OLTL Todd & Blair - 2001-59 (Starr refuses to leave her mom)

[@BeautifulSpirit-24]

The irony of Todd's tactics is that Peter Manning, severly damaged Todd by alienating him from his mother throughout his own childhood.

[@Justicia007]

In addition to beating him burning him torturing him, yes

[@debb481]

That is ironic. Sad that he's willing to do the same thing to his own child and even when Blair tells him she won't be marrying Max. At that time, Vicki blasted him for keeping Starr from Blair. He also kidnapped Starr for revenge and even had plans to leave the country with her. Of course, Blair too uses Starr against him. I got tired of this refrain in their story lines. The writers were lazy.

[@debb481]

So glad Todd was pressured by Starr into doing right by her here. She was quite upset. He needs to realize how much she loves her mother and find a way to work with Blair, just as Blair needs to realize how much Starr loves Todd. The game playing with Starr gets SO old during these years no matter who does it or why.

[@Justicia007]

It's just crazy but Blair constantly sees the worst in Todd but wants to wait around for Max and is trying to convince him that they can raise the baby together when she overheard him saying he's going to steal the baby from her while she's in prison and make sure she rots in there the rest of her life.

[@nattyps3160]

Horrid. I also thought todd figured it out when he flashbacked to them having sex & blair freaking the night max dumped her like he was counting !!! How cant todd demand a paternity test hes made 2 kids w/ the woman already

[@Justicia007]

@@nattyps3160 slightly unrealistic plot point. Totally agree with you

[@debb481]

I thought that Blair did love Max. She loved Todd more. But she continued to love Todd in spite of his hurtful actions (like betraying her, kidnapping Starr, threatening rape, the DBL, etc) and she loved Max in spite of his hurtful actions (cheating, conspiring against her, etc etc) To me, Blair, despite the fact that she lied and manipulated a lot, still put up with too much from both Todd and Max.

[@Justicia007]

@debb481 well yes if this were real life definitely! But given that it isn't, she's crazy to give up Todd at any point! lol

[@debb481]

@@Justicia007 In the face of his temper and villainous ways, she'd be better off without him but she can't help herself and vice versa. These two are both so flawed! Love, love them as a couple so Im glad that they are both very forgiving of one another.