Concealed Carry: Non-Hollow Point Ammo in Your Carry Handgun

[@harperhellems3648]

Now that Paul is gone I''m re-watching these older videos and really paying attention and learning from him. RIP. Thank you, Paul.

[@CurtHowland]

Memento Mori. Time takes us all.

[@heavycoughin6665]

Paul lives on through these videos and the knowledge he's given us.

[@renodelmoro8781]

Same here! Have been watching a lot of them over and over. I’m just picking up a little bit more info each time.

[@Chris_Toney]

January 2024 and I'm watching the subscriber numbers climbing above 900k. All to honor Paul Harrell who has given us so much entertainment and education. Thank you sir!

[@leadfoot323]

I would totally buy a sweatshirt that said, "High Tech Fleece Bullet Stop."

[@cjmvejby]

YES! Me too!!

[@RockIslandAuctionCompany]

@@cjmvejby I second this. People might get the wrong idea from "Meat Target."

[@blairbuskirk5460]

With a strategically placed pouches for a chest and back plate on the inside, just for kicks.

[@cjr4286]

I could never tell if it was "fleece" or "police."

[@BamaShinesDistillery]

Ditto

[@Militaryarmschannel]

What blew me away in my testing of the Xtreme Defenders was that no matter what I put in front of that bullet; sheet metal, rigs, clothing, wood, drywall, and even Level 2 body armor it consistently penetrated all the above and 12"-18" of ballistics gel. Yes, even Level 2 body armor. If ever there were a "magic bullet", this would be as close as we've come.

[@blairbuskirk5460]

Might have something to do with the fluted leading edge and the sectional density of the projectile. But this is purely conjecture.

[@mikefranklin1253]

If you have no concern about over penetration.

[@denisdegamon8224]

The reason it c was n penetrate levrl two body armor is due to the extreme velocity of that solid light weight bullet. Tests done on 9mm FMJ at velocities over 1400 fps will evrn penetrate level 3A armor.....stated right on military vests.

[@johndoe3210]

Same here. I carry the 120 gr 45 Super load.

[@BeReal918]

I carry 90g Extreme Defender 9mm at 1400fps. Also rotate round with 50g Civil Defense and a fmj after 6 rounds.

[@rickc680]

I was at my local gun range the other day and my daughter called me and I said I am out on the range so please bear with the gunfire. I am watching too much Paul Harrell. Lol

[@Dave-Shearer]

No such thing as "too much Paul Harrell"

[@rickc680]

@@Dave-Shearer 👍

[@BuddyLee23]

Some say that even when off the range, Paul is followed by an aura of distant, echoing gunfire...

[@mikeh4524]

My son thinks I feed him orange lung tissue.

[@MikhaelAhava]

Lol.

[@kenwilliams8179]

I wish I had started watching Paul long ago. I have been around hunting and target shooting since I was 6 years old(I am 56 now) and I still always learn something from Paul in every video. Praying for you brother🙏

[@harperhellems3648]

He's still here with us.

[@heavycoughin6665]

Even though Paul has passed he's still here helping us every day. Thank you for everything you've done Paul. Rip

[@Mrjohnnymoo1]

I clicked faster than Paul Harrell can do a crouching draw with a .38 special in a plad blazer.

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

That's pretty damn fast man.

[@somebloke3869]

But can you double click and keyhole the target?

[@supercarnitas]

IT’S PLAID

[@somebloke3869]

@@supercarnitas I didn't even notice the typo. Funny how the mind can read better than the eye.

[@KoshN]

@@supercarnitas 😂

[@ETFRoss]

"I fired five rounds but I dropped one" I like that honesty

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself...

[@joeyoung4121]

Well PUNK, Did I fire five or 4, DO You feel LUCKY? WELL DO YA! 😆

[@exothermal.sprocket]

A man's gotta know his limitations.

[@hectorvazquez4528]

He ment he dropped the projectile on the ground. He made all 5 shots.

[@2wheeleddemon999]

@@hectorvazquez4528 we all got that part dude.

[@PC-uh6hk]

Hey Paul, you don't need to apologize for the way you speak. Some of us need those "Shatner" like pauses so our brains can catch up with all the great info you have.

[@20TIL6]

Paul Harrell's KZbin channel is the only gun channel I watch while wearing ear and eye protection.

[@patmancrowley8509]

Paul, it amazes me that these jurisdictions that don't allow hollow-point ammunition are so UNINFORMED. Time and time again I see Full Metal Jacket (FMJ) ammunition go clear through long ballistic gel blocks where hollow-point ammunition does not. Clearly FJM poses the greatest danger to those in the immediate and intermediate area of a shooting incident. It amazes me that these local jurisdictions are more concerned with the life of the perpetrator than they are with the lives of the innocent by-standers. And thanks for another very interesting and informative article. Peace, love and happiness to you, your family and crew.

[@johnwidell8092]

When Paul talks about the meat target, he reminds me of my waiter at a restaurant describing the daily special.

[@mazzenashoor966]

We seriously need some t-shirts. I vote for: "You Be The Judge"

[@LMSILVIA]

"Not bad at all..."

[@mazzenashoor966]

1. "That's A LOT MORE" 2. "Just as powerful!" 3. "What-if Brigade"

[@karlhoegle346]

"Please bear with gunfire that you may hear in the background" would be my choice!

[@jasonantes9500]

I have a vinyl heat press...pretty easy to make T's with whatever I want since I also I have a vinyl cutter. Heck, I can make window stickers too.

[@CM-ve1bz]

Karl Hoegle That's a South Chicago tee shirt if there ever was one.

[@mcallahan9060]

As if you thought Friday couldn't get any better... then Paul drops 8 minutes of wisdom on you. Thumbs up!

[@Chief2Moon]

Juan C Salinas He's just a nerd, not "what you'd call an expert" ....so his opinion doesn't matter

[@Normal1855]

It's a Friday, that I'm watching this video, in 2021. New Years eve.

[@TangoPapaWhiskey]

I honestly started liking your videos because you found a way to bring the word "shire" into a gun video. Respect.

[@--P.R.--]

BTW, if you have captions on, every time Paul shoots the captions read "applause." Just a fun fact.

[@adameverett1943]

Sometimes it will show up as "music" I love it

[@matthewphenix7952]

It also refers to it as the “me target” at least once.

[@davidmann2988]

That’s funny.

[@captainxorro8553]

Should I not be clapping, then?

[@phil20_20]

I'm so disappointed. 😫

[@loboel264mag7]

The wise man has spoke again. Best video that I have seen of Paul in awhile. He is back doing what he does well.

[@garyweber8201]

If I see a new Paul Harrell video, I stop whatever I'm doing and watch it. Every time...

[@TrevorEmahizer]

I was waiting for Paul's response to his statement: "So for those of you who live in ammo restrictive jurisdictions, don't despair... U-haul will rent a moving truck in there as well."

[@iboopedyournose]

Wow that shot starting from 6:34 is just gorgeous. The light and the trees... makes one just want to go out and camp for a weekend 😅

[@d.mangham5204]

You'll have to bear with the gunfire.

[@rhabdob3895]

“The only damage is 9mm holes in our meat target.” That lucky bastard. He won’t even miss a day of work.

[@TheLyingFigure]

Mondays am i right?

[@mothman-jz8ug]

You really believe that???

[@md_vandenberg]

@@mothman-jz8ug It's a joke, you fucking yutz.

[@galenmarek8287]

Lying Figure the office?

[@GetMeThere1]

Excellent video. I'm delighted that the xtreme defense "phillips head" bullets made a good showing on the meat target, that's in line with the good showings they seem to make on gel. I use these rounds for carry, and I'm glad they passed the meat test.

[@chrisjones6002]

I agree, they seem to be a good choice for sure. I carry them in my 380 because they penetrate well, not as much as FMJ would which is a good thing, and they cause more damage than FMJ. They are one of very few 380 loads that stay within 12-18" in gel and do some damage.

[@robbrown5702]

I will echo that reply as I too use these in my EDC

[@kftc1980]

Question is can you afford to fire enough of them to know they are reliable in your gun and know where they will hit? That’s the issue with “hyper” ammo. This is why I like HST in boxes of 50 that don’t break the bank.

[@chrisjones6002]

I've shot enough in the couple of guns I carry it in to feel comfortable with my choice. For smaller calibers like 380 and 32 I think its worth the extra money to have the best self defense ammo I think is out there. For my other carry guns, mostly 9mm and a couple 38s I favor Gold Dots but HSTs are a good choice too.

[@GetMeThere1]

@@kftc1980 I hear what you're saying. But the fact is that they're not THAT much more expensive than really good, bonded hollow points. I've shot a LOT of them (in 380, 9x19, 357 SIG, 40 S&W, 10mm, and 9x25 Dillon), and I've never had a single problem in (obviously) a variety of pistols.

[@clukinvar]

Thanks for making the non hollow point ammo in your carry gun video.

[@runlevelone]

Paul Harrell + Friday = good start to the weekend

[@incorrigiblerogue1193]

Am I the only one who clicks like as soon as the page comes up?

[@davidcurr6221]

No you are not!

[@seep7397]

Yes

[@freddiecongo2400]

Nope

[@bertg.6056]

Be careful, Google might be able to track that and cancel it. I wouldn't trust them.

[@usergonemad]

So glad to FINALLY see meat target performance of those Underwood rounds. Have seen about a trillion jello videos but none where we could see something truly useful. Those appeared to do better than some hollow points, which is a surprise to me. Thank you Mr. Harrell.

[@jhalscott]

Best firearms videos on the Internet.

[@MikkellTheImmortal]

Another great video. People need to remember that the knowledge of the laws is our responsibility and not that of anyone else. It is the individual who wishes to use the device, or in this case the ammo, that must make sure that they are not breaking the law and not to rely on others.

[@MitchC357]

I was always told to use the phrase controlled expansion rounds rather than hollow point when I was a police officer. Sounds better. Thanks for your great reviews. Always unbiased and scientific.

[@filianablanxart8305]

Back in the '70s , into early '80s , Hollow Points for police were a hot political issue . The usual suspects were screaming about Hollow Points and/ or Magnums were Capital E Evil . They would execute and or tear limbs off of poor innocent people on their way to bible study , while about to turn their lives around , particularly minorities . Hence terms like " controled expansion ammo " , or simply " duty ammo " . Also a factor in many departments issueing .38 +P and +P+ ammo for used in .357 guns . ( Heck , +P+ was invented to give reasonably close to .357 performance , without the word Magnum being used .)

[@MitchC357]

@@filianablanxart8305 yeah we carried 125 gr JHP +P

[@armandpiche3614]

thanx paul. it all comes down to learning to think for yourself.there's lots of variables that's food for thought .and in the pinch,action always wins over hesitation,whether you shoot a 380 or a 10 mm.or larger.we have to be the judges.you have really made good shooters better.

[@cliftonwhittaker260]

Good information, Paul. I recently bought my first 9mm EDC. I've always carried a 5 shot .44 Spcl loaded with handloads and 215 gr lead SWC. My confidence level was high with accuracy and stopping power. Wasn't pleased with having to go with a small bore handgun for defense but I guess I'm at that age now. Anyway, I was glad to see this video since I am carrying FMJ. Haven't invested in a megabucks box of defensive ammo yet, but at least I can hit my target with the FMJ well enough to eat the center out of the bullseye at 15 yd.

[@Dang_Near_Fed_Up]

Excellent informative video as always, Thanks Paul. One not so quick note here for anyone who is interested. Always make sure your intended ammo will work in each specific pistol you plan to use it in. Never assume "It worked fine in my other pistol" means it will work in all your pistols. Or any other firearm for that matter. Case in point: I just bought a Springfield Armory XDs .45 mod 2. For this story the Glock G41 Gen 4 is the Glock in question. I use Walmart's bargain basement Federal "Champion" 320 grain FMJ aluminum case ammo in my Glock, without issue. I expected to use it in my XDs without issue as well, but to my amazement the Federal ammo dropped nearly a foot and a half in 30 feet when fired from the XDs. Yes I said a foot and a half, 18 inches drop in 30 feet. I honestly thought something was broken in the new gun, but the gun is actually fine. I switched to Fiocchi then fired my 5 test rounds, and hit approximately 2 inches low at 30 feet. Using Magtech I put 2 of the 5 test rounds fired into the bullseye. I am still experimenting. Other ammunition brands and types will follow, but I will not bore you all with that. This is a true apples to apples comparison between ammunition, but in two very different guns. All the rounds fired were 230 grain FMJ round nosed ball ammunition, no weight differences, no projectile shape differences, etc. as I said apples to apples. With very startling different results. I am not bad mouthing any manufacturer here, just the opposite, it is entirely the guns that make the difference. My Glock put 7 out of 13 in the bullseye and a 4" grouping at 30 feet with the same Federal ammo as proof of this not being bad ammo. The point of this story is to underscore that you must always test your actual pistol, with the actual ammunition you intend to use. If you want to know you are good to go, when you have to be, test with your actual exact combination or you may find you have a real problem at the worst possible time. Any way if you read all that, I wish you well and I hope the story is helpful. Thanks again Paul for all the hard work, it is appreciated.

[@jwash3rd]

That's odd, you should contact Springfield about that. I had/have the XDS .45 in both the 3.3 and 4.0 and both of them were/are equally accurate with all of the ammo that I've used.

[@Sandhill1988]

Paul thanks for another straight to the point common sense useful and yet entertaining video. You are by far the authority on these matters on KZbin and I'm sure far beyond.

[@ponthis1]

That was really surprising. I would have assumed the results would have been exactly opposite. Thank You Paul. I do love some practical proof and undeniable facts.

[@jamiesloan5902]

Larry Thompson Opposite? Why?????

[@ponthis1]

@@jamiesloan5902 I using years of preconceived ideas about bullet shape and penetration, felt that the exposed core would expand the most... the bullet made of a solid metal with a shaped tip would penetrate like a AP round.

[@jamiesloan5902]

Oh I gotcha.

I'm a fan of the Underwood Xtreme Defender and Hunter lines.

[@d.mangham5204]

I had to sit down when Paul gave the thumbs-up to that "hyper ammo." Kind of a shock to the system.

[@1954cs]

"Honey, where are the pork chops I had thawing out in the refrigerator?"

[@norton750cc]

Just tenderising them dear!

[@Clint52279]

"Bullet holes! No, no, no, those are 'speed holes', makes it cook faster!"

[@psychochicken9535]

"Uh, the dog ate 'em."

[@jasonswiatkowski9127]

I do wonder what Paul does with used meat? Dog food?

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@jasonswiatkowski9127 he has two 100+lb dogs. They (obviously) eat pretty well!

[@gangsta-F22]

Its not a Harrell video without the rain love the commitment 👏

[@tarrantcountykid]

Fine print on Paul Harrel’s invitation to his Barbecue Picnic reads: “Meat may contain lead”

[@trackpackgt877]

That underwood xtreme defender is awesome!

[@SmokeDogNY420]

With all the comment battles on whether the infamous phillips head screwdriver bullets are what they purport to be, this was one of the tests I've been looking forward to the most. Good vid.

[@augiegray6239]

Thanks Paul, great info as expected from you. This one was especially good to see: It validated test results which used of my own version of your meat target. I used your method to test the Underwood Extreme Defender in both 9x19 and 380 ACP. Based on the success of my tests I have been carrying this ammo for the past year. Your test gives me even more confidence in my choice of carry ammo (that included very good results even when fired from my smallest carry gun, a Ruger LCP). I also tested point of impact in my two usual carry guns and they were pretty much true to my point of aim, as they were with my old Federal HST HP rounds (7 and 15 yard distances). I was very pleased with that. Recoil seems softer with the lighter Underwood rounds even though they have much higher velocities. The meat target tells a more, real world story than ballistic gel. You designed an excellent testing media!! Tony

[@one-of-us9939]

No one reccomend you... but I am so glad I found you.

[@WhoWouldWantThisName]

Welcome to our secret little club.

[@marp00n]

Welcome to our secret little club.

[@cew142]

Thank you for all your videos! I commend your dedication to all of us by standing out in the rain making the video.

[@GaveMeGrace1]

Thank you- that was great! Extra lesson: When you can’t use what you really want to defend yourself with, a good Phillips head might just get the job done.

[@shawnr771]

Use one of those new metal straws. Blood drain port.

[@buckturgidson1448]

Hamlet Fortinbras Only if you can stab at 1,200 feet per second.

[@grahamlopez6202]

@@buckturgidson1448 idk. I think if somebody came around the corner in my apartment and I stuck a screwdriver in their ear real hard, theyd probably not be much of an issue

[@buckturgidson1448]

Graham Lopez Lol, yes I’m sure that would activate the OFF switch!

[@GaveMeGrace1]

@willis white - I was thinking of something closer to 1550 FPS at the muzzle (did Paul use the chronograph this episode?).

[@caledouglas8117]

This guy always has something fun in those pockets

[@kajetandziebaj6405]

I love how he just doesn't register weather and sticks with the programme :D

[@alexmangogna1855]

That's how you know he's been in field....i noticed after a few years of hunt outfitting and dogsledding I had become essentially immune to weather lol

[@ScottKenny1978]

He lives in Oregon. It doesn't take long before you ignore any rain less than "monsoon".

[@j.r.777]

The Underwood Xtreme Defender, is the best ammo made out of any type of ammo. I have lots of Federal Premium HST rounds, Speer Gold Dot rounds, and Hornady Critical Duty rounds. Carried and trained with that ammo for a very long time. And then, I came across the 2016/2017 joint agency ballistics test. Multiple calibers, barrel lengths and test mediums were used. The Lehigh Defense/Underwood Xtreme Defender was the only bullet to score perfectly in every caliber, in every barrel length, in every test medium, and with every agency. And in ballistics gel and animal cadavers, the primary wound channel was larger than any other primary wound channel with fully expanded hollow points or even any other ammo.

[@SierraBravo347]

I live in Texas, Republic of.....and can carry pretty much ANY ammo. I once bought .357 magnum Black Talons at a garage sale.....from a sheriff's deputy.....right in the middle of the controversy surrounding them. God Bless FREEDOM! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍

[@SierraBravo347]

@Anthony Swiss Lol! I know! I never understood what the ruckus was about anyway, level 2 body armor is only effective if you dont take one to the dome, or if it's not a rifle. 👍

[@1978garfield]

Sadly because of the refusal to enforce the border Texas will soon turn blue and there will go your freedom.

[@SierraBravo347]

@Anthony Swiss Just like the Lefts Propaganda Program against the Scary Black Rifle! 👍

[@SierraBravo347]

@@1978garfield Not if I can help it! That's why I VOTE. I start at the Local Level, and work my way Up. 👍

[@douglasswinford2598]

Excellent advice as always ! Thanks Paul !!

[@VladSparaStoria]

i found this very useful, being a gun owner in Italy: any expanding ammo for handguns is prohibited here

[@VladSparaStoria]

@Michael Srite well, yes and no: a self-defence permit (= carry license) here is basically impossible to get, so most people use guns for home defence. Most cases of self-defence with guns go to trial for "excess of force" but usually they get absolved

[@carolyncannon7805]

Come over to the states where you have rights, brother. We need more based Europeans over here

[@DybbukHolden]

Thanks, Mr. Harrell, for using Magtech ammo in your test. It's a very common round here in Argentina.

[@henryschmidt636]

You don't see Hickok45, The Panty Marshall or those bearded tacticians making videos while their butts are sittin' in wet clothes. Long live The Harrell

[@ORflycaster]

The Stanky Marshall not only stays dry, he stays indoors.....................and just rants rather than shooting. I have no idea what's attracting his subscribers.

[@LMSILVIA]

@@ORflycaster For real... He goes out for the day a comes home frustrated that he didn't have to shoot anyone and rants lol

[@MrNexor-cj8gs]

Well, Hickok's clothes are wet from sweat sometimes...

[@thebes118]

Hickok's range is in his front yard. He can wait till it stops raining.

[@landnnut]

@@ORflycaster Its like watching a train wreck. You can't look away.

[@jasminewood395]

I like the longer presentations but this was good as always

[@trevorpeters4358]

Awe my favorite gun channel in the morning perfect way to start the day.

[@martyc1533]

Another good video, thanks. Being forced to reside in the Socialist Sanctuary State of New Jersey (Grandkids) once I retired from LE I was no longer allowed to carry hollow point ammunition (???) . The best alternatives so far have been Hornadys Critical Defense & Critical Duty ammunition as well as Federals Guard Dog. All give excellent expansion and performance. All have functioned flawlessly in 9mm, .40 and .45 in a variety of handguns.

[@michaelhallman9032]

Happy to see this comparison for 9 mm, but would really like to see something similar with mouse guns. The advice you often see with calibers like .32 ACP is to forget about hollow points and stick with FMJ. You can find results with ballistic test gelatin, but it would be nice to see how this works with the meat target. Would the damage with either kind of round be pretty much equivalent, given that you probably won't get much expansion with the hollow point rounds? I use .32 ACP as an example simply because a KelTec P32 is pretty close to invisible as a concealed carry gun.

[@dennistate5953]

When I carried .32ACP I had great results with win. Silvertips. Just a thought. You be the judge...

[@dennisingram6748]

5 stars...for Paul's videos...anytime Im bored or got extra time to kill...I watch his excellent informative vids.

[@kirsch1616]

Lehigh defense combined with Underwood is a win every time

[@keithplymale2374]

After watching your testing and others Paul I chose Hornady Critical Defense for my carry. I have been interested in those Phillips head ones. Thanks for testing those.

[@Estinus]

Huh. I figured the screwdriver head rounds were mostly just a gimmick. Neat! Always love a video with the meat target and of course the new-and-improved-high-tech-fleece-bullet-stop.

[@blairbuskirk5460]

Now I see why my local cops use them.

[@swj719]

The "channels" the shape creates probably end up pushing tissue/fluid in a way that increases hydrostatic effects, and the force of the redirected whatever probably acts as a type of brake like thirst reversers for jet engines.

[@sporkstar1911]

They are Supercavitating bullets, but theyve been nerfed to avoid piercing soft body armor like the old designs from the 70s would. Those were shaped a little like a ball point pen, and cause ALOT of internal damage. Look up "THV" ammo. I expect the real purpose of the xtreme penetrators was to use the fluid channel disruption like a set of fins on an arrow to resist yawing so the bullet pierces deeper into meat. The fins arent sharp either, so they dont help with kevlar penetration.

[@JudgeLazar]

Thanks for standing out in the rain to give us a little more knowledge.

[@michaelsorenson3887]

How do you get this early to a Paul Harrell video?? You be the judge...

[@DisemboweII]

Shatner-esque.................... *pauses*

[@GeauxRilla]

No fella you didn't

[@michaelsorenson3887]

@The Shooting Nerd yeah that's it

[@michaelsorenson3887]

@@GeauxRilla it said "uploaded 16 seconds ago" Is that enough to make a difference? Let's see what the meat target says....

[@GeauxRilla]

@@michaelsorenson3887 guess that one went over your head. Perhaps you have to much significant damage to your lung tissue to get this reference.

[@MickeyD2012]

Lots of noise on the range today. I love how you don't let it affect your delivery.

[@craigsavarese8631]

Ahhhh. Friday again. Love starting the weekend celebration with a BANG! Yeah, that is terrible... but I stand by it.

[@a.k.4363]

Looks like the UW is the winner. I buy quite a bit of their products for 10mm and 460V... never thought about their 9mm... till now. Great video.

[@WJS774]

I've seen good testing of those Underwood rounds in gel, it's nice to see they do OK in the meat target too. Also an interesting video I've seen before was Tim from MAC testing those and some regular hollowpoints through barriers. They did _really_ well in that test, seemed almost completely barrier blind.

[@colsoncustoms8994]

I'd be interested to see how that bullet concept does at really really high velocities.They have an 80 grain one for the 30 carbine and a 50 grain one for 32 acp (.311"). I bet the 80 grain pill out of 308 would be smoking (300 blackout, 300 ham'r, any .308" rifle cartridge, hell even 30-30), and the 50 grain out of an sks or ak as well. Be interesting to see if they do more damage, less, expand, break apart, etc.

[@chrisjones6002]

That bullet has been quite impressive in every test I've seen on it. It's nearly barrier blind and seems to be very consistent penetration wise.

[@BandAid350z]

@@colsoncustoms8994 Ooh. I'd love to see what those Underwoods in 300BLK would do to a meat target. I like how they're kind of fence riders in terms of FMJ and HP. What I'd really like to see is if accuracy suffers @>100m.

[@kentuckywindage222]

Those Philips head bullet's are bad mojo for what's received them 9mm, 45acp and 32 acp.! Tested them. The .32 acp. is a little bada$$ too. Test'm out, they are impressive!

[@chrisjones6002]

@@kentuckywindage222 I have the 32acp ones in my P32, I haven't seen too many tests on that caliber but I figured worst case they will be as good as FMJ. In 32acp using JHPs is a bad idea, a hot FMJ is better like Fiocchi or S&B. I'm a fan of the 32, I think it's very underrated by most people. For a pocket gun it's a nice caliber.

[@matthewblumenthal804]

Well...... You have convinced me that I'm blessed to be in a jurisdiction that allows hollow point expanding ammunition. Thanks for your effort!

[@jackrock1313]

Absolutely one of the most educational channels on KZbin by far, excellent content here 👍 👍👍 👍👍 👍👍 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸☠️🔫 ☠️🔫 ☠️

[@TrueBlindGaming]

well I recorded a firearms video last night, but now I don't know if I will edit and upload it. Paul is certainly a hard act to follow. lol...great work Paul, your knowledge inspires me

[@chrishill1286]

Interesting results with the cut off Philips head screwdriver tip. A little meat grinder it is.

[@GooseGosselin]

Interesting video, as expected, but outstanding video quality! Particularly at the 6:33 mark, well done.

[@streamylc]

"This is Paul Harrell, welcome to his shire.".... lol

[@dashcammer4322]

Harrellshire

[@bigal2696]

I knew his "shire" reference would be caught. As well as the dropped bullet explanation and the relocated table. PH subscribers are a sharp lot.

[@nunya9555]

@@bigal2696. And retard penetration. It's infantile, I know. But I still heard it

[@garviedi]

Underwood Xtreme Defender/Penetrators (actually a Lehigh bullet design loaded by Underwood Ammo) perform brilliantly in all tests I've seen. I've been carrying them for years in .380, .38+p, and .40S&W. I use the Penetrators for the .380 based on a previous review by Harrell and some other gel tests out there. Defenders for the hotter/larger loads. Great stuff!

[@phennah9mm461]

I miss the hot days of watermelon lung tissue🇺🇸🌞🔫

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Maybe the oranges are typical of a chain smoker's lungs.

[@chrischiampo7647]

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[@jeffreyleonard7210]

Never found any much wrong with a handful of orange. But melons are dandy.

[@skzion2]

This is extremely valuable as some have claimed that the Extreme Defender was designed, basically, to do well in gel tests. The meat target is very much different from gel.

[@CyanLink]

"We banned expanding ammo." Translation: "We want collateral damage so we can have an excuse to ban guns."

[@bigredone1030]

You can call them evil but you can't call them dumb.

[@CyanLink]

@@bigredone1030 Yes, the amount of data and research done on expanding ammo by law enforcement is staggering. There's no excuse for advocating against expanding ammo unless you have an ulterior motive.

[@BloobFace]

Nice right wing paranoia.

[@CyanLink]

@@BloobFace I generally hate going tinfoil hat. But there's no excuse in denying the amount of evidence that shows expanding ammo saves innocent lives.

[@bigredone1030]

shy narcissist Eww a liberal. Why are you here? Arent you and your 12 friends supposed to be at the bernie rally?

[@ForgivenMan-jl7bp]

I never thought about limits on ammunition... I've been carrying for over 10 years and have recently fell in love with critical defense rounds for my edc... Guess Im going to be talking to my local sheriffs department tomorrow. Thanks for the knowledge Paul.

[@jstenberg3192]

"But I dropped one the ground and couldnt find it." Hilarious... I love Paul!!

[@dcmtrader]

Funny how honesty is so rare it's now comedy.

[@hell_march6652]

Not sure how or why this is "Hilarious" to you. But whatever floats your boat I guess???

[@jstenberg3192]

@@hell_march6652 Ask a doctor about your lack of sense of humor. Maybe they have something for it. Peace.

[@hell_march6652]

@@jstenberg3192Yeah I will see a doctor. But only because your stupidity is hurting my brain!

[@jstenberg3192]

@@hell_march6652 Humor = stupidity. Gotcha! Careful friend... Some Democrat will red flag you for bad attitude! :)

[@crispy9175]

Why did i find myself unsubscribed from this channel?!?? Paul's channel is one of my favorite gun channels!!! Glad i found this video anyway!

[@kenhelmers2603]

Thanks Paul! I've been wondering about this :)

[@thetobaccoguy1751]

It cracks me up how at least 5-6 non typical descriptive words are in every video. Astra, nauseum, ect. Just pickin. Love the videos.

[@mrpibb7781]

I'm becoming more and more impressed with that Underwood ammo. Consistent penetration and perceived damage and no need for any concern about a hp round NOT expanding. Also looks.to.be a great choice for hp picky 1911s. I dont know why but Sig ammo nosedives on the first round regardless of how the round is chambered.

[@DeSousausmc]

mrpibb7781 and if you carry a 10mm, their xtreme defender is fast enough to punch through most armor too. Very helpful when considering that mass shooters are very often armored. Also, they're more barrier blind than hollow points so if the target is hiding behind a car or counter (and you know there are no innocents there) you can reliably blast through their concealment.

[@AlexN2022]

I'm very interested in 1911 ammo and those Underwood bullets aren't the best feeding wise. They have sharp edges and present a different bullet/ramp angle depending on how the cartridge happens to be turned in the magazine. Not to say that they don't work - they do, just not better than many others. I've had good results with Golden Sabers, they're very round for HP. Same for Gold Dots and Win T&D. But I've found magazines really have a far more profound effect on 1911 feeding than pretty much anything else.

[@jamiesloan5902]

mrpibb7781 It's not the ammo. It's the 1911. Horribly unreliable design. But, also classic, and gorgeous firearms. I wouldn't carry one for self defense. Too many guns out there that RUN.

[@mrpibb7781]

@@jamiesloan5902 we'll agree to disagree on that one but everyone's entitled to their opinion. I absolutely trust my life to a 1911. Ergos, trigger and accuracy are second to absolutely none. And I've never had a single issue with anything but Sig so seems like an easy choice to me.

[@desertfox2020]

@@jamiesloan5902 Any 1911 with a fully ramped barrel should have the same feeding reliability of any other modern handgun. I'll agree that the older style non ramped versions are more picky, but I've still never had any failures I could attribute to that when shooting hollowpoints. I carry a 1911, either an RIA .45 or a Ruger 10mm depending on the situation.

[@JimRodgers]

Interesting results as always! Another very informative Paul Harrell video. I'm a fan of Underwood Industries ammo, so I'm pleased to see this result.

[@Mossad901]

RIP Paul

[@kentwilliams4152]

Hello Paul - The Underwood Extreme Defender surely gets my vote in all handgun cartridges. Another Underwood cartridge that IMO is outstanding is their Hard Cast Full wadcutter which is loaded to ~ 1,000 FPS in most calibers.

[@cuchulain1647]

I miss him. 😢

[@1nv1c7u5m4n30]

Hot DAMN and Happy Friday Folks, cannot be much better of a Friday than when a New Paul Harrell video premiers, Greatly impressed with that Underwood ammo. Amazing performance yet it was dang near stopped dead by the T-Shirt. My opinion previously had been "Overpriced junk, why bother". I'm going to test some personally now that I've seen your presentation. Great work and as always thank you for what you do for all of us KZbin Yahoo's. As well I think all of us would be up for buying some Merch with some of your Choice sayings on them OR just a pic of the Meat Target on it.

[@jimf1964]

You know you've been watching this channel too much when all,you can think is; Ohhhhh Paul got a new jacket! 😂😂

[@Hjerte_Verke]

We're all watching and taking notes on his choice of attire. He said in the shooting jacket video that he typically wears the same thing every day which is kind of surprising but refreshing at the same time. It's plain attire too and nothing out of the ordinary that would unnecessarily draw attention to himself in public--he's consciously or unconsciously following the Gray Man philosophy...

[@robertgoodrich8953]

I live in a Free State, but I use Underwood’s version of “Phillips’s screwdriver” Lehigh defence ammunition in all my rifles and handguns. Never a single FTF or any other malfunction. It also does not change point of aim in my guns. This is a major step forwards in ammunition tech.

[@ric2008]

Agreed. I extensively (read, expensively) ran this ammunition through all my 9mm hardware and even the 45-70 govt flavor. Very pleased and carry with full confidence. No FTF, FTE after 800 + rounds of 9mm and over 200 + of 45-70.

[@darrenbishop4327]

KZbin in all it's glory will not allow me to like anymore comments on this video. If you are reading this KZbin, bite me!

[@TUKByV1]

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[@minerblue9641]

Paul, I recently bought some 158g FMJ RN Berry's plated bullets for practice rounds in a 3 inch barrel S&W model 60-4. The rested groups were coming out at about an inch to an inch and a quarter at 25 yards. Found the right load using Unique. They were moving at about 650fps to 700fps. I really liked the performance. So I figured I'd shoot them through some milk jugs filled with water and see what they would do. Most penetrated all the way through the water. I then put a 2 by 4 board in front of the jugs to simulate a breast bone. The bullet went through the board and disintegrated like a glazer safety slug. Really tore up the first jug behind the 2X4 and part of the jacket went through the second jug. Give these rounds a try if you ever get the chance. They sure made my 3" 38 Spec. snubby look like a high velocity pistol. They probably wouldn't be a reliable round for self defense but I wouldn't hesitate to use them in a defensive situation if I had a cylinder full of them. Give them a try if you ever get the chance, see what you think.

[@puuxexil]

Paul, we gotta get you a "Shotgun" microphone (pun not intended). I can bear with the gunfire in the background, but there's such a disparity between the volume levels, it's alarming my officemates! EDIT: Nevermind, the closed captions get the job done.

[@Hjerte_Verke]

No, you're right on better or more microphones being needed, like one on his lapel just for the spoken narration and retaining the one on his camera which does a phenomenal job capturing the clear, striking reports of gunfire (both his and the other range users).

[@c-jam6392]

Another great one Paul. Always look forward to your videos. In fact I often rewatch them multiple times they are so good. I’m hoping for another Halloween special this year, I remember last years was pretty fun

[@crankysports]

Hey, he's wearing a different shooting jacket!

[@whoflungdew]

I noticed that too. I'd be interested in which one that is.

[@phennah9mm461]

Yeah he said he's got a couple

[@TheWolfsnack]

laundry day....

[@RubyRedSlippers]

Fall jacket??

[@wesleygay8918]

Maybe he doesn't like getting the other one wet

[@flightparamedic505]

Great video. Thanks Paul !

[@Julian-bq9qv]

*The new "TUI" ( tumble Upon Impact" )rounds from Fort Scott might fill the bill- I would love to see their effect on the meat target!!!!*

[@robertgoodrich8953]

Paul already tested Ft Scott. It was not much improvement over FMJ. Stick with the Underwood for a defensive round!

[@nocturnalpulse6720]

For those not familiar, the Xtreme defense are a bullet type commonly known as XTP, or Extreme Terminal Performance ammunition. Some have the cross-point tip, while others resemeble JHP rounds. These rounds might experience greater restrictions in ammo-prohibitive areas as the shape of the cross-point round is the same as those known to penetrate vests.

[@acid6urns]

xtp is a specific hollow point design made and sold by hornady. who told you that bs.

[@HouseholdDog]

He is actually doing this video in the middle of an active range "Just shoot around me guys!"

[@JaronActual]

Please. Paul simply wills the bullets to change their course in mid-flight.

[@somebloke3869]

I love that someone's dog is funnier than most other people.

[@nunyabidniz2868]

Love how "pardon the firearm reports" turns into Paul continuing to film as the rain starts & everyone else packs up & leaves 'cause they're made of sugar & melt when they get wet...