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[@Love18wheelz]

im sooooo rejoicing with you !! an old timer once told me "if the why is big. enough the how dont matter..." experience, wisdom ,knowledge, and guidance ...

[@kansascountry970]

Congrats on the water source. Good neighbors are such a blessing. I have met all 3 of my future neighbors around my land and they are all very friendly. I used to work with one of them and he has lent me numerous tools and helped more than I ever imagined. I am so thankful for friendly neighbors!

[@sylviavega-ortiz3006]

Brilliant plan and you did a good job explaining it. You are blessed to have such good neighbors.

[@Graeme408]

I completely agree with Mick. Unless it is in writing and witnessed it never happened. Also plan on managing silt through your filter fabric. I think you are on the right track. I love the use of UV for cleaning the water.

[@barthamburg4351]

I cannot wait to see how this plays out. It sounds like an awesome idea. If it works out well I think I'll be using a similar system. thanks for bringing us along.

[@Rprecision]

My family homesteaded a property 35 years ago. Lots of trials and tribulations along the way, I certainly understand your approach. One thing that stands out years later is all the money, time and lost production used to "save" money, later on REALLY didn't. It cost more! Put your feelers out for a drilling company who needs some plumbing work? Trade some services, etc. I still think you can get a well AND finish building this year Best of luck! Love your videos

[@aarontcramer]

Have you considered rainwater catchment with enough storage to span the dry periods? A structure to hold solar panels may double nicely as a catchment surface. Keep up the good work!

[@davidjames2235]

Great Idea. Hope it all works out for you all.

[@cindyseaver1305]

I was so excited when I saw we have water. Good luck 👍 I can't wait for building to start.

[@TheUserid82]

If you have access to the springs get directly from them to remove the contamination chance. A holding tank for a pump can still be put in where you wanted but removes the pulling in open water risk. The overflow would be the biggest issue with freezing. Developing 2 springs at the same time is just a little more work then one and gives you one and the owners one even if you just leave the second spring draining back to the creek it is ready for what they want to do with it. A direct drive solar pump should have no problem with that short distance and elevation letting you refill the tanks any time the sun is out and the overflow can ether go right to the creek or to a holding pond for later use.

[@burnsfarm4567]

Im excited for you. We just spent $8800 for a 6" well 500' with a 1.5hp pump and a 44 gallon tank. But glad we have water now. We have several creeks on our property so we will likely tap intonthat in the future. But i am truly fortunate because everything I do I split 50/50 with my parents.

[@phermey]

Your room idea is my plan also. With a couple of differences. Instead of buying tanks like you are considering, I want to buy the 250/275 gallon used food grade IBC totes. The aluminium framed 'bags' with a 2/2.5" valve on the bottom to plumb. stack those things up for water catchment. They can be had for 20-50 bucks a pop. A much much cheaper alternative. And leaves a lot of options open later on down the road if you want to use a couple for untreated water that would be used for gardening. Connect a couple/few for passive solar for heating floor, etc. If you see an issue with this, please let me know. So I can figure things out.

[@greggwoods7173]

Thats great.. I agree with the poster below.. You need to put the agreement in writing to protect yourself into the future.

[@mmanut]

Clever thinking. When the water is in the tank on side of hill in the room built with tires, wouldn't gravity feed your house and shop? I guess a pump would give you more pressure but if fire fighting is your concern a portable pump on back of your pick up would be more effective. Water pipe from spring needs to be buried deep enough to keep from freezing. Good luck. Vinny 🇺🇸.

[@greathodgy22]

You are on the right track. Use a submersible well pump and lay it horizontal in your container in the creek. I have a neighbour with a dug shallow well and his pump lays that way inside a 4" ABS pipe. He then pumps the water into a cistern in his basement where another submersible well pump supplies the house.

[@HewettHomestead]

Great idea brother, i tell you what you have had a good deal of problems with this land but you always kick em in the teeth and send em packing! Hats off to you Sir! No doubt you are showing your children what a real man looks like! Good job Brother!

[@RedPoppyRanch]

Thanks Buddy!

[@ig2087]

Oh Mein I wish I had seen this earlier. I would have suggested that you installed a Ram pump in the stream and install your water tank higher up on the hill behind the pad. The ram pump doesn’t use electricity and runs practically forever. You would then gravity feed water from the tank up the hill, down to your house. Perfect set up.

[@TheOregonTale]

Glad you were able to come up with a water solution. Now you can move forward again without having to immediately worry about well drilling and all the uncertainty and cost that comes with that. -Dede

[@mandbhomestead]

Excellent plan. Hope it all comes together. Looking forward to seeing that go in.

[@18twilliams]

Sounds good!I have a well and still use a UV steriliser and filters! Good piece of mind!

[@4wheelsonmywagon733]

Congratulations- well done. Nothing succeeds like perseverance 👍🤠

[@williamburnett6616]

I hear in your voice that a big release in your live. Remember Rome wasn't build in a day, keep on keeping on . God Bless you and family and Remember safety is number one on your homestead.

[@1timby]

Far be it for me to tell you what to do. It's your back, sweat, and land. Maybe look into rain water harvesting along with your plans. I don't ever recall anyone ever complain about having too much potable water on their off grid homestead. Also, I recommend looking at the WOM from the earth ship community for water treatment as well as they have built cisterns utilizing cans and cement. Just my 2 cents....LOL

[@Bigmurphdog]

Were planning on having 2-- 3000 gallon tanks for our rain catch system. I plan on burying them at least 3 feet down, just past the freeze line. Plus put the containers in a barn to protect them from the Northern wind in the winter. I'm leaving Utah because of the law prohibiting citizens from gathering water, and this is why I am coming to Idaho. Keep it up Mr Poppy, you're on the right road.

[@peterlue1156]

I would use a ram pump. I would also build sepp holzer style ponds on the hills to collect as much water as possible

[@EarthshipFreedom]

something I just thought of, we have a 2500 gallon norwesco tank . the only thing i would have done differently is 2" rigid foam around the sides and top, first some sand , then foam. winter to summer temps will change the temp slightly, which changes an on-demand water heaters ability a little. and fill the new tank before it rains on it, it will float up, or try to.

[@Slo6.7]

You're property is getting better by the week!! I remember when it wasn't anywhere near as nice.

[@hercorock123]

Pump up in stages pump to tank to house second storage tank and pump then up to garage storage tanks. Just pay attention to your head pressure. Use square 275 potable tanks use a good carbon active filter . Use all this water for gray toilet shower laundry etc

[@hercorock123]

Make natural filter around what ever you put in ground 3/4 gravel sand . I would use at least 1 1/4 poly pipe to storage tank and then a grunfos or Meyer boosters pump with well troll tank to house. Also worry about fire suppression system or yard hydrant

[@davidmicheletti6292]

Could you bury a long pipe parallel to the creek with holes and filler cloth that would in turn drain into a small tank on your property. A lift pump would send water to an even larger tank near your home. If you drill holes in a tank you would be limited to a very small area from which to collect from but a pipe would offer far more surface area. Besides do you really want to drill holes in a new expensive plastic tank?

[@ArkansasHomesteader]

Glad to hear you have a solution. without having to hire a well drilled for now. If I understood the setup you want to filter the water into the side of the tank. I wanted to suggest another way if you hadn't considered it. Burry the tank like you planned, but just up from the tank dig out a long trench and fill that with gravel and a 4 inch field line running into the bottom of your tank. That's basically just a septic tank in reverse and those have a long track record of success and cheap readily available parts. Just a thought.... best of luck however you do it. Can't wait to see it working for ya.

[@tomkeyser8384]

If you have the head pressure consider a ram pump. Doesn't matter how slow it is, it runs 24/7 for free.

[@richardjimenez7394]

That’s what I was thinking too. Installing a sup-pump , but electric power for the pump motor ? Unless you run power to your location, to pump water into tanks. If it’s possible. That’s sounds like a great idea you have.

[@o.smallwood4268]

Looked over below post to make sure wasn't repeating someone else. Being a plumber as well for more years than would like to have been, please don't go any smaller than a 1" poly line from spring to your storage tank. Most pump manufactures size their pumps for 1-1/4". Submersible pump if have electricity. Ram pump if have concerns with power. Any sizing questions I would be gad to help...best to you on your project.

[@jesperdahl1486]

I have been thinking that the solution was to use one of the springs on Terrell and Mindy`s land, but have you thought about shooting an elevation 80-85 ft. above your house, across to their land, and see if there is a spring that high, if there is, you could build a spring box there, and connect it to a tank above your house with 2" PE irrigation pipe WITHOUT any pumps, not buying any pumps, will free up money to buy a LOT of PE pipe, and the system would be very simple, and require no power! Like others I think you should just bury your tank directly into the ground, and not spend time money, and effort to build a cavern for it, a notarized letter of permission to use the spring, would not be a bad idea! Keep up the amazing work.

[@jeremymtz360]

Have you looked into a ram pump? Ive seen amazing things done with a ramp pump.

[@viktororban5684]

A UV system should work fine, I'd suggest getting a UV sensor so that you can monitor the actual output of the lamps. Just so they can be replaced on time and alert you to a system failure. Are you planning on storing a Winter's worth of water in case the creek freezes?

[@robertchaffee5662]

The guage wire you will have to use to maintain current is going to be costly. You have to up the wire gage 1 size per 100 ft to prevent voltage drop.

[@jimh712]

sounds like a good idea.. if money allows a well pump might live longer.. again if money allows maybe a tank larger than 250 gallons.. if you would be so kind.. since you have tons of more expertise than i do as a plumber and in water filtration... when you set up your ultraviolet water filtration system... would you please do a video on it and walk us thru it. ?

[@mick.Walker]

I would get all permissions in writing, it's amazing how things can go pear shaped, sale of land, death in family, Dept, things said in good faith today may not stand legally if things change, I would hate to see you without water.

[@craftsoda]

I don't think he would be able to sell this as a livable house (certainly not if a bank loan was required) with this type of water system, written permissions or not.

[@TheHermitHacker]

The long term goal seems to be having a dedicated well drilled, which should insulate him and his family from any problems that could arise from what you bring up in your comment. Getting water is the most important part at the moment. If and when i ever get land, i will make sure i have access to water first before anything else.

[@jackiecreamer7633]

Have you considered of putting in water holding tanks? Yes you would have to haul water for a while. But maybe it would buy a little bit of time before you have to drill a well. Also get the agreement in writing, file with county courthouse. Just a suggestion.

[@hartstudebakerkid]

A coffer dam with a ram pump would work just fine to get the water to your tank. You do not need UV for you all you will need is a few 10 inch housings. Start with 3 micron then a 1 micron then a submicron in the .3 range.

[@waynecompton7612]

Good idea ,but try and get your building weather proof before the weather changes,Take Care and Thank you for the video.

[@dalefolck7270]

You might be able to use a ram pump. It uses no power to pump it up the hill to a holding pump. Thay work great. Check out Practical Prepare 775. Yall would get enough for animals, gardens an all with plenty of pressure

[@kansascountry970]

Dale Folck just in case he doesn't know who you are talking about, the name of the channel is Engineer775. Great channel on alternative water systems!

[@willamwallace7777]

With all the changes in elevation I would find a way to use a ram jet pump...no electric power needed. YT has a number of videos on home made ram pumps. YT Wranglerstar has a couple of self made Ram pumps...and some good videos.

[@esquiredalegunn]

Never doubted it.

[@Drinks-and-finger-food]

Excellent!!

[@EarthshipFreedom]

may want to look into a dankoff solar slow pump.

[@MrRDFORD]

Great idea. So am i understanding you have to dig a trench through the road or under somehow for water line? That can be tricky with county and maybe state legalities. Might be more relaxed where you are, just a thought bud. Glad something is coming together for ya though. Been a hassle lol.

[@oldtimeengineer26]

good luck on the will never sell the property. After every thing you just talked about I would call around and get a well drilled. Your area must be very relaxed on laws to be able to do what you just said. Here a well runs about $10ft my well cost around $2350 for 235ft now that was 3 years ago. Good luck

[@SuperBigblue19]

They want around $ 65ft I believe he said already.

[@donlatimer5114]

Make yourself a three-quarter inch ram pump, put one end of the line facing upstream with a screen over the end to keep debris out of the pipe. Run your line do you where you want to have a holding tank, the ramp up will fill up a 500 gallon tank within 48 hours. If you want to know how to build your own ram pump go to wrangle star on KZbin and check out his ram pump videos. I hope this will be useful information and beneficial to your water needs.

[@lovemind8466]

That altitude is something serious it literally has taken your breath away in this video LOL I have definitely been there

[@tynyyn5344]

I agree with Mic Walker, get the permission to use the creek in writing. Or..... buy a chunk of land that the creek runs through. Wouldn't be much, just a notch out of Terrell's line which would grab a bit of the creek. When will you start building a house or shop?

[@RedPoppyRanch]

Next week.

[@estrellamountain1]

your State should have simple documents to fill out giving you an permanent easement for access to maintain the equipment and tank and free use of the water....

[@Mycouponman]

Good job! But never say never. We said the same thing 20 years ago. Guess what we sold it. I agree with everyone on here,get it in writing or best would be to buy a chunk of the creek.

[@junkyardkustoms]

Maybe this is a stupid question, but what do you do about water in the winter when that creek is frozen solid?

[@RedPoppyRanch]

Hope my tank is down deep enough to continue working.

[@lastniceguy1]

Better check the legality of doing it. Some places you are not allowed to take or divert the water. Also, are there people down stream?

[@topnotchpiperdad]

Great news

[@jimh712]

something you might not be familiar with cement treated soil.. you are thinking dirt filled tires for you water tank room... from what i see... soil filled tires is inexpensive but very labor intensive.. since you own the backhoe... you could, depending on how vertical your dirt will stand.. diging 3 foot wide (the walls) trenchs. mixing in maybe 4 sacks per yard for cement... it's not hard with a loader... then packing it with little moisture. with a wheel in your how.... back in the trenchs... my rough calculations figuring $10 a sack.. the cement would cost just under $3000... i understand that's a bit of money... but within maybe within 7 days total you can have your walls and room dug... of course between the time you finish the walls you need to allow about 2 weeks for them to cure... before pulling the dirt out of the room it's just a thought... most people haven't been around cement treated soil... I've worked it i few times on military bases.. for any of you that are saying????????? get couple of bags of cement and play with it.. (formula app.. 4 sacks per cubic yard of finished product) when installed right it's like concrete.. i plan on using it for my barn floor.. (don't stop until you have the finish you want, tomorrow is to late) (again I'm very familiar with it.. the first time we screwed up...tried to finish it the next day. even a cat 12g blade couldn't fine tune it..) just my 2 cents worth...

[@artlandry233]

Did you give up looking for the spring at the end of the road you built?

[@RedPoppyRanch]

No.

[@wandamcgann7728]

get it in writing and a contract for as long as you live on that land, just in case of legal issues that do come up when one passes away or sale of the property.. cover all bases!!

[@MattGHalfGProductions]

its times like this where an uphill spring would be a game changer

[@robertchaffee5662]

If your going to drink from the stream order from Dicks Sporting goods or Walmart the Sawyer water filter. You could could drink water from the ditch along the road and it will filter as good as a kidney dialysis machine. 99% of bacteria and contaminates removed. I have one in my hiking survival kit.

[@ericpearson6145]

Can you us a ram pump to pump up the hill?

[@philipx2]

Yes Yes Try and setup a ram pump. Place tank on your land then boost pump to where needed.

[@marieschieler1914]

Did you check into a rain catchment system? Might be cheeper.

[@hobbyhomesteader984]

I agree with you. With the amount of rain fall the mountains of Idaho gets, they should fill a 3500 gal tank in no time. I can fill a 1300 gal. system twice between spring and fall...I'm in Spokane, WA.

[@jeffbegley7755]

Don't forget to bounce it off Cedar as well

[@scottfoster2487]

A 1 inch pipe from you tank to the house with gravity will provide you lots of pressure . Did I not say ask your neighbor about a water acces permission to use their water sourece, You benifit them for when your done with this acess point the neighbors have a option for a anothe water acess point for their own uses.

[@johnahern9908]

I would strongly suggest that you look at WRANGLER STAR'S web site. He has uploaded severely videos on how to make a ram pump with material from the home depot store and shows how he has installed it as well, by making a small dam across a stream to create pressure build up. The pump pumps water a horizontal distance of over 150-200 meters and an elevation of 80+ meters into a storage tank. to create lots of pressure at the faucet/outlets. Also, check out his emergency fire fighting set up too.

[@cbwmama8461]

Good idea BUT get it in writing! You never know when the unexpected will happen. Also you will have to check that you will be able to trench out across the road since you don't own that.

[@loganvanleigh7601]

I agree with comment below: good intentions are fine, but only paper stands up in court As for your water source, it's called bank filtration and is used widely in Europe. Useless against some of the nastier toxic industrial chemicals but fine for fecal contamination.

[@TobinBelisle]

would you not have to cross the road with that pipe?

[@larryceaser1706]

just a suggestion u might want to look at youtube channel "Engineer775" he does plans and suggestions no cost for off grid properties in the usa lots of posts on his channel showing non electric pump basically a self driving piston pump i have looked at several of his pumps cause quite honestly i didnt believe they would work but i was wrong they do up to 3/4 inch line if you have the source like i say just a suggestion pump from the river up the 38 feet to a 250 or 500 gallon tank and there is your gravity fed water for the house and cold doenst affect them cause it is always flowing even if its to an overflow good luck

[@beachlife1411]

nice he said you can get on the other side

[@keithmoore2182]

You could also bury a shipping container half way in the hill

[@robertchaffee5662]

What about a ram pump?

[@RedPoppyRanch]

too much lift...

[@robertchaffee5662]

Red Poppy Ranch I seen a guy pump water with one 500 ft across a field and then up 20 ft to fill storage tanks on a rack on the back side of his barn.

[@robertchaffee5662]

Red Poppy Ranch and what if on the downward slope you had 60 ft. of 4 or 6 inch pipe? Creating a pressure bladder in the middle. Causing pressure downward to a reduced 1 inch pipe at the same time creating suction from a reduced 1 inch pipe to the stream with a screened foot valve? You'll need a valve at the bottom of the hill and a tee at the highest point in the line with a short line straight up with a valve. Turn the bottom valve off. Open the top valve and fill the system there with a pump in the stream to prime the system. When water and all the air is out. Close the valve and open the valve at the bottom of the hill. A natural syphon will occur. Don't forget to blurry 42 inches to keep from freezing in the winter.

[@geoffcook8570]

Why not use a ram pump to move the water it's a one of cost and no ongoing cost to run.

[@carlschmiedeke151]

Are you in Colorado & if so how far abouts from Pueblo, ? N,/ s/ e or w of pueblo

[@RedPoppyRanch]

Idaho

[@mrjohngreig]

would a windmill pump do the job?

[@RedPoppyRanch]

Possibly except that it might be prone to freezing in the winter.

[@mrjohngreig]

oh yea I forgot about that... we had one on our farm and it use to pump water up a hill to our tanks,,, but yea didnt get snow in my region of New Zealand

[@davidriley8590]

cant you use charcoal? fill lots of sacks with it and place them in the well that will sort out the water purity for you.

[@frankcar1965]

Why are you breathing so hard? Are you not acclimated to the altitude?

[@hercorock123]

Craig list for tanks

[@rufus2130]

Water law varies from state to state. Is what you are planning legal? Check with a lawyer and make sure you have all the I's dotted and the T's crossed. Nothing is forever. Your new neighbors may put in a septic system, a cattle pen or a chicken house. Think real hard about it before you put in a lot of money and hard work. Down stream users may have a legal right to that stream water. Personally, I think it would be better to bite the bullet and put in your own well. Just my opinion.

[@jimh712]

upon future contemplation on the 250 gallon tank you're thinking of... you're right... because you'll have more capacity outside the tank in the rock and sand layer...

[@gregorythomas333]

Check out ram pumps for getting the water up to the tank site. There is a really good guy that runs Practical Preppers...his YT name is: Engineer775 He has loads of water & power ideas!

[@ksingleton101]

You can bet the EPA is watching this video and are waiting for the hole to be dug before they swoop in and fine you for diverting water you don't own. It may be on your land but you don't own the water!

[@jefftrahan8296]

Investigate ram pump engineer 775 cheap and reliable

[@joeblan9426]

Just thought I'D share another You Yube Channel that might of be interest to you.Its Engineer 775 Practical Prepper. He has a lot of good water pump Videos as well as Solar! A very good channel Like Yours,Which I really Enjoy!Thanks for Sharing !

[@robertfirestone5743]

RAM PUMP MAY HELP ON COST TO START

[@robpridgen3791]

Going to say same thing. I have one on my property and pump up hill to a holding tank.

[@roberthowell932]

They never ask for a handout but if they had a patron i would send a few bucks their way a month.

[@roberthowell932]

Agree ...years ago ran a troop of 34 boys long ago.

[@roberthowell932]

With running that troop years ago if you take the *male* figure out of a relationship and you have a son I have seen later on negative influences on a child who craves for that attention.

[@raymondmills9377]

Are you over engineering the tank? Couldn't you just bury a 500 gal tank?

[@RedPoppyRanch]

Probably...

[@craigcasho1253]

If it was easy, everybody would be doing it!!!!!!!!!!!

[@yeti8it396]

I was going to thumbs up but it would make it 666 likes . :0