120 YEARS OLD SCHWARZLOSE M1898: Very detailed function of every part .

My series continue.
Today I will show in details operation and function of every major part of the gun.
Given there only few of them, they multitask.
1) 4 springs total. Mag spring. Rear sight spring. Main/ striker/ extractor/ sear spring . Barrel/ trigger/ disconnect spring
2) attached to the striker sear works as an extractor ( only part way, forced by the frame ramp. Most of the ejection perhaps is due to blowback and ejector kick).
The sear It also works as a dynamic stripping block. Taking over from the hold open- it continues and shoves the rounds into the chamber.
It seems well build ,heat treated and is not flimsy as some sources suggest.
3) trigger works as a disconnect as well.
4) hold open lever carries the ejector with it. It also keeps column of rounds down, strips a new round on the move forward ( then the sear takes over). It stops the bolt on the way back agains the frame.
The rear of the frame seems solid and and I don’t see that the bolt would shear the rear guide loop. Seems highly unlikely.
5) this gun has the most unique mag, pivoted follower allows the tapered rounds to be aligned straight by changing it,s angle from the bottom to the top. I think it would be helpful for rimfire rounds
6) This is longest of short recoils operated guns perhaps: 20 mm total travel, and ~ 15 mm locking distance( held by the holding hook - lever which is timed and manipulated by the bolt groves)
Overall this is one of the coolest gun designs. Very unusual assortment of original elements.
7) The barrel length is not 163 mm (6.5”) as frequently listed - that included the extension with the lock. Correctly measured by a clean road to the face of the bolt -150 mm(6”)
One slight disappointment - it seems to not be able to extract a round manually due to it,s design and perhaps slow speed of manual extraction.
However, it ejected and apparently aggressively extracted when shot, because I have the distinct claw markings on the shells’ groves
Good news, the tapered rounds fall out easily upon slight tilt if one needs to unload without shooting.
Thanks. Enjoy

[@thefirstmissinglink]

Cool 👍

[@STEINBVG]

Thanks

[@MrGindre]

C’est une œuvre d’art!

[@STEINBVG]

Absolutely agree. It,s not just a weapon, it,s a mechanical sculpture.

[@user-to4vl7ej4c]

Очень интересная вещь, спасибо за показ !

[@STEINBVG]

Рад

[@ComradeMauser]

Крутая вещица! Как с тобой связаться? Инстаграм там или ещё что-то , показал бы свою запрещенку не для Ютуба 😅

[@STEINBVG]

Конечно дружище. Два варианта: Telegram . Я там под своим именем Vitaly Steinberg. Или , если уж совсем по шпионски, есть такая blockchain оперируемая соцсеть BASTYON.COM. Я там под ником USSR1968. Конечно еще есть Viber и WhatsApp. PS. Я к стати думал что было бы круто ( и по-моему тебе по силам) сделать рабочую миниатюру моего Schwarzlose Хотелось бы поболтать в живую, я бы очень был рад знакомству.

[@kadirakarr]

Can you make a detailed video about gun making?

[@STEINBVG]

I DIDN'T MAKE THIS GUN

[@kadirakarr]

@@STEINBVG thenks. I was talking about what you did.

[@STEINBVG]

Ok

[@tenlittleindians]

It's a shame we have no photos of the various parts being manufactured. The only thing more complicated than designing such a gun is figuring out how to machine the individual pieces when they are of such a complex shape. They didn't have CNC machines then and we have very few shaper machines today. They designed around the technology at the time just as we do today. A CNC machinist would lose sleep trying to figure out how to hold and machine such a part as that bolt today. I can't tell from looking at it but it's possible that bolt is made out of several pieces that are brazed together or silver soldered together. It certainly would make manufacturing it easier if it were multi pieces. An example of such a piece would be 90 degree and 45 degree hydraulic fittings. We manufactured the sub components in the early 70's on screw machines. We then milled the angles on these sub components on old turret lathes. The sub components were then pressed together with a ring of braze wire in between the components. These were then stacked into an oven which heated them to melt the braze wire and fuse these parts together. We then tumbled the parts to clean them and moved them down to our plating department where they were plated. John Deere was one of the end users of these fittings. They used them on hydraulic cylinders for hose connections to the hydraulic pumps. Looking at one of these finished fittings you could never see how it was constructed. Those fittings are now made in China or elsewhere and those of us here in the United States with knowledge of their construction are getting up there in age. These manufacturing secrets get lost to time as we get older. Let's hope they film and preserve current manufacturing methods better than they have done in the past so we are not constantly reinventing the wheel. Those ears for bolt rotation do look weak and I can understand people that don't know any better commenting on this as being a poor design but they would be wrong. The center lug in the back handles the brunt of the rotational loads and those slim lugs at the front that ride in the side channels have very little load exerted on them. It would be interesting to draw up that bolt piece with it's grooves and get an estimate from the Chinese vendors to produce a 100 pieces. I wonder if they would try and make it out of one piece or if they would break it down into sub components? Breaking it down would make it easier and cheaper to produce but you would need to design those sub components to handle the forces exerted in a proper way.

[@STEINBVG]

Check out this. patents.google.com/patent/US712730A/en?assignee=Schwarzlose&before=priority:19021231&after=priority:19020101&oq=Schwarzlose+1902 1) JM BROWNING AND AW SCHWARZLOSE I believe were perhaps high functioning savants who could see and think in 3D. They did not need CAD. I know for a fact, that Browning was observed in FN factory standing in the middle of a shop with eyes closed and moving his hands and fingers in the air as if moving something. He saw….his creations . 2) the gun looks as if it,s made manually using mill and lathe. And perhaps more simple manual tools. In fact, I have a report by Austrian authorities that indicates they criticized it for not being ‘Machine manufactured.’ Which means expensive to scale up the production. Not clear how Luger avoided that fate , because I know every part was individually made and came for assembly in baskets. The assembly men would pick up the best fitting ones, assemble a gun, stamp the SN on every part , disassemble, heat treat, and finish them- then final assembly. My gun looks like it was made the same way. Hand fitted. Every part is numbered. But Lugers were made this way in billions. 3) believe the bolt was made from a solid stock. Even though it has uncomfortable for manufacturing protrusions . It is a complex thing, so is the barrel with it,s extension and lug lock. But I think any protrusions could start as a collar- ring in the lathe and then the rest removed? I am looking for as much info as possible about my gun. If you hear anything, let me know. Thanks P.s . I have a friend professional mechanic. Will ask him if this gun can be made in a shop without CNC.

[@tenlittleindians]

@@STEINBVG It certainly can be made without CNC but it would require fixtures to hold it for each process. They may have used shapers to cut some of the features using hand ground tools to fit in the clapper box.

[@user-up4de1hl8b]

У тебя конкретно влспалëнный мозг!🤯👎💩🤬🤮

[@STEINBVG]

Обойдусь без комплиментов- в следующий раз уберу из моего канала!

[@user-yu4ue1bl1p]

Извините, если Вам уже задавали подобный вопрос, но где вы вообще эту штуку умудрились откопать?

[@STEINBVG]

Нет не спрашивали. Я давно знал о нем и не мечтал даже надеяться иметь его- примерно 30 упомянуты на западе и только 2 из них с 8+1 патронами. Большинство Шварцлозе 1898 погибло в России... Увидел его на странице одного респектабельного торговца старинного оружия. И, не взирая на неприличную цену, решил , что такой возможности больше не представится. Любовь с первого взгляда, так же как и к Лугеру. Добавлю, что он был когда-то у одного швейцарского колликционера редкого оружия. Тот писал книги об оружии, помоему. Потом его коллекцию распродали. 10 лет назад, этот Шварцлозе всплыл на аукционе в Штатах, возможно попал к вышеупомянутому торговцу ...и ко мне. Он изображен во многих статьях , материалах об оружии. Он венец моей небольшой коллекции. Спасибо .

[@user-yu4ue1bl1p]

@@STEINBVGпотраченные деньги, считаю, действительно того стоили. Рад, что впоследствии удача его иметь выпала именно Вам.

[@STEINBVG]

Спасибо. У меня не разу не мелькнуло сомнения…Как когда-то говорили мы в союзе: надо брать

[@sacriptex5870]

thats a tank design, really bulletproof, that gun would last more 100 years or more, but a glock... or any plastic gun would be destroied by that time

[@STEINBVG]

I do not know. Difficult to judge. Glocks saw a lot of action around the world. This is a collector gun that barely saw any action. There,s no data about longevity and serious use of these rare weapons. But if given opportunity, I believe Schwarzlose would tune it up to meet the vigorous and perhaps military requirements. Thanks

[@martkbanjoboy8853]

This was the gun the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party ordered. The 1905 revolution failed, the guns were confiscated by the Czar. The ultimate bolshy gun. Did Lenin carry one? I think Lenin would have a party boss gun like say a Browning 1903. The Schwarzlose 98 is more of a camp guard or 'heavy' gun. The Schwarzlose reminds me of the Gabbet Fairfax pistol. Today the modern analog is the Desert Eagle, more of a portable rifle even compared to the Schwarzlose.

[@STEINBVG]

Thanks. Interesting. I have heard the story about the major shipment to Russia, I am aware of at least 2 guns with the inscription in Cyrillic of a russian trading company. I showed them in my prior episodes. But I still have no info about the guns actual performance , durability, reliability and resistance to elements. If you have any info or links please share! I want to know everything there is about my gun.

[@martkbanjoboy8853]

​@@STEINBVGThat's all I know. These arms are extremely rare in my country. With the completely unjust 'hand gun ban' they will become more rare.

[@STEINBVG]

Which country?