1177 B.C.: When Civilization Collapsed

1177 B.C.: When Civilization Collapsed | Eric Cline

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@carlhahn3851 3 жыл бұрын

50 years ago I remember my Dad joking about how future archeologists would look at our ruins and think that Barby Dolls were fertility goddesses and TV sets were religious altars.

@buggaboo2707 3 жыл бұрын

@@socialworld1372 Nah, they will just think they are coasters, lol

@dnmurphy48 3 жыл бұрын

@@buggaboo2707 weapons?

@dnmurphy48 3 жыл бұрын

Clever chap your dad :) 👏

@buggaboo2707 3 жыл бұрын

@@dnmurphy48 maybe armor used to mitigate laser guns

@mfjdv2020 3 жыл бұрын

Nice one Carl, as far as TV sets are concerned they damned well nearly are religious altars, the way so many people gather around them and gawp at them for hours on end.

@brianlevor6295 3 жыл бұрын

Wow. Dr. Cline was my professor for Greek History 18 years ago at George Washington University. It was one of the hardest classes I ever took. Dr. Cline offered me no quarter; either I learned a ton of history or I failed. I studied my ass off, got an A on the final, and earned the most difficult 'C' I'd ever receive. It is great watching him now and knowing that I was learning from one of the preeminent experts on this time period in the academic world.

@timfriday9106 3 жыл бұрын

god...i would give anything to allowed a D- in a greek history class taught by Dr. Cline...

3 жыл бұрын

Was it worth it?

3 жыл бұрын

@Hiccum Blurpaedius Wtf is Bob Dole? ... Meanwhile I happened to read on. I gather Bob Dole was a good republican. Hold my beer! I go and fetch my gun ...

@agustinfodrini 3 жыл бұрын

@ Of course not. That is not the way of knowledge. """Educational""" system is garbage.

@thelazy0ne 3 жыл бұрын

Did you turned out to become a historian?

@chefscorner7063 Жыл бұрын

Dr Cline is one of a few Lecturers that are able to keep my interest throughout the entire lecture. His ever-changing tone and interesting facts mixed with a bit of dry humor make it an easy listen. I wish I had more teachers like this while in school.

@adelinad3513 Жыл бұрын

He sprinkled some jokes into a misleading presentation

@PMickeyDee Жыл бұрын

Look into Irving Finkle's presentations. He monopolizes his eccentric Brit persona & is extremely good at keeping an audience's attention .

@Flaseflag911insidejob 10 ай бұрын

I agree.. he is very good as a presenter.

9 ай бұрын

You can't have more teachers like this with those salaries.

@jstray7582 14 күн бұрын

What makes it misleading? I'm genuinely curious @@adelinad3513

@railscenes4959 Жыл бұрын

Just having an amateur interest in history and retired railway conductor I found this info very relevant to our human activity today. I think the video shown at the beginning was probably the same in 1200 BC. Just different technology. Your use of modern analogy, including jokes, and common language made this lecture a pleasure. Thank you. I was employed on the Santa Fe Railway formed by a man in 1869 , Cyrus K. Holiday, who had a vision of trade with Asia. That vision is still a main stay of what we now call intermodal freight traffic or trade. The Santa Fe completed it’s transcontinental link from Chicago to LA and California ports by 1888. Now the BNSF Ry calls the Santa Fe mainline the southern “Transcon”. However, a large portion of the freight is now carried in containers adapted to be loaded onto large container ships on both east & west coast of the U.S. Some of the freight is trans-global, in that containers are off loaded on one coast onto trains. Then transported across the US and reloaded onto container ships too large to navigate the Panama Canal. Then transported to either Europe, Africa and Asia and visa-versa. It forced the railway systems to modernize and the Santa Fe had that vision to have the infrastructure to adapt to the change and increase in freight traffic. They were a bit slow to pick up the ball, but were way ahead of other railway companies in moving priority freight trains on their passenger mainlines much more efficiently. BNSF take over just boosted the investment needed to speed the mainline up even more on the Santa Fe route. So how much evidence has archeology uncovered to show an evolution of methods of transporting raw material and high value trade items? The tin from Afghanistan would have been a tough trip with heavy loads to meet the demand to make bronze. Camels? Carts? Elephants? Were trade routes trampled down hard and leaving a permanent impression in the earth, then paved over by Roman road system? We can only guess, 🤔 I guess?

@BAM-jc7uy Жыл бұрын

Early 2K, I remember leaving CA by car using 10 and seeing freight cars after freight cars heading into California and on the sides was printed "CHINA." Many family members from Los Lunas and Belen area in NM worked for SFRR, and by the late 30s had moved permanently to CA with the job.

@MP-ye6tv Жыл бұрын

@bmrbs2813 Жыл бұрын

tldr

@brianfreel1473 Жыл бұрын

Did you ever run over an alien?

@railscenes4959 Жыл бұрын

⁠@@brianfreel1473 well sadly it depends on your definition of an alien. Unfortunately there were a few Hispanic freight riders who literally “fell thru the cracks”. One incident involved an apparent Hispanic male riding the empty part of the cars that carried the shipping containers. I’d guess he got so tired he fell thru the space between to cross bracing in the floor to the track while the train was traveling 60-70 MPH. I wasn’t a member of the crew and it was hard to determine the cause after the fact as there was no way to know to determine the facts. I never heard any result of the BNSF investigation. Thanks for asking.

@eduardosturla 3 жыл бұрын

Cline is a rare academic, one that can make complicated themes understandable. At the same time make it fun, engaging and makes you want to investigate more.

@Imagio-jw6js 2 жыл бұрын

Academics used to be a dime a dozen, when I was still too young for College. Now they are harder to find.

@aviccilostboy1755 2 жыл бұрын

our civilization is already collapsing our so called elites are doing it on purpose to de=populate the planet they know the magnetic poles are gonna flip and only those living deep undergound will survive SO they dont want any competition to be in that million or two that get a space underground kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5naoHyira18abM

@erickeith1466 Жыл бұрын

Meh. So much of the western historical narrative leaves for more questions than answers, and very dubious at best. For example, up until the mid 1800s, you have many references to the Tartarian empire, including existence on maps of that era, and then it is largely erased from the modern narrative. The Tartarian maps include domain over large parts of what is now Russia and also North America. The language spoken is often said to be an early form of Magyar (currently known now as Hungarian) language. You find in the Americas, evidence of Magyar language spoken by many so-called "first nation" people, who also say, "we aren't the first". What else, also early Spanish maps predating 1850s show the Aztecs had a range from what is today, Salt Lake City to Mexico City. If you look at maps of early American languages spoken, that's exactly what you find. Yet the modern, institutionally supported narrative doesn't follow the facts, but spit out constant spun-up conjecture. Then you have megalithic sites with technology that doesn't match the current narrative, including anthropological findings that support "native mythology" but not "Western" chronological narratives. The explanation? Also, shy is the Smithsonian more secretive than the NSA?

@aviccilostboy1755 Жыл бұрын

@@erickeith1466 yup, All major cities in NA were are probly tartarian. We couldnt rebuild those parliment buildings, cathedrals etc if we tried. Nevermind the secrecy behind space program and disaster cycles one of which is coming up in 20 yrs SuspiciousObservers yt channel

@keithcody9104 Жыл бұрын

@@Imagio-jw6jsno

@MyNameIsRed111 3 жыл бұрын

I was a history major, Middle Eastern and North African studies, and I keep coming back to this lecture. There’s so much incredible information here. Unfortunately, it helps us to understand where we’re headed.

@Brannee248 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. We should always: Look back to the past and find a resolution for securing a new unknown future!

@ashtonhaggitt216 Жыл бұрын

@R C no.

@medexamtoolscom Жыл бұрын

Possibly. But there are so many things that are SO unlike anything that existed in other eras of time, that you really can't conclude that history will repeat itself, even if it is similar in many ways to events that have played out many times before. We could be headed for a societal collapse, or what may well prove to be a minor inconvenience to the bringing about of an ultra optimistic transhumanist future. Only time will tell.

@feedtherich11 Жыл бұрын

Yes we are in big trouble. -- you wrote this a year ago and things have gotten worse-- MAGA Q will take us to the end.

@williammaxwell1919 Жыл бұрын

So what qualifies you to be a profit? Oops, my bad, you understand history

@SoulSoundMuisc 2 жыл бұрын

This was excellent. You can tell someone is a true master of their trade or area of expertise when they can explain the material so simply and elegantly. Bravo.

@steveunderhill5935 10 ай бұрын

And respond to questions from the audience in apa format

@roysabo5319 3 ай бұрын

While I agree with your assessment of Dr Cline, I would caution against the general statement of simplicity/clarity being the mark of a master. All too often I have seen hacks present clearly elucidated over-simplifications that ultimately leave the none-too-wise listener with an incorrect or incomplete understandings.

@brianadler2688 Ай бұрын

I've followed Dr. Cline ever since I took a year long upper division seminar from Eric, and his wife Diane it Portland State University in 1990-91. His wife asked me to go with her to work on a dig at the Athenian Agora, but it just didn't work out. This class was probably the most demanding, but also the best history class I ever took! Thank you Dr. Cline!

@davidderner4201 3 жыл бұрын

Regarding the discussion on iron versus bronze..as a sculptor who pours both bronze and iron regularly I can say that the difference back then was surely the melting temperature..1850F for bronze and 2650F for iron..in ancient times there was no way to cast iron and get to that temp..it was smelted into what was called a bloom and heated red hot and pounded into useful shapes..but not melted..that would take centuries to engineer..also brass was rare because the boiling point of zinc is so close to its melting point that zinc was rarely isolated to create brass..also i really enjoyed this video..cheers...

@greatbingus 3 жыл бұрын

there are surprising early 'blast furnaces' found that can make crude cast iron but yeah the blast furnaces that would give high quality iron and not cast iron were middle ages not what we think of as the iron age but that is the real iron age

@jemborg 3 жыл бұрын

I have no doubt they would have developed the double bellows eventually but they also had an economy revolving around bronze and an upper class invested in it. Think of the push back from big oil or coal and the conservative class over alternative energy even though it's become cheaper.

@criminal7680 3 жыл бұрын

@@greatbingus mate look up iron pillar in India it’s a real enigma. I will blow you away what they think about it

@good-bye_blue_sky 3 жыл бұрын

@@criminal7680 academia won't go near that pillar, just as they avoid most of India. Check out Praveen Mohan

@criminal7680 3 жыл бұрын

@@good-bye_blue_sky yeah you know why because it proves that the technology was there before Jesus was on the cross. And 10.000. Years before. It’s true but they will never speak about it lol

@TheEedjit 3 жыл бұрын

Dr Cline got me into history and archeology. Edit - The guy is a hell of a writer and lecturer, totally keeps you engaged.

@marindancirco6498 3 жыл бұрын

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@Wesson42 3 жыл бұрын

Historians come in all breeds some are magical clerks who can take all works of a time and spin them into something cohesive and congruent, some are detectives who can infer so much out of so little and still be accurate, others are bards/artists who can take the mundane and bring them to life in a way no one else can. With ancient (might as well be Pre-) history you find the detectives en masse, but to actually bring life to a time so empty of literature takes talent of all three, and bravo to you sir.

@marindancirco6498 3 жыл бұрын

@MicahDamger 6 ай бұрын

And others play linguistic games and poach selective facts in order to push a social or political agenda.

@colonel__klink7548 Жыл бұрын

The Tojan war is a fascinating thing because of the cleverness of Homer's epic. This man sung a lie so big, so enthralling that here it is thousands of years later and we have not forgotten the truth. We don't know exactly where the war was fought, that's unimportant, we remember the important aspects. Men of Greece waged a war that lasted for many years and it was so terrible that even when it was over it was not over for the soldiers. They were so scarred by the war that they became lost, unable to truly return home for many years if at all. Thousands of years ago, Homer sung about PTSD... and mocked the very reason why the men paid such a terrible price.

@barnabastoth9283 10 ай бұрын

We do know where the war was fought since Schliemann found the ruins in Anatolia

@colonel__klink7548 10 ай бұрын

@@barnabastoth9283 *he believes they are the ruins of Troy and it's considered quite plausible.

@carlhahn3851 7 ай бұрын

I never thought of the Odyssey as being an epic poetic metaphor about PTSD. But of course it is!

@Tiger74147 5 ай бұрын

Why is the text considered practically religious then as a model for the conduct of men and warriors? People come away from it thinking that Achilles is awesome. The glories of the champions were hailed until the age of gentlemen ended not that long ago. If this was Homer's message, it went far over his audience's head.

@JohnMaxGriffin 2 ай бұрын

@@Tiger74147 Hector is focused on in the story much more than Achilles. Hector is the tragic hero of the Illiad, Achilles is a tragic anti-hero.

@QasimAlKhuzaie 3 жыл бұрын

What I really, really love about this video is that it made me finally understand archeology, and how close it is to forensic science!

@Ralph_Baric_PhD_C2019 3 жыл бұрын

Except that forensics is so incomplete and scattered that's when the extrapolation makes it an art form. History is still written by the winners to project the story they prefer.

@gerulais 3 жыл бұрын

@@Ralph_Baric_PhD_C2019 Don't be small minded man. Who are the winners in this case ? No one. This is just about understanding why those societies collapsed in the 12th century BC.

@brendanwood1540 3 жыл бұрын

Except Canan was actually Palestine, Syria, and Jordan. Not Israel, Syria and Jordan.

@LeeMcLaughlin 3 жыл бұрын

@@Ralph_Baric_PhD_C2019 yyuûy hi

@NickNicometi 3 жыл бұрын

Archaeology

@thomasgilson6206 3 жыл бұрын

Eric Cline is a top rate speaker and presenter. Had me hooked here.

@karenabrams8986 3 жыл бұрын

I love watching someone teach this subject who thinks this is as much fun to learn about as I do. 🥰

@widescreennavel 3 жыл бұрын

This is a gifted man. You can be sure he has influenced many young minds. What a great role model.

@joanpascal7745 2 жыл бұрын

Love learning...

@lastdays2012 10 ай бұрын

youtube.com/@Archaix138?si=3XIeOxMcfz7pZ0L-

@CareyTisdal Жыл бұрын

I read his book, and I wish I had had this narrative before I read it. I have worked on scientific literacy projects, and teaching storytelling is an underrated approach to helping people hang theories and evidence together. As much as I love methods, I think they may need to be a secondary priority in sharing STEM with the general public.

@elizabethannegrey6285 4 жыл бұрын

Eric Cline is such a gifted speaker. He doesn’t waffle, and his lecture in fascinating and fluent. Really interesting. Thank you.

@JDavis-xi3nl 3 жыл бұрын

I had a class with Professor Cline a few years ago, as you can tell he is a fantastic lecturer. Also has a collection of wonderfully thematic ties.

@lisaschuster686 3 жыл бұрын

Where does he get them? I took a fun screen shot.

@arcanondrum6543 3 жыл бұрын

Ask 'the Professor' if he has ever heard of the Cyprus Tree 10:10

@chriswebster24 3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah I’m sure you did, and I was a backup singer for Elvis Presley…There’s no point in lying on KZbin comments. It’s not like it’s gonna get you laid. None of the hoes on here even know who you are. Stop trying to be something you’re not. No one likes a liar, sea person.

@hmq9052 3 жыл бұрын

I'm concerned for his wife. If he rolled on top of her she'd go through the mattress like French fries

@RTSOB1 3 жыл бұрын

@@chriswebster24 Are you suggesting that Professor Cline only spoke to empty classrooms, or that any of his students couldn't possibly discover that he delivered a lecture online?

@hermesknowledgestaff4653 4 жыл бұрын

His book, 1177 BC The Year Civilization Collapsed, is full of informations, and his writing is clear and beautiful.

@Treklosopher 4 жыл бұрын

Just ordered it.

@SolaceEasy 4 жыл бұрын

Poor defense of his book title.

@timishere1925 4 жыл бұрын

@@SolaceEasy Why?

@iwatchtechtutorials5236 3 жыл бұрын

@@SolaceEasy please elaborate, it would be nice to know why you think so. I promise I wont fight you in the comments. Hahaha.

@ryanhoolahan2347 3 жыл бұрын

@RubyBandUSA 2 жыл бұрын

wow, thank you Eric Cline ... and everyone else on camera. This was a breath of fresh air. None of you is "full of yourselves". You are humble, intellectual, succinct, and accessible. Just want to let y'all know it is recognized and appreciated.

@Yeoldelole 11 ай бұрын

HE IS PHENOMENAL!

@OceanHedgehog 2 жыл бұрын

A phenomenal lecture! Dr. Cline is so well versed in the subject that he's able to describe it smoothly and succinctly. A true expert and an academic treasure.

@ajeveryone1232 2 жыл бұрын

Just starting the lecture but that sounds like a paid review...

@aviccilostboy1755 2 жыл бұрын

@philobetto5106 Жыл бұрын

As we are witness to the global collapse of society, of biblical proportion

@johnscanlon2598 Жыл бұрын

@@ajeveryone1232Lmao was thinking the same thing

@CasperScott-qq6ip Жыл бұрын

@@ajeveryone1232not at all. Eric Cline is not only accurate and factual. As others say an expert in his field but he's also fun to listen to. Unlike half to most of my professors as an undergrad

@francisco-ruidacruzcosta5410 3 жыл бұрын

A great lesson for us, today. The thought, the delivery, and the imagery are unforgettable. Pity few of our "Leaders" seem capable of learning from history.

@mfjdv2020 3 жыл бұрын

Well, nobody at all seems capable of learning from history for some reason. Every time there is a war we all say 'never again', famous last words.

@beckyd712 Жыл бұрын

We need to elect better educated more caring people. We need to stop considering their wallets when running for office; having money obviously DOES NOT make good politicians, certainly not great ones.

@henriklarsson5221 3 жыл бұрын

I don´t understand the excitement over old civs trading with eachother. The notion that old kingdoms wouldn´t trade and visit each-other, over vast distances, is just modern hubris. Thinking that we are the peak of societies, and that the people back then didn´t think about exactly what we think today, because they were "backwards". They had the same intellects(if not greater), visions, goals, curiosity etc. People, in small sailboats, travel all over the world today, why wouldn´t mighty empires with HUGE sailboat, vast fortunes and extreme experience do the same? The Egyptians, the greeks, the Israelites, the Romans, the Chinese etc. All of them traveled to all continents of the world. Just because you´re not shown "evidence", in form of stone tablets/carvings/books etc, does not make it so. I hiked for hundreds of miles last year, with my feets(!), and there is no records of it! I´ve read of people walking for thousands of miles to escape from the Gulags in deep Russia, and survived to talk about it! If they could build pyramids, colosseums, hanging gardens, vast cities etc, then they could sail the oceans and explore. And don´t give my anything about "them being afraid of falling of the edge of the world, so they didn´t go", knowing mankind, that would only trigger us more to defy the warnings and go there...

@angry-white-men 3 жыл бұрын

It's exactly what future generations will see this generations as. Everything is now recorded so all future generations will think how stupid people were in these times to believe things like the covid scam and the likes.

@kelcritcarroll 3 жыл бұрын

@@angry-white-men you mean how stupid that many people were to not protect themselves from a deadly desease even as they watch gamily die from it…..

@medic8377 3 жыл бұрын

@@kelcritcarroll I'll admit, they had us in the first couple innings there. I stayed home for about a month (while the disease hadn't really spread yet). After a while, my family and I considered the 99.8% survival rate of this "pandemic disease" and not I, or anyone I know have worn a mask, except when absolutely necessary for over a year and a half. And, of the 100 or so people I'm family or close friends with (5-80 years old), only 2 have had it and neither of them even really felt sick. But to hear the media talk (incessantly! - OHHH, Be AfRaIiIiId!!) we should all be dead by now. Knowing what I know now; that those who die from it have an average of 6 (SIX!!!) co-morbidities - meaning God only knows what ACTUALLY killed them; that masks don't actually work; that lockdowns don't actually work; and that the numbers the govt has been putting out there this whole damn time have been total BS (PCR cycle threshold), I'm glad I didn't stay "locked down" for longer than I did. I've been doing side work this whole time and I've been killin' it! I work with a dozen truck drivers who travel around the country all day, every day and none of them have even been sick. Explanation, please?

@TacticusPrime 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, but that's idiotic. You can't just claim, "they could build large stone piles so they could obviously sail to the other side of the ocean." Those two things aren't at all related. History is not a video game. Technology and industry are not linear processes.

@ch355_ 3 жыл бұрын

@@TacticusPrime i can’t speak for the person to whom you were replying. but, as for your comment, there is interesting and unexplained evidence that links megalithic structure builders with a common pictogram writing across the globe from the great pyramid to south america to easter island in the pacific. not trying to refute your comment, but it is an interesting thing.

@melissarainchild Жыл бұрын

He makes the old cultures come alive, sublime!

@nickpalmer7491 10 ай бұрын

Dr Cline's voice, as well as his easy-to-understand delivery of his topic, reminds me of Carl Sagan.

@BrianJ. Жыл бұрын

What a great video to watch on this sunday morning!

@karolw.5208 Жыл бұрын

This must be the most viewed video about archeology on YT, 2.3 million people at least opened it. Not surprising, this man is amazing!

@oscarchinnick5314 5 ай бұрын

😂

@marshawilcox5815 3 жыл бұрын

This was fascinating! Eric Cline was very clear, and engaging. I was hesitant when I saw the length of this lecture, but -- totally worth every second! Thank you!

@russelledwards001 2 жыл бұрын

It’s nice to watch something longer than 10 minutes

@Michael-qy1jz 2 жыл бұрын

He didn't mention paying global warming / climate change taxes to Al Gore back then! Lol. Cooler water temps = less rain he stated. Hit me like a ton of bricks because the climate whackjobs don't talk about warmer cycles bring in tons of food and it's the cold and Ice ages that destroy life

@scottybee33 3 жыл бұрын

Fascinating and presented by such a compelling speaker / historian. Thank you for posting.

@westho7314 2 жыл бұрын

Thoroughly enjoyed Eric Clines clear & concise narration & style of delivery in context, melding patterns of the past covered by a larger footprint of the present, hence envisioning the distinct possibilities for our future as an interconnected interdependent global civilization. The recent destruction of existing ruins from the ancient past in a recent wave of destruction by in

@paulheath885 Жыл бұрын

That stuff is called 26 letters there is a lot of it online most everything from popular culture is also I wouldnt get worried about it Buddhists arent real they are very gay and super weird basically all of them are witches I am not apologetic for all the clones from master race culture who are on the other side mainly radical islam is the labeled culprit any of that is scary wrong and fake but the point is most people who say they are interested in that stuff cant pick it up on the go and get through to someone who cant go to any page and basically find the point of what the whole thing is about what I mean is if your smart enough to skim through the entire thing then anything you pick up and tell a random person about who has a question should mean something and worth their time meaning the Koran is basicaly no different from the Urantia Book and the Urantia is something that no one is interested in or has any interest in the first place what it could have been used for I am not sure but the point is they are almost one in the same

@piyushan_abeynayake Жыл бұрын

Interesting topic and the presentation by Dr. Cline was very engaging. I'm glad this video popped up on my KZbin Home page this day. Wishing everyone an insightful 2023.

@SachinGanpat 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic talk. I learned so much in that hour or so I swore it was a 3 hour talk. So much insight into our present as well.

@sergio_grez 3 жыл бұрын

So amazing and entertaining!!!! Mr. Eric Cline has the power of teach his knowledge in a manner that you forget he's been talking for an hour. I could listen to him an entire day without thinking of anything else. Such an interesting topic and also how important it is for us at the present times. Incredible and passionate presentation, didactic and clear.

@guygordon2780 Жыл бұрын

Yes, but I did get a bit tired of every question being answered "all of the above" or "both". :-) Now, I have to admit that's an honest and sometimes correct answer. But more often, in the real world, when you have 5 things supporting something that falls, there's one thing that caused or started it. So the best answer is "we don't know yet which one."

@alquinn8576 3 жыл бұрын

i love these old-time tweets he reads off those clay slabs

@dreyn7780 3 жыл бұрын

Talking-to birds, are you? Cheap cheap.

@markobarko77 3 жыл бұрын

Letters, let us not ruin all with stupidity of twitter. Thank you.

@1CT1 3 жыл бұрын

Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and you will be saved. John 3:16 (share the good news of the gospel around the world!) Have a wonderful day/night, may the LORD bless you all, and farewell!,.,,,,,,,.,.,.,

@someguy4405 3 жыл бұрын

@@1CT1 Thanks for the concern over our immortal souls but I think you might be a little off-topic.

@onelittleplum 3 жыл бұрын

@@someguy4405 it’s just a bot. 😤

@MatthewZimmerman-om5yi Жыл бұрын

By far one of the greatest talks, I never wanted it to end. Just absolutely astounding.

@lastdays2012 10 ай бұрын

youtube.com/@Archaix138?si=3XIeOxMcfz7pZ0L- real history

@joeforeman3027 2 жыл бұрын

Resilient factors: -Interdependent economy -interdependent cultures -rise of literacy -rise of skilled workmanship -maturing ethical self-control

@irishcreamkb1 3 жыл бұрын

I need more of these lectures by Dr. Cline!

@wernerschroer6138 3 жыл бұрын

The iron dagger in King Tut's tomb derives with high certainty from an iron meteorite. A recent study using X-ray fluorescence (XRF) spectrometry determined that Tutankhamun’s dagger was made with iron containing nearly 11 percent nickel and traces of cobalt: a characteristic of extraterrestrial iron found in many of the iron meteorites that have rained down on Earth for billions of years.

@Tyrs_Finox 2 жыл бұрын

Fascinating lecture, thanks to Eric Cline for putting it together and the Long Now Foundation for hosting it. I especially found the earthquake sequence to be interesting as I had not heard of this before in the context of the late bronze age collapse. Not sure yet if it's in his book but I had the thought that earthquakes would have wrought havoc on the un-reinforced masonry and mud-brick walls that the cites of these civilizations depended on for protection. This would have helped the sea peoples (or any other invaders in that period) to undermine, batter down or otherwise assault those settlements. I bet someone could write a paper just on that, and I would love to read it.

@sidstovell2177 Жыл бұрын

Earthquakes still destroying adobe brick buildings in Mexico.

@oldschool8432 3 жыл бұрын

I know very little about archeology but enjoyed this talk immensely

@brendanwood1540 3 жыл бұрын

Canan was actually Palestine, Syria, and Jordan. Not Israel, Syria and Jordan.

3 жыл бұрын

@@brendanwood1540 No you're a dunce he's a professor.

@brendanwood1540 3 жыл бұрын

@ A bias religious scholar. You and him are trying to pretend that Palestine was not a nation and that it was not inhabited for thousands of years before the state of Israel was established in 1948. Without any evidence, besides biblical history, you claim that Israelites occupied the area before 1276 BCE. However, for the period of time while it was called Canaan, the Canaanites were not Israelites. The region of Canaan did not include Israel. Back then it was Palestine. If you want to try to pretend that they didn't exist. That's like claiming South America is Spanish. Interestingly in history the genetic haplotype actually migrated from Europe at some point in time eventually developing their own cultures in South America. These included the Olmec, Aztec, Inca, Maya, and Norte Chico people. Thousands of years passed and then Europeans came to invade the land despite no actual direct relations to the local people. They could claim that it was always a Spanish colony made of Europeans and just disregard all the things that happened in between. This is what you are saying here. Cultures and people who existed in a place for thousands of years are not real. You claim that because at some distant point in history your ancestors may have occupied the same land it has always been yours and the people who lived there in between have no right to it. Seems more than a little selfish.

3 жыл бұрын

@@brendanwood1540 You're a knuckle dragging simpleton.

@brendanwood1540 3 жыл бұрын

@ You're a cocky narcissist.

@carolynrosser1574 2 жыл бұрын

This was really fascinating, I was so engrossed I didn’t notice the time and was surprised when he finished. The sign of a great speaker is when you don’t believe it finished so quickly because it is so interesting. I could have listened for another hour, such a brilliant explanation. Thank you, I will watch out for more topics from this channel.

@Justin.Martyr Жыл бұрын

*Soooo, When is FukBut GOD, going to DO AnyThing????*

@lastdays2012 10 ай бұрын

youtube.com/@Archaix138?si=3XIeOxMcfz7pZ0L-

@musashidanmcgrath Жыл бұрын

I was just in the Thessaloniki museum 2 days ago and the most recent archeological research reveals that the 'dark age' theory - at least in Greece - may be incorrect. Although the monumental/palacial cities may have been destroyed, new polis sprang up on the ruins almost immediately. Macedonian Greece was not as affected as was previously thought, and certainly didn't suffer a 'dark age'.

@hexatorus5452 Жыл бұрын

This guy is awesome. He gives credit to so many other people. You rarely see this and instead see speakers usually give credit to themselves for everything. And he's humorous and makes this story so interesting. Society is lucky to have this person around.

@lastdays2012 10 ай бұрын

youtube.com/@Archaix138?si=3XIeOxMcfz7pZ0L-

@lastdays2012 10 ай бұрын

youtube.com/@Archaix138?si=3XIeOxMcfz7pZ0L-

@mish_m7619 4 жыл бұрын

wonderful talk. loved the subject and the presentation, and both of them. and no adds, pure delight.

@MrMichiel1983 3 жыл бұрын

@Dr Evil Where did that come from, Dr. E? Perhaps your own white cat ran away and now you want to find a new one? Might I suggest a pet store... Also, how come you think it's remotely competent to complain about someone else's life, when you immediately show you have none either by making a troll comment under an archaeology video. A good roast shouldn't include self-immolation, you know.

@jamesfcarlton6890 3 жыл бұрын

*Did you failed SPELLING❓Kat instead of CAT❓And it’s whatever not wutever MORON.*

@MrMichiel1983 3 жыл бұрын

@Dr Evil Heey Dr. E, you should heed your own advise. "Go out, get drunk, get laid, get a good nights rest... You will have a different perspective on it.". Clearly such reasoning goes both ways, doesn't it? You really must hate your own life, because the first thing you say to people is "get a life, moron"... Well, why don't you do exactly that yourself, Dr. E? All you're doing right now is lashing out to someone on the internet, hoping that they strike back and confirm to you that the world is a bad place. Pretty sure it will get worse and worse if you continue on this road, Mr. So do yourself a favor and read this comment over and over again like a rhyme, like a mantra, until you get it that you don't need to respond to me to feel better, you need to address your own issues. It's a self-defeating argument to denote someone else's reasoning as just an opinion, and subsequently not address the issue that your own comment thereby also is reduced to opinion. It's a little narcissist. See, "Remember, your opinions are just that, opinions..."... This makes me think you lack true self-worth, because you don't say "people's opinion" in defense of everyone, no you say "your opinion" attacking me as some sort of pre-emptive defense of only yourself. At least I trolled a troll to feel better, you just puke on everyone, don't you, including yourself? Finally, you say "Get a life moron, you probably have a collection of cats don't you?" and then follow up with "How in the hell did cats enter into the observation/conversation...?".... How do you even muster up the courage to speak of my attention span, whilst your own is just about futile? If you say stuff like that, it's not really an opinion that you suck as a troll, it's a fact. There is logic and evidence supporting that, not vague remarks of vogue and fashion. If you knew anything about fashion at all, you would have known most evil geniuses have white cats for purposes of being evil in style. I see pop culture references only make it as far as your profile name and picture... Help yourself, Dr. E. really.. Otherwise things will never brighten up for you anymore.. Turn that troll into stone with some nice sun... Maybe some day you will realize that you should really thank me for taking the time to explain this to you. I will thank you in the meantime, because I now have a solid piece of advise to apply to myself. You see, I do apply my own reasoning to my own position, contrary to some people. Thanks for being my beast of burden. Troll of trolls out.

3 жыл бұрын

@Allah is Satan(Saturn); Mahomet=Baphomet Your doctor said "Repent, rupture is at hand".

@marindancirco6498 3 жыл бұрын

@badjujuforever 11 ай бұрын

i could listen to these guys talk while I fall asleep every night

@frederikspudnik1792 3 жыл бұрын

Regarding bronze vs iron The speaker makes a really good point about "a sharp edge is a sharp edge." Don't forget we are talking iron here, not steel. Not to say that carbon didn't get into the iron at all, but people hadn't quite figured out steel yet. So while iron is harder than bronze, it's not like steel. Like bronze, iron is given to bending as well as requiring frequent sharpening (though less frequently w iron).

@emte5676 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Long Now Foundation. Great presentation! Did read some of Mr. Cline's book. It is a serious book. His fun humor comes across in his lecturing. I think the details of ancient civilization are so interesting, even more interesting than the theories about it. The high points of his view on the fall of the ancient nations caught in a perfect storm of challenges are much more accessible in this talk compared to the very densely written book.

@krumplethemal8831 2 жыл бұрын

I have some questions. 1. Was the famine localized? If yes, where? 2. Was the drought localized? If yes, where? 3. How do you win a war and collapse? 4. Is disease ever considered?

@baneverything5580 2 жыл бұрын

There have been very common wild swings in temperature discovered in ice core data, regular massive volcanic eruptions, massive cosmic radiation events revealed by tree ring data, and space impacts are far more common than they`re admitting. See documentaries about 536 A.D.. Our civilization will end sooner than people think and nothing is being done to soften the coming blows.

@tim40gabby25 Жыл бұрын

A pandemic affecting young males might fit the bill..

@tim40gabby25 Жыл бұрын

@@hexagongroup Indeed. I'm drawing parallels with that bronze age collapse and the fact that presently poorly transmissible avian flu kills 73% of those few infected, mostly young folk. 3 mutations later, we might have another collapse. Unlikely, of course.

@gregwilliams2746 3 жыл бұрын

One thing the Professor noted in as missing from the the list of things that caused system collapse in 1177 BC was plague. It is interesting that April 2020 was too early in the pandemic for the Professor to add it to the list of calamities present last year when comparing them with those of 1177 BC.

@katiewoodfield7768 3 жыл бұрын

Another thing missing when considering parallels between the Bronze Age and our current collapse is the role of 21st century technology. It could be argued that social media and internet-based business model has generated modern day “sea peoples,” aka hackers, who raid the infrastructure of our community with disinformation, viruses and cyber-piracy.

@marindancirco6498 3 жыл бұрын

@albanyorganics3030 2 жыл бұрын

Plandemic

@tim40gabby25 Жыл бұрын

Indeed. C19 didn't keep young males out of armies or the fields, as it turns out.

@westho7314 Жыл бұрын

Huge difference in those long ago historical pandemics with casualties being in the tens if not hundreds of millions. 25-75 million plague victims died soon after first contact by the old world and their all encompassing conquest of the Americas by those filthy, greedy Eurocentric rats.

@ChrisKing25 3 жыл бұрын

This was an absolutely amazing lecture! And I believe he has pointed out very clearly issues that we are currently facing today.

@mvies77 3 жыл бұрын

@Hiccum Blurpaedius Judy Garland does not like them either but she is dead now but the witch melted from the polluted water which is rising because it is cold and the scarecrow is on fire in the tornado but 4 or 5 Fauci ouchies will help Aunt Em and Toto, too.

@tsriftsal3581 2 жыл бұрын

@@stevendavidstoffers2679 normalization of risk

@Primus-ue4th 2 жыл бұрын

…. Anything specific?

@aviccilostboy1755 2 жыл бұрын

@thomasrial4444 Жыл бұрын

@@Primus-ue4th only 2 countries on the planet that are part of the modern world and heavily rely on the supply chain aren’t going to have a population crisis in the next 10 years. (USA and New Zealand) aging population and no one to replace them in the work force because they literally don’t exist because people had less kids. Even the USA and New Zealand will have problems from this though so don’t treat them like they are completely safe. A global debt crisis that every country in the world is dealing with and now starting to suffer from. Countries like Russia going to war at a terrible moment in history and getting more of their own people killed than even achieving anything. China massive population has the possibility of dropping to 600 million in 10-30 years and they are a huge producer of world goods. Their population is dropping because of how many people are old compared to young (they have the worst situation in the world). Covid sent a shock through the supply system and now China is now dealing with 7 different variants at once because of how they isolated themselves back in 2020 and now the consequences are appearing. World governments trying to limit how much farmers use nitrogen for fertilizer which in turn is setting up a large food reduction approaching over the next year because farmers weren’t allowed to use the fertilizer that’s been feeding the planet. These are avoidable because it’s already occurring unfortunately

@donaldneill4419 2 жыл бұрын

Outstanding presentation and discussion. Nice to see academics keeping an open mind and acknowledging when we don't know what we don't know. And a great take on the practicalities of iron vs. bronze. "How sharp is an iron vs. a bronze dagger?" "Does it matter when it goes into you?" Iron is better, obviously, but it's much harder to produce (higher temperatures, alloys, etc.), and so you wouldn't necessarily want to use it if bronze gives you the 90% solution. But if tin becomes impossible to find...

@ResidualSelfImage Жыл бұрын

Bronze is more economical and affordable than iron - iron's strength only becomes noticeable when used for weapons. The upgrade from bronze to iron/steel would be an obvious military upgrade.

@DavidJJames Жыл бұрын

Don't bring a bronze weapon to an iron weapon fight.

@JJONNYREPP Жыл бұрын

1177 B.C.: When Civilization Collapsed | Eric Cline 1117am 17.5.23 they must have headed to Uk to seek out the much desired tin... other than that i doubt greek or roman recce expeditions would result in anything other than this land being seen as a home for wild savages and crap weather... eventually the Uk realises it was used and abused for something - it couldnt quite conclude what...

@danielleriley2796 2 жыл бұрын

I believe and have heard elsewhere that late Bronze Age bronze was actually superior or a bit harder than early Iron Age iron. Also you don’t change the base metal of society over night and change doesn’t happen everywhere at once. It would filter around the known world over time. Just think that iron was mined or picked up at one place and processed nearby. That area would be using that iron in everyday life first probably because it’s what they have and it doesn’t require import. This would make it cheaper. Then you wouldn’t export this stuff till you have enough of an excess. Then this gets exported. Small excesses get exported to close places since the freight charges and difficulties would be covered by small export quantities. Once the close market is satisfied then you e port further and further. This has iron filtering across the lands as excess production brings down the price. Then low prices means further transport becomes easier and cheaper. Remember your competing with bronze which has a single source for tin a long way away and freight must have been prohibitive. I thought king tuts dagger was meteoric iron? Testing and all.

@boblowney 3 жыл бұрын

I've taught for many years and I am so glad to see that good educators such as Dr. Cline use humor to enhance their effectiveness. I always told my students that Jerry Seinfeld was my muse when creating my lectures.

@lastdays2012 10 ай бұрын

youtube.com/@Archaix138?si=3XIeOxMcfz7pZ0L-

@vanodne 2 жыл бұрын

What a wonderful lecture, and great question session afterwards. Well done!

@craighunnel3016 Жыл бұрын

I have been in the midst of reading this book when I came across this Very intriguing I do have to say that the dismissive attitude towards the exodus is a bit puzzling Because I believe it may be the key component that ties it all together Especially with such a large displacement of a people group Trade routes disrupted even halted Economic collapse of Egypt and the entire region from Egypt to Syria But that is a discussion for another day I thoroughly enjoyed watching and learning today from a deep learned scholar and archeologist like Dr Cline

@JJONNYREPP Жыл бұрын

1177 B.C.: When Civilization Collapsed | Eric Cline 1138am 17.5.23 i bet he didnt even know he was on facebook..

@geoffcounihan7093 3 жыл бұрын

"So, you may know people you don't even know you know." Hah, this guy is an entertaining as thoughtful. Love it

@hallahavohej2464 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah he knows what his talking about

@tombombadil3185 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent lecture. Nothing but superlatives for this presentation! Well worth the time.

@jimFcooper 3 жыл бұрын

X2. +1algrithm point

@Honorablebenaiaha 3 жыл бұрын

I just wished he was a person of color.

@Honorablebenaiaha 3 жыл бұрын

The we could trust.

@p1gnone66 3 жыл бұрын

@@Honorablebenaiaha i just wish you didn't see color

@suedenim6590 3 жыл бұрын

Utter horse sh1t to deceive morons. Google Gobeki Tepi. According to this sweaty lying chode, hunter gatherers knocked it up one lunch hour 9500 years ago fortuitously exactly in line celestially. PLEASE DONT FALL FOR THE UTTER BS THE MAINSTREAM TELLS YOU. Your eyes and brain can easily tell you it's lies unless you're too dumbed down and far gone already (that's why they call the TV programming). These charlatans should be ashamed of themselves. I bet your mother is proud you've spent your entire life lying and misleading your entire species well done you 👏 👏 👏

@gerardocamacho9994 3 жыл бұрын

When anyone tries to explain what happened with the Mayan people, he/she might find that it's the same that happened to the Egyptians: The center of civilization(read as the mine of the most important resource) collapsed and drag everything with it. Hittite might seem to be less important than Egipt, but in fact, it was a symbiotic coexistence. When the capital of the Anahuac felt, it dragged the rest of the civilizations with it. Most of them had a Rennaissance, but it was built around mysticism and not by science. Antique people used science as it meant to be but after the colapse, mysticism was the rule.

@laurapope3685 Жыл бұрын

This was an awesome watch! Thanks for always putting out such great videos! Can't wait for the next one! Until next time!

@adelinad3513 Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you liked it.. I see most of the comments from this year see through the bunch of misleading info

@unreliablenarrator6649 Жыл бұрын

Western centric view of history & trade. Meanwhile in Asia, trade was buzzing, and the Chinese Bronze Age, which far exceeded the metallurgical technology and production scale of Mediterranean Bronze Age, was in full swing. Not that this negates Clines hypothesis, but to note that other societies did not experience decline in parallel during that timeline.

@czperiod2576 3 жыл бұрын

I have had the pleasure of meeting him and hearing him speak a year ago. Amazing man, amazing topic, wish I had become and archaeologist.

@mkayokay3192 3 жыл бұрын

I used to snooze and sigh through anthropology classes. Now I wish it had been my major!

@0649Hayes 3 жыл бұрын

I suppose trump followers will be the same when we fall!

@mkayokay3192 3 жыл бұрын

@@0649Hayes what? Did TDS just make its way into the comments on this archeology video? Amazing 😂

@chriswebster24 3 жыл бұрын

@@0649Hayes Comments like that are part of the reason why no one likes you. This video has nothing to do with the bad orange man, but you are so obsessed with him that you just had to mention him, anyway. That’s unbelievably pathetic. I just thank God that the TDS you’re infected with isn’t contagious, because I’d rather have Covid and AIDS at the same time, than to have to deal with an illness as embarrassing as that. I feel so bad for your family. Your crazy obsession with the man who used to be president has to be seriously humiliating to them. They aren’t the ones who were so ignorant and gullible that they allowed themselves to become brainwashed, yet now, thanks to your sick obsession, people can’t help but look at them differently, too, I’m sure. It’s not fair to them, at all, but you can’t really blame people for wondering if genetics are to blame for you being so simple-minded. It’s a shame, too, because I’m sure some of them are probably decent people, who actually have some common sense, and the ability to think for themselves. I really hope they find a cure, soon, for the sake of all your loved ones, and everyone else that’s suffering from the humiliation of having a relative with TDS, as well. They didn’t do anything stupid, and they don’t deserve this. You deserve every bit of the ridicule, though, because you were the fool who trusted the propaganda, and you were the one who didn’t have enough sense to consider that there might be another side to all the stories you heard. They told you the bad orange man colluded with Russia, and you just knew it was true. You saw his mean tweets, and you heard that private conversation he had, when he joked around with another man on a bus, and you were appalled. You heard about how he was a racist, and about how he had slept with a lot of beautiful women when he was younger, and you were disgusted. When he won the presidency you were heartbroken for your country, wondering how such an awful man could have been elected, when, instead, we could have had a president with good morals, and picture-perfect family values, like Bill Clinton’s wife. You figured it was probably all because of sexism, but then, you heard that it was possibly the work of Vladimir Putin, who was secretly best buds with the bad orange man, and, suddenly, it all made perfect sense to you. You knew that Russians weren’t supposed to vote in our elections, and you were furious that it had happened that way, so you did what any good, patriotic American would do, if they heard something that ridiculous, and there wasn’t any evidence to support it, and you made it clear to everyone you talked to, right away, that the president-elect was “not your president,” and you were right. Then, you continued saying that, even after you weren’t right anymore, and you said it for the next 4 years. Long after he had become your president, you still made it a point to stand up for what’s right, and say “not my president,” even though he obviously was. You knew that if the election had been fair, and the Russians hadn’t been allowed to vote in it, he could’ve never defeated a real leader, like Bill’s old lady, in more than 30 states like he did. You considered leaving the country, because you couldn’t stand the idea of a person of orange color making America great again, but then, you remembered that there wasn’t any better countries to go to, so you made the brave decision to stay, and try your very best to make it through the next 4 years of hell, doing anything you could to survive the nightmare of America becoming great again. You courageously told yourself that you’d give the deep state one more chance to hold a fair election, and if the outcome of that one wasn’t fair enough, you’d have no choice but to threaten to leave the country again, before eventually deciding to stay. Fortunately, you didn’t have to worry about doing anything drastic like that, though, because this time, the good, totally unbiased men and women, and other genders in the deep state, made sure that there was no funny business allowed, and we had a totally fair election. It was so fair this time, in fact, that literally everyone agreed that it was fair, except for one candidate, all the people who supported him, and some other folks who didn’t necessarily support him, but still wanted a fair election, anyway. All the Democrat politicians made it very clear, that it was the very mostest fairestest election that there has ever been, ever ever ever, in the whole entire history of fair elections, and all the honest, totally unbiased political activists/news reporters, who actively support all those same Democrat politicians, along with the same Democrat candidate they all supported, but clearly had no dog in the fair election fight, confirmed that what all the Democrat politicians they support said was true. Finally, the bad orange man, who “wasn’t your president,” would actually not be your president anymore, and we would soon have a leader who won fair and square, and who wasn’t a dumb old racist pervert, like the last guy, who was also bad and orange. Thank the Big Bang, or the great transgender illegal alien Buddha, or whatever it is that people like you worship, we now have a president who is incredibly sharp, energetic, always knows what he’s doing, and where he’s at, has never once said or done anything racist, and has absolutely never fondled tons of women and children inappropriately, either behind closed doors, or right in plain sight, on video, repeatedly, for the whole world to see. It sure is a good thing those crazy Trump supporters didn’t get their way again, isn’t it? Oh, I almost forgot to even mention, the new guy knows Barrack Obama, the first half-black president, personally, and he even claims to be his friend. It definitely doesn’t get any cooler than that! We are all certainly in good hands now, but especially any little girls that get to meet the president. He really loves it when they sit in his lap and rub his hairy legs, as he’s whispering softly into their ear, and sniffing their hair. It’s wonderful having an intelligent man who is so good with kids in office, isn’t it? He actually seems as excited to meet them, as they are uncomfortable to have him rub and sniff them. It’s so funny how he always pretends to flirt with the cute little girls, and he tells them silly things, like how he wants to date them. It’s really sweet to see how he just automatically starts grooming any kid he’s around, and does his best to make them feel safe. It seems like it comes totally naturally for him, and you can definitely tell it’s genuine. I’m sure any parent would be thrilled to have a man just like him to babysit their kids. I’m telling you, this elderly, creepy, incompetent joke of a president we have now is just a really, truly great guy, any way you look at it. There’s absolutely no doubt that everyone knows this by now, but if you didn’t vote for Brandon, you ain’t stupid! I mean come on man! This ain’t a joke. Corn Pop was a bad dude. He was an African-American, and he respected me. I’m not joking. This is a big f*cking deal. Come on man!!

@RTSOB1 3 жыл бұрын

@@chriswebster24 Well, it's clear someone in this thread is obsessed. I'll weigh one sentence against 12 paragraphs and draw my own conclusions.

@gregoryrogalsky6937 3 жыл бұрын

Another great video Eric . Your such an amazing teacher. Stay strong brother.

@leonelguitian401 3 ай бұрын

Lovely one! Thank you! Regards from México.

@amouramarie 3 жыл бұрын

Very interesting! But _for those predisposed to panic, remember:_ the collapse described here may well never have happened if they'd had airplanes and tankers able to ship goods around the planet in hours, or if they'd had trade with the Americas, Asia, or Australia. Our safety is in our connectedness being much greater than theirs. A few strands of hair will snap under pressure where a thick, braided rope of it will not.

@alexcarter8807 3 жыл бұрын

The difference is we have oil and electronics. A good solar flare will take care of the latter, and the former is running out.

@amouramarie 3 жыл бұрын

@@alexcarter8807 Sure, and one good asteroid can end everything. But as far as reasonable fears are concerned, we can deal with them.

@zeromancer-x 3 жыл бұрын

A truly fantastic lecture. Many thanks, Professor.

@michaelcap9550 Жыл бұрын

1177 BC? There are videos on YT that say 536AD is actually the worst year.

@jimcraig9882 2 жыл бұрын

The late bronze age collapse is fascinating, such a brilliant lecture by Dr Cline.

@lindadee2053 10 ай бұрын

An excellent overview of The Fall of the Bronze Age. I had heard some of these ideas and stories presented over the years, but Dr Cline weaves much of it into a tapestry that makes events easier to follow and understand. Archeology has been of interest to me for many years, but understanding "why" times change based on both human behavior and natural events really helps one to visualize the chain of events that played the most significant parts in how and why societies change or undergo changes over which they actually have little control. A very interesting and highly educational lecture. Thanks to all who helped to make it possible to bring to YT. 😊

@envagyok8252 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mr. Cline! This lecture was amazing!

@EliWCoyote 2 жыл бұрын

1:24:55 "Motel of the Mysteries"!! I remember Reader's Digest did an excerpt from that story back in the 80's or so, and it really stuck with me...never expected somebody to bring it up! It was brilliant. They "discovered" that the "ancient burial site" (motel) was surrounded by outward-facing guardians to protect and defend the tomb, with names like "Firebird", "Falcon" and so on... 😂

@danielleriley2796 2 жыл бұрын

Second time I’ve watched this video. I’m really into this era just as a hobby and the idea of such long lead times for messages and the trust that they were legitimately from the person that it said they were from amazes me. So I purchased your book right now from Apple iBooks.

@lastdays2012 10 ай бұрын

youtube.com/@Archaix138?si=3XIeOxMcfz7pZ0L-

@alienautopsy9326 3 жыл бұрын

Eric Cline is a genius. Amazing how he pieced all this together.

@PeterPete 3 жыл бұрын

it's easy, alot of it was from his imagination!!

@randomname3109 3 жыл бұрын

@@PeterPete you are a professor of what??

@PeterPete 3 жыл бұрын

@@randomname3109 a professor in identifying BS!!

@randomname3109 3 жыл бұрын

@@PeterPete understood, so you dont know a thing

@PeterPete 3 жыл бұрын

@@randomname3109 well eric cline wasn't around in 1177BC to have known anything in that time. You do realise humans only come to truly know things through experience right?

@MyNameIsRed111 3 жыл бұрын

Incredible lecture! Thank you professor Cline.

@brendanwood1540 3 жыл бұрын

Canan was actually Palestine, Syria, and Jordan. Not Israel, Syria and Jordan.

@rhienwelzel 3 жыл бұрын

@@brendanwood1540 in 1177 it was called Canaan, it wasn’t until the Roman completely destroyed Judah did hadarin name it Syria palaestina

@brendanwood1540 3 жыл бұрын

@@rhienwelzel It's not Israel. Never was and should not be today. Otherwise, It's my religious belief that god promised my people all the most fertile farmland in the heartland of Ontario. Let's start a bank and print currency. Then we can write books, and create a story to rationalize my people taking the farmland. To avoid certain military destruction we must destroy the surrounding provinces military forces preemptively before they are strong enough to take our land back. In the process we must procure all the fresh water sources and limit their food and medical supplies. We will take control of the media and high culture so that we can use it to stir up controversy in the surrounding surrogate nations. We can also ally with a global super power like India or China and create another intelligence agency there modeled after our very own original intelligence agency. Using, media, banking, high culture, and intelligence we will control our surrogate nations and expand our once promised land using fear and influence. Do we have any contacts from the Maxwell family still alive? We may need their services.

3 жыл бұрын

@@brendanwood1540 Your insane derp is nonsense.

@brendanwood1540 3 жыл бұрын

@ It's a parody of revisionist Zionism. It's also spelled "You're"; as in "you are" abbreviated. Here's the rub though; the reason I keep doing it expecting the same outcome is because that's the outcome I'm aiming to achieve.

@thatblindguy81 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to take a class by this guy. Very engaging and entertaining.

@marysagar 3 ай бұрын

The Passover, the Exodus and everything bound up in the Old Testament tradition suddenly take on a significance I had never seen before. This is going to be a long time in the percolating. Unforgettable and important.

@TheDing1701 4 жыл бұрын

Man, this was a tough room. This guy is pretty damn funny sometimes!

@augustwavra196 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I loved the content and some of the jokes were spot on. "I hope they had insurance" got no laughs :(

@sr2291 3 жыл бұрын

A good lecturer will know that adding humor helps keep the audience both alert and awake. Otherwise everyone would just fall asleep.

@sharonjanethague7181 3 жыл бұрын

He is funny. Nice person, too.

@msmirandagirl 3 жыл бұрын

Probably the audience had a lot of stressed out grad students worrying about how they'll pay off their student loans with a PhD in ancient history.

@billyjoejimbob75 3 жыл бұрын

I thought the one about marrying for love was pretty funny.

@talisikid1618 3 жыл бұрын

Joseph Tainter’s “Collapse of Complex Societies” is one of my all time favorites. Had it as a text in college. Bought several copies through the years.

@alexcarter8807 3 жыл бұрын

I wanted a copy back in 2010 when it was very hard to get. Maybe I should get one now.

@marindancirco6498 3 жыл бұрын

@richardrobertson1331 3 жыл бұрын

The Egyptians protected their newly learned science of turning iron into steel sometime between 700 to 660 BC, teaching this to only a select few tradesmen. They probably learned how to pound in graphite powder into strips of white hot iron from the Chinese, using charcoal for heat, billows to get the fire hot enough to melt a mixture of iron ore and meteorite chips in clay pots which would withstand the high temperatures, then poured this molten iron into short strips in clay molds for further forging, hammering and folding to blend in the graphite powder. They understood the necessity of working in enough graphite to make the steel tolerate repeated bending, otherwise it would fracture like a dropped cast iron skillet today. They forged short strips of steel and fastened them with sheep gut to the outer ends of the bows for the chariot archers, thus making their bows one third the length of the traditional long bows, so they could be managed in a chariot. Steel, although difficult to produce, could be repeatedly bent without fracturing (as iron would) and for other purposes it could be sharpened as sharp as glass (which was readily available but too brittle for most uses). A sharp edge on a metal blade was also a new concept for them. Copper and bronze don't hold a sharp edge well.

@virgilius7036 3 жыл бұрын

It was not the Egyptians who discovered the smelting of iron, but the Hittites in the western world and Indians in eastern!

@richardrobertson1331 3 жыл бұрын

@@virgilius7036 thanks. I find the development of smelting and related alchemy discoveries quite interesting. I had read someone's research years ago about iron to steel and thought he concluded the Egyptians got it from the Chinese. It's time for me to look into such things a little deeper, so thank you for the update on India and the Hittites. Promises to be an interesting few days of research now that I'm retired. My background is chemistry. And thanks, again, for the update.

@billyelliot4141 3 жыл бұрын

@@virgilius7036they had iron from meteors and were familiar with it. Tuts dagger.

@kevinel1398 3 жыл бұрын

@@richardrobertson1331 love how you took this new info in stride- and gratefully- instead of being the typical KZbin person and acting like an asshole. Good on you, mate.

@einsteinwallah2 2 жыл бұрын

@@billyelliot4141 in indian ayurvedic system of medicine many ashes were used ... barley grain was a weight measure and its ash is an ayurvedic medicine material ... a salt of iron which looked yellow in called suvarnmaakshik (suvarn=gold) which they used to treat iron deficiency anemia ... there is a raupymaakshik too because color is white (rupa=silver) ... indians would have been curious about meteors and iron rust and may have dabbled in primitive metallurgy which used two maakshiks mentioned and meteor and rust ... when things are really extremely ancient it is difficult to figure out who were first inventors and who transmitted and who received knowledge ... at least in initial stages when only small amounts could be smelted they may have been free to transmit knowledge but when technology matured and weapon use was figured out people would have started holding back new knowledge

@beckyd712 Жыл бұрын

What a fascinating lecture by Dr. Cline. Lots to think about and consider. Thank you!

@CaptainLightning1 3 жыл бұрын

Perhaps the Trojan War in mythology was actually a war against the Trojans who were a sea people. Maybe they even raided Sparta carrying off women, perhaps including the king's wife, and this was a reprisal or a gathering of the Greeks to go after them once and for all and try to make the raids or incursions stop. A lot of mythology often has a non-magical basis in reality.

@knoll9812 Жыл бұрын

2 big powers gotta fight Immediate excuse irrelevant WW1 would have been kicked off for any useful excuse. The sides were ready to fight

@michaelcap9550 Жыл бұрын

Sea Lives Matter.

@leonardwei3914 Жыл бұрын

43:20 Thanks for clarifying that story regarding the clay tablets not supposedly sent out in time and were found still in the kiln when the city fell. I've seen it (unknowingly or lazily) repeated elsewhere when they talk about the bronze age collapse.

@JJONNYREPP Жыл бұрын

1177 B.C.: When Civilization Collapsed | Eric Cline 1127am 17.5.23 some guy delivering milk and showing his ass to you would be the bare bones of your theory or factually based presentation...?

@mollcustominstruments9712 3 жыл бұрын

Just a brief word, leaving the lecture to others' comments, Your lead-in film was Spectacular! The Earth began to look like a singular, albeit huge, organism - VERY cool treatment!

@1CT1 3 жыл бұрын

@Gandalf22476 3 жыл бұрын

Check out Koyannisqatsi. Great film with a fantastic soundtrack by Philip Glass. No dialogue, just music and footage.

@mollcustominstruments9712 3 жыл бұрын

@@Gandalf22476 Well, that's interesting... Footage of what? I'd ask about the storyline but... 🤔

@Gandalf22476 3 жыл бұрын

@@mollcustominstruments9712 footage very similar to the short. The end is a birds eye view of a city zooming out and slowly fading into circuitry on a computer. But the buildup to that scene is great. There is a scene in particular that is similar to this short called Koyaanisqatsi The Grid on youtube if you want to check.

@igotyoubeat 3 жыл бұрын

This man is an effective educator; he does a really good job of captivating your attention

@petragiri2308 Жыл бұрын

Fascinating to hear Professor Cline talk. When I visit places I also often think I wonder how this placed looked X-thousand years ago and what will come her in the future? Thank you for sharing this on KZbin.

@adelinad3513 Жыл бұрын

Most of the times those places were more advanced before the cataclysms

@lastdays2012 10 ай бұрын

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@geoyoshinaka5251 3 жыл бұрын

what an amazing lesson for us all, thank you for your insight and sharing!

@DarkFire515 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely fascinating lecture by Dr. Cline. I'd love to read his proposed 'what if' alternate history book.

@suedenim6590 3 жыл бұрын

Such absolute horse sh1t, there is ZERO point engaging with so called "historians" the megalithic predeluvian evidence that they're making their entire field up is literally littered all over the earth. This is pure absolute nonsense. You want a good story I suggest Harry Potter. You should be deeply ashamed of yourselves pushing this tosh. I pity you

@suedenim6590 3 жыл бұрын

Google Gobeki Tepi. According to this sweaty lying chode, hunter gatherers knocked it up one lunch hour 9500 years ago fortuitously exactly in line celestially. PLEASE DONT FALL FOR THE UTTER BS THE MAINSTREAM TELLS YOU. Your eyes and brain can easily tell you it's lies unless you're too dumbed down and far gone already (that's why they call the TV programming). These charlatans should be ashamed of themselves. I bet your mother is proud you've spent your entire life lying and misleading your entire species well done you 👏 👏 👏

@shayne2168 3 жыл бұрын

@@suedenim6590 chill the fuck out

3 жыл бұрын

@@suedenim6590 You are a gullible simpleton.

@jaimeosbourn3616 3 жыл бұрын

@@suedenim6590 Citation needed

@andreasschmitt7307 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for uploading Dr. Cline

@bananacyclist Жыл бұрын

Wonderful and fascinating. Plus added bonus, Dr Cline speaks beautifully with a really clear and pleasant voice. Thank you so much for this video. Best wishes

@lynsmith3154 3 жыл бұрын

I'm wondering if deforestation in the Mediterranean over hundreds of years (or more) prior to the collapse played a big part in the change of local climate; lots of trees had been cut down after bronze axes were developed. That likely would have affected rainfall in that area, plus the domestication of sheep and goats that maintain no regeneration of forests. Early on the areas were covered with forests and shipbuilding was a major enterprise. The cedars of Lebanon, Greece and Cyprus were legendary in early bronze age, but have never re-grown. A lot of the area is remains barren.

@tsriftsal3581 3 жыл бұрын

Are you aware of the fault lines where all these "cities" were built?

@lynsmith3154 3 жыл бұрын

@@tsriftsal3581 Yes, he talked about that; its an important factor, but if rainfall substantially reduced across the Mediterranean it would cause mass migration of starving hordes and result in chaos.

@jerryg3524 4 жыл бұрын

brilliant, thanks for this video and to everyone involved, esp. Dr. Eric Cline

@TheLordUrban 4 жыл бұрын

I always thought of the Sea Peoples in the same vein as the Raiders from Mad Max. They didn’t cause the collapse, but they were as symptom of it and served to exasperate it.

@slappy8941 4 жыл бұрын

I think you mean exacerbate instead of exasperate, although I'm sure they made life more exasperating.

@coolichka42 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah always thought of them as ancient “barbarians” that were created after the Trojan war. In the Iliad he constantly calls them “sacker of cities”

@GrandDukeMushroom 4 жыл бұрын

I see see peoples

@PhillipMelanchthon 4 жыл бұрын

@Liza Tanzawa The Late Bronze Age collapse was, frankly, fed up with the annoying Sea Peoples and their fixation on raiding. All they did was exacerbate an already troublesome era.

@behindtheeyes07 4 жыл бұрын

I always assumed they were vikings, or were inspired by one.. Probably way off lol

@bryandraughn9830 Жыл бұрын

Such an excellent example of how historical knowledge is updated, overturned, and sometimes misrepresented by various publications. Fantastic attention to detail and the open admission to blind spots. Most of the popular videos concerning these subjects are full of sensationalized hype and flat out fiction. It's disappointing that the general public isn't interested in actual research carried out by professionals. Keep up the good work!

@thelazy0ne 3 жыл бұрын

Given I've only heard about Bronze Age Collapse here and there and had no idea it happened before that and until now it was this mysterious event, I'm glad this exist. It was quite explanatory. Thank you modern age global knowledge network 😌

@donnysandley6977 4 жыл бұрын

Watching this now during covid-19 I can totally understand how collapses happen 😞

@oscarkelly2798 4 жыл бұрын

READING THIS AND LISTENING TO THIS LET'S YOU KNOW THAT THE EARTH IS CHAOTIC AND SUBJECTIVE TO MANY BREAKDOWNS...WE WILL GO DOWN WITH THE COLLAPSE OF THE DISINNTEGRATION....

@oscarkelly2798 4 жыл бұрын

READING THIS AND LISTENING TO THIS LET'S YOU KNOW THAT THE EARTH IS CHAOTIC AND SUBJECTIVE TO MANY BREAKDOWNS...WE WILL GO DOWN WITH THE COLLAPSE OF THE DISINNTEGRATION....

@oscarkelly2798 4 жыл бұрын

REALLY.....

@donnysandley6977 3 жыл бұрын

@Hunter Smith it is right now

@rikerdavis2843 3 жыл бұрын

@Hunter Smith This comment has aged well

@MrLJT1 2 жыл бұрын

I highly recommend his book 1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed

@Paxxcomm 4 ай бұрын

What an educational gift. Thank you for enlightening a random Tuesday morning!

@Highlander.7 3 жыл бұрын

wildly intelligent and perceptive. thanks for the dose of intelligence. much needed in today's remedial classroom of a world

@sivabalanretnasamy650 3 жыл бұрын

I can understand leaving out the civilisations of the Americas due to geographic isolation. How could the Indus and Chinese be left out of any global bronze age civilisation? Trade was certainly occuring

@Wendyzee1612 3 жыл бұрын

And we need to talk about Africa....

@EleneDOM 3 жыл бұрын

@@Wendyzee1612 Yes to all three of those very large areas!

@mjxw 3 жыл бұрын

When you say "trade was certainly occurring", is there evidence of that? Is there archeological evidence of trade between Egypt in 1200 BC and, for example, the Chinese?

@Humbulla93 3 жыл бұрын

@@mjxw there are some chinese hieroglyphs found in usa, arizona so if they had the technology to travel to america egyptians would have too. and i´ve read somewhere that there is paleogenetic evidence that proves, that the chinese people were in america

@karlpatterson8437 2 жыл бұрын

Great talk. This man is superbly well informed and articulate. It was a pleasure to watch.

@TheRealThomasPaine1776 Жыл бұрын

I heard that any decent professor uses their students and grad students as extensions, as researchers. Which is pretty normal, so if a teacher is looking for info, just assign it to 100 students and have a grad student collate it all while you work on your book. After 20-30 years, with 1000's of students and hundreds of passionate, focused grad students constantly researching your area of study, while you flip through the papers and grade them, saving what you want for your book! It must be a tremendous time saver. It's no wonder why these guys in academia can find the answers and have time to write! I used to think it must be hard to find time to write a book when you have a full-time job like that and yet, every Professor has hundreds if not thousands of co-writers, none of whom get paid a cent! Not only that, given archaeology, it's extremely difficult, and usually takes decades for anybody to prove you wrong! By than, 30 years went by, books were written, the university gave out a fat severance, and than, years later.......... "Oh crap, I guess I was wrong" I used to think guys like this we all geniuses and just way beyond regular people.

@BillSias-op7xw 3 жыл бұрын

A very enlightening lecture, thank you, it is food for thought.

@JJONNYREPP Жыл бұрын

1177 B.C.: When Civilization Collapsed | Eric Cline 1155am 17.5.23 so 1900's onwards... up until present day and probably beyond.... will be seen as our contemporary dark age? i am begging to differ. as it seems these events - total repetition where an historical narrative is concerned - are worked into our economic and every day existences. these events after all prop up capital(ism) - break down to build up/destroy to invest etc etc etc... pretty easy template to get a grip on. "it is the job of others" to desist from this incessant bs, then...? as for it being naive idealism to question the nature of the rise and fall of civilisations - i don't see why it should be deemed idealism (nor why such pooh poohing of this pessimism is frowned upon) nor why it is deemed so outre to want out of these dire prognostications...... due to the fact that it is this incessant b.s which prompts us to look elsewhere to get us out of a tiresome and moribund fix, i would say it is healthy to demand different answers.... nowhere in my responses have i demanded communism be implemented as the antidote to the ills of this farce - these dark ages we are being confronted with. who in their right mind, after concluding that the farce we constantly strive to overcome is being propped up by martial spirited prowess of our alleged betters, would then demand a fighting force to implement an idealism fit for nought but being spat upon - if conventional wisdom is to be deemed the backbone of the status quo?............................. confronting a discourse which is nought but a dead-end does not mean you have the right to drown others who hove into view (hypothetically speaking)...