12 forgotten facts about the classic Star Wars Battlefront 3

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

Elite squadrons was basically BF3 portable version but many people didn't even get to play it. Is ES the most UNDERRATED Battlefront game?

[@Synge2050]

I think Renegade Squadron is probably the most underrated. Next to the mobile phone battlefront that even I forget the name of, Renegade Squadron is probably the most obscure title in the series.

[@mrzirak792]

​@@Synge2050 honestly I'd love Renage Squadron storyline and personalization being added into BF2 or some kind of Remastered. Like, Battlefront Definitive Edition, with Rise of the Empire storyline (BF2), Fate of the Twins (BF3/ES Story), and Age of Rebellion (Renegades' story), i think it also wouod be dope to add DLC maps with content from other games, like, remember Forces of Corruption mission on Hypori (the same planet where Sha'agi died) with functional Droid factory? Ig it would make a dope EmpireVsAllianceVsCIS/Droids mode, similiar to Uprising on Kamino mission in BF2, and mission on (EU) Dathomir with Princess Leia as hero, Witches as neutral/allied local units, and Nightsisters as 3rd Faction. Stuff like that would be awesome, life could be dream.

[@cardboardgaming101]

Battlefront DS is also heavily underatted

[@KodyCrimson]

ES on DS is. ES on PSP looks horrible in comparison in terms of gameplay and the way the story's handled. X2 is a piece of cardboard on PSP but a decent character in DS.

[@Giantpotatoeman.]

At least one of. I’m lucky to have grown up with it. I always ran around with melees as a regular soldier since that was something you couldn’t do in the other games. And I enjoyed the story enough to go back and play it. It’s just one of those games that in general deserved more than what it got. Yeah it was almost complete, but even then still could’ve done with a couple more minor things added to it.

[@paulomr445]

Every time I hear about og bf3 and 4 I can't stop thinking about how robbed we were. One of biggest gripes with the new titles is they reset to a different formula instead of picking up from these ideas.

[@genericwhitekidthesecond4330]

To be fair to Dice and EA they probably couldn't. The 2015 BF reboot started production years after BF3 was canceled and Pandemic Studios had been dissolved. Although it's possible Lucas Arts reclaimed the assets of BF3 after it was canceled I wouldn't put it past them to have discarded everything they had. Afterall they never thought another Battlefront game would even be made since they canceled it 😊so why keep the data? And who knows how the bureaucracy between EA and Disney could hamper this all. Point is even if they wanted to continue this project they didn't really have anything to go on besides what the general public already has access to.

[@cillianennis9921]

@@genericwhitekidthesecond4330 they still could've tried to modernise what already existed in the original games instead of making some new thing that was basically Cod with Star wars stuff in it. Like was shown by the late stages of Battle front 2 2018 they improved it by going closer to the original style which if they had continued to work on would've made at least a game to rival the original battlefront 2 but alas they made all the DICE employees leave it to make Battlefield 2042 or some nonsense which was not a good game. ah so sad.

[@kylejaynes]

There are mods to make BF2 2017 very similar to how the OGs were

[@Matze96DAK]

What Battlefront 4 do you mean?

[@cillianennis9921]

@@Matze96DAK We only ever got concept art of the game but you likely have seen bits of it. The story was going to be a what if & had the roles reversed & stuff. I don't know the full details but I am sure youtube has some videos on the plans for the game.

[@morsecode980]

A lot of people don’t realize Elite Squadron was supposed to be the PSP port of BF3, but since the console/pc versions got cancelled, it was renamed to save face and come off as a spiritual successor to Renegade Squadron.

[@vahlok1426]

Wow, I wish I knew that when I was younger and still had a PSP. I would have done anything to play BF3.

[@commanderbenson4121]

@@vahlok1426Battlefront III Legacy It’s a mod for BF2. It’s still in development though but it looks promising and is still active

[@Heiswhoislifee]

Source: trust me bro

[@morsecode980]

@@Heiswhoislifee You can look it up. The Battlefront 3 title card can be found in Elite Squadron’s files, and if you compare the two games, they have the same campaign (mostly,) similar maps, and the heads up display is the same. Plus, games in the late 2000’s were getting PSP ports pretty often.

[@khajiitimanus7432]

This just makes me realize that Battlefront 3 never being released was an absolute travesty against mankind.

[@horshue7873]

When my dad sadly explained to me that it was cancelled. He was sad, we played those together. He wanted to play with his would be 10 year old. But instead he accidentally made his 8 year old sob. I was absolutely destroyed. I remember the feeling. I was young so i didn't know what real loss was yet. Its the same feeling you get when someone close suddenly dies. My ass was dramatic but boy was i heartbroken. Then i played es. I liked it. Until i got older, i didn't realize that i finally got to play swbf3. Even with a friend over wifi.

[@chochopete]

Es blew my mind when I was a child, I could never imagine that feels when going to orbit or back to the ground in the same battlefield

[@paulwhite8853]

As far as I remember I had the same feeling. :D

[@jameskelso2435]

When an unfinished 2006 game has more content than a game that came out in 2017 that revived updates throughout a couple of years

[@Drebolaskan]

That's EAtshit for you

[@adamortiz9292]

It’s funny because it actually doesnt

[@skybluenerd219]

​@@adamortiz9292bet

[@stonemanofgardnerville1162]

Yeah...just cope bud​@@adamortiz9292

[@christianmathew398]

@adamortiz9292- No it’s funny because it actually does.

[@mmx9316]

1:46 Vjun actually first appeared in Dark Empire II during the 1990s. One of the earliest game appearance was in Jedi Academy (2003).

[@maxloef3568]

Thank you michaelscott.gif

[@-CrimsoN-]

Yeah he kind of messed up there. I remember Vjun from the aforementioned Jedi Academy. Hate that planet....

[@UnabridgedGamer]

Thank you! I really feel like a quick Googling could’ve not only avoided this but instead put greater emphasis on how Vjun is more of an outlier to the PSP version for other reasons.

[@piratavorak]

The EU was all connected, especially in the games. I always laugh when a sequel fan says that the EU was a mess, disney couldn't even keep consistent in their films

[@jcvb7194]

​@@piratavorakyes, the EU universe made a lot of sense, after all, the authors where trying to respect the continuity in every work they made. Now in canon and the animated series , all looks like an contradictory mess, but their fans defends them like it was top notch writing, is hilarious.

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

Thanks to comments, A Quick correction: Vjun Wasn't created specifically for ES, it was introduced in other EU material like Jedi Academy. My mistake

[@PsychoC4rnivore]

Seamless flying between ground battles and space battle would be dope and should be a thing now with the capabilities of current gen consoles and PCs

[@MarsiB013]

Battlefront 3 Legacy exists.

[@johnconnor4094]

@@MarsiB013if you can get that mod to work on the Steam 2005 BF2 game. When I downloaded it it didnt work. But then again, I may try again to see if it will work.

[@MarsiB013]

​@@johnconnor4094 Same. It doesn't work for me either on the Steam version. It worked on my cracked BF2 back in the day. It was glorious. Capital ships crashing into the planet surface was beautiful.

[@cillianennis9921]

the graphics obsession of tripple A games will never let the power of a modern computer do that but the modders using old games can.

[@ethnol3842]

I never knew that battlefront 3 was planned to have dlc packs. Very interesting…

[@thestørmcrier2024]

It’s interesting how some of these ideas made it into bf2 classic through mods and not many people know it. Thank God for modders.

[@Jackson-yu8um]

Fun fact, everyone believes the world went down the darkest path when harambe died, but it actually went dark once bf3 was cancelled.

[@Nemopoly]

Harambe died from a fentanyl overdose

[@deadshot5007]

1:44 Vjin was introduced way back in the 90s and was featured in Jedi Academy.

[@LuiDeca]

That moment when even the PSP battlefronts had galactic conquest but not the new Battlefronts from DICE.

[@MarsiB013]

There were not enough planets in EA's Battlefronts to make Galactic Conquest.

[@frost-hj4cp]

​@@MarsiB013that was kinda his point

[@MarsiB013]

@@frost-hj4cp No, his point was to shit on EA's Battlefronts just because those didn't have GC.

[@frost-hj4cp]

@@MarsiB013 it's not shit if it's true though

[@MarsiB013]

@@frost-hj4cp Yeah, it is. Because there was no point in making GC. It would have been illogical at the time. EA's Battlefronts are bigger and more complicated modern games than the OG Battlefronts. They didn't got the time to finish Battlefront 2. I'm sure, DICE would have done GC.

[@vampiricpig1392]

The games just kept expanding ideas and gameplay, so innovative. Shame the series never got to see its fullest potential

[@4lphab3t4]

Vjun ("Vuh-Joon") was originally released in the Dark Empire comic in the early 90s. It was later re-used in the video game Jedi Academy, and Legends novels Yoda: Dark Rendezvous and Junior Jedi Knights: Vader's Fortress. Like a lot of things introduced in the poorly-received Dark Empire, it was rarely re-used or directly referenced as a lot of writers tried to forget Dark Empire existed. Another example of this was Byss, another Imperial fortress world from DE that was later re-used in the Jedi Academy game.

[@invaderIRK1]

Evacuated a capital ship via escape pod in Elite Squadrons was always the best feeling 👌

[@gnbman]

How much of BF3 has become playable through leaks? It would be a dream if fans somehow compiled leaks and Elite Squadron together into something of a full BF3. I know that would be a massive amount of work though.

[@Subtl443]

Actually there's a mod called bf3 legacy for the original bf2 who tries to bring back all the concepts we know about the cancelled bf3, it's still under development but the team working on it is very active

[@gnbman]

@@Subtl443 well that's cool

[@Sagevil]

Damn we were so robbed. Battlefront 3 would be a classic today if it actually came out.

[@chuckingreaper8654]

Did you know that in Battlefront 2, if you reset while in the grip of the Rancor, you would spawn rapid health, ammo, health/ammo and stamina packs during the animation? Worked in the Xbox version and was a good way to camp central map as you could easily buff up when the medical droid was destroyed.

[@finnie9223]

It works if you shoot someone right as theyre being eaten by the rancor too. Just found out about this from a friend because we still sometimes play it

[@JTenacious]

We were robbed, but four dlcs available at LAUNCH is absolutely ridiculous.

[@The-Black-Death]

Vjun wasn't originally made by the creators of Battlefront 3/Elite Squadron, it was a planet in the lore long before the game was being developed.

[@gabethebabe3337]

Vjun wasn’t an original planet for BFES. It was first shown in Dark Empire and has appeared in books and the Jedi Academy game. Bast Castle originally belonged to Dooku, but was taken by Vader years later. It’s a cool castle and way more interesting looking than Disney canon’s Lord of the Rings ripoff.

[@joethascorpio1651]

Maybe one we'll get a true Battlefront 3. maybe..

[@dn2064]

I loved Elite Squadron, it was a huge part of my childhood and I cherish those memories

[@o_oo_o1812]

imho renegade squadron was the best battlefront game, and the customized loadouts are really important

[@fuzzyotterpaws4395]

I still like BF2 Galactic Conquest better with buying different units and stuff. I'm excited to finally be able to play it multiplayer apparently! Being able to find someone online and actually need strategy in how I play and what I buy instead of just the AI sounds great!

[@cheater21211]

The more I hear about BF3 the more angry I get that it was destroyed

[@Aurik-Kal-Durin]

It's sad that Battlefront III only exists as a stripped-down mobile game for PSP that most of us never even got to play.

[@DocValRob]

Imagine Aspyer saying fuck it and making BF3

[@battlefrontarchives]

Their where not 4 dlc packs planned and they where not gonna be available at launch. Their where 3 dlc packs planned to release sometime after bf3. The dlc would have had 1 additional map from each prequel movie. The first was Naboo, second was Geonosis, and the third was Kashyyyk beachfront. However when frd signed on for bf4 the dlc plans would all be canceled and Naboo and Geo where moved to battlefront 4. Where as Kashyyyk beach was combined with the main kashyyyk map in the game to make one giant map

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

I read that fact in the GDD, so must have been early on that they planned to have the dlc maps. But I didn't know they changed it

[@battlefrontarchives]

@@Hero_of_Sinnohyea I wouldn’t expect you to know lol, the updated dlc map list is only mentioned in a Q/A doc a couple months before they signed on for bf4

[@GMMReviews]

1:42 - Vjun was actually a playable level in Jedi Academy released in 2003, so it wasn't an original planet made for BF3. It was also a level where you explore one of Vader's Castles.

[@DanBen07]

Vjun was actually in the expanded universe before this game. (It was one of my favourite locations on the PSP) "Vjun is mistakenly referred to as Djun in Star Wars: Dark Empire II. Early press releases for Yoda: Dark Rendezvous also used the name Djun. Vjun is pronounced as "VAH-JUHN" in Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy, but in Star Wars Battlefront: Elite Squadron, it is pronounced as "VUHN". Its Also in the game Star Wars: Rebellion & and other books and comics.

[@Montagne1234]

I so wish this game was released I would have loved it as a kid

[@thenothingking]

Elite squadron was my child self's favorite game. I played it for HOURS every day.

[@reeyuh526]

Gah damn. This is the Battlefront I wanted. I wanted to be able to go from space to planet surface and back during matches

[@BernieTheDevastator]

The artillery room like from revenge of the sith always gave me a kick ass idea. Imagine this Sea of thieves naval combat right? But on a giant capital ship with like 50 crew members. Like some could b gunners. Some could be fighter/bomber pilots. Some could be engineers fixing hull damage.

[@TheSpinningShadow48]

The fact that you could fly between the trenches of the Death Star and even explore/evacuate capital ships HURTS considering SWBFIII was cancelled at the last second.

[@kabob0077]

3:45 The MEC trooper was originally in Renegade Squadron, also the helmet options are Clone Commando helmet, Bacara's helmet, and the Clone Paratrooper helmet.

[@charlieboi8395]

I don’t think I’ll ever be able to fully get over this

[@Capt_CrimsoN]

Me either friend....me either...

[@brandoncrook5361]

I guess Elite Squadron was where the beginning of the force unleashed ties in because Vader goes to Kashyyk to kill a Jedi now I could just be pulling straws but I find that interesting

[@brianmoyachiuz905]

I know this might be a kinda dumb but interesting idea is that there should be a battle royal with just Stormtroopers, and you have a certain amount of lives and you can pick any of the 4 classes plus you can upgrade with advanced classes with a timer

[@doctorcorvus1319]

I would love if a group of designers would take all the BF3 assets they have and just make their own original game with it, that would be neat

[@Focking_panzas_mileurista]

Elite Squadron will always be my favourite game of these series. Such a game on PC or a TV console would have been the shit.

[@kabob0077]

1:46 Correction, Vjun was introduced and mentioned in Dark Empire II (then named Djun) and its first appearance was in Dark Empire 6 while, too my knowledge at least, the first time we ever get a level in a Star Wars game set on the Vjun it was in Star Wars: Dark Forces 4: Jedi Knight 3: Jedi Outcast 2: Jedi Academy. Now, the first game to INCLUDE the planet is probably Star Wars: Rebellion.

[@PepeBote11a]

Loving these videos, this games deserved this type of content

[@npaul12]

Elite squadron is so good. I havent gotten around to it, but ive been wanting to buy a psp just for that game. Customizable classes too.

[@darkninjacorporation]

I honestly was starting to think I just dreamt up BF Elite Squadron on the PSP with the character customization and shit

[@cillianennis9921]

It makes me so sad that we never got a chance to play the game that would've been a masterpiece that I am sure would've defined a genre like doom, Half-life, Resident Evil, & Resident Evil 4 all had done before. The perfect star wars game we never truly got but I am happy to hear that most of it does exist thanks to it being on the PSP. Damn I hope one day that star wars regains its independence from Disney to allow games like this to exist instead of being shilled to big corporate soulless companies like EA or Ubisoft but instead to smaller new companies that show more promise like Pandemic to allow star wars to be anything it can be instead of what some out of touch executives think will make them richer than they already are. A classic we'll never get, that was lost to time. Rest in piece Pandemic studios you may not have made many games but the ones I've played or heard where being made sounded amazing.

[@gilbert64]

the problem with battlefront 2 for the psp not only was the console limitations, but the external as well, savage entertainment not only had to port the game's engine to a completely new platform, they had to port it before the dvd's release of episode 3, if they had more time (and budget) they could ported a lot more of the main version and make a better experience

[@ricoo1861]

MEC Troopers have modifed Katarn class armor, thats why you get the option for an RC helmet. Nothing to do with inspiration for a character that wasnt concepted until way after the original TCW release date

[@AerixArtGames]

I gotta just subscribe to ya man. Loving these battlefront videos, it’s all such a trip down memory lane I gotta see it all in my feed. Interestingly, according to this one while I was NOT a part of the official BF3 development team, I was a part of a pretty great recreation (fan project) team of the game years ago. We were using Unreal Engine 4, we had everything in it, from the campaign missions to the combat, game modes and assets and even gained some decent traction revolving around it. Unfortunately that also never came to fruition, and the cancelled game was again; cancelled.

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

Honestly a shame that battlefront 3 is so cursed, even for fan projects. But glad your enjoying these vids, same with me it brings back so much memories of what was so great back then.

[@sgtboom7]

The shock, disappointment, depression, and anger I feel whenever I hear about what would've been in BF3 before its cancellation will never go away. Truly we live in the wrong timeline.

[@The_Punisher]

I hope either a really good modder or some company makes a game similar to what Battlefront 3 was supposed to be with its planet and space combat all connected

[@roger201288]

We were stripped of something legendary and instead given the 2 shiny garbage shitfests from EA... tragic

[@MarsiB013]

BF2EA is great.

[@Ultimodestructico]

BF1 EA was amazing, just needed much more content

[@lucyhades6818]

something funny to add was that there was a Nintendo DS port to Elite Squadron, and it didnt play anything like the version you showed xD

[@bsgfan1]

Correction: ES didn’t introduce Vjunn. It appeared in several Star Wars works since the 90’s. The one I remember the most was in Jedi Academy

[@megagamernick9883]

I used to play Elite squadron all the time on my 3ds it was so much fun. Maybe compare the PSP and DS variants

[@HeyhoBrando]

I’m hoping we get Elite released after hearing about the battlefront collection

[@TheSpy149]

I never knew bf3 was a thing

[@alsknbullwrm]

They fumbled the bag so hard 😭

[@bingisboy]

The Engineer has a Detpack, not a Jetpack, and doesn’t resemble the markings of the Episode 3 promotional material Clones.

[@kabob0077]

2:13 Specifically Kota before Galen took his eyesight.

[@piratavorak]

thanks disney for giving EA of all companies to make star wars games, another thing disney destroyed for star wars fans

[@Akysh.b]

We need helldivers’ devs to create Star Wars game about republic commando

[@drlca6601]

Vjun was in Jedi Academy, youngling.

[@MDE128]

We need Star Wars Battlefront III with improved graphics and all of its intended content.

[@jmjedi923]

Vjun wasnt completely new, this wasnt even its first video game appearance! It was in Jedi Knight 3, Jedi Academy. Takes place in vaders castle too!

[@Appleboy78165]

It’s been like 15 years and I’m still mad that BF3 got canceled

[@JohnWilliams-wl9px]

I honestly doubt that if BF3 did came out the game would have been toned down. All these features just scream 360/PS3 wouldn’t have been able to run it smoothly

[@tommymaxey2665]

My god we were so close to greatest with battlefront 3. If only Lucasfilm didn't cancel the game when Disney bought them

[@MacAndSheeeeesh]

Me, with longing: “OH IT’S SO COOL!”

[@IvanKinkle]

Vjun is from the EU, it was even in Jedi Academy.

[@NatalieN500]

i loved Elite Squadron on DS

[@toothpastemain]

4:44 BF2 has directional attack animations

[@Galaxius2117]

I wish ES was available on other platforms as well since I don't have either a PSP or NDS..

[@Starkiller2725]

I will never not be sad about BF3. It was going to be the greatest SW game ever made. Nothing comes close to it from the SW games even today.

[@bingisboy]

Vjun is not a completely original planet. It appeared in multiple expanded universe properties prior.

[@kyrroti]

I only played Elite Squadron on the DS. It’s definitely different

[@FoxySpartan117]

By different you mean sucks hard in comparison. (I did not have a psp)

[@MarsiB013]

Jet Trooper markings are nothing like the 442nd Siege Battalion markings.

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

442 resemble the 212, jet trooper from bf3 more like 501st but must have taken some inspiration.

[@CloneCommanderCrater1102]

​@Hero_of_Sinnoh I doubt the jet trooper took any inspiration from the 442nd. Literally the ONLY similarity between the two is that they both use a similar shade of green, that's it.

[@MarsiB013]

@@Hero_of_Sinnoh Nah, it's more like the 327th or the 181st on this matter. The Heavy Trooper has the same markings just in red.

[@MarsiB013]

​@@Hero_of_Sinnoh That promotional material shows 442nd Troopers.

[@Victor_Nova_56]

Wasn't ES also on the DS? I remember playing it, but it did not look like this, for good reason, I know.

[@neobrutalist5233]

You should showcase the SW BF 2 Remaster mod. There is a lot there that you can milk for content

[@wingedwolf111]

Vjun made several appearances in novels and the Jedi Knight Jedi academy game.....

[@battlefrontarchives]

That trailer that at 2:55 is fake the bf3 version that is it’s just edited with a fan made logo for bf3 the real logo can be found on the vault website along with the actual reveal trailer which we only have in an unfinished format that trailer is also found on my channel 2007 one.

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

ohh my bad ahah. Thanks for the insight! Also love your work on the website! Did you also do the mod for Legacy?

[@battlefrontarchives]

⁠@@Hero_of_Sinnoh I am a former dev for legacy but now I just consult for them and work on my own bf3 stuff

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

@@battlefrontarchives Awesome!

[@CloneCommanderCrater1102]

Yeah, isn't that the trailer for Battlefront Elite Squadron?

[@NickV-ez4be]

Remember the days when video games were fun?

[@tristane6645]

I had ES on DS and it looked no where as good as the psvita version, it was still fun as a kid tho, could never beat the final boss :(

[@LuiDeca]

Vjun isn't an unique planet. It showed up in Jedi Academy several years before.

[@carnage0685]

Oh, the potential we missed...

[@ohtontheknight3879]

I really want to see how the heroes new combat system plays

[@FinalConsensus]

Renegade Squadron would be BF3 since it came out before Elite

[@MarsiB013]

Renegade Squadron was a spinoff

[@RobinSwede]

I would accept a monumental graphics downgrade if it facilitated a huge scale ground to space map like what was planned for BF3.

[@johnconnor4094]

Never forgive the people who said “can this game…..focus elsewhere”

[@johnconnor4094]

The BF2 galactic Conquest was a better system than the BF1 Galactic Conquest system, cant change my mind.

[@MarsiB013]

​@@johnconnor4094 It was more strategy based but playing the same space battle over and over again was tiresome.

[@micshork]

I really wish BF3 had released.

[@Kai-fz1xh]

Why can’t we have features like this in games today????

[@Kai-fz1xh]

I can’t even remember a game that has escape pods as a gameplay feature

[@miquelmontielsarquella4020]

Vjun is not original from BF3. The 1st time appears is in Dark Empire!

[@hardcorehuman2235]

we were robbed of the greatest star wars game

[@enclave6982]

We were robbed of star wars battlefront 3

[@Demetrius900000]

Why was BF3 cancelled?

[@battlefrontarchives]

If you want I can give you a list of actual fun obscure facts about the ps2, ps3, PC, 360 and in versions of bf3 that only me and clonecommOmar really know

[@Hero_of_Sinnoh]

if you want to I'm all ears ahah

[@battlefrontarchives]

@@Hero_of_SinnohKashyyyk is the only planet based maps that was not featured in any of the bf3 footage released. This is because the map was unfinished and undergoing another revision following its complete redesign from what we see in r70127 (the leaked build)

[@battlefrontarchives]

In the final version of kashyyyk a clone wars Easter egg was added to the holo galaxy in one of the rooms in the treehouses Adding aerubesh text for Hoth, Jabiim , Dagobah, Tatooin (Tatooine spelled wrong), and kashyyyk . I can send you an image of this

[@battlefrontarchives]

Frd throughout development would just straight up tell lucasarts no to things they specifically requested and or they would say they would address it and then they would never get to fixing it

[@battlefrontarchives]

I will send you more once I get my coffee lol

[@KevinLikesRTS]

We could get it with success or the rerelease