, I know kids that age will do ANYTHING for attention, and these arrests might backfire. I already saw a comment on this video about the potential of this becoming a new ticktock (spelling?) trend.

[@davada123]

I thought the same thing, there are plenty who would use footage of their own arrest as some sort of claim to fame

[@Elle_Like_The_Letter]

I remember being in class once and two of my classmates bragging about going to juvie...

[@aguy9071]

Shame and charge both. Parents need to raise their kids

[@wildfire9280]

Eh, it doesn’t deserve to be spelt correctly.

[@Adamant_Adam]

Great point made. I hadn't thought of that. On that note, wasn't that the ""Motive"" of the Parkland shooter? To be remembered for it? Tide Pods was all the rage when I was in highschool, I can unfortunately see this being a thing kids might do for attention, or a perceived need to either "fit in," or "stand out."

[@aliceblacc7986]

I think the police officer in the first story is actually on to something. Something needs to change to stop these kids from acting out and making threats. Get the parents too! I finished high school in 2016. We had to go through this so many times. It’s awful. No kid should go through it. We had one drill where my teacher wasn’t notified it was a drill so we thought it was real. We all thought we were going to die. It is hellish.

[@TheSUNGlassKid]

Two things about the changes for KZbin: I DON’T WANT AI IN MY PROGRAMS! Just let me bounce off of bad idea and bad idea and hire artists to make thumbnails for me. Two, feels like Hype could be abused by bigger organizations or creators to beat the smaller guys trying to make it.

[@howlingpantera22]

Hype literally doesn't work for people with more than 500k subs though?

[@jellytwins1018]

I think for the Hype feature, it's for channels with less than 500k subs, but I could still see it being abused

[@leftisthindrance]

@@howlingpantera22plenty of big channels have smaller offshoot channels to gain more views and advertisement. It can definitely be abused by them especially senior channels that know the game.

[@DaAvedes]

This kind of technology is only going to be more present. Rejecting it outright instead of looking to make it better will be a mistake.

[@leftisthindrance]

@@DaAvedes no most ai is just theft.

[@es0516]

This is insane. Kids are living with REAL trauma from threats and actual shootings happening almost DAILY. It’s one of the reasons why I’m leaning towards not having kids, because we can’t trust kids would be safe at school. I cannot imagine the fear, anger and frustration parents are feeling right now.

[@raistlinmajere7149]

This is a valid reason and you shouldn't feel ashamed of not wanting this burden on you.

[@feha92]

eh, it is all about priorities. You could either do as you plan, and forego the kid. ..or you could instead forego guns and move to a first-world country that bans them and have much better statistics.

[@okayno4045]

​@feha92 I'm just waiting for someone to respond to you and say "it's not the guns" despite other countries not dealing with mass shootings nearly as much as we do.

[@Jirangaaa]

@@okayno4045 yeah anyone who says that is full of it. America is the outlier in gun violence compared to the rest of the world and it’s really sad that the people living there don’t know that things can be better and safer for everyone. I never once felt unsafe in my Australian schools

[@justinS8522]

"Right now"? when have kids ever been safe in school, from WW1 to WW2 to the Cold War, Cuban missile crises, 9/11, recession, pandemic, kids have never nor in any close future will ever be safe in school or the world, they still deserve a chance, maybe they can do better than us and all that came before.

[@samsanimationcorner3820]

Talking about the firing range issue, my local gun range guy spent 50 years working as an engineer for Texas Instruments, so he went and designed a whole custom air conditioning and filtration system for his range, as well as a custom bullet catch system. And he keeps the bathrooms stocked with de-leading soap and has signs reminding people to wash their hands.

[@williambrown3699]

im afraid theres probably a pretty big overlap between the people who go to a range, and the kind of people who dont wash their hands. the venn diagram *isnt* a circle! but a lot of overlap for sure

[@livewirevoltage8550]

Public shaming is a tool that humans have used to shape society for as long as we've existed. We've abandoned it for the sake of "ending bullying" but all it did was take away the negative social pressures that you would normally receive for having anti-social behaviors. I'm 100% behind the perp walk strategy.

[@JR-if8yg]

Maybe also ban these kids and their parents to be able to buy/own any type of guns for the rest of their lives?

[@DozIT]

Wouldn’t a felony charge do his that?

[@ChildofVitalani]

That assumes there are sensible gun laws in place to support such an approach. Speaking as an Aussie who lives in a place that put its collective foot down after ONE hideous mass shooting (the Port Arthur Massacre, if you wanna look it up) I legitimately can't wrap my head around how people in the USA practically fetishize firearms and their 'right' to own one when mass shootings occur on a near-daily basis.

[@ShrimpInACoffin]

As if people can't learn from their mistakes and change

[@hobobaggins1142]

Felony. They can’t even vote now. They can’t seek public office. They can’t work a job related to the government. They can’t purchase firearms. Calm down.

[@JR-if8yg]

​@@DozITI don't live in the USA, I don't know all the laws and how they work, but it looks like it isn't enough since a guy charged for "possessing weapons of mass destruction" tried to kill Trump a few days ago.

[@lightningdj7181]

I am 100% in support of more punishments for school threats. The school I go to had a shooting a couple of years ago, while I didn’t attend at the time, I was deathly scared that my brother had been the student killed because we couldn’t get in contact with him. Last year, it felt like every other day half the students didn’t show up because there was another bomb or shooting threat. It got so normal that my parents stopped telling me when there was a threat. School is how I get 10 meals a week, so I can’t not go. One day there was a series of “more credible” threats, it almost shut down the school for the day. The seniors that made the threats were bragging about it the next day. It is unacceptable to waste the time of police officers who, while not perfect, are the best defense against acts of mass violence. All it takes is one crazy idiot to slip through the cracks for a tragedy to happen.

[@zwenkwiel816]

No it doesn't. All it takes is guns. This shit is not an issue ANYWHERE outside the US

[@Joenah5]

KZbin pushing AI slop is disgusting

[@elizabethcassidy8082]

Agreed. It's such a waste of energy and a mark of terrible creativity. I'll take a shitty MS paint drawing every time over AI trash. Now, if they were announcing AI tools for managing comment sections and moderating comments/stream chat, I would be all for it. But no, they advertise the useless creatively bankrupt crap.

[@ruekurei88]

@@elizabethcassidy8082Nah, no AI moderation, you’ll get your bot infested comment section that you’ll have to maintain by yourself and pay for some AI backgrounds and love it .

[@agentwashingtub9167]

I'm a competition shooter and I go through about 250 rounds per month at an indoor range. Lead exposure is absolutely a concern but it can be mitigated. I wear an N95 mask when I'm on the range, have dedicated range shoes I change into in the parking lot, wash my hands as soon as I get done, put my clothes in the washing machine as soon as I get home, and never put anything I take to the range on my bed or a surface I eat off of. Every two years I have my lead levels checked and despite going through 3,000 rounds per year inside I have no detectable lead levels

[@a_grape_in_space1016]

This is super interesting, thank you for sharing!! Never thought about lead exposure from firearms before.

[@agentwashingtub9167]

@@a_grape_in_space1016 Most people don't, not even shooters. Maybe because it isn't as much of an issue at outdoor ranges? The most the average shooter will do is wash their hands when they're done. For people raised with leaded gasoline it's not really a concern, the damage is done and those habits often get passed on but I think it's worth mitigating. A friend of mine had a habit of putting his range bag on his bed when he got home while he put stuff away. After 8 months he had elevated blood lead levels. That's an outlier case because most people don't sleep with the lead but still it shows that there is danger

[@SkunkApe407]

Look into compressed copper target rounds. We used them in our indoor ranges in the military. They basically turn into dust on impact, and don't toss lead into the air.

[@agentwashingtub9167]

@@SkunkApe407 Frangible ammo? I've thought about it but it's more pricy than the ball I usually shoot. Plus with everyone else shooting it would be a drop of copper in an ocean of lead

[@SkunkApe407]

@@agentwashingtub9167 for enough. I was given a buttload of the stuff for my M9, and have used it since. Haven't had to buy ammo for a while, so I can't exactly tell you what it costs these days. Prices change a lot in the time it takes to burn 50k rounds.😅

[@RitzStarr]

Honestly good to see these kids held accountable. These aren't "jokes". It isn't a "joke" to threaten to kill people in real life. The name and shame method is extremely effective with teens. If you see people your age being subjected to that, you are significantly less likely to copy them.

[@Kuchhh]

This won’t do anything. It’s the _parents_ who should be held accountable.

[@Boatanga]

Yes, mentally ill and disabled people respond to this extremely well. There’s absolutely no way it will reinforce their belief of feeling like an outsider or further push them into violence.

[@StillShade]

It is not effective. It makes things worse. We have research on this and I'm sick of idiots spreading misinformation.

[@corcoos]

You do realise, I hope, that's exclusively an US problem. The rest of the civilized world laugh at the idea of an 11 yo threatening a mass shooting.

[@ruralmetalhead]

@@Boatanga If they're threatening violence against others, they need to be contained. Do not bring disabled people into this as if we're some kind of scapegoat for your misguided savior syndrome.

[@nakk242]

A union voting for a republican ticket is a union voting for union busters like walmart. Hopefully they put new people in charge that realize this.

[@zackestin1368]

Teamsters is the only union to represent Amazon workers, why are people pretending they’re not just a fake union and always have been. They’re there to suck out union fees and do nothing productive.

[@GardenGuy1942]

~60% back Trump; ~30% back Harris. It’s what they want lol

[@MrDoverfield]

@@nakk242 how is union staying neutral bad again? Oh I forgot you’re either a die hard only vote democrat organization or the “enemy”. Why get union support regardless of which party is power when we can stay divided. No wonder young people in the United States are losing hope.

[@bluehairedvixen]

Honestly I’m with Chipwood for bring back shaming but it’s honestly it’s the parents that need to be shamed. They failed their children.

[@Sir_Psych]

People who know the kids, know who their parents are too.

[@JMOS]

This definitely isn’t true 100% of the time. Some kids with mental illnesses (and without) cannot be controlled by their parents in EVERY aspect of their life. That is simply impossible.

[@Beefytiing]

this is such a dumb take, shaming only the parents and not the child only enforces the child to keep doing dumb shit because their parents will be on the hook for it and not them.

[@RealLifeVlog]

In the case of the 11 year old I totally agree. but the older teens... come on common sense tells you this is not a good idea and that it's not funny.

[@Real_Kirbo]

@@RealLifeVlog their parents had 17 years to teach them this shit is wrong, its obvious they dont care

[@isthatyoucedric7854]

How dare these people not in the line of fire criticize literal children for the way they deal with and process the fact that they risk MASS MURDER, five days a week.

[@mawile_2665]

As a graphic design student in college AI has become the biggest fear that I’ve had to live through while pursuing this career. I’ve had professors talk about how they’ve had artwork stolen from not only them but also other people in the industry to fuel the learning process of these machines without crediting them or giving them compensation while also trying to replace the jobs of graphic designers and digital artist with these soulless machines. It honestly makes me fear what the future will hold for designers in general. I’m scared that I may not even have a job when I graduate college because of AI-generated art especially with companies like Instagram and now KZbin using these programs to generate artwork.

[@HuckleberryFairy]

Best advice for your anxiety is this: AI is unable to replicate what makes "humanity". The creative innovation nature of art will always need to come from a human. We are pretty unique in a way AI is limited ;)

[@jxst_ki5236]

​@HuckleberryFairy while I agree with you for the most part, the main concern is the amount work that's going to be available. It takes artistic jobs from people. Why pay a person or team of people for thier work, when you can get something good enough from AI way cheaper. While a human may make better art, and not all do, the AI can do a good to great job, take way less time, and be way cheaper. Cost is the biggest factor, and that's hard for a person to beat. It basically only leaves jobs available for the very best artists doing amazing work, and not much regular stable income for people who just want a nice career doing something they love

[@AndrewWasTakenAgain]

MOST PEOPLE DO NOT WANT AI IN THEIR STUFF! That is just a fact. This is just something for their investors to say "oh wow" to and fork over an extra few million.

[@darklelouchg8505]

Most people don't care actually. You presume they do, because you care. Most people just want the product.

[@AndrewWasTakenAgain]

@@darklelouchg8505 No, I "presume" cause you can find study after study where they asked people and the majority said no. Not hard to find them.

[@darklelouchg8505]

@@AndrewWasTakenAgain Totally man, you keep believing that BS.

[@AndrewWasTakenAgain]

@@darklelouchg8505 Says the person actively not looking for anyone elses side but their own.

[@darklelouchg8505]

​@@AndrewWasTakenAgain I am providing a conclusion based on personal observation and inquiry.

[@jonah11111]

I feel like educating them vs shaming them would be an option. Maybe mandatory counselling or something along those lines. They are still just kids in the end, educate the parents too.

[@anthonybalista7421]

It’s 2024. There is no more excuses for kids not knowing what they’re doing. They know. They just don’t care.

[@CreativeUsernameEh]

Counseling doesn’t work unless you want to be there. “Mandatory counseling” isn’t effective.

[@jonah11111]

@@CreativeUsernameEh it's better if they want to be there, but of course it can still work

[@jonah11111]

@@anthonybalista7421 That's not how being in 2024 works. Maybe the older teenagers but at 11? Still developing.

[@shelby6]

​@@jonah11111 11 year olds are not dumb, they know, they understand.

[@alyssaerazo8950]

I always love that you say “(day) evening/(day) morning” when you talk about who’s watching because I watch when I get ready for work in the morning 😂

[@Kerryanneevergreen]

I fully agree something has to be done- however publicly shaming a child will absolutely not help the mental health crisis. This will only strengthen the anger and resentment towards the system. Scared Straight Programs did not help anyone. All this will do is further isolate the youth that are already intrigued by violence.

[@Kuinsy]

Maybe teach kids that threats are not protected by the 1st amendment?

[@crystals4ever]

You have a point...

[@Plupert]

It’s not like people are suggesting to do just that. Of course we need more mental health support too. But these morons joking around need to be shamed. I think your POV is naive.

[@crystals4ever]

@@Plupert I'm confused by what you mean? You say "It's not like people are suggesting they do that" but also later in your statement do suggest they be shamed.

[@xoMissTaylorDivine]

The one thing KZbin needs to do is have a proper blocking system like Instagram. So sick of the “hide user from channel comments” that’s not good enough.

[@wingedyera]

And while we are at it I also want to be able to block certain adds

[@piperarcher9706]

I went to a high school in Washington State that had several "bomb threats" made. It was so often and happened on a specific day of the week- we called it Bomb Threat Wednesdays. It only stopped when it was announced that charges would be made if they were caught. In my schools case, the moment firm and hard consequences would follow, they lined up, and no more happened. I dont know if this will work. I dont know if it will make kids who need hard boundaries behave or if it will have angry and isolated kids more vengeful.

[@ddnnzi00]

I am from Burundi, and the USA sanction on Burundi (2015-2020) really killed the economy. Today, we are more and more relying on foreign aid. This has led many youths and talents to immigrate to countries like Canada, Germany, Belgium, and France. Consequently, Burundi is far behind in terms of development including basic infrastructure hospitals, roads, electricity, and schools. The intended goal was never reached: the political party, at the time, is still in power, democracy is not upheld, and we are relying heavily on Chinese-aid programs. Burundi's national debt went from 40% of the GDP in 2015 to 62.8% as of last year. *More Context* Burundi, already one of the poorest countries in the world, was severely impacted by the sanctions, which curtailed access to international trade and development funding. The sanctions targeted specific individuals and entities linked to human rights violations, but they had far-reaching consequences for the overall economy.

[@SkunkApe407]

Burundi was sanctioned for human rights violations. Burundi is poor because you have no resources, natural or otherwise, and never really have. US sanctions didn't make Burundi poor, Burundi did. Endless civil strife, outbreaks of violence, and no industry are not conducive to building an economy, especially in a nation with so little to offer the global economy. It wasn't the US alone who sanctioned Burundi. The UK, EU, and US all sanctioned Burundi, and all for the same reasons

[@ddnnzi00]

@@SkunkApe407 You're right that Burundi has struggled with internal issues like civil strife and limited natural resources. However, the key point is that the sanctions disproportionately hurt ordinary Burundians, not the political elites they were aimed at. When a fragile economy dependent on exports like coffee and tea is cut off from major markets, it leads to greater poverty and reliance on foreign aid. Yes, Burundi’s challenges go beyond the sanctions, but cutting off trade opportunities only made things worse for the average person. Sanctions should be targeted in a way that addresses human rights without pushing millions further into hardship.

[@SkunkApe407]

@@ddnnzi00 problem is, the government of Burundi takes a cut of any business done by those ordinary Burundians, which is why those sanctions were set in place. Tea and coffee can be sourced from other places, with governments who are less prone to victimizing their populace. At some point, people have to stand up and take control of their own affairs. Why should the US or any other nation do business in and with a nation who openly shows hostility towards or an unwillingness to cooperate with us? No nation is obligated to do business with another, if that other nation's motives and philosophies don't align with theirs. If a nation wishes to do business with and benefit from the economic strength of the Western circle of influence, they must, at least, show themselves to be aligned with the overall direction thereof.

[@Plupert]

So why are you blaming the US for this instead of your own government?

[@SkunkApe407]

@@Plupert because blaming the rich country is easier than looking in the mirror. I mean, if you're poor and start abusing your family, that's all the fault of the rich people who live across town, right?

[@whoahanant]

Parents are failing their duties and in some of these shootings they're practically the REASON these kids are messed up. Letting them run wild online so they can learn all this stuff on certain sites. Then there's the one where the kid straight up was ignored so much and even got caught with dark thoughts and writings at school with his parents involved. Only to be ignored again and bring his parents gun to school. Parents should 110% get absolutely demolished in courts for MAKING their kids monsters via abuse or neglect. They're raising killers all because they were stupid enough to have a kid and treat them like pets or some shit.

[@jasmine-eq3so]

I live in Volusia and was waiting for you to talk about this. While I don't have kids, one of my coworker's kids goes to one of school that got threaten. She didn't let her kid go to school for 2 days and her kid had a whole conversation about which teachers he has that he believes would jump in front of a bullet for their students. I couldn't imagine having a conversation like that with a kid who only started school a few weeks ago. Truly a mess but threats were a problem back when I was in school (I graduated like 2-3 years ago). I even remember a time when my friend who went a different school texted me asking me to ask my mom to pick me up because there was a threat and she was worried about me. We were like 15.

[@danniedanielle8157]

Same! Sheriff Chitwood doesn’t play and good on him! He’s been a really good sheriff.

[@peterjames1295]

Hopefully HOPEfully the 'fame and shame' method in the first story doesn't cause virality for clout chasers. Back when i was in middle/high school we had that "16 and pregnant" tv show and I remember hearing about the uptick of girls intentionally trying to get pregnant just to be on the show/tv.

[@charityquill4965]

I'm hoping that the police will actually use fines for wasting police resources, so the financial strain might be enough to make stupid bad parents that normally couldn't care less what their kids do actually take some measures to prevent their kids from making threats in the first place. Also there's the issue that, like the first kid in the story that had an alarming stockpile which calls into question how much he was "joking", it could prevent kids with mental health issues escalating from a "joke" to full blown attempts

[@RachelDAdams]

As a beginning authortuber and someone who loves booktube and gaming channels as well, I like the ideas presented by KZbin. Hype sounds like a good bandaid while they work on shifting that algo to better help smaller creators.

[@logangrzesiek8749]

I quit teaching because I was sick of the lack of a basic line of respect from students and parents. This Sheriff is the man.

[@issabeganovic8822]

As George Carlin loosely said: "This is the best we're gonna get, it's never going to be better, the people who run this country don't want people who can think, they want obedient morons who can fill their pockets."

[@Windmelodie]

While I agree with most, I don't think an 11-year old kid should actually be charged or convicted. Yes, it's a dumb joke that no one should make, but kids shouldn't have their future jobs endangered by dumb shit they did as children. If anyone should be charged, it should be the parents. In Germany we have the legal phrase "Eltern haften für ihre Kinder", so parents are liable for their children's actions. They mess around, the parents find out. However, I do think a scare tactic might work. Arrest the kids with handcuffs and everything, put them in a cell overnight, no phone, no comfy bed and bring them to an actual prison and give them a tour à la "this is what's gonna wait for you if you keep this up". And to those with mental health issue, offer them help as part of a programme, aka not forcing the kids to fork over 200 bucks per therapy session. The danger I see with "publicly shaming" them is that it could have the opposite effect: dumb kids thinking their friend is cool, trying to one-up that friend, making it a "challenge" or "trend", celebrating their friend being on TV etc. So yeah, I think it'd be best to scare them with more than just words, but to not actually ruin their future over (granted, inappropriate) stupid jokes.

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

The kid didn't even get due process. The sheriff is a diva and you're a bloodthirsty twT

[@DTfan43]

That sheriff actually broke the law by revealing that kid's information.

[@DTfan43]

​@@WindmelodieThat's as draconian as what this sheriff is doing. Why punish the parents for something THEY ACTUALLY CANNOT CONTROL? If you stop and think about it, many of these types of issues boil down to mental health, and 99% of the time the parents weren't aware. Not because they didn't care, but we as a society are so behind on picking up on the flags of poor mental health that it's not apparent until it happens. Like with what happened in the US in '99. If that had happened in Germany, that poor mother would be going to prison. Now, I don't know if you've read her memoir, but I don't think that woman deserves prison time.

[@trevorhensley3185]

That sheriff was speaking truth!

[@vatic1091]

Seems stupid to me because the potential victims will lash out against those who threatened them

[@CryoJnik]

@@vatic1091 Oh no. What will that poor person that thought it'd be a good idea to commit a terrorism ever do?

[@UbieoneKenubie]

@@vatic1091let’s just continue to do nothing then.. like the fuck?

[@vatic1091]

@@CryoJnik as a former dumbass teen who talked shit and had a hard time processing emotions. Yeah I understand those kids

[@vatic1091]

@@UbieoneKenubie never said that I’m saying don’t public shame someone infront of a community that might have already rejected them. That’s the same as storing a armed grenade next to your shells and being surprised when there’s an explosion.

[@TheMrMister01]

33 minute Thursday show?! Time to lock in

[@MicrowavedFurby]

Phil just keeps looking better as time goes on.

[@overthinkingkpop]

I am legitimately HYPED for the hype feature. As a smaller creator who likes to actively signal boost other small creators within my niche, this seems like a great tool with zero drawbacks.

[@edwardwilson7459]

I'm conflicted. On one hand i feel something has to be done to crackdown on school shootings. But on the other hand as someone who was a social pariah at school because my father was a devoute alcoholic public shame doesn't stop shootings, public shame creates the kind of isolation that makes children contemplate violent acts.

[@comicsans3537]

afaik according to most research, shooters aren't socially isolated- they usually isolate themselves before other will do so, they also tend to be very unwell in many regards (not just mentally, but at home usually too/only at home). The joke of the "lonely, outcast little boy" is sorta mostly a joke 😅 the kids tend to know what they are doing or are extremely antisocial, or at the most tend to be disillusioned with life due tk a home that doesn't support them. Having a few bullies is a small percentage of why people tend to do this. I could be wrong but afaik it's less shame and more emotional stability with or without shame.

[@sandywave4971]

I am really sorry, but also, your experience was not your doing. I think it’s different from this idea a lot. If you were goofing around or choosing violence yourself or say drinking yourself as a way to get things you want done, the shame may or may not have pointed out “hey don’t use that to get stuff done”. But as a kid who wasn’t the one doing the drinking etc, you were absolutely in a helpless spot and I’m so so sorry. People need to be understanding of how that was for you. And help support you obviously! Not talk about it online like a snippy topic. They were very irresponsible imo. I’m sorry.

[@tearainey1]

Personally I'm all for that Sheriff's approach. Kids have to understand, this isn't a game. There are actual children who will never hug their parents again because of the selfishness of others. It's becoming a worrying trend, and part of that I think is a mix of parents being negligent or disconnected from their own kids, and kids thinking they won't face consequences. At some ages they can't even really comprehend spending the rest of their lives in jail, but that doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing is wrong. Intervention early may save countless lives, even if it means embarrassing the kids or parents or pressing charges.

[@StreakyBaconMan]

I just don't see it being effective at all, like if someone wants to do a school shooting they're obviously not worried about legal consequences or having their name and face plastered on the news. It might reduce the number of kids who make these horrible types of threats as a joke or a hoax - but at the expense of basically ruining their entire life. While making a hoax threat or joking about shooting up a school is a horrible thing and kids should absolutely be punished for it, I just don't think publicly linking their face and name with the fact they were arrested for this as a minor is a reasonable punishment. For the rest of that kids life if you google them, you'll see what they were accused of. Doesn't matter that they were 13, never had any real intention of doing a mass shooting and have changed as a person since - an employer googles their name and they see that and they probably think "oh well I don't want him going postal on the office". I don't know exactly what should be done if these hoax/joke threats are becoming more common, but I think this solution is a bit too extreme.

[@tearainey1]

@StreakyBaconMan You have a point. It's tough because some kids are childish enough to post their planned crimes before they do it, and they wholly planned to do it, but there are many who see it as a joke and maybe quite a morbid one at that. Still, considering how widely this problem has spread its likely not going to get better without a little heavy handed justice. And hopefully a lot more access to mental health services, i think that would help in the long run. Make it free to students, have enough therapists to handle a school, and try to get troubled kids help before they ruin their lives and everyone else's.

[@zwenkwiel816]

​​@@StreakyBaconManbut but. It kind of feels like we're actually doing something. Also it makes for good PR. just let the sherif do a perp walk for the local paper man XD You're absolutely right of course. This is just meaningless symbolic nonsense so they can continue to ignore the actual issue here, which is of course gun control...

[@StreakyBaconMan]

@@zwenkwiel816 Local paper? This was literally plastered over national news.

[@Sellesion]

At this point, I agree with the name and shame method. Kids need to know that school shootings are not a joke and anyone "joking" about it by threatening others lives *should* be ashamed of themselves. The parents too, they need to take it seriously and see their freedom flash before their eyes. If you ignore your kids behavior when theyre doing things like drawing depictions of a mass shooting or stock piling weapons, you are responsible. Do better. Society shouldnt tolerate it, and nothing else has been working. In the US we've sorely forgotten a little thing called personal responsibility.

[@rainysundayplans1202]

I think that sheriff in the first story is definitely doing the right thing. It’s important for kids to understand how serious these ‘jokes’ are. Even if it doesn’t minimise the actual number of students who are serious and follow through, hopefully it will make them easier to spot and intervene before anything happens if there aren’t as many others joking about it.

[@noritoshi384]

When I was in high school someone with a grudge claimed I threatened to shoot up the school to get me in trouble and the teacher was required to report it which resulted in me being taken home by the police in the back of a squad car while everyone I knew was getting on the buses and saw me being driven away. It was humiliating and I can't imagine what my life would have been like if that moment had been posted on social media for the entire world to see.

[@feha92]

That is exactly the kind of thing I expected when I heard about this piece of news - for most of the threats to be anonymous and/or seem like they came from someone else, or for ppl to claim someone else made a threat they overheard or was the recipient of. Luckily, the "perp walked" kids are only ones that are most definitely guilty after a fair trial. Since anything else is a defamation-lawsuit in the making, against those police. ps: and you could have sued that person with a grudge for defamation, fyi.

[@zackestin1368]

@@feha92 high schoolers arent in a position to sue people normally. youre also going to be made fun of more than you are for the police stuff anyways if you try that.

[@feha92]

@@zackestin1368 Maybe not, but their family/guardians are. And if they aren't, then high schoolers are in fact able to anyway. Being made fun of is ok, the important part is ensuring due process before any punishment.

[@JGPlunder]

That union rep guy has had some really shitty interactions in congress/senate the past few years. He is the guy who almost got in a fight with one of the man-baby in counsel that had to be broken up by Bernie Sanders

[@ahastar1141]

I think he was also mad that after going to the RNC the DNC didnt roll out the carpet for him.

[@zeynoaksit8635]

Stafford Va investigated a kid who made a threat to shoot up his school. During the investigation, they found a firearm that he stole. These threats should always be taken seriously.

[@Covfefe_Jelly]

The shaming thing only works if they feel shame in the first place. While this is good for everyday people who hold any ounce of values, to someone far gone this isn't a solution. Don't let people say that this is the solution, the primary solution is about gun reform.

[@MrTrombonebandgeek]

As a GR supporter; our culture is so dogmatic around guns so any meaningful change is going to be slow. To put it in reference; the one to “start it all”, Columbine was nearly 25 years ago. So if anything if we change the culture (even if it isn’t perfect) will eventually change the laws regarding it, like smoking

[@Lionsgala]

What kind of crack cocaine do you have to be on to think that making a threat to shoot up a school is a joke

[@TheeSinnerman]

Sugar... Because they are kids who don't know the full gravity of what they are saying.

[@mini_sparklez9611]

I have siblings who are also dealing with the current school threats. I think this is amazing to discourage kids and to get parents to properly TELL their kids to fix themselves up. Many times, parents just clearly don’t say anything and blame it on the “sensitive” generation. No, this is helping peoples jobs, reduce trauma for threats believed to be true and having to experience lockdowns or actual shootings. I don’t think there will be a real movement for stricter laws or stuff, there probably would’ve been if there was like a spike of shootings at more public areas than just kids. It’s so easy for non-parents to not care

[@helloMerrMerr]

One time, a coworker (a manager) at a retail place kept calling our store, making threats with a creepy voice (called like 5 times) and we were genuinely about to call the police before he walked back in from his break and bursted out laughing that he “really got us”. He wasn’t laughing when he was fired by the store manager and district manager for terrorizing the store. All that to say, I really think that public humiliation might be the right tool for shutting that shit down. It may seem extremely harsh, but knowing you will be punished publicly might be the best deterrent for kids making those “jokes” and fake threats. On the other hand, some kids are seriously acting out because they need help. I hope the US can get a better handle on mental health treatment (especially for the youth) and prevention of these acts altogether.

[@maurer3d]

Story 4: "We won't endorse anyone, even though one of the candidates publicly talks about how much he hates unions and wants to get rid of them", well ain't that logical....Oh wait I mean silly.

[@zackestin1368]

but he gave us presents and vacations :(

[@emanjr.9386]

It is mind blowing that shootings are such a common topic of conversation when it comes to American schools. It is so bizarre that the overlap of individualistic culture, company greed and mental health have birthed such a twisted phenomenon.

[@LicPlate8VPL158]

its weird because one of the patents that Nintendo owns is the idea of throwing a sphere to capture something in third person. they literally own the patent which is so stupid and generalized

[@HeadCannonPrime]

I have a feeling their patents might not hold up in court. It's long established that game mechanics can't be patented. So unless the took some actual game code, they may have a hard time.

[@EnderPryde]

​@@HeadCannonPrimegame mechanics can't be but the specific implementation *of* those game mechanics absolutely can be. For an example: back between 1995 and 2015, Bandai Namco had a copyright on all Loading Screen Minigames. It wasn't that minigames were patented, or that interactive loading screens were patented, but the specific implementation of minigames *into* a loading screen that was Patented (successfully)

[@charmax88]

The deep dive into sanctions at the end of the show was really interesting and well researched - bravo. I think it would be great if you joined these segments together and released them as a weekly omnibus at the weekend

[@Keniisu]

Can’t wait until you cover the Mark Robinson story. It’s absolutely insane what the NC candidate is saying as a resident

[@Masterplan15]

He's nuts

[@anacc3257]

Going on a disturbing political rant on a porn forum out of all places..I wonder if he was drunk. Definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed.

[@jill_alt]

I’m very torn about the handling of perp walking kids and posting that online. On one hand, actions have consequences. Shootings are horrific and in no way funny, and that really can’t be stressed enough. If even just one of those kids who was ‘joking’ was actually serious, this may have saved lives. On the other hand, kids making those kinds of jokes are just that - they’re kids. Likely troubled ones at that. I don’t think they need jail time and felony records so much as I think they really need an adult who cares about them and teaches them right from wrong.

[@pumpkinprincess1019]

As a mother, I made the difficult decision to withdraw my daughter from middle school and enroll her in a virtual academy due to ongoing threats and unruly behavior among students in our local schools. It’s disheartening, especially since we live in a top-tier school district. I truly appreciate what the sheriff is doing and hope our local police officers would take similar action. Last week, our county addressed the issue of false threats, which has only heightened our concerns.

[@itsthevoiceman]

Unfortunately, this feeds into the Christofascist push to charter schools and homeschooling, while defunding the Department of Education. I understand your reticence, but it's a small step to a now authoritarian society.

[@pumpkinprincess1019]

@@itsthevoiceman I appreciate the civility (not sarcasm). The virtual academy my child attends is a public school. Our county has started offering virtual public school in addition to traditional public schools. In my family's case, this actually highlights the flexibility of the Department of Education. I also understand that this situation may not be feasible for everyone. However, saying that any parent's desire to have more control over the safety and education of their child is by definition, fascism. I say this due to one of the principles of fascism being "social regimentation and suppression of opposition". I think every family needs to make decisions that best fit their particular situation and can accommodate their lifestyle.

[@Plupert]

@@itsthevoicemanI don’t have kids but the whole schooling system just seems fucked. Your options are public schools with a bunch of degenerate kids ruining the learning environment, private schools which are pretty much just cults and christofacist, or homeschooling which I definitely am not qualified for. It’s lose lose lose.

[@NotSoMax]

I feel somewhat conflicted on the first story, on one hand I don't think these charges shouldn't follow these kids into their adulthood once they've proved they've grown. But on the other hand I find these "jokes" unacceptable and it shows an alarming trend of the normalization of these events. I do wonder if it's putting energy in the wrong direction. I hope I'm wrong and this is effective in decreasing fake threats and "jokes" and helps to denormalize these shootings, but I'm not confident punishing a symptom of the problem really helps resolve the problem itself.

[@amonkey9]

Criminal Records for minors are often sealed once they reach 18. Pretty sure this is true for most, if not all, states. They wouldn’t be found on a typical background check for employment.

[@ahastar1141]

I mean while they don't fall off automatically, they can file a motion to have them expunged at 18. Also, what do you believe is the true problem behind kids making fake threats?

[@lilelo208]

This solution seems easier than making guns more difficult to access.....

[@Marcus-z2z]

The people who threaten schools abt to get caught this abt to become a country wide thing bc my school got one last week

[@DANIxDANGER]

A neighboring city got one TODAY. They have to name and shame them at this point.

[@kirstenb9732]

In regards to the first story…. I’ll tell you one of my own. When my brother and I were in elementary school, he was bullied for some new glasses. He was frustrated and instead of being helped or reaching out for help he stayed quiet. Until one day the girls bullying him pushed his buttons a little too much and he made a verbal threat saying, “I wish I had a bazooka to bl0w y0u up!” A teacher heard that part and my brother was immediately sent to the office, our father was called, and it was going to be an OOS suspension for a week. My father went into the principal’s office asking why the bullying was allowed but “my 8 year old son pretending to have a bazooka and being frustrated” is not the same thing. I wish my father had seen that that was a cry for help. I wish we had helped him then. If this helps straighten young people who think it’s funny or the correct way to react to a situation, then I’m for it. I wish my brother had gone on with the suspension and been given a chance to get help; today he is a different man and looking for that help now, but what a road it took.

[@agentsauce1966]

I agree with the Sherrif. These things need to be taken more seriously because in the most well-known cases, when they aren't, kids die

[@Spanner14]

And wouldn’t limiting children’s access to guns and counseling be more effective than shaming and humiliating them across an entire town?

[@agentsauce1966]

@Spanner14 No one takes either of those methods seriously, unfortunately. If those strategy work, then yes, I would prefer them, but since the topic is treated as a joke a more serious tone needs to be taken

[@Spanner14]

@@agentsauce1966 more serious doesn’t mean more effective. Are you more likely to take snake oil if more people recommend it than legitimate medical help? All it will do is cause more harm.

[@NateBee]

The Teamsters not backing the pro union Democratic Party is so strange. I bet they vote out their Union Leadership VERY soon.

[@DammitBobby]

Fat chance. Most of the teamsters members are voting Trump. Guess the pro union party isn't racist enough for them.

[@kaizo_tv]

Teamster had a internal poll showing most union members supported Trump. That's why the decision was made.

[@MrDoverfield]

A union trying to also get workers right in red states is soo strange. Don’t they know, only people in blue states deserve workers rights

[@Raylen_Fa-ield]

Worse the decision came shortly after a Trump took interest

[@HeadCannonPrime]

The 'leadership' is largely pro democrat but the 'membership' is heavily Trumpian.

[@nope2095]

On the overdoses - folks self medicate when they can't get access to mental healthcare. There has been a greater acceptance of folks seeking and using mental health care since 2019. I think with less of a stigma, hopefully people will have to self-medicate ess, leading to less overdoses.

[@curiouslytot1950]

@@nope2095 Not really the case a lot of the time. Many users do have access to mental health care. Even many alcoholics do as well. The issue can also be that alcohol and drugs work better in their experience. I’ve also known people who were groomed into starting and struggled to quit… like I know one girl personally who was groomed into that lifestyle at 15 by her boyfriend… she is 2 years sober now :D But did you know that most anxiety meds won’t work on people with bipolar disorder? Or that many people with issues like adhd suffer from anxiety disorders due to things like overstimulation… but that meds (anxiety or adhd) are not really good at fixing overstimulation 😬

[@curiouslytot1950]

@@nope2095 that’s just two examples… so I’d chalk a lot of them up to having access… but the current meds available are ineffective 😬

[@rice_frying_shrimp]

As far as the KZbin HYPE concept, I think worst case it doesn't do well and gets canned in a few weeks or months and best case it works to improve the algorithm for people who it's not currently serving well by letting users have a say in it as well. I am already liking every video I watch now, I've basically trained myself to do it immediately before it even starts and only take it away if I end up *not* liking the video but that's not something everyone can do and even then it might not work in small creators' favor either.

[@cormacthem8406]

Pokémon and Nintendo are litigious??!! “Surprise Pikachu face!”

[@Kat19760]

😂

[@DracoMilitis]

@@BusinessSkrub seems like a stretch given what is covered by a patent, nintendo doing nintendo and didn't even inform them of what they violated, seems pretty dry atm and more of a "we're doing this to appease our shareholders"

[@EnderPryde]

​@@DracoMilitisI haven't seen any specifics of what patents Pokemon does or does not own, but juat based on the other game-patents I've seen, it's probably something weirdly small and specific, like the capturing-in-thrown-balls-that-shake-1-4-times

[@cloudyview]

You have been served 👨‍⚖️

[@ObeliskDemon]

​@DracoMilitis eh, the game is very similar to legends arceus, it probably has more legs to stand on than most band wagoners want to admit

[@meru8348]

I think the problem with the "Shame Walk" technique these police officers are using to deter these potential kid school shooters is the fact these kids will eventually have to return to school, you really think that embarrassment isn't going to completely ruin their mental state and potentially make mental issues worse? I feel like there has to be a better way.

[@thelivingglitch1371]

@@meru8348 I don’t think there is, if it gets the message across. Drastic measures, and all.

[@paradoxinraindrops141]

@@thelivingglitch1371 So you get the message across, and in turn it results in a child being socially ostracized & in turn bullied. Not to mention whatever hell it ends up raising in the home…. For that reason alone I think this approach is flawed.

[@dragconen]

My mental state would be far more effected by the threat of being shot by said student that got them selves arrested.

[@peruvianpuffpepper904]

@@paradoxinraindrops141oh well. Should have thought twice before threatening his school.

[@paradoxinraindrops141]

@@peruvianpuffpepper904 I understand where the Sheriff is coming from, but long term I can see the certain responses exceeding the intended purpose. The punishment needs to suit the crime. What the kid needs is help and actual responsible mentors so he can understand the error of his ways. And to understand you should not make light of subjects like this.

[@Laneth]

I love that the "new" Hype feature that is designed to promote content for 'smaller' creators is essentially a modern version of the OLD KZbin trending/discovery pages that featured the main global homepage, as well as regional/geo-relevant content to the user. It never made sense in my mind that they all but removed any sort of organic growth and spotlight-ability for anything but their largest creators (ie. the ones that net the biggest/best ROI for advertisers) - absolutely bring back geo-specific / category / topic-based trending and discovery tools, even if it is driven by community "hype" engagement. This is a fantastic bit of news for smaller creators that have been busting their gut but rarely / never getting any sort of platform or assist from KZbin itself.

[@GibbonStreet]

Holding kids accountable and charging them, publicly shaming them, won't have the positive effect we need without court mandated behavior therapy after the fact.

[@zwenkwiel816]

I think they should skip the shaming part as that's obviously only counter productive. Like it might help stop the prank threats but anyone seriously considering doing something would only close down and keep it to himself if they risk public shaming. Actual threats won't diminish at all. They will just be even harder to spot in this climate of paranoia and finger pointing...

[@brianbaker2455]

I'm a former juvenile delinquent and this doesn't work for multiple reasons, most importantly the parents don't always know what the kid is up to when not in sight of the parents. My behavior away from my parents was my choice, not theirs, and they couldn't stop it no matter how hard they tried. I never called in a threat against a school, but I don't think this will work because attention, even bad attention, is better than no attention at all.

[@thotimusprimeofficial273]

Yes also there’s been plenty of studies that tell us shaming kids does not work. Naming, shaming and perp walking a child vs sitting that child down, really explaining why what they did was wrong and giving a punishment that explores that is far more effective. This could ruin lives in many ways imo.

[@4xdblack]

Yeah I can already see the initiation dares where they make the threat to get their perp walk on purpose.

[@IIITheDeadGamerIII]

@@thotimusprimeofficial273 Not just sitting that child down, getting that child the support they need. There's many reasons for "bad behavior" and getting to the root cause of that behavior is important.

[@thotimusprimeofficial273]

@@IIITheDeadGamerIII Yes that also! More effort needs to be put into children we can’t just name, shame and hope everything will be fine.

[@Lunautau101]

What I’m worried about is that while these arrests and walks of shame will deter fake threats, actual high-risk kids might learn to keep their mouth shut, and we won’t know until it’s too late. We’re treating a symptom, not the problem.

[@zackestin1368]

im not sure about this. we've tried monitoring social media in the past for threats and telling their parents, it hasn't stopped them, some action needs to be taken off of the social media threats you see that actually effects the kids. The idea of "school shooters wont give warning flags if we act on them" is ignoring the glaring issue with the thinking that warning flags aren't useful if you ignore them, and that many people use school shootings as a form of suicide, they're not normally worrying about repercussions. if anything they're intentionally posting the threats because they want people to leave them the f alone and be terrified of bullying them more. publicly telling people they're saying them and letting communities be scared of them is literally what they want. and even if it does only stop fake threats..... thats still people literally scared for their lives that wont be anymore? like thats a good thing still. thats a problem solved.

[@Lunautau101]

@@zackestin1368 I mean sure, it solves that particular problem of scaring and threatening other people, which is a _good_ thing; I don’t want communities to be scared and I want all warning signs to be taken as seriously as possible, but why do they think these jokes are “funny” in the first place? Why are they getting these guns in the first place? Where are their parents? Where the hell did gun safety go? Who is monitoring what they engage with online? There are so many other factors going into this that while the sheriff’s solution may solve one thing, but again it’s a symptom (kids so desensitized to violence they joke about it) of a much larger problem, and it will only keep happening again and again and again. I want these to stop at least almost completely. I don’t just want the threats to stop and warning signs to be taken seriously, I want us to get down to the root so we don’t have to deal with these ever again. What that root is, people smarter than me can say.

[@sandywave4971]

Small punishments are very effective in slowing and deterring abusive and dangerous behaviors. I think you are truly uninformed on how to work with dangerous people and also normal people experiencing dangerous mindsets. My advice to you would be to not get in the way of people who know how to do this and know how to dampen the dangerous intentions. A sheriff is a great example of someone who has to see and have firsthand experience working with redline people on a daily basis. I hope I don’t sound rude. For the record I’m okay with you not knowing how to handle a abusive or dangerous person with intent to k***. I spent most of my life quite the same until the last ~10 intense years. And for you, I hope you will never need to learn ❤️ be safe.

[@Lunautau101]

@@sandywave4971 I never attempted to say I knew better or wanted to get in the way of the sheriff’s job, so yes that part in particular did come off a little rude. Tone doesn’t do well on the internet so if I sounded like I was stating a fact, I was not. I’m sorry you went through something terrible; Obviously I don’t know how to work with dangerous people, but I and many others are allowed to express concern of potential backfiring, and if his method works, great, I’ll step back and admit I was wrong. I’m not saying he _shouldn’t_ be doing it, something has to be done about these kids. But if not, we need another plan, because we don’t know the outcome of these arrests might have. Police can get it wrong, as we’ve seen so many times. I want dangerous behaviors to stop, but I want us to get down to the catalyst as well. _Prevention_ is important too, not just in stopping dangerous behaviors but making sure they don’t happen in the first place. If the sheriff’s method assists in that prevention, great. But it’s only one piece.

[@xxdark_elfxx8529]

I live and Volusia County and that Friday was wild. I kept getting phone calls from my son’s school and Facebook was going crazy.

[@AngryTheChipmonk]

The fact it took so long for Nintendo and TPC to make a move, very much shows that they did their research. They don’t make moves without making sure they have a very legit case. Also like you said, Japan is insanely protective of copyright and patents

[@Ma121Hunter]

On the one hand, I want to see Nintendo and TPC get their egos knocked int he dirt. On the other hand, if they win, at the very least they'll have some fresh ideas to try and implement into their next couple games. e.e

[@Demkeys]

I'm in favor of naming and shaming people who are actually guilty, when there's definite proof that they are guilty of it. My concern with the naming and shaming approach is, what if someone is being falsely accused of making threats by some bullies who wanna mess with them, and then the falsely accused kid gets perp walked like this, even though they're innocent and the police just didn't do their job properly? Wouldn't be the first time the police get something wrong. And then a poor innocent kid's life could get ruined because some bullies thought it would be funny.

[@_nellysunshine]

It's clear that those being named and shamed are guilty. Those kids had hit lists and that's enough. Most don't have to be a child psychologist to tell the difference between a kid writing about a bad day in a diary vs a hit list.

[@janemiettinen5176]

It’s the American way, due process is part of the punishment. Populism and laws are horrible bedmates, but people see the problem only when it’s someone they love. And this sorta public shaming is only going to marginalize kids even further, making the problem even bigger.

[@heathermarcoux294]

@@janemiettinen5176 Thank you. It is frightening to me how many comments under this video aren't seeing this.

[@sandywave4971]

Anything can be twisted. But not trying is the least responsible approach and more people fully d** that way. When you make rules you have to work with percentages and good intentions and make moves. Otherwise you’re not leading and you’re not keeping anyone safe. Bad things flourish when the leader refuses to show up and balance a group. It’s far far too dangerous to judge a new method as untestable before testing it.

[@janemiettinen5176]

@@sandywave4971 Do you honestly think that punishment as deterrent for crime isnt already studied? It has, and even death penalty doesnt work as deterrent on adults. And these are minors. Im highly worried about you, dear Americans.

[@deathpgt]

Strange how that sherif didn't mention the police themselves and the faculty who are time and time again shown to have dropped the ball on obvious signs of a problem.

[@MakerOfChase]

Kids are very motivated by fear, cops know all about that one. What a shit position to be in. I can understand the frustration on both sides. People are looking to police to do something where the police are looking to stop them having to do anything at all. It's all hindsight, every damn time.

[@chromegnats]

I am in an extremely rural town and the school system has been shut down the last 2 Fridays because of threats. I haven been in high school in 20 years but it happened back then too… waiting on the call for them to be cancelled again tomorrow.

[@withouta315]

The fact that the Nintendo lawsuit focused on patents makes me think that they looked into the source code and found something there. A patent cannot protect a character but might protect from someone copy/pasting code.

[@curiouslytot1950]

Yes. Patents cover code so that is possible

[@EnderPryde]

Patents can also cover specific ideas, regardless of specific code implementation, which might also be what's targeted. Remember: Bandai Namco had a patent on the implementation of loading-screen minigames from 1995 to 2015, and Activision Blizzard still has a patent on using multiplayer matchmaking to drive microtransaction sales.

[@Tustin2121]

From speculation I’ve seen online, it might be something with the HUD or something with the gameplay, not any specific code. Apparently Nintendo patents just everything they might use, which is frankly absurd and sounds like an abuse of the system. Video game mechanics should not be patentable.

[@shinobimanexe]

​@@curiouslytot1950 patents cover code, but methods cannot be pattened or else any game with an inventory system that has dynamic otem lists with unique stats names and their own item or skill slots would be under fire. Monster Hunters Paleco feature, Persona's core gameplay mechanics, all of Yokai-Watch I could go on forever. Palworlds gameplay is too dynamically different for them to be able to sue over ots similarities. I definitely hope Nintendo gets put in its place for once.

[@curiouslytot1950]

@@withouta315 genuine question. If it’s being filed in Japan because the us patents wouldn’t be likely to pass… could they get around the infringement by simply not selling in Japan? Like I know their Pokémon capture system is patented in Japan but I think it’s still just pending in the US. It was mildly rejected (sent back) but not flat out rejected here… I’m pretty sure but could be wrong that items are only protected in countries where they actually have patents.

[@jokerzyo]

Parents should be charged with the child for threats or carrying out a shooting

[@judithbradford9130]

Trump told the Teamsters he would PROMISE to save their pensions if "everybody would love him" and then did absolutely nothing. It's a ludicrous demand to require Harris to promise never to "interfere" in ANY INDUSTRY that employs Teamsters!

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Trump only a few weeks ago was laughing with m usk about how easily he fires people. Yet they are claiming not sure which side to join 🤦‍♂️

[@hopelessromantic3786]

Ludacris may be the word, but it's a direct consequence of Biden strike breaking over the railroads. The democratic party lost Teamsters trust.

[@garythecyclingnerd6219]

The Biden admin passed legislation that helped the union shore up pension funds. The Teamsters president is a MAGA crazy.

[@danielbyrne5402]

Trump said that? When? Where? In a movie? Those aren't the words of anyone outside of fiction

[@garythecyclingnerd6219]

@@danielbyrne5402 He “truthed” on his platform his support for overturning the Constitution.