12 gauge 3 inch vs 3.5 inch shot shells

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Paul Harrell

Paul Harrell

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Paul tests the difference between 12 gauge 3 inch shells and 3.5 inch shells.
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@tulestomping1551
@tulestomping1551 3 жыл бұрын
Now we know the real reason for the ammo and weapon shortage....Paul has ANOTHER Shooting jacket....
@Heldermaior
@Heldermaior 3 жыл бұрын
Hehehe. I wish that were the case. It is mostly people being idiots and panic buying inordinate amounts of ammo because reasons. The same when people buy pasta and toilet paper. I think after the beer pandemic is over, a lot of people are going to be selling ammo that they don't have a chance to use.
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын
@@Heldermaior I am looking forward to having ammo to buy from them. It's not looking good for a peaceful transition of power after the 2020 election in the US. I really pray I am wrong about this.
@Heldermaior
@Heldermaior 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScottKenny1978 Should Trump lose, I don't think his supporters will have the numbers they think they do. And if they begin domestic terrorism, it will be a fitting end for them.
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын
@@Heldermaior I'm actually more worried about the other way. Should Trump win, I expect massive violent protests.
@ookapelirekkars6156
@ookapelirekkars6156 3 жыл бұрын
@@Heldermaior i think he has more supporters then you think. Just look at the number of supporters at President Trumps rallies compared to Biden's.
@gophergarage
@gophergarage 3 жыл бұрын
In the midst of political ads, it's so refreshing to watch Paul uninterrupted. My Sunday got much better!!
@molanlabexm15
@molanlabexm15 3 жыл бұрын
I just installed an Ad Blocker for Firefox and I have no idea why I didnt do it sooner.
@danielrodgers6983
@danielrodgers6983 3 жыл бұрын
I always hit the thumbs down on liberal political ads if they allow feed back
@sean7173
@sean7173 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ticklethealgorithm Lol I use an ad blocker and donate to Paul's patreon, guess I'm stealing from Paul. Plus, KZbin makes the most money off of ads and Paul is already demonetized to hell and back
@sean7173
@sean7173 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ticklethealgorithm my first post? This is my first post. Ad revenue accounts for a very small percentage of Paul's revenue, and Patreon is his source of revenue off of this channel. And I encourage anybody who doesn't have the time of day to sit around and listen to some bullshit advertisement to use an adblocker. You ain't a better person for licking the corporate boot.
@dsnyder613
@dsnyder613 3 жыл бұрын
! :&ll
@balasaashti3146
@balasaashti3146 3 жыл бұрын
Paul Harrell is the teacher we all wanted but never deserved. .
@TherealTenmanI
@TherealTenmanI 3 жыл бұрын
If schools had him teaching his scientific method rather than literally nothing that I got in 15 years of schooling in australia, we would have people able to think.
@hulado
@hulado 3 жыл бұрын
and he cant throw us out of class.
@regularfather4708
@regularfather4708 3 жыл бұрын
Paul Harrell for secretary of education!
@ab5olut3zero95
@ab5olut3zero95 3 жыл бұрын
@@regularfather4708 and defense
@regularfather4708
@regularfather4708 3 жыл бұрын
@@ab5olut3zero95 everything will flow from there. Paul will teach the children about peace through superior firepower and the world will enter an era of peace and harmony that will stand for generations. Its all part of his plan.
@warrenmargetson597
@warrenmargetson597 3 жыл бұрын
Spider gets home from work: Hey kids, you'll never guess what happened to me today!
@MeanestManAlive
@MeanestManAlive 3 жыл бұрын
You mean all the ones chewed up by the birdshot lol.
@warrenmargetson597
@warrenmargetson597 3 жыл бұрын
No, the one at the start.
@Des420
@Des420 3 жыл бұрын
@@warrenmargetson597 That spider was a female...
@warrenmargetson597
@warrenmargetson597 3 жыл бұрын
@@Des420 female spiders dont goto work?
@Des420
@Des420 3 жыл бұрын
@@warrenmargetson597 Male spiders don't tend to build webs in most species. They go off looking for females' burrows/webs, etc. for breeding.
@proonguice8386
@proonguice8386 3 жыл бұрын
Relax everyone, Paul didn’t get a new jacket. He’s not wearing a shirt in this episode.
@regularfather4708
@regularfather4708 3 жыл бұрын
No no. My wife and I have seen him without a shirt on, and now I feel inadequate and my wife left.
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 3 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? I was wondering why Paul had only head, hands and legs. And the pulled ammo boxes from thin air.
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure.....all I saw was beige trousers walking around with a shotgun floating in mid air.....camo you say?
@phillippearce9680
@phillippearce9680 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@michaeljames4904
@michaeljames4904 3 жыл бұрын
Just illustrates that when Paul travels far from home he considers it prudent to do so only in camouflage.
@williamkowalchik572
@williamkowalchik572 3 жыл бұрын
Let us all have a moment of silence and may be a short pray for Paul's shoulder.
@reshpeck
@reshpeck 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be more concerned with the condition of his gun stocks
@pagamenews
@pagamenews 3 жыл бұрын
I have shot rifles like the 458 Win Mag and 460 Wby Mag. Those calibers really didn't bother me. The absolute hardest recoiling guns I have fired were the 3.5 inch magnum 12 gauge shotguns. I have a Remington 870 Supermag chambered for the 3.5 inch shells. The shotgun I speak of has not been fired in the past dozen or so year because it's just too brutal to shoot.
@pagamenews
@pagamenews 3 жыл бұрын
@@reshpeck When I decided to buy a 3.5 inch magnum 12 gauge, I made sure I bought one with a polymer stock. I actually hate polymer stocks, but on a heavy recoiling shotgun, the wood is prone to crack and split where it meets with the receiver.
@chuck300mxc
@chuck300mxc 3 жыл бұрын
Try shooting a 10 gauge single shot with a 36 in barrel, with 3 1/2 Nitro Mag shells......kills at both ends. Lol
@williamkowalchik572
@williamkowalchik572 3 жыл бұрын
@@chuck300mxc Had a friend who thought he could shoot a double barrel "two trigger" by using both fingers. Was trap shooting with it and worked great. First duck that flew over disappeared in a puff of feathers. Two 3 1/2 Rem. 12 ga Nitro mags. He was on his back gun was in the mud behind him with a cracked stock.
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 3 жыл бұрын
Paul, you're a national treasure friend. Nothin but love.
@wildcatindustries8030
@wildcatindustries8030 3 жыл бұрын
A good bonfire going, just relaxed after a day of clean up things that need to be burnt, sat down and seen a new Paul Harrell video. Today turned out to be a pretty good day.
@mattcolumbia7948
@mattcolumbia7948 3 жыл бұрын
With such a limited supply and type of ammunition, that was very informative and well put together. Thank you Mr. Harrell.
@urbanjungle9600
@urbanjungle9600 3 жыл бұрын
Despite the change of jacket I am glad he still had the foresight to select a garment where he could reach into his pockets and bring out ammunition. There’s something very satisfying about pocketing ammo and this gentlemen does it with aplomb.
@dankuchar6821
@dankuchar6821 3 жыл бұрын
I love those Mary Poppins pockets!
@JusticeForSome
@JusticeForSome 3 жыл бұрын
Had to look up the word aplomb. Never seen it used in my 40+ years on this rock...good on you sir. You used that word with atypical aplomb.
@Fightosaurus
@Fightosaurus 3 жыл бұрын
It’s just like my wife says: 2.75 inches should be enough for anyone!
@NoWr2Run
@NoWr2Run 3 жыл бұрын
NOICE, LMAO.
@jcraigshelton
@jcraigshelton 3 жыл бұрын
For the win!
@Tyrfingr
@Tyrfingr 3 жыл бұрын
It's all about the velocity 😂
@GMULEMAN
@GMULEMAN 3 жыл бұрын
My wife said give me 9 inches and make it hurt So I did it 3 times, then pinched her!
@afberglund2764
@afberglund2764 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tyrfingr and number of impacts in the vital center of the target
@Leverguns50
@Leverguns50 3 жыл бұрын
This what is a very good comparison and it makes a lot of sense, i’ve killed plenty of turkeys with 2 3/4inch shells
@vidard9863
@vidard9863 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen the end of the video yet, but it makes sense. The difference between a 2 3/4 and a three inch shell is six pellets and only a 1/4 inch. That means less powder and a longer pellet column, slower pellets have more time to spread and a longer column probably produces more chaos coming out of the barrel, which would mean more spread. The point of the larger shells seems to be to put more projectiles down range in a larger pattern. Such as if you wanted to hit multiple birds with one shot, or one deer with a very bad shot, but irrelevant if you are engaging one target with decent aim.... And this also explains why 2 3/4 became standard. A most enlightening video.
@Predalien195
@Predalien195 3 жыл бұрын
@@vidard9863 The problem I always saw was nobody kept the pellet count the same but upped the powder charge in a 3 inch shell. This would drastically increase the velocity which depending on if you're using buckshot or slugs could completely change performance. However I believe they didn't because 12 gauge is still a low pressure round and is essentially loaded to black powder specs even to this day albeit with modern powders.
@vidard9863
@vidard9863 3 жыл бұрын
@@Predalien195 the legacy chamber pressure is definitely a problem, however they don't seem to be trying to even get more distance out of the extra space for powder and specialist wads. I wonder if to them the point is just the larger pattern because it does seem to pattern fairly evenly which SEEMS intentional...
@latigomorgan
@latigomorgan 3 жыл бұрын
The main reason I went with 3" for my turkey loads was to keep them separate from my upland and sporting clays loads.
@Leverguns50
@Leverguns50 3 жыл бұрын
Latigo Morgan I usually use 3 inch for the same reason
@youraverageboy55
@youraverageboy55 3 жыл бұрын
I just wanna say how much I love this channel Please keep doing what you're doing
@mandodelorian4668
@mandodelorian4668 3 жыл бұрын
Paul used the jacket with "the thickest padded shooting shoulder" for this video because he didn't want to damage his shotguns.
@waylongroves200
@waylongroves200 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@jamesswitzerjr336
@jamesswitzerjr336 3 жыл бұрын
😂 Paul is the Chuck Norris of gun videos.
@richarddavis1884
@richarddavis1884 3 жыл бұрын
There is significantly more science to ammunition choice than I realized. Great video! Thanks Paul.
@senya6095
@senya6095 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this can get pretty complicated at times, though it never stops being interesting.
@onpsxmember
@onpsxmember 3 жыл бұрын
Are you aware of the Taofledermaus channel? You might want to check that out as well.
@EthanMcKee.
@EthanMcKee. 3 жыл бұрын
@@onpsxmember the younger guy gets on my nerves. He seems to get noticeably aggravated at old man all the time and acts like a smartass
@onpsxmember
@onpsxmember 3 жыл бұрын
@@EthanMcKee. That could be connected to that he does almost everything besides recording and the "old guy" is glad he can focus on the high speed camera setup. Breanna has a bit too much energy for me, but I'd really like a rotation between OG(the younger guy), Danny (the one improving his health) and Breanna. (idk if it's spelled like that). Keep in mind that the collaboration is different cause OG is growing his own channel so he does double duty, triple duty counting his regular job.
@gavinrobinson8925
@gavinrobinson8925 10 ай бұрын
@@EthanMcKee. I have no idea what you are on about. I think your brain might be damaged.
@kdw75
@kdw75 3 жыл бұрын
Missouri! I live outside KC. We should have rolled out the red carpet. Glad to have you in this neck of the woods.
@Iceaxehikes
@Iceaxehikes 3 жыл бұрын
The grass and crickets are nice. We already have a foot of snow here in Wyoming. Great presentation as usual.
@tyrranicalt-rad6164
@tyrranicalt-rad6164 3 жыл бұрын
This video has everything !!! New jacket, Missouri, spiders !!!!
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 3 жыл бұрын
But no meat target.
@ab5olut3zero95
@ab5olut3zero95 3 жыл бұрын
@@dr.floridamanphd damn ammo shortage...!
@patrickgriffitt6551
@patrickgriffitt6551 3 жыл бұрын
Where in Missouri(Missoura if you are a native in some areas)
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickgriffitt6551, I think Joplin.
@OrangesmokeM7
@OrangesmokeM7 3 жыл бұрын
Welp...I was going to sleep guess I’ll be awake for another 19 minutes 🤣👍
@2ndarymotion
@2ndarymotion 3 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding? After watching this, you won’t sleep for days.
@jaws2003
@jaws2003 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. Lol.
@pennyghostpennyghost7000
@pennyghostpennyghost7000 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, now its time for bed.
@punk303
@punk303 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly my situation.... Now I am afraid of nightmares... I have shot 3.5 tungsten turkey loads before
@FableCountry
@FableCountry 3 жыл бұрын
Watch at 1.5x or 2x speed. It helps watching through more vids :)
@iboopedyournose
@iboopedyournose 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t going to click on the video thinking “oh well, what good can a half inch do”, but then was reminded by a yearning in the back of my brain that maybe it does make a difference. Guess I’ll be reminding my significant other that it doesn’t really matter, citing this presentation as clear evidence! Thanks for the info! 😅
@snuffygrunt2842
@snuffygrunt2842 3 жыл бұрын
He's a lucky to have you.
@mikesdname1
@mikesdname1 3 жыл бұрын
let us know if she buys it
@mikedillon6233
@mikedillon6233 3 жыл бұрын
Dang this makes my night! I was just lamenting that he hadn't put one out this week at all, and dang if you didn't put one of his videos up tonight!
@billduntley2091
@billduntley2091 3 жыл бұрын
Went on youtube hoping for a video for tonight, showed up a minute into the upload, gotta love paul's material
@sski
@sski 3 жыл бұрын
Thinking the same. I was like, "Where's Mr. Harrell? So unlike him to miss a week." and yet here he is. All is well now.
@timothybayliss6680
@timothybayliss6680 3 жыл бұрын
The subtitles for the first shot reads [applause]. This is the most incidental metastatement since speech to text operated at a functional level.
@turdferguson6648
@turdferguson6648 3 жыл бұрын
I think that was the first time I've ever heard Paul's directorial in the footage with a "cut, print".
@fruitfarmfords8243
@fruitfarmfords8243 3 жыл бұрын
Someone will be getting the "meat target treatment" for that f-up.
@bigkoppa5816
@bigkoppa5816 3 жыл бұрын
I actually kind of liked it. I'd like to see 20 minutes of Pauls' outtakes and bloopers (not that Paul ever blooped anything).
@higgydufrane
@higgydufrane 3 жыл бұрын
I look forward to watching Paul pull things out of his coat in a controlled and properly oriented fashion. It just really works for me. Carry on Paul!
@milesedgeworth946
@milesedgeworth946 3 жыл бұрын
the man always uploads when im going to bed but the info is so good i always stay up
@LSDelta92
@LSDelta92 3 жыл бұрын
3 minutes and its already got 500+ plus views. I can feel the excitement
@coltonwelsh1713
@coltonwelsh1713 5 ай бұрын
Fellow Missouri boy here just subscribed love the no bullshit content. Straight to the point and clear
@techmarine83
@techmarine83 3 жыл бұрын
First off let me state that I LOVE your videos. I thoroughly enjoy what others have called long winded explanations.
@Spike-13
@Spike-13 3 жыл бұрын
INSTANT CLICK
3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Justapatriot02
@Justapatriot02 3 жыл бұрын
And like
@nesquick84
@nesquick84 3 жыл бұрын
Instant like
@meikasroom851
@meikasroom851 3 жыл бұрын
Swear dude, I dropped everything 🤣
@ToggBott
@ToggBott 3 жыл бұрын
8816 even before the video started
@victor-fowler
@victor-fowler 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Harrel, your breakdown and analysis of ballistics is borderline biblical in its ability to convey important information. Thank you again for another stellar video.
@davidburroughs7068
@davidburroughs7068 3 жыл бұрын
1. Watch a Paul Harrell video. 2. Dump a bunch of my previous conceptions. Thanks, Paul!
@dcrog69
@dcrog69 3 жыл бұрын
Videos like these are what makes this channel so great.
@TheNeckcutter81
@TheNeckcutter81 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing the difference between the two length of rounds.
@joshuazoldschool4720
@joshuazoldschool4720 3 жыл бұрын
Just when I was beginning to think that today was a wash...Mr.Harrel blesses me with another bit of useful knowledge.👍
@tyeeggleston6159
@tyeeggleston6159 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing a new Paul Harrell video is like finding another package under the Christmas tree...YESSSSS!!!
@kaiserc2471
@kaiserc2471 3 жыл бұрын
15:09 Can we get some behind the scenes best of compilation? "Paul Harrell's Top Takes" maybe?
@imissyoujimmy
@imissyoujimmy 3 жыл бұрын
Paul's gonna be using his editor as a meat target
@garyclark9725
@garyclark9725 3 жыл бұрын
Paul only needs 1 take.
@kaiserc2471
@kaiserc2471 3 жыл бұрын
@@imissyoujimmy lol
@phantom629
@phantom629 3 жыл бұрын
Paul is relaxed at a training facility in Missouri hence the faux pas
@kaiserc2471
@kaiserc2471 3 жыл бұрын
@@phantom629 its not a faux pas, its a Harrelism.
@MagicSpud
@MagicSpud 3 жыл бұрын
The Hunting Jacket has evolved...
@ahuman2695
@ahuman2695 3 жыл бұрын
Evolved but also devolved.... Pockets haven't increased the amount of guns they can fit
@ZSmith-yy4lv
@ZSmith-yy4lv 3 жыл бұрын
@@ahuman2695 you just cant see them due to the new camo design
@ahuman2695
@ahuman2695 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZSmith-yy4lv wait, he is wearing camo? I thought part of his torso disappeared
@alexduke5402
@alexduke5402 3 жыл бұрын
What jacket?
@ahuman2695
@ahuman2695 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexduke5402 i am wondering tge same thing
@brocnewton5249
@brocnewton5249 3 жыл бұрын
How does he not have 1 million subs yet!?
@danielamador5932
@danielamador5932 3 жыл бұрын
@MrCevant I think that’s exactly why he doesn’t. Everyone that you listed likes to take information and base a presentation around it and give you their opinion, while Paul likes to give the information with a bit of brevity and allow you to make up your mind based on the facts.
@charlesholder8009
@charlesholder8009 3 жыл бұрын
After a year of watching Pauls videos, I find myself talking to people about Caveats and holding up fingers to show how many points I need to make. 😁
@TheKentuckyPatriot
@TheKentuckyPatriot 3 жыл бұрын
You always have the most interesting test! This is one of many reasons why I have said for years that Paul Harrell has the best channel on all of KZbin!!
@awbernardy
@awbernardy 3 жыл бұрын
Paul Harrell if you want some 3.5" buck shot let me know I have a "few boxes" I might be able to get to you ....
@RolandsDad
@RolandsDad 3 жыл бұрын
will send likes for ammo. One like = one pellet
@specialperson170
@specialperson170 3 жыл бұрын
@Captain Phlikenpoots go to a bigger city or more anti gun cities we sell it fast but it's very possible to get same with handgun ammo it sells fast but very possible to get if your patient
@snafuequals
@snafuequals 3 жыл бұрын
My city is 90% dem, I bought m193 last week for 35cpr!
@Grizzleback07
@Grizzleback07 3 жыл бұрын
You always know when it is going to start getting cold when you start seeing orb weaver spiders in their webs by your door and gutters in Missouri.
@chubbycatfish4573
@chubbycatfish4573 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this video! Thanks Paul!
@normanmack2368
@normanmack2368 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding shotgun shooting. This 25 yard, 40 yard, and 50 yard targets with small targets are exceptional I assume most people don't realize how good shot you are. I realize the shotgun had a long barrel. You actually proved how difficult it is to drop any birds or game. Keep up the good work.
@goindownhill1116
@goindownhill1116 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. I’m all about 2 3/4 shot shell. My experience in the field has convinced me that it doesn’t make a big enough difference on harvesting birds, ducks, or coyotes to justify the price and RECOIL. Pattern your gun with 2 3/4 inch shells and get out there. Thanks for the video.
@billduntley2091
@billduntley2091 3 жыл бұрын
Hot dog, 1 minute in for Pauls new video. Shot of beam and a beer, life's good
@billduntley2091
@billduntley2091 3 жыл бұрын
@Yuck Foutube different strokes. Don't get gin blossoms from it, and it gets the job done. I save the single malt scotch for sipping, ya know. It's beam and bud, just got off work. I'll take it.
@ModernArcher262
@ModernArcher262 3 жыл бұрын
For sure. At least a double ( or triple) for me and a brew is a nice start.
@billduntley2091
@billduntley2091 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tnuggz420 jesus. Yeah, I do drink scotch. Islay isle is my jam. I'm eating frozen food after a 13 hour shift and drinking a bud, read the room.
@nitramza861
@nitramza861 3 жыл бұрын
Probably one of your best and most educational videos to date. Thank you, Paul.
@Spicoli1Bilek
@Spicoli1Bilek 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin has stopped suggesting Paul's videos to me and I have been subscribed for several years now
@murphymmc
@murphymmc 3 жыл бұрын
Dang Paul, I've had a suspicion about the "benefits" of the 3" and the 3-1/2" over the 2-3/4" for years. I always seemed to do as well or better than my friends who insisted that bigger is better. On this particular issue, I win. Thanks for another great video.
@vidard9863
@vidard9863 3 жыл бұрын
Depends how bad a shot they actually are. Those are clearly larger patterns.
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 3 жыл бұрын
But did you win? Well... you be the judge. Oh. Wait. You... already did that.
@fruitfarmfords8243
@fruitfarmfords8243 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, i always outshot the "hardcore duck hunters" that had $1300.00 3.5" shotguns, with my trusty old Mossberg 500 with 3" shells. Birds would pass at too great a distance, all the high dollar camo guns with high dollar shells let loose a barrage of ineffective fire, when some birds circled back for a second pass, closer this time, the ol blued steel and wood 500 would almost always make me proud.
@regularfather4708
@regularfather4708 3 жыл бұрын
If Paul Harrell has taught me one thing, it's that fancy hypermagnumplusplusPPP ammo is generally little better than remington green and white box.
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot 3 жыл бұрын
It's certainly good to see a demonstration of the changes in patterning for different length shells for these particular gun+ammunition combinations, my guess is that it is generalizable. I suspect the variation observed is down to modern shotguns being optimised for the shorter shells. It would be interesting to experiment with different chokes and flight control wads to find an optimum setup for longer shells.
@jpk9171jpk
@jpk9171jpk 3 жыл бұрын
you'll also get an extra shell in the gun with a 2 3/4 typically. i'd like to see a 10ga vs 12ga video
@jesusisalive3227
@jesusisalive3227 3 жыл бұрын
Only allowed 3 shells no matter what if your hunting waterfowl.
@onpsxmember
@onpsxmember 3 жыл бұрын
@@jesusisalive3227 Why do you think everything is based on hunting waterfowl from LH556's comment? It's about the shell size and it's not all bird shot, that was just used cause other ammo was unavailable.
@jesusisalive3227
@jesusisalive3227 3 жыл бұрын
@@onpsxmember Thats why I said......IF...... you are waterfowl hunting!
@kirkleeser8460
@kirkleeser8460 3 жыл бұрын
I too would like 10gauge vs 12 gauge
@onpsxmember
@onpsxmember 3 жыл бұрын
@@kirkleeser8460 Thx for watching the shoulder killer video.
@jalan8171
@jalan8171 3 жыл бұрын
This presentation is very informative for those of us that are not smooth bore shooters. Good to know that of the many variables with using shotguns (aside from skill), choke selection and test patterning specific ammo combinations are keys to hunting success. Clearly demonstrates why deer hunting without the slug option using a shotgun is so challenging. Yes there are regions across the country that still forbid hunting deer with rifles or shotgun slugs. As to why this is so... Wildlife control officers still kind of shrug shoulders when I've asked them, except to say, " Those are the rules I didn't write. "
@timothyjacques1360
@timothyjacques1360 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Love the quick cuts straight to the critical information and love the flawless reloads.
@DullPoints
@DullPoints 3 жыл бұрын
It's gonna be a good week, fellas. Hope you're doing well, Paul.
@garyevans3421
@garyevans3421 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad it was your shoulder taking those 3and a 1/2 loads instead of mine. Years ago I bought a Remington 870 Super Mag with a synthetic stock. I shot one of those shells and it hit my cheekbone harder than any rifle I have and I have a 458 Lott among others. I immediately sold that shotgun as I didn’t want one capable of taking that length of shell again!
@johnshields9110
@johnshields9110 3 жыл бұрын
I purchased a Mossberg pump when the 3 1/2 in shells came out. Took a few geese and a couple of turkey. It was brutal patterning the gun; it kicks harder than a 458 as you noted. It's still in the back of a closet where it has set unused for 25 years.
@moosemaimer
@moosemaimer 3 жыл бұрын
I put a polymer folding stock on a Mossberg 500 Persuader and running slugs is like being in a fistfight. Still prefer that to the possibility of dealing with antlers, claws, or fangs.
@kirkmooneyham
@kirkmooneyham 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnshields9110, buy a replacement laminate stock from Boyds. They are well-made and usually require very little work to install them other than using common hand tools. The laminate adds a little weight that will help mitigate the recoil.
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnshields9110 pretty sad reading these boyish comments.
@j.t.4072
@j.t.4072 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Paul. Thank you for working hard to answer our questions and be informative. You managed to be entertaining, as always.
@lonestarprepper0156
@lonestarprepper0156 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for crunching all those numbers and letting us see patterns. Very useful info.
@SnazzyZubloids
@SnazzyZubloids 3 жыл бұрын
Oooooh! It's Paul! Paul, I gave you direct orders to notify me when you're back in Missouri. These Hirtenberger Buscadero Ticondas aren't going to shoot themselves. lol
@fruitfarmfords8243
@fruitfarmfords8243 3 жыл бұрын
Dont shoot the tiiicooondaaas!
@BeeRock32123
@BeeRock32123 3 жыл бұрын
every gun, choke, and shell will pattern differently. absolutely have to pattern your setup to figure out what works for your needs. great video as always paul!
@NoWr2Run
@NoWr2Run 3 жыл бұрын
YES SIR, Just like a rifle.
@jongecsek5085
@jongecsek5085 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for going through this Paul. It was informative!
@mrmiked6577
@mrmiked6577 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome video! This answered pretty much every question I was seeking with respect to size, velocity, patterning, etc. Thanks!
@roykiefer7713
@roykiefer7713 3 жыл бұрын
Paul, THANK YOU, this was (imho) one of your very best videos ever, particularly because it really educated me on a subject I have had some uncertainties about and because your methodology was insightful and (I’d suggest) entirely valid. My “go to” shotgun is an 870 that chambers all three shell lengths, but invariably is use 2.75 inch shells. Over a good many years, I have found that they unfailing do their job . . . if I do mine. Further, as I’ve gotten older (now in my mid-70’s) I sometimes find the “longer than standard” shells are a little more difficult for me in the days after shooting. So - and I recognize this is a sample size of one - I’ll probably continuing using 2.75 inch shells, and especially for home defense: (1) those 2.75 inch 00 Buck loads are absolutely proven and (2) the extra pellets that go downrange are also extra potential liability . . . and (imho) that is an IMPORTANT consideration. Thanks again, this was a terrific video.
@LeeThule
@LeeThule 3 жыл бұрын
I always love Paul's shotgun content.
@Aj4youtube
@Aj4youtube 3 жыл бұрын
You're the man, Paul. Enjoy these videos, they're very informative to newbies like me.
@jasonneugebauer5310
@jasonneugebauer5310 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always, keep up the great work.
@nigeltheoutlaw
@nigeltheoutlaw 3 жыл бұрын
Oh shit nice I wanted something to vibe to while I drank and ate prierogies
@ModernArcher262
@ModernArcher262 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@XxMrBossxX29
@XxMrBossxX29 3 жыл бұрын
Mmm potato pasta time
@mrbushwookie6051
@mrbushwookie6051 3 жыл бұрын
Mood
@FishFind3000
@FishFind3000 3 жыл бұрын
Potato pierogis with bits of chopped up bacon are the best. That and meat.
@johnt890
@johnt890 3 жыл бұрын
Dang. Gotta go buy some pierogies tomorrow.
@Mirokuofnite
@Mirokuofnite 3 жыл бұрын
Just about to lights out (830pm) but I'll stay up a little while longer for this.
@coastghost1649
@coastghost1649 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel and didn't realized I'd missed watching this comparison!
@alangastler9187
@alangastler9187 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul for taking the time to put all this together
@69CamaroSS
@69CamaroSS 3 жыл бұрын
FWIW: Upon doing research into the 3-1/2” 12ga beast, I read that this shell was developed in response to the prolific banning of the use of lead shot in shotguns. Steel and other less dense shot suffers more ballistic loss (energy/power) at distances of ~40-50yds. As an attempt to mitigate this problem, the 3-1/2” 12ga shell was introduced to “mimic the ballistics of the 10ga”....giving the shot a greater INITIAL velocity to hopefully compensate for less power down range. That being said.....I fired one 3-1/2” Heavi shell out of my Beretta to pattern it........ *ONE!!!* That was *BY FAR* the hardest recoil that I’ve *EVER* experienced and I can promise you that I ever *WILL* experience......🖕🖕🖕🖕 You guys can HAVE those damn things!!!! ✌️👋
@opscontaylor8195
@opscontaylor8195 3 жыл бұрын
12-gauge 3.5 shells: For when you hate "that general direction" and your shoulder all at the same time, accept no substitutes! Gods, can you imagine if someone loaded one of those with a foster slug...
@flightlesschicken7769
@flightlesschicken7769 3 жыл бұрын
@@opscontaylor8195 some company loads onea with a sabot slug, 600 grains. It has about 5000 ftlbs of energy, placing it in the elephant rifle category. Granted, at the lower end. My guess is that the slug isn't hard enough to be used on elephant effectively, as you need a hard projectile that won't shatter
@opscontaylor8195
@opscontaylor8195 3 жыл бұрын
@@flightlesschicken7769 Yeah, I never want to shoot that, or have a need to shoot that. Ever.
@flightlesschicken7769
@flightlesschicken7769 3 жыл бұрын
@@opscontaylor8195 I sort of want to shoot one of the slugs. Just to say I did
@richavic4520
@richavic4520 3 жыл бұрын
Said the guy who went .060 over. From the guy who went .030 over.
@pharmernorm
@pharmernorm 3 жыл бұрын
New underwear required for Paul's chronograph.
@shane99ca
@shane99ca 3 жыл бұрын
This guy's got the patience of Job. Somewhat dry and clinical in presentation but very thorough and informative. Exactly what you want from a researcher.
@NDSTraveller
@NDSTraveller 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting Paul. As always, appreciate your time.
@sonnygunz9207
@sonnygunz9207 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always used 2.75” 12ga. for anything I’ve needed a shotgun for. Most of my old 870’s, 1100 & Winchester’s (97 & 12) aren’t 3” guns. Only my Mossbergs, one 870 and Winchester 1300 are 3” but I never shoot 3” through them. 2.75” has worked for everything I’ve needed a shotgun for.
@boomerisadog3899
@boomerisadog3899 3 жыл бұрын
Do you like your 1300? It's currently my only 12 gauge and I was thinking about buying an extended magazine tube for it so it could pull home defense duty. Right now, it stays in the safe and I keep a couple handguns and an ar out for home defense.
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 3 жыл бұрын
Imo that 1300 makes a great slug gun. Didn't they make a 1300 deer Slayer model years ago?
@scooterdogg7580
@scooterdogg7580 3 жыл бұрын
3" or 3.5" are handy for goose im told but not necessary , 2.75 worked fine for me as well :)
@sinisterthoughts2896
@sinisterthoughts2896 3 жыл бұрын
@@boomerisadog3899 i love my 1300 defender, long mag and 20 barrel. I just love the speed cycle system, nothing cycles like them.
@sonnygunz9207
@sonnygunz9207 3 жыл бұрын
@@boomerisadog3899 The 1300 is an excellent shotgun. I would like to have a couple more.
@3928damian
@3928damian 3 жыл бұрын
After all that 3.5" shooting, I'm glad to see you admit to the padded shoulder... My go-to turkey loads are a 3.5" #4 (heavi-shot), and I'm only good for 2 rounds when patterning... They *do* pack a wallop!
@keepermovin5906
@keepermovin5906 3 жыл бұрын
One of the great things about a hunting jacket. Well that and of course those pockets.
@cayman9873
@cayman9873 3 жыл бұрын
Pattern at 50 yards was way better than I expected. Thanks for the data paul.
@MarlHellbringer
@MarlHellbringer 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really informative comparison. Thanks Paul!!
@VTPSTTU
@VTPSTTU 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I've not thought of shooting the 3" or 3.5" shells because I'm mostly thinking of self-defense these days. I could see some advantage to putting more 00 buck pellets downrange if I were facing a mob of attackers at a distance. A year ago, I would never have thought that scenario possible. I still see the likelihood as very low. I keep myself isolated in the country, but the information doesn't seem as useless as it once did. I don't expect to shoot skeet again or shoot birds, but this would be worth knowing if I could get into those activities.
@punk303
@punk303 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the title, and the first thing I thought to myself is "I feel bad for Paul." This one couldn't have been fun to make. I guess ill find out in about 18 minutes and 34 seconds if his shoulder is still intact. I have fired some 3.50 turkey tungsten loads.... NOPE I would rather shoot a 416 Rigby again
@WoodsDog
@WoodsDog 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting my whole life for this!
@TheOutlawHatfield
@TheOutlawHatfield 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video Paul.. Keep them coming
@mitchelloates9406
@mitchelloates9406 3 жыл бұрын
There are only TWO times that you can definitely say that one length of shell is better than another - One, when that's the only length your ammo supplier has in stock - and two, when that's all that you have in your ammo bag - or to paraphrase what a wise man once said, the ammo you have, is always better than the ammo you don't.
@oneLEADFOOT
@oneLEADFOOT 3 жыл бұрын
Paul wouldn't forget about his water damaged laptop at the repair shop.
@2ndarymotion
@2ndarymotion 3 жыл бұрын
Paul would never have a water damaged laptop.
@GrubbyPaddler
@GrubbyPaddler 3 жыл бұрын
2ndarymotion it would be damaged by orange soda beverages
@giddy6196
@giddy6196 3 жыл бұрын
lol love it.
@MachineNun
@MachineNun 3 жыл бұрын
After watching Paul's Miami/Dade analysis I'm pretty convinced he doesn't believe in rain.
@earthman4222
@earthman4222 3 жыл бұрын
Oh god!!! Most people won't get it. Good job.
@jonathangardner6868
@jonathangardner6868 3 жыл бұрын
I love dawn of time explanations and redundant demonstrations! Always informative and fun!
@alexduke5402
@alexduke5402 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for helping out with the recording frank! We appreciate your camera work!
@crankysports
@crankysports 3 жыл бұрын
I wish Paul read me bedtime stories as a kid. Everything is interesting when he describes it.
@tedsheldon11
@tedsheldon11 3 жыл бұрын
"redundant demonstration" translation "gonna be a good video!"
@tedsheldon11
@tedsheldon11 3 жыл бұрын
not dissappointed!
@octopussmasher2694
@octopussmasher2694 3 жыл бұрын
I watch these videos to chill out. And also because guns are cool and learning is fun.
@Gunny-nq1pb
@Gunny-nq1pb 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make this vid, it's interesting.
@flightparamedic505
@flightparamedic505 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks Paul !
@LessThanProfessionalGaming
@LessThanProfessionalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Missouri. We just carry a stick out in front of us for the spiders
@maeus8220
@maeus8220 3 жыл бұрын
I live in South Carolina and it's honestly the same.
@Valscorn01
@Valscorn01 3 жыл бұрын
Missouri here too, Its wolf spider mating season and the fuckers are everywhere. I'm considering trading a gun for a flamethrower.
@TRIIGGAVELLI
@TRIIGGAVELLI 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Illinois and have crippling arachnophobia. That's all.
@maeus8220
@maeus8220 3 жыл бұрын
@@TRIIGGAVELLI I feel your pain. I was an arachnophobe too, but now I can tolerate all but the big spiders.
@TRIIGGAVELLI
@TRIIGGAVELLI 3 жыл бұрын
@@maeus8220 I dunno what it is, snakes, rats, roaches, other big ass insects..nothing. Even scorpions I'm fine with lol just not spiders and the bigger and furrier the more I lose my mind.
@jasonhunt19201
@jasonhunt19201 3 жыл бұрын
every time I watch one of his videos, I learn that many of the things I just assume about guns or things I have heard are just wrong. Good thing I like learning
@Swampytheroot
@Swampytheroot 3 жыл бұрын
Good info! Thank you again! Side note: I visited several sporting goods and gun shops today. I posted on FB asking why Federal Premium turkey loads were $11 a shell for 3.5". Got a 30 day ban. "Violates community standards for regulated items." I look back. I didn't post a photo of the ammo, just a check-in and a question. 20% of all of the photos I post are of ammunition. But me asking about the cost of ammunition got me banned
@DANO-4899
@DANO-4899 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently, the "algorithm" is not a fan of the 2nd Amendment. Or the 1st, come to think of it. 🤖🔫
@Valscorn01
@Valscorn01 3 жыл бұрын
When I have a bad day at work, and then I come home and Paul Harrell has posted a video. My day isn't so bad anymore. As a missourian, yes paul theres lots of spiders, its wolf spider mating season in October. (please let me shoot with you) I can pay money.
@toddwebb7521
@toddwebb7521 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen enough difference between regular 2&3/4" and magnum 3" to feel the need to buy an extra gun dedicated to 3&1/2" super mags. It would appear this demonstration shows the same.
@johnshepherd9676
@johnshepherd9676 3 жыл бұрын
My SX4 is chambered for 3.5" but I never had any intention to use them. I have been buying a lot of 3" because that's what is available.
@jcraigshelton
@jcraigshelton 3 жыл бұрын
The 3.5 always seemed kinda gimmicky to me. With current 2 3/4 ammo today as good as it is, it seems pretty obsolete.
@pagamenews
@pagamenews 3 жыл бұрын
I own a Remington 870 with a polymer stock chambered for the 3.5 inch mag. That gun sits in my gun safe collecting dust because the recoil is just overwhelming. I watched Paul shooting in this video and I am impressed. I personally can't fire more than five of the 3.5 inch loads before it becomes too painful.
@MrHav1k
@MrHav1k 3 жыл бұрын
My Sunday night got a whole lot better!!
@dontneedtoknow5836
@dontneedtoknow5836 3 жыл бұрын
Everything is always better when there is a Paul video.
@Fryeballz
@Fryeballz 3 жыл бұрын
Another very informative video! Great work!
@charlieinthebox9167
@charlieinthebox9167 3 жыл бұрын
Paul, I want to thank you for teaching me a really valuable technique for running a pump shotgun. I really have been practicing on taking the pause between breaking the shot and cycling the action out. Very helpful, sir. Thanks
@connergarlock771
@connergarlock771 3 жыл бұрын
Paul, you should make a channel just based on anecdotes and life stories. I'd certainly subscribe.
@ab5olut3zero95
@ab5olut3zero95 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed and seconded. I’m always happy for the long-winded talking sections and the Shatner-esque.. pauses.
@danielrodgers6983
@danielrodgers6983 3 жыл бұрын
That would be great a wisdom and advice channel.
@Spike-13
@Spike-13 3 жыл бұрын
15:08 you can hear him say "cut" *Edited for spelling*
@neogeo8267
@neogeo8267 3 жыл бұрын
'cut, print'
@DoyleFuckinHargraves
@DoyleFuckinHargraves 3 жыл бұрын
And print!
@Spike-13
@Spike-13 3 жыл бұрын
@@DoyleFuckinHargraves you're right!
@kendric98
@kendric98 3 жыл бұрын
That and the wrong jacket indicates paul was replaced by aliens.
@Spike-13
@Spike-13 3 жыл бұрын
@@kendric98 he's a superior specimen of the human species and was abducted for testing
@albertforletta1498
@albertforletta1498 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely useful information! Many thank yous for posting this video.
@dburton271
@dburton271 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, you are REALLY good at explaining all this!! Keep up the Fantastic Job!!
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