1172 - Titanium Flintknapping

[@magnushorus5670]

these videos really are wonderful, its like watching ancient magic... plus they are relaxing and they help me improve as I learn

[@davidudink5104]

Agreed

[@dangunit69]

Titanium is a reactive metal, so any time you get a sliver up above about 800°f it will spontaneously combine with free oxygen and ignite. It burns with a very bright white flash. BTW, it has become fairly regularly available as offcuts on ebay.

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Good to know

[@petepeterson4540]

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[@jeffdowns8431]

I agree with you about the drama in the natural tool community. Most people have an opinion on what and how to use them. I personally feel like if you can use anything to produce an amazing artifact it should be praised as nothing but skill,and you have proved this repeatedly sir. As always another killer video. Thankyou.

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Thanks Jeff

[@jeffdowns8431]

@@KnapperJackCrafty Naw thankyou sir Ireally like your videos and I would give anything to have your level of skill you are truly gifted.

[@williamlake6151]

Spot on jack. The commentary sure made me chuckle. Your simplicity has been welcome here. Hey thks mate

[@robertbowman1419]

I googled up the Titanium and it has meny uses. One major use is in paint to make a white artist paint. It also has dental uses. It's the strength to density and weight which is used in aerospace crafts.

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Yup. I googled it too.😁👍

[@paleoken]

Great video Pat! That titanium performed really well for you on that NAG piece. You turned it into something that I would actually use. The Edwards looks really familiar. Looks like the stuff I find here in Taylor County. It can have very chalky inclusions. But if you find it in solid pieces like that it's very good rock. Ken

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Thanks Ken. I've got mostly NAG nodules now... so I'll need to switch to spalling the hard stuff and making only small points for a while. Just like the old days. Probably with antler sometimes too. Lots of requests for it.

[@BrianJonah88]

Cool experiment. My thought was that it was going to be too loud and chime-y but it seemed to have enough mass to avoid the noise. I've got a titanium ring that sounds like a bell when struck.

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Interesting. I think the sound depends on the alloy.

[@derekhunter5040]

I'd be interested in watching a video on the differences between swiping and gouging. Maybe even one where you explain it on paper, or with words as you say.

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Yeah, I need to do a video on this "with words".

[@dwatson4]

Possibly related….sonic welders use titanium for the tooling in the welder head and base. High frequency energy is sent through the fixture to vibrate plastic between the head and base. Resist fracturing.

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Very interesting. It seems to perform well with relatively little shock to my hand.

[@chuckburroughs6427]

The face of the Ti rod will get harder the more you hit stuff with it. It work hardens pretty quick. Any idea what alloy/grade it is.

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

No idea

[@shanek6582]

Grade 5

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

@@shanek6582 thanks Shane.

[@shanek6582]

Lol, I was just being a smarta$$, didn’t think you’d actually use it.

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Too late.

[@PyroFalcon]

I think a titanium rod for indirect percussion purposes might work better overall than in billet form for direct percussion.

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Could be.

[@allenwingfield]

Looks like the piece of titanium you have depending on grade would cost around $40 for grade 5 to several hundred for grade 2

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Good to know. It's grade 5.

[@slickmullet3891]

Next video “Mokume-gane flint knapping”

[@jeffdowns8431]

Seems like the titanium billet is too hard. Like you demonstrated it doesn't grab or meet the piece you are spaling. Possibly as it wears down it will get better ,but my question is how much of good material will be lost with it versus the aluminum billet? Still a very cool video as always Patrick!!

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Yeah, I'll probably waste an extra 10% or more with this new billet if I use it for my "go to" billet. We'll see. I bought another bar of aluminum, so I'll be making another (larger) billet with it and testing it out. I have a feeling the aluminum will win out. But like you said, maybe the titanium needs to be roughened up a bit.

[@shanek6582]

@@KnapperJackCrafty what size aluminum billet would be the perfect billet, (I’ve got a metal lathe and tons of scrap of different sizes)

[@bobaloo2012]

Titanium is $6 a pound at my local scrap yard, pretty ridiculous new retail pricing.

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Wow. Quite a difference.

[@vernonhess3842]

Less than 3 minutes in to video I wish I had bought titanium futures. You may cause a price spike. Turtlebacking with titanium?

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

You never know...

[@austinjk24]

Stone age meets space age haha interesting stuff !

[@briantaulbee6452]

I can see that titanium slips instead of grips but if it's getting dimpled, that might just be something

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

It feels alright. I like it. Copper might be better but I'm glad it worked out with the Titanium. Interesting stuff.

[@billtr9317]

Wonder how it do on Rholite

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

I might try that.

[@treewizzard]

titanium should be harder than copper but softer than steel, maybe half the weight as steel for the same volume, its also very very tough.

[@shanek6582]

Talking about the natural tool drama, I remember reading in the comment section years ago when Marty was complaining about you not using natural tools and you were simply trying to convey to him that you liked trying different things, I think he might drink a lot at night while commenting because his last comment to you that night was “F@$( you Patrick”…I don’t think iv ever laughed so hard at a comment. He’s smarted quite a few folks off but other times he’s the nicest guy lol. Guess if he weren’t so good at knapping I wouldn’t watch but man he’s good!

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

I'm amazed you remember that. It stuck in my head as well. Yeah, he deleted his comment the next day, I think. If he ever does that again, I'll screen shot it. Otherwise, no one will believe it.😁

[@shanek6582]

@@KnapperJackCrafty some guys drunk dial their X , Marty drunk comments lol.

[@vernonhess3842]

I watch the “natural guys” sometimes and they can be so enthusiastic they sound like an old school Marm very set in her ways. We had a dress code for school in 1960’s and I remember one old school marm measuring the length of girls dresses and boys pants (no shorts and pants more than 2 inches above the shoes for boys. A different country then.

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

@@vernonhess3842 oh yes.

[@PyroFalcon]

Would an aluminum billet work better if cored/filled with lead? Have you ever tried it?

[@dangunit69]

I believe that Edbo guy tried it to get more weight in the aluminum billet.

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Yeah, it's been done. I dont know if I'd like it. The lighter weight of the aluminum is great when I'm knapping all day. A heavy billet gets tiring.

[@PyroFalcon]

@@KnapperJackCrafty I see, makes sense.

[@dalegreenlee1551]

Yes eatting meet is hood for you its a recwierment that we have along with veggies

[@davemartin604]

I have a titanium alloy billet ! It works very nicely for spalling in fact I don't use any thing else it's very heavy and grips very well , I have a golf ball sized piece used as hip replacement ball joint originally, never used !! If you can get hold of one , I have not found anything that works better 😎

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Interesting!

[@thefeatheredfrontiersman8135]

Natural tool videos? I've been waiting forever for this, it'd be so awesome! Natural material community? Well, there are a bunch of "experts" out there. They simply watch a bunch of videos and Then it makes them experts. Seeing and doing are simply two different things. If everyone who has ever seen the Mona Lisa could replicate it, it wouldn't be special. It's proof of how skilled pat is. He makes it look so easy. The mark of a master. But pat, Don't get caught up in jealousy. Because I'd love to see your take on more tools. Go watch the sci show episode on why people do such weird things on the internet. Then starve the pig!

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

If you do a search for "jack crafty abo", you'll find my natural tool videos on this channel.

[@treemanclint2883]

If you try a piece of elkonite, you'd fall in love

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Hmmm

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

I looked into it and you might be right...

[@cliffowens3629]

Dude, you're all over the place. Abo, copper, aluminum and now titanium

[@davidudink5104]

What wrong with that lol

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Always.

[@Zane-It]

Ok titanium that is epic dude

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Hehe... 😁

[@garybaniel9778]

The Flint Stones meet the Jetsons.

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Oh yes.😁

[@sergeantcraphead]

Yessir 😁

[@sticksstonesandalittlemeta3517]

Karen's so true, Ishi wasn't correct for them.

[@watershedwonders1744]

Yeap, when you started out and were getting pitting in the face, i bet its gonna laugh at the file. Those metal guys would call the sound your file made "skating" as in, that steele file was skating on that tutanium billet

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Yeap

[@marycomeau9364]

Nice job with new toy🙃

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Thank yah.

[@marycomeau9364]

@@KnapperJackCrafty Some people may not appreciate how challenging that can be when you have no idea how this will interact on the surface of the rock, and the weight differences will affect the way the subconscious mind controls the forced applied. Right?

[@thefeatheredfrontiersman8135]

Oh and pat one more thing... There have been a ton of " giveaway scammers" all across the primative/ archery/ survival and firearm video community. They say in the comments " previous giveaway winner" txt this number and we ship your prize. They are just trying to scam people out of shipping money or worse. Some of them replicate the channel thumbnail quite well. But as g.i. Joe said " knowing is half the battle*!! I just don't want to see it happening to your channel/ community. Beware!

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

I need to look into that. I've seen it only once before... thanks for the heads up.

[@davedavis3873]

Be careful using your belt sander on the titanium , the edge make catch the blended edge of the sanding belt and tear it , possibly tossing the rod stock out of your hand and causing injury . Looks like jt works great , now I know what my Son can do with all the titanium that I have in my neck and back after cremation completed . Hehehe ... He already claimed cuperage on the metal...hahaha

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Oh dang. 😆

[@dakotahorn9358]

@@KnapperJackCrafty 🤣😂

[@bradkempf5533]

Looks like it woorksi wishi could aford a peace of it

[@shanek6582]

Scrap yard, $5 a pound.

[@chucklearnslithics3751]

Ohhh... There's most definitely a right way and a wrong way to use "natural" material tools. One way works. The other does not.

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

It all works if you're not picky. 😉

[@chucklearnslithics3751]

@@KnapperJackCrafty I mean. You're not wrong. But obviously I have standards, or I'd just use steel and titanium. 😁

[@T.J-and-Soul]

32mm x 100mm titanium rod $60 Au on Amazon.

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Hmmm. Not too bad.

[@shanek6582]

Nope, scrap yard, like $5 a pound.

[@T.J-and-Soul]

@@shanek6582 I'd spend $50 on fuel driving around scrap yards. I've learnt cheap isn't always cheap or efficient.

[@shanek6582]

@@T.J-and-Soul guess you could call them first, scrapyard in palm coast Florida has it though. If a few of you guys want some, I’ll send some to Patrick and he can auction it off with his arrowheads, I’ve got a bucket full that I no longer need.

[@T.J-and-Soul]

@@shanek6582 great idea ✌️💚🍄

[@kerrynixon3968]

TSS, look it up

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

I'm afraid to.

[@BrendaA864]

Wasnt expecting karen to show up.

[@KnapperJackCrafty]

Hopefully she won't. 😉