110 Watt LED vs 1000 Watt Metal Halide Lamp light output comparison | Energy Efficient Area Lighting

[@abhinavbhadange1234]

Note guys, metal halides and halogen bulbs get more efficient at higher wattages.

[@elias689]

That metal halide has blackened arc tube witch causes light loss. Can you try with a brand new metal halide lamp

[@LampLuminance]

And it’s also on the side, which causes there to be less lumens but if it was like pointing up or down it would gain a couple thousand lumens

[@cthomas1864]

I don't see a difference in brightness to me leds aren't worth it to me leds are junk, the ones I have used don't last.

[@DIESELISGREAT15]

I went from led lights way back to old school t12 flurecent lights. Nothing is better than preheat and humming

[@BH4x0r]

stay far away from Philips garbage they even complained leds last too long back in the day they were making halogen and incandescent bulbs i've got gu10 spots from aliexpress that easily outlast the far more expensive philips bulbs i had before

[@ivantheelectrician5296]

Y’all have a point. But a comparison that would be even more fair is to take a 100w LED and a 100W metal halide. Then we all know what the results would be

[@loudspeakertestsmorebyaida3804]

100 watt is about an equivalent of a 250 watt metal halide/high pressure sodium lamp

[@WeNeedSomeMusic]

​@@loudspeakertestsmorebyaida3804 400w

[@loudspeakertestsmorebyaida3804]

@@WeNeedSomeMusic Nah. A 400 watt high pressure sodium is brighter than 100 watt LED, sorry.

[@WeNeedSomeMusic]

@@loudspeakertestsmorebyaida3804 does 3000w sodium vapor/metal halide exist

[@loudspeakertestsmorebyaida3804]

@@WeNeedSomeMusic A 15 watt LED is as bright as a 35 watt high pressure sodium bulb. A 20 watt LED is as bright as a 50 watt metal halide/high pressure sodium lamp. A 30 watt lamp is as bright as a 70 watt metal halide/high pressure sodium lamp. A 40 watt LED is as bright as a 100 watt metal halide/high pressure sodium lamp. A 60 watt LED is as bright as a 150 watt metal halide/high pressure sodium lamp. A 70 watt LED is as bright as a 175 watt metal halide lamp. An 80 watt LED is as bright as a 200 watt high pressure sodium lamp. A 100 watt LED is definitely as bright as a 250 watt metal halide/high pressure sodium lamp. A 150 watt LED fixture will be as bright as a 400 watt metal halide/high pressure sodium lamp. A 240 watt LED will be as bright as a 750 watt metal halide lamp. A 300 watt LED will be as bright as a 1,000 watt metal LED halide/high pressure sodium lamp. A 500 watt will be as bright as a 1,500 watt metal halide lamp. A 600 watt LED will be as bright as a 2,000 watt metal halide lamp.

[@cenchloraadums3143]

Another reason why this test is unfair, apart from those facts already mentioned here : LED lamp is unidirectional and the metal halide lamp is omnidirectional. So only less than 50% of actual light output of metal halide lamp reaches the observed direction. Metal halide lamps are generally less efficient than LEDs, but it's not like 10 times - 1.5 times or so max.

[@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305]

Aparently Mr electrician. Forget about reflectors. Most people seem to go off led and bulb specs.. but a wall pack or flood light has reflectors. Which utilize all sides of the bulb increasing ligjt outout by a drastic amount. Not to mention that metal halide bulb probably hasnt been replaced in 5 years

[@rs12official]

Reflectors: are we a joke to you?

[@yessirsters]

1kw halide lamp uses reflector, 110w led doesnt since it's only in the front

[@alabamabottlediggerandinsu5242]

Still better than led

[@LampLuminance]

Exactly

[@electroimpex8897]

Metal-Halide will last at least 10 times longer...

[@EdmontonRails]

*A 1000 watt Metal Halide lamp produces 110,000 lumens. A 110 watt LED averages between 7000 and 20,000 lumens, with anything higher being difficult to obtain.* The difference is that 500 feet from the fixture, that metal halide lamp will still be illuminating surfaces to some degree. The LED meanwhile will provide nothing more than blinding, retina-frying glare at that distance.

[@rs12official]

Use a new metal halide!!! That weedy little LED may be equivalent to a used metal halide, but what about a new one! This needs to be new vs. new!

[@wrightsingleton8880]

The only advantage to an LED light set up is cost. It puts out inferior light. This damaging to the eyes produces light pollution and fails to light it surroundings as much as it does burning your eyes if you look at it..

[@loudspeakertestsmorebyaida3804]

How hot does this metal halide light get? How does it compare to incandescent?

[@06toyotatundraguy]

Extremely hot

[@Vinnay94]

Have fun fixing the thing when one diode dies fucking up the cicuit. Until we get a Single LED that can match the brightness and intensity of a MH Bulb, this tech is still behind. Great for Flashlights though.

[@LnF4530]

old metal halide bulb?? how is it accurate? you must use new bulb for comparison!

[@WeNeedSomeMusic]

your cheating, you need a brand new metal halide, the current metal halide your holding is already end blackened and corroded, it will be brighter than led if you use a brand new ones

[@troy5568]

It would cause a minimal difference. But you know what would cause a greater difference? Compare a 110-W LED to a 110-W metal halide.

[@edgardmartinez6026]

1 kilowatt that’s crazy.

[@Altamira-Arazz]

That aint fair

[@JiyaurRahman-jq5kx]

Kaha sa khridu

[@CursedSouthwest]

Brand new vs brand new

[@WeNeedSomeMusic]

This is old vs brand new, but yes we need brand new vs brand new, this is not even a fair comparison

[@WeNeedSomeMusic]

@@Choukai_Kai yes

[@WeNeedSomeMusic]

@@Choukai_Kai for more perfect looking, they swap each street light next to a hps to led, so 1 hps 1 led 1 hps 1 led, but that's not only an led, it's a solar led, it's warm white

[@WeNeedSomeMusic]

@@Choukai_Kai that happened to my city at the highway

[@enterprize-zi8dd]

Metal halide bulb is old so it lost its lumens and the leds lose lumens too. Leds also only last longer in theory as in practice they overheat and break. Video is false take this down

[@smartest456]

And the 20000 watt light is☠️💀

[@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305]

There is no way a 100w led is eveb near as bright as a 1000 metal halide... lol. are you chinese ? Must be. Because theyre the ones who plaster 100w replacements for 400+ watt HID lamps. Metal halides problem is it loses a lot of lumen output over time versus high pressure sodium or mercury vapor. However the average LED light from china is 100-120 lumens per watt. Lets do some math here. A 150w metal halide bulb. Luts iff an initial 14k or so lumens. Mean lumens is around 10,000. If you have an led that puts out 120 lumen per watt. Then that 100w led is putting out 12000 lumens. So in essence. That 120w led you put up is 8x dimmer than the 1000 metal halide. Their initial ligjt output is 110,000 lumens. Even with a lumen output drop to lets say 80,000 lumens. an LED at 120 LPW would need to be at 700 watts to equal the same light output. I mean i coukda saved power by dropping the HID to 150 watts and still light up those little parking spaces. NOW LETS add the reflector on that 1000 metal halide which will increase ligjt outout by say 30-50% at least depending on the reflector type. So 80000 + 30% is 104,000 mean lumens. Which means youre led would have to be at 850 watts to equal the metal halide. At thats at 30% reflectivity.. not 50%.. at 50% itll need to be at 1000 watts. In essence your led is now mute. Youre an electrician and you dont know about reflectors ? The only advantage the led has is it immediatly on. And metal halide bulbs need replaced.

[@Vinnay94]

LEDs were rushed. They need cooling, drivers etc. They also still lack the intensity and durability of a MH or HPS. Go to an area where HID and LED co-exist and you'll see that even HPS out throws LED. Only reason HPS look dimmer is the Color Temp and less Lumens. But here's the thing, the LED lamps can't throw for shit unless they have a stupidly sized reflector. Those multi LEDs are a fucking joke and should have been put to be bed ages ago. LEDs in Flashlights are amazing though because they have much more reliable drivers, better cooling and brighter intense diodes. Even HID Flashlights are still competitive with the latest LEDs. When it comes to household lighting, Fluorescent and Incandescent are still the winners here.

[@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305]

@@Vinnay94 Well i dunno about florescent and incandescents for isside a house. Leds are nice there.. but inside a house i noticed LEDS have a delay when you flip a switch and theyre too sensitive to any fluctuation in the houses power causing them to flicker that is veey annoying. Dont forget how LEDS on 99% of these outdoor lights are right in your face. They blind you. LEDS in warehouses and stores have been too undersized to save power and actually make stores darker.. Every lowes ive been in that replaced thwir florescent lights is darker now. I remember when the employees even complained about it. Another thing about LEDS is they are directional. They go one direction and ligjt doesnt scatter or spread evenly like a florescent or hid light. Fish tanks show this perfectly as it creates shimmer in the watee. The shimmer is shadows caused by leds. Florescents dont do this. Leds and reflectors.. i mean maybe the cone shape reflectors in most cheap lights.. but most leds dont have reflectors.. reflectors is what makes florescents and HID lights much much brighter.. Led outdoor bucket lights for example have poor light distribution. Put a 150hps or mercury vapor or halide and 150w led light on a 30 foot pole.. and the LED will yes.. be beighter on the ground directly below. And a little bit outward in a small cone. But the HIDE bucket lights.. will spread the light out 100+ foot diameter circle. I habe 2 175 mercury vapors on a 30 foot utility pole in my driveway. Yes 400w of merciry vapor isnt as bright as as LED would be. But the ligjt apread goes from that pole. To my house porch.. and even all the way to the back of my house 200 feet away. Its dim back there but i can still see. A bucket led cant do that. Hps were ok.. for neighborhoods but sidewalks.. parking garages.. main roads.. parking lots at big stores.. HPS was pretty crap In my opinion. The CRI is just too crappy.. even with a high lumen and long life without degradation of lumens like Halides... I feel hps were used wrongly in many of those situations. And Halides/merciry vapor with the dx coating should have been used for more important areas to light up for safety. Like on my property in my videos. I use HPS all over.. but thats so i have light.. but it isnt an obnoxious white all over my land. If i need the white cri.. ill flip on the nercury vapors and turn on my yes.. LED spot lights. I use those on motion sensors and for 4 corners of the house in case i need emergency ligjting to see things clearer. Once im done i turn those and the mercury vapors off and keep the HPS on the rest of the night. The MAIN main problem with HID ligjts thought is no one replacing the bulbs. I have 5 100w hps GE bucket light fixtures my friend from the power company gave me. All are from 2004/2006 with original bulbs from 2007 or 2008. So in 14 years.. not once did the bulbs get changed.. ever.. Same with the halide on this video.. I see mercury vapors going on buildings.. that are so dim. A simple bulb change would fix this problem. In my old city i liv3d in.. their are 400,000 people living there.. and when i go for walks with my girlfriend.. 40% of the HPS street lights are burned out.. dim.. or blinking off and on. They wont replace them. No one ever replaces bulbs.

[@k20909]

Still will take the led all day

[@planeguy737-1]

i will always take metal halide, hid rules :)

[@horsirex6116]

wrong comparison.. need new metal halide bulb..

[@philiptigkas3518]

Metal halide bulbs are much better !! Reason 1) first of all they last wayyy much longer than the led bulbs that will last les than 2 years. Reason 2) if there is humidity in the fixture it will instantly destroy the cheap circuits inside of the led bulb causing it to mou function and burn out much faster than it’s already sort lifetime. The metal halide bulb has no circuit that can mou function, it only has an arc tube that is insulated air tight from it’s surroundings so no humidity can spoil the bulb Reason 3) if the bulb isn’t good enough that I doubt it, it will start flashing non stop which will be extremely annoying!!!

[@troy5568]

First point's already funnily incorrect. LEDs have a lifespan of at least 20,000 hours, which is by far the longest in any available light technology that we have in the world. And my gosh that energy consumption of metal halide! You're really going to burn a lot of fuel just to run that piece of thing, whereas the LED can be far more relaxed and still achieve the same level of brightness as the high-power metal halide.

[@filippocara0510]

​@@troy5568on the package they say 20.000 hours but they never last that much because they are built really cheaply. If they were built just a bit better they would last a lot longer.

[@filippocara0510]

Anyway, LEDs are a very promising technology. If only the bulbs were built better they would last a very long time. Unfortunately, well-built LED bulbs still cost too much today.

[@eduardoveytia244]

Otra razón por la que los LEDS no duran lo prometido es por qué los usan más de 2 horas diarias Incluso en la caja donde vienen lo dice te durarán lo prometido si los usas 2 horas diarias no más Una diferencia que tienen los LED a las luces incandescentes , fluorescentes, y lámparas de descarga de alta intensidad es que los LEDS duran menos si los usas por periodos largos de funcionamiento a diferencia de las otras tecnologías de iluminación que pueden durar mucho tiempo sin apagarse

[@eddiespagetti8395]

New halide light will be better than led anytime all day

[@LampLuminance]

Exactly

[@gremlin5813]

to hell with LED. HID is way better