12 BEST MAGES to Abuse BOT LANE right now in Season 9

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@PheonixFC
@PheonixFC 5 жыл бұрын
Hashinshin is probably foaming at the mouth seeing this
@5headplayerr865
@5headplayerr865 5 жыл бұрын
Akshat nyeehh twitch chat, I told you mages are overpowered
@Hadhoudtn
@Hadhoudtn 5 жыл бұрын
@@5headplayerr865 He is actually right ! Seeing Ap champions in top tiers in every damn role is enough proof that AP items are kinda overpowered ! The fact that Riot gave the power to ap champion to deal good damage to turrets just didn't help and just made marksmen look irrelevant !
@mylesmiller5979
@mylesmiller5979 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hadhoudtn lol no
@Ruined_Poro
@Ruined_Poro 5 жыл бұрын
Vladimir is also great, especialy with Yuumi!
@joe-bw6wy
@joe-bw6wy 5 жыл бұрын
A few hours I saw ParnstarZilean playing Veigar, since Draven got banned. I didn't know why he played Veigar and this video is the answer.
@austintuckett2356
@austintuckett2356 5 жыл бұрын
I had to stop at "slaming balls in my face" cus i almost died.
@callmetwisted5742
@callmetwisted5742 4 жыл бұрын
XD I audably said "you 2 need to get a damn room then." Then the guy next to me on the bus gave me a dirty look
@vmdp8790
@vmdp8790 4 жыл бұрын
mm nice
@fordawin1417
@fordawin1417 5 жыл бұрын
I could taste the salt at 2:48 “skill button” we all know it
@ThePhylol
@ThePhylol 5 жыл бұрын
These mini guides should give you everything you need to start but good luck !
@ArtemicOne
@ArtemicOne 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot Taliyah, very strong bot with cc supp but you don't even need one.
@rossobrink8097
@rossobrink8097 5 жыл бұрын
Why teeto isn't part of the list? :c
@mauer1
@mauer1 5 жыл бұрын
@@rossobrink8097 its obvious the devil himself can be played anywhere.
@randommordekaisermain1214
@randommordekaisermain1214 5 жыл бұрын
Best in Mid best in Top best in Bot DEFINETLY NOT OP
@cccbbbaaa110
@cccbbbaaa110 5 жыл бұрын
Better buff them again
@milosdjokic8065
@milosdjokic8065 5 жыл бұрын
Good thing you main Mordekaiser so you have a saying in whos op in who is not
@randommordekaisermain1214
@randommordekaisermain1214 5 жыл бұрын
@@milosdjokic8065 if you still think morde is op i you are either low elo or really boosted
@liersiron5444
@liersiron5444 5 жыл бұрын
Mages arent the best in bot tho
@noahstandish7650
@noahstandish7650 4 жыл бұрын
@@liersiron5444 Oh yeah they are, they are super annoying at 1700 elo.
@reedysk8rboy
@reedysk8rboy 5 жыл бұрын
Been having a bit of lane crisis on where I want to play. Love mages but can’t play mid (friend refuses to learn another). This video is great! Going to slowly go through these
@ggkooldude
@ggkooldude 5 жыл бұрын
YOU forgot LUX bot lane lux actually can CS good in bot and she can harass the bot lane so much and get a lot of kills mid to late game especially paired with supports that can work with her amazingly
@justhair17
@justhair17 5 жыл бұрын
She mid to late game? She isnt really good lategame. Her main strength is catch potential and its poking, which isnt that valuable in lategame, because ppl group way more. Also she is really easy to kill
@ggkooldude
@ggkooldude 5 жыл бұрын
@@justhair17 that is true but if you know what you doing and she catch you out chasing her she can explode you completely that's like saying syndra easy to kill around those points which are true but it's about if you know what you doing
@SpudicusRex
@SpudicusRex 5 жыл бұрын
Vel'Koz. You forgot carry Vel'koz botlane. It's nutty.
@JunJun..
@JunJun.. 4 жыл бұрын
Ayyy preach fellow squid :D
@SpudicusRex
@SpudicusRex 4 жыл бұрын
@@JunJun.. My duo buddy tends to be the squid, but I'm supportive.
@TheUndeadShark
@TheUndeadShark 5 жыл бұрын
As a silver, whenever i try to pick a mage in botlane, entire team goes nuts, flame and trollpick Playing a mage bot with an a full tank jinx top, a ryze jgl, a Darius as mid and a j4 support like in my last game isnt funny. At all.
@Gurehige
@Gurehige 5 жыл бұрын
TheUndeadShark once I picked Karthus and I was first pick, then my support picked Jhin and the midlaner picked a support and they wanted to force me to go mid but thankfully someone dodged, but other than that people usually just question me about it then dont say/do much else. I am hoping with the bot picks in Worlds people will become more accepting.
@aluksus9327
@aluksus9327 5 жыл бұрын
It souds like fun tho, atleast none complains about trollpicks
@codeman3788
@codeman3788 4 жыл бұрын
those people deserve the itchiest nuts with no arms to scratch.
@Wellshem
@Wellshem 4 жыл бұрын
I don't like ppl playing mage over adc if we don't have another carry in the team like master yi, yasuo, tryndamere or twitch jungle. Doing baron and objective become horrible without one of these.
@dakshmehta9343
@dakshmehta9343 4 жыл бұрын
played lux botlane, we did really well but my support didn't buy a support item early cuz he thought I was trolling and farmed also as lulu. In bronze III. lux botlane was pretty opressive against heimer kaisa.
@ggkooldude
@ggkooldude 5 жыл бұрын
Like straight up lux in the adc role has been very underrated
@neddleduck
@neddleduck 5 жыл бұрын
no it hasnt
@teemoisgay5061
@teemoisgay5061 5 жыл бұрын
Once again hashinshin was right 3 months before it happened
@viper61alin
@viper61alin 5 жыл бұрын
This is why hashinshin cries about league MAGES this video would make him rant lmao
@antonbelyaev8295
@antonbelyaev8295 5 жыл бұрын
He cries about everything tbh
@georgikarakachanov590
@georgikarakachanov590 5 жыл бұрын
@@antonbelyaev8295 Thing is, he's actually right about most stuff.
@aluksus9327
@aluksus9327 5 жыл бұрын
@@georgikarakachanov590 not really tho, id say 50/50 ad like some ad items are just beter like he always complain about arcangels but muramana stacks x3 times faster, also brusers arent weaker than mages at all, mr items still suck though
@georgikarakachanov590
@georgikarakachanov590 5 жыл бұрын
@@aluksus9327 Yeah, but for the most part he is usually right, for example all the Fiora buffs are not needed, if you can't play her without the buffs, well, git gud.
@Icex7
@Icex7 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgikarakachanov590 Fiora was a little underwhelming, but okay.
@rush4g
@rush4g 5 жыл бұрын
Who is surprised that mages are dominating bot lane? People are just now realizing how broken mages and ap in general is? hashin is actually right when he said ap and mages are bullshit. They have quite literally everything and zero downsides.
@emircantopdemir740
@emircantopdemir740 5 жыл бұрын
I tried Viktor in the bot it felt pretty ok actually.
@Mendamar-uv4jg
@Mendamar-uv4jg 5 жыл бұрын
It is.Viktor scales well just like Cass.
@aluksus9327
@aluksus9327 5 жыл бұрын
Espesialy with his new w evolve
@JOzza1302
@JOzza1302 5 жыл бұрын
Genuinely surprised at no vlad mention. We've all seen what vlad yuumi can do.
@jorsmanel8732
@jorsmanel8732 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the reasons why mage items needs to be nerfed..
@MastaPhil666
@MastaPhil666 5 жыл бұрын
The issue isn't items. It's the mid lane meta being full of assassins (Zed Talon LeBlanc Qiyana Ekko), fighters (Irelia Yasuo Renekton Pantheon Aatrox) and roaming mages (TF Taliyah Ryze Aurelion Sol). See of these bot lane mages are actually considered trolling if you blind pick them mid lane. And another controversial topic: Marksman mids. Tristana, Corki, Lucian and Quinn have really good matchups in mid atm.
@shacolin6546
@shacolin6546 5 жыл бұрын
Why? Jungle have tanks, fighters and assassins, top lane has tanks, fighters and a few picks from basically every class, mid has mages and assassins, support has tanks and mages. Why can't the bot lane carry role be marksmen and something else? Why does it HAS to be marksmen only?
@xdelisiusx
@xdelisiusx 5 жыл бұрын
No.. Glacial Augment needs to be nerfed.
@Rpedro45
@Rpedro45 5 жыл бұрын
nah magic resist items need to be buffed, literaly the best magic resist item is BANSHEE VEILS! A MAGE ITEM!
@shacolin6546
@shacolin6546 5 жыл бұрын
Glacial Augment is fine. It is the optimal rune in a few mages as it is comet and aery on others. If we're talking about keystones in need of a nerf, electrecute is used in almost all assassins, a few mages, and even a few fighters. Its a far more dominant rune. Another examples: conqueror and aftershock. The former is really dominant on most fighters, the later is mandatory on most tanks and a few mages. Only a handful mages use this keystone. Also, I'm pretty sure Hexdrinker is the best magic resistence item in the game. Finally, people need to get off their head that marksmen should monopolize bot lane. Classes get in and out of the meta all the time, its totally normal. However, when marksmen do everywhere I go a flood of tears. They not only are still viable, but are also the most picked champions there. The only difference is that they have competition now. Bot lane is fine, nothing needs to be nerfed there.
@coney_island_queen
@coney_island_queen 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly i was expecting lux to be in this list.
@isaacasdreams
@isaacasdreams 5 жыл бұрын
I play Lux bot lane... Ekko and Nashers tooth = Lux APC
@thenoseplays2488
@thenoseplays2488 5 жыл бұрын
What about Ziggs with his insane tower sieging pressure?
@roguis3451
@roguis3451 5 жыл бұрын
People pick mages en botlane to have a better early-mid game preasure and more utility, and of course ap dmg to counter those full ad teams, but ziggs has none of that his laning phase is bad, he has no reliable cc and if you think about it he is a worse version of Ezreal, there is no reason to pick him over conventional ads and syndra/heimer/neeko
@TsyChun
@TsyChun 5 жыл бұрын
yeah lmao in very late game he kills any turret in less than 2 secs
@misterjelly2830
@misterjelly2830 5 жыл бұрын
I think ziggs is just to bad at the moment, he isnt even viable mid.
@themarauder6993
@themarauder6993 5 жыл бұрын
Ziggs counters heimer pretty hard so there's that.
@Onic14
@Onic14 5 жыл бұрын
Whold Ryze work? Its the same idea as Kassio. Plus, I immagine hes gonna be rally good in teamfight later on.
@behrtwald
@behrtwald 5 жыл бұрын
Gave it a several sessions of an attempt before and after mages got popular in bot lane. His early pressure is very weak if your support isn't able to set up "trades"; I mean, nowhere near the pressure level of Ezreal as a similar scaling champion.
@icokostov6527
@icokostov6527 5 жыл бұрын
With a lot of hook supports being so popular, Malz APC is a good idea. Now pls HEAR ME OUT: why should the support try to get hooked so that the ADC stays alive when u can have the ADC/APC be able to not get cced on their own. Also his dmg is insane and he has cc on his own (especially after 6). And let's not forget that his W can be used to block hooks.
@DanteCrowlley
@DanteCrowlley 5 жыл бұрын
*Are we back at 8.11 Gulags again? The rise of mage bots disgust me, the way Rito Gomes hates my ADCs also disgust me*
@deuntre4
@deuntre4 5 жыл бұрын
It not that bruiser not bot
@nechocat1234
@nechocat1234 5 жыл бұрын
It's notthat they are better than adcs is that they are ery viable at that role and depending on your team it could be better than an adc
@Mendamar-uv4jg
@Mendamar-uv4jg 5 жыл бұрын
Electro Ahri is good too. Laning phase good. Synergises well with supports.Lvl 6 power spike is huge.
@alanaastter1197
@alanaastter1197 5 жыл бұрын
i've been playing Karma bot for like 2 years now , with kleptomancy seraph into magic pen, and i out damage every single person in the game , you can definetly try viktor bot, and ziggs is still one of my favourites , i just poke them out of the lane and im playing it with Tp and low cd on ult - presence of mind+ ultimate hunter . then there is that vlad bot that can get nuts with a good supp
@snekkers5600
@snekkers5600 5 жыл бұрын
No Vlad, Karthus, or Xerath? Those 3 I see the most aside from Syndra and Veigar
@s4tisfaction_
@s4tisfaction_ 5 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you didn't list Vel'Koz. I play him bot as a carry all the time and Vel even got played bot as a carry during pla- ins last year at worlds
@mauer1
@mauer1 5 жыл бұрын
well, last year was last year lul.
@JunJun..
@JunJun.. 4 жыл бұрын
@@mauer1 the champion hasn't been buffed/nerfed at all for a year and he does pretty well in most matchups if u know what ur doing
@mauer1
@mauer1 4 жыл бұрын
@@JunJun.. but not in all team comps.
@JunJun..
@JunJun.. 4 жыл бұрын
@@mauer1 mmm I guess but it isn't the end of the world if you try and force it
@Anakeish
@Anakeish 5 жыл бұрын
Gold/Plat - Brand, I got around 80% W/R. But I'm using Xerath as supp and it's pretty much same - around 75% W/R. Zero risks, super range, stun, slow, and 2 item power spike can literally one shot any kind of ADC.
@tristangarcia632
@tristangarcia632 5 жыл бұрын
My inner hashinshin is telling me no.....but my heart is telling me to abuse magez cuz its the meta
@yuukifenia1611
@yuukifenia1611 5 жыл бұрын
Viktor has been really good bot, I had decent success with Akali and Kayle but they're more skill match up's, Anivia can just constant wave clear and threaten with QE, and Ahri bot whether burst or Glacial as well.
@themanidentifiedasdinosaur8138
@themanidentifiedasdinosaur8138 5 жыл бұрын
Tip for bot lane veigar: You need a tank support. Most effective support for you is a Sion. Sion deals a lot of damage as a support which veigar really lacks early. Any tanks though since you need a frontline/bait so enemy can't focus you. He's my to go pick when I'm autofilled bot. Better play something you know than try something on ranked.
@aluksus9327
@aluksus9327 5 жыл бұрын
Worst part is toxic teammates tho, sometimes they flame me even if Im 5 0 lol
@anonamust221
@anonamust221 5 жыл бұрын
Whenever ppl list mages for bot, nobody ever says vel’koz but I’ve 1 shot my fair share of adcs with his ult off of a single cc spell from my support. Also don’t sleep on the viktor buffs!
@AuraAmile
@AuraAmile 5 жыл бұрын
Tbh I was expecting Viktor on here, I know he aint the strongest but together with a morgana thats one disgusting lane to play into, with the perma cc and lategame dmg from viktor.
@Kimbleri
@Kimbleri 5 жыл бұрын
Oh boy i've abused veigar bot as a flex pick for 2 seasons now. Can't wait to get it picked or banned now :-)
@Kassandru
@Kassandru 5 жыл бұрын
What about Xerath, Malzahar, Vladimir, Lux or Ivern?
@aluksus9327
@aluksus9327 5 жыл бұрын
Xerath is just isnt that good at this moment, malsahar have unreliable dmg(idk maybe with sup its ok) ivern does no dmg even full ap
@leedanbar4686
@leedanbar4686 5 жыл бұрын
Is everyone forgetting Vel'koz?
@neat3655
@neat3655 4 жыл бұрын
Vlad has terrible waveclear so he will pretty much sit under tower all game, not to mention if you play vlad bot you will be behind levels = low abilities damage and will need 4 items to actually be viable, meta now game end early so playing him is not a good idea. Lux also has terrible waveclear and weak damage early, Heimerdinger and syndra are better Xerath i can see he play bot, but I would prefer ziggs, xerath R is trash Ivern, just search tyler1 ivern and you’ll see if it works or not Malz works, I’ve been playing him quite a bit, I think his best rune is unsealed spellbook since he don’t have reliable poke ability
@HoldMyBeerPlease
@HoldMyBeerPlease 5 жыл бұрын
finally .... finally it seems to be a know issue that adcs r damn bad. since the crit rework they r trash and just got tiny bit better over time but still useless
@stefkobl
@stefkobl 5 жыл бұрын
Ehmmm what drugs are you using? Adc role isnt bad, mages are problem. Cheap items, burst dmg, early powerspikes, Zhonyas... Try to play toplane, you can go 10-0 in lane and lose game cause you cant do shit to range champions without flash. You just pray for not feeding botlane and semi-decent jungler before game. So your statement is incorrect.
@nicholascouture4073
@nicholascouture4073 5 жыл бұрын
What about ahri? I find her to be good bot as well
@Hyurno
@Hyurno 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine if bot turret had something like 20% damage reduction vs magic till 14 minutes Mid 20% less damage from ad Top 20% less damage from ranged Easy fixes
@AuroraLight_x
@AuroraLight_x 5 жыл бұрын
Why mid from ranged? Than you would flat out nerf mages. Mid should be safed from ad ranged pushes not all ranged pushes
@nikolamilosavljevic9280
@nikolamilosavljevic9280 5 жыл бұрын
Viktor Azir Can work too and from bruisers irelia can do well with agroo supports
@CloteBloody4305
@CloteBloody4305 5 жыл бұрын
maybe nurf mage early game power again?
@codeman3788
@codeman3788 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes, 1000x yes, fk the meta.
@benjeaboy
@benjeaboy 5 жыл бұрын
And yet, nerf xayah...
@TsyChun
@TsyChun 5 жыл бұрын
yeah clearly it's not the the others adc that were bad she was op /s
@aluksus9327
@aluksus9327 5 жыл бұрын
@@TsyChun kaisa definetly cant do everything like ap/ad dmg % dmg, stealth, speed boost, atk speed boost, shield, dash, onhit dmg, insane range, also she could build zhonyas easily
@emanuelecorbellini5110
@emanuelecorbellini5110 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, what would you think of a Neeko build that goes ROA into Nashor's into Litch bane? It's more ap that the glacial one, and you also get to abuse your autos. I would onestly only use this if the enemy has a frontline that I won't be able to get through with spells alone.
@aluksus9327
@aluksus9327 5 жыл бұрын
Roa isnt good on early game champ imo, I dont know why none builds nashors tho, I guess because of nerf of guinsoo
@hakikigulyabani
@hakikigulyabani 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot Velkoz and Ziggs.
@kirnl
@kirnl 5 жыл бұрын
Mages are stupid op. High ap high pen high survability with best defensive item in the game zyonias which also gives high ap + all MR items in the game are absolutely terrible. Riot needs to pull their heads out of there arses.
@fringgs6865
@fringgs6865 5 жыл бұрын
lol the glacial build that i've been using is now getting popular huh.. hopefully it wont nerf
@michaelrhodes163
@michaelrhodes163 5 жыл бұрын
Mages top, mages mid, mages bot, mages jungle
@hatakekakashi3228
@hatakekakashi3228 5 жыл бұрын
Mages support, Mages nexus
@Skyharyu
@Skyharyu 5 жыл бұрын
Been doing heim bot since the patch and who knew its meta in bot right now
@SirLacombes
@SirLacombes 5 жыл бұрын
And people said I was trolling with Ekko bot, I've been playing it way before this video...
@mauer1
@mauer1 5 жыл бұрын
well you were trolling. Riot made several changes so that could happen even against guys who can play.
@NoName-dj4ok
@NoName-dj4ok 5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't Viktor also be good? He's got long range poke, a shield, slows with w upgrade and good dmg over the course of the game. A supp helps him over his weak early and makes it easier to pick up a few kills.
@AbyssArray
@AbyssArray 5 жыл бұрын
I think the video is aiming more for the 'laning/early fights phase', Viktor doesn't quite come online too early into the game where they may transition into fighting early objectives
@galacticpotata8192
@galacticpotata8192 5 жыл бұрын
Azir botlane and kayle ap bot is underrated
@smorelax8608
@smorelax8608 5 жыл бұрын
As if mage supports weren't annoying enough, every other mage item gives Magic Penetration.
@toanluuuc7655
@toanluuuc7655 5 жыл бұрын
New Viktor is insane in the bot lane. Try him out guys, free elo
@TimexG
@TimexG 5 жыл бұрын
Ivern Rengar or Ivern Leona xD Aftershock and Guardian. combo for the huge shields and speed buffs.
@sirskorge
@sirskorge 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I dont main botlane. It pisses me off even as a midlaner.. And to top it off if I counterpick syndra or heimer mid, then boom renekton mid, or Camille or some shit.
@bantay21
@bantay21 5 жыл бұрын
Now I have cheese picks to play for my League tournament
@NegaDre
@NegaDre 5 жыл бұрын
No Tailyah? Pfft. Ok! Phy is clearly trolling. lmao I'm kidding btw
@AbyssArray
@AbyssArray 5 жыл бұрын
I think people are scarred from Taliyah/Pantheon by a certain LCK team vs SKT in the spring split
@dubwild7012
@dubwild7012 5 жыл бұрын
Must be a hella work to make such a video, I do not play anymore cause you know.. Life right :) but i stay updtaed anyway :) and i still apreciate the work behind your video, keep it up man
@quicksilver5784
@quicksilver5784 5 жыл бұрын
Bot lane zoe is so good
@Arthrexx
@Arthrexx 5 жыл бұрын
Swain, Swain, Swain, Swain, Swain, Swain and Swain
@aluksus9327
@aluksus9327 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot Swain
@jasperosterlund6308
@jasperosterlund6308 5 жыл бұрын
JUST LET ME PLAY NORMAL MARKSMAN FFS
@Ligam3731
@Ligam3731 5 жыл бұрын
Zilean is pretty good too! Pair it with another mage and you'll make their adc useless
@Nemzee13
@Nemzee13 5 жыл бұрын
Fast rap breakdowns
@jaredmontgomery305
@jaredmontgomery305 5 жыл бұрын
Phy! Why you telling everyone the secret to free LP?! We currently run Swain APC & Brand Support and it's actually disgusting. Great content, keep it up!
@aluksus9327
@aluksus9327 5 жыл бұрын
I run swain with sup item and melee supp with anower sup item, honestly gold gain is disgusting
@ALEXANDERATTACK
@ALEXANDERATTACK 5 жыл бұрын
So he can get views...
@isaacasdreams
@isaacasdreams 5 жыл бұрын
@@aluksus9327 Sooo... you both dont cs?
@aluksus9327
@aluksus9327 5 жыл бұрын
@@isaacasdreamstargons shield have no penalty for farming, and it also gives gold to swain,so melee champ farm until swains item is stacked, then swain farms instead (bcz no penalty after quest is finished)
@FluffyToss
@FluffyToss 5 жыл бұрын
Weren't you going to give out the points from IKON?
@alexandregehin8665
@alexandregehin8665 5 жыл бұрын
you didnt mention sums though, that would help
@remilia20xx78
@remilia20xx78 5 жыл бұрын
So basically Glacial Augment and Red tree
@phoenixflamegames1
@phoenixflamegames1 5 жыл бұрын
I hate this so much, just try to pick an adc without a dash nowadays, you’ll get shit on by any mage bot.
@Hadhoudtn
@Hadhoudtn 5 жыл бұрын
Mister Uzi dislikes this video !
@DarkDodgers
@DarkDodgers 5 жыл бұрын
Rip Ziggs not on list. Makes me sad as that's supposed to be his thing
@AbyssArray
@AbyssArray 5 жыл бұрын
He's fine, but I imagine people haven't been playing him
@JonnyBoi12
@JonnyBoi12 5 жыл бұрын
"WHAT ABOUT *UNLISTED MAGE* HES SO GOOD" You guys realize he cant list every single mage right? This video would be like 30 minutes long.
@DJ-pj9ld
@DJ-pj9ld 4 жыл бұрын
i honestly expected for Ziggs xp
@zoroark522
@zoroark522 5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the first background song used? 0:30-2:50
@vasilvladimirov9327
@vasilvladimirov9327 5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Yuumi
@antosqa7343
@antosqa7343 5 жыл бұрын
League of Mages,OmegaLuL.And still Rito don’t want to admit that mages is the strongest class in game rn.Why you have to pick tank/bruiser on top if you can take Kennen and lighting rush back,lightning rush forward.Or pick adk to be smacked by Heimerdonger on lane and be oneshoted later
@maxitout7946
@maxitout7946 5 жыл бұрын
at 2:55 i thought he said indian curry lmaoooooooooo
@stefanosntoutsis2479
@stefanosntoutsis2479 5 жыл бұрын
What about ziggs or viktor?
@TheUndeadShark
@TheUndeadShark 5 жыл бұрын
Way too weak in early
@stefanosntoutsis2479
@stefanosntoutsis2479 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheUndeadShark yeah but they are hyper carries
@Gurehige
@Gurehige 5 жыл бұрын
Is Karthus bot good? It used to be a thing
@nechocat1234
@nechocat1234 5 жыл бұрын
The thing is why play him bot when in jungle is op
@AbyssArray
@AbyssArray 5 жыл бұрын
After his last nerfs, people haven't been keen on playing him, notably trying to get a kill with that first ult is pretty hard with its low base damage
@kikofernandez9184
@kikofernandez9184 5 жыл бұрын
so basically mage plus that rune
@ahmedtrabelsi2700
@ahmedtrabelsi2700 5 жыл бұрын
TLDR : pick a mage bot lane , take glacial build or electrocute , abuse adc poor laning phase , win. because mages are "totally not the strongest in the game" and have ''alot of couner play" to the their kit :) , also they dont need nerfs because "they require alot of skill" :) , also "mages items are totally well tuned and fair" , and ALSO '' we have alot of magic resist items to counter mages" :) :) , BALANCE :) G G W P xd . season 9.
@nechocat1234
@nechocat1234 5 жыл бұрын
They are weak to death
@orfeascapoku
@orfeascapoku 5 жыл бұрын
These are not mages but ive seen them in my games and they snowballed out of control Try jax adc with panth supp Or leona adc with braum supp
@emaxartch3117
@emaxartch3117 5 жыл бұрын
How about kassadin XD he is good cause he is scaling champion
@alexnilk8767
@alexnilk8767 5 жыл бұрын
Come RIP ADC 2020
@shacolin6546
@shacolin6546 5 жыл бұрын
AP Kog?
@coolbobness12121
@coolbobness12121 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot velkoz... incredible poke, low cds, two forms of self peal and great lane sustain. You're a joke my guy
@Swagbastian
@Swagbastian 5 жыл бұрын
HHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMM I WONDER WHAT ITEMS I SHOULD BUILD
@spookykayn9142
@spookykayn9142 5 жыл бұрын
Taliyah
@KayoYuuki
@KayoYuuki 5 жыл бұрын
ziggs?
@kazzardiusthetomato7968
@kazzardiusthetomato7968 5 жыл бұрын
Well what about lux apc?
@Stroimex
@Stroimex 5 жыл бұрын
Still zoe supports*
@koffhi1801
@koffhi1801 5 жыл бұрын
wheres the mundo guide :c
@gwgoulinos
@gwgoulinos 5 жыл бұрын
Can you fucking not go there Phy? You main adc ,don't you? Do you really want a ap bot meta again?
@tuxxx526
@tuxxx526 5 жыл бұрын
i won my series with heimer bot 👍
@abdullahakkawi1866
@abdullahakkawi1866 5 жыл бұрын
Where s viktor
@KemiKaze
@KemiKaze 5 жыл бұрын
Riot buff adcs
@DarkinfinityXD
@DarkinfinityXD 5 жыл бұрын
First
@rush4g
@rush4g 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine a class of champions being so overpowered that they're just straight up replacing an entire class of other champions.. If that isn't enough of a sign to flat out nerf ap and mages then idk what is.
@AuroraLight_x
@AuroraLight_x 5 жыл бұрын
So what's up with those marksman top and Midlane who just flat out destroy those lanes? If mages are so overpowers why are marksman so freaking strong in those lanes and win almost any match up against any of this picks in a 1v1 early?
@rush4g
@rush4g 5 жыл бұрын
Quinn and vayne are the only ones I ever see top and they're there because they demolish any melee champ and they're slippery to catch. I never see adcs in mid so idk what you're talking about with that Even then, you can't compare those few circumstances to a class of champions that can go quite literally everywhere and demolish their lanes. Top they do very well, mid is their main lane, jungle.. support even adc now.
@AuroraLight_x
@AuroraLight_x 5 жыл бұрын
@@rush4g Lucian, Tristana, Ezreal?! So you're not high elo nor interested in proplay cause those picks are top and mid all over the place and just freaking wreck both lanes and almost all match ups. There are no Midlane mages on top or on jungle expect maybe Sylas or Vlad but both are getting shit on Midlane.
@misterjelly2830
@misterjelly2830 5 жыл бұрын
Lucian, ezreal and trist are alle played in the mid lane. Faker is spamming tristana in solo que and picked here at worlds.
@stefkobl
@stefkobl 5 жыл бұрын
@@rush4g Lemme teach you what is toplane nowadays. Its bruiser against cheese mage range rats. GA Neeko, Klepto Kennen, Vladimir, Ryze, Vayne, Quinn... You think its funny to play under turret first 15 minutes and not be able to lane properly or clear with tiamat cause you are melee character?
@ouroboros1809
@ouroboros1809 5 жыл бұрын
Man botlanes not fun anymore jesus christ mages are running almost every lane now wtf
@aluksus9327
@aluksus9327 5 жыл бұрын
Trist mid is canser tho
@lorenzitoviske2920
@lorenzitoviske2920 4 жыл бұрын
Vel koz
@ivarjriibabyrbfh
@ivarjriibabyrbfh 5 жыл бұрын
All of them because mages are better than any other class because mage items are broken as all hell and riot doesn’t wanna fix it
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