12inch 2400-2800 stall VS 10inch 3500-3800 stall 700r4

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@02autogt Ай бұрын

Really glad to see you keeping it a conventional small block and NOT doing an LS swap...

@zacharywallace2243 Ай бұрын

😃

@nadronnocojr Ай бұрын

Glad. , As if you set the standard for cool? Ls is possibly greatest engineering ever .. like the hemi is to drag racing ….you keep listening to records , telling everyone it sounds better, and how. A half a gallon was 64 oz.

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

@@nadronnocojr I assume glad as in it’s not the same ls content as everyone else only reason ls got so much attention is affordability/ durability and now days a competitive ls cost same as building a conventional sbc or bbc really comes down to preference.

@jerryespinoza2113 Ай бұрын

Greatest engineering ever? You must not know much. FYI....it's a small block @@nadronnocojr

@hydrocarbon82 Ай бұрын

The funny thing is the common saying was "glad it's not a SBC" before the LS was common. SBC swaps were nearly as common as dirt for older pre-60's hot rods.

@msh6865 Ай бұрын

Honestly, I'd rather watch the process of slowly going faster and faster with a low dollar project than a high cost turbo'd LS swap. No need to follow the crowd. Keep doing your own thing and have fun!

@m1l3s1 Ай бұрын

Right!

@d.j.9961 Ай бұрын

My brother had several different F bodies! His 79 Z28 had a stroker 406 (custom length rods, amber lightweight pistons 11/1 compression with a th400 with a new valve body, shift kit, 3500 stall, 373 gears, Holley 750 double pumper w/manual secondaries. Adding a stroker kit to a 400 is def the way to go! I read a article years ago about the 400 sb & it said by simply boring it .030 over to a 406, it would have 750 hp & torque. I forget all the info in his 400, the lift & duration but, I know it had aftermarket alluminum heads 202/160, red anodized roller rockers & man was it fast & strong!!! On any on ramp, it would hit well over 160 mph before we hit the interstate! It was built by a local machine shop for his son but, due to life & legal issues/needing bond, 5he car went up for sale & my brother bought it. It was NICE. I had seen it a few times as a kid, it was always a show car at different events. His son blew up his motor so they built the stroker 406 & that's when they had to sell it. We had a lot of fun in that car! Every bolt was a high polished 12 point bolt. It was red with black trim.

@meaninglessvalue7778 Ай бұрын

Hell yeah. I have a 408 solid roller in my 91 z28. Thing spins quick

@AllConsumingJAWS Ай бұрын

Traction Bar Kit. I had a kit on my 89, and it worked wonders...😮

@lambchopLSX87 Ай бұрын

He don’t have traction problems lol the cars just fine

@sevenskulls1 Ай бұрын

Solid 13 second car at the track! Can't wait to see the results with a bottle. Awesome to see the 305 pissing folks off!!!

@jeffreyeaton9934 Ай бұрын

I ran nos kit years ago in my 78 Monte Carlo. Stock 350 bottom end 461X DH heads comp cam 262/462 600 db vc jr intake stock iron exhaust manifolds 3.50 gear 350 turbo stock converter shifted on column 13.70 motor 11.89 125 shot stall 1000 shifted at 5000

@yeahididit9054 Ай бұрын

Yeah that’s a 350 though. I don’t get the logic on keeping the 305

@lambchopLSX87 Ай бұрын

@@yeahididit9054cuz it’s what he has is what I’m thinking

@JesseGrowsChannel Ай бұрын

Love all the updates on this car

@RobertRentschler Ай бұрын

Really enjoy the content! a true hot rodder at heart!!!

@bluecollarhotrods9781 Ай бұрын

I feel your pain, I'm at a similar point with my truck. January I went 13.000 in great air with a tight converter. I went to slightly looser converter (3200) But, the weather was not nearly as good in March. I slowed to 13.08 despite it 60 footing almost .1 better. Fast forward, about a month ago that converter kept having the bolts back out despite red loctite and proper TQ specs. I swapped to yet another converter (3800) and am waiting for cooler weather and hurricane season to end here in FL. I'm also working on getting some more weight out during my down time. I'd like to see you knock at least 100 lbs off of that car without chopping it up. I'll be anxiously waiting to see the results of your track trip. Please start keeping track of the density altitude when you make hits or track runs. I think that will be great for helping you validate your results better.

@Impactjunky Ай бұрын

My 68 Satellite is a traction monster. I'm down to a 1.8 60 foot on the stock converter, stock suspension and cheap street tires and I can make the car dead hook on the street at night with cold tires by just swatting it halfway then going full throttle after it moves a hair. A Tesla Model S Plaid 60 foots in about 1.7 so I'm running with some of the fastest cars on the road from stoplight to stoplight.

@evilinside5984 18 күн бұрын

Although a 1.80 60 ft is very good on the street, the Tesla Plaids i have seen, run Low 1.60s to high 1.5s on the street, & will leave a 1.80 60 ft vehicle, like its tied to a stump, no offense. A 1.80 60 ft., will most likely do a 12 sec. 1/4 mile, to a high 11 sec., while a Plaid doing a 1.60 60 ft., will then pour on the juice towards a 150 Mph trap speed, into the 9 second range, in the 1/4 mile. I ❤️Muscle cars, but Plaids are super quick!

@Impactjunky 18 күн бұрын

@evilinside5984 Their are guys in Mopar forums with street driven B bodies like mine that are 60 footing in 1.4. These cars are all using 300-700 dollar adjustable rear shocks on the factory rear leaf springs which is one of my next mods I have planned.

@evilinside5984 18 күн бұрын

@@Impactjunky - Those Leaf spring cars can put it down, with upgrades, tricks, & drivers skill. I have ran a 1.71 60 ft. On a full treaded, regular street tire=a non drag compounded tire. I have been to those F.A.S.T. Muscle car drag races, i ❤ed it! I even know some tricks of my own, for sleeper cars, & how to get traction😉 I think Bob K. In his dodge was running @ this event, fun times.

@JohnVentarino-ey5ln Ай бұрын

Not bad at all it gets up pretty good

@andysteele4056 Ай бұрын

I'm enjoying watching this car improve. I dig the 305, but a 3.75 stroke crank would be cool in that block making a 334 with +.030. The Cutter performance channel has some good info on porting vortec heads with flowbench results.

@vhp454 Ай бұрын

Congratulations on your build. I have a 1971 Camaro, i have 632 BBC with 3 stages of nos, i run highly prepped t400 with a trans brake and 3800 converter, i also have 4.11 rear gears.

@CalandMike Ай бұрын

I just started the video, and I'm gonna say that the converter helped tremendously.

@CalandMike Ай бұрын

Does not sound like a 3600 stall converter. Sounds just a convert-y as the previous one.

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

I couldn’t stall up the converter without braking tires loose on the road I had to flash the converter to get it spin less. Hopefully I’ll be able to take full advantage this weekend at the track and get a better idea of what the car is capable of before I spray it with nitrous.

@mattmeyers81 Ай бұрын

My 3500 non lockup stall took my foxbody from 9.2s to 8.6s by itself.. down to low 8.3s with a few little mods after that. All in a heavy aod convertible.. best mod by far for a auto car just be sure to have the tire to hold it!

@DarrenWS6 Ай бұрын

Very cool! I feel you on the when it rains, it pours.

@pops3554 Ай бұрын

Torque converter make a huge difference!!!! I got a Trailblazer torque converter...in my 2001 4.3 Silverado!!! I even got a second gear sratch!!!! Ill be going to the track!!!! Soon!

@baby-sharkgto4902 Ай бұрын

That’s a beautiful car. I love those cars

@wideopenthrottle1165 Ай бұрын

Been waiting for this one!

@darriandk Ай бұрын

Do not spray more then a 250 shot without gapping the rings ask me how I know we basically had the same exact car lmao

@doctorcountersteer6580 Ай бұрын

Entirely should be determined by the designed rpm range of your camshaft. These are crucial only for bettering your launch characteristics and your 60 foot times. I would begin with the numbers on your torque curve from a dyno pull and would begin my launch motion about 750-1000 rpm of the torque curve . This also should coincide with the rated stall speed of a given converter. And if you are running any type of an HEI ignition if you do not have plug wires #5 & #7 completely separated from begin to end it can take your ign. module out as soon as the next time you go to start that beast up. I put the longest wire ccw around the cap to afford segregation of them-

@roddogg914 Ай бұрын

The video was fine as far as the different segments. Most guys who are watching didn't need to see every step because we've done it quite a few times ourselves. You did great job of explaining what happened between segments

@segarza Ай бұрын

Cam and heads upgrade makes a big difference with the higher stall converter.

@doolallyproductions7234 Ай бұрын

Im more impressed that you found a vortec 305 those are rare

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

Better yet I have a set of brand new l98 113 aluminum heads for 305 after iv had my fun with the vortec heads.

@nicolasdeleon2819 Ай бұрын

@@Krikkebobbyracingchannel What size cam are you planning for the L30 Vortec?

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

@@nicolasdeleon2819 ether a summit 8802 or8803 depending on how far I go with the heads.

@nicolasdeleon2819 Ай бұрын

@@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ah so going for even more top end pull. Nice. Would you consider the smallest Lunati Bootlegger (XXX08224HR)? Would offer more midrange than the 8802 with the same top end as the 8803 or better. Whatever you choose, looking forward to see what you do with it next year!

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

@@nicolasdeleon2819 I wouldn’t mind running that cam ether great specs

@lambchopLSX87 Ай бұрын

Hey man keep at it enjoy your car, put a 26x8 on the car and you will pick up quite a bit. When you blow it up don’t be a fool, there’s a reason the ls is so popular, you won’t be sorry if you make the switch. Either that or a coyote. The hate is wonderful when you bastardize your car I promise you it’s never ending fun

@davidcraft4909 Ай бұрын

have you seen the video where I think its sqaure body stuff the channel. He unshrouds the block in order to clear 2.02 intake valves. I'm only bringing this up because you are probably already getting as much out of that 305 with the stock heads. I personally have no idea what a set of after market heads with 2.02 valves would do on a 305, but it would probably rev higher and make more power.

@KingJT80 Ай бұрын

The only thing more black sheep than the 305 is a 307😅😂 But now that you have the bigger converter you're going to have the excuse to get pop-up pistons and raise the compression and use a bigger cam 💪🏿

@MrTheHillfolk Ай бұрын

A buddies 70 malibu with a 307 and a glide would step the back end out a little when youd nail it at 40,they arent that bad. 262,267 is definitely more of a pile.

@Spencertrailers Ай бұрын

Great content. Fun to watch

@mattmeyers81 Ай бұрын

Where do you run at in Michigan. I drive up to 131 dragway from Indiana. Hopefully getting up there for the next tnt.. haven't run 1/4 in awhile but going to run a baseline before I bolt on my supercharger this winter. I know I'll only get one shot at it bc I have no rollbar yet and it's a convertible. In April this year I ran 13.53 and they told me I'm limited to 13.49 ... my 1/8 mile times equate to a 13.0-13.1

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

Northern mi dragway. 1/8 mile

@FrankBullitt390 Ай бұрын

Loving the series, but dont count on another mild winter, they say the area is going to get smashed

@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852 Ай бұрын

What rear gear are you running and is tha a lockout converter? My 305 sbc Vortec with a 700R4 and 3.73 rear gears ran 14.0s in the QM with low 2.0s 60 ft times at about 96 MPH. With a 3,000 stall lockout converter. The engine had the factory Vortec roller cam, 1.6:1 roller rockers, an Edelbrock RPM Airgap dual plane intake with a Edelbrock 600 carb. It is a '64 Buick Skylark that weighs 3,400 lbs without me in it. With a better cam a bit more compression you should break under 14s. Do a little bowl blending and chamber deshrouding should be good for a few more tenths. Swap on a genuine imitation RPM Airgap dual plane intake and you'll probably pickup a bit more if you have the hood clearance? On the Bay of e there are factory sbc roller cam regrinds available that are priced a lot more reasonable than a new one, a couple hundred less. They have many performance grinds available but if you can't find what you want they can probably grind one for you to your specs? They're out of Texas. I wouldn't go to large with the cam or you'll probably run slower. I would try to keep the duration at .050" no more than 220 on the intake and no more than 230 on the exhaust unless you have a 4 series gear to get it moving off the line until the RPM gets into the power range and plan on over 10:1 compression. With those heads with no porting with a lift of just over .500" you will make your max HP about 6,400 RPM so if you choose your cam that the max rpm range is 6,000 to 6,500 that would be just right. Just remember that factory hydraulic roller lifters don't like to rev more than 6,500 RPM. I didn't know you're in Michigan, me too. Where abouts are you, I'm about 20 miles north of Detroit.😎👍

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

4.10 rear gear, appreciate the info on the vortec setup and mid Michigan area.

@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852 Ай бұрын

@@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Around Flint?

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

@@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852 2hrs north of flint

@crushthequarter6863 Ай бұрын

Do you have a cut-out for the exhaust that you can open up at the track? That will free up some HP and TQ.

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

No but it still has the stock style exhaust where it comes off the headers to one 2and1/2 in pipe all the back then splits for duels through muffler. I’d like to get true 3inch duels on car and make a video on weather it picks up e/t or not.

@pinkysgarage4517 Ай бұрын

Another informative, entertaining video. I'm impressed with what you've done and really enjoy this project. For a 305, that thing hauls! Is it more fun to drive with the new converter??

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

@@pinkysgarage4517 yes a bit more responsive especially free rev is really snappy and crisp with the smaller converter. Wish I did a before and after on that as well.

@pinkysgarage4517 Ай бұрын

@@Krikkebobbyracingchannel I figured. I have an old G-body build and my only regret in the build is not putting in a converter like you have now. Mine has a Jegs 2300-2700 converter. It's ok, but wish I'd gone with a higher stall. I think you got a good deal on that new transmission. Very reasonable price.

@pedroguillen1506 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the video bro

@blueridgemountainprepper2166 Ай бұрын

What you need is more torque, torque wins races, hp sells engines. You put the 400 in it you better plan on changing the Trans

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

If car gets that far I will most likely move to a th400 for reliability but I do like the over drive for cruising with a 4:10 gear.

@brentpew4853 Ай бұрын

What are you using to get the 1/8 and 1/4 mile times on the street? Is it an app for your phone or a device?

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

Draggy device

@blueridgemountainprepper2166 Ай бұрын

Also prob the biggest motor change to add power to the 305 is heads. The 305 heads suck, I'd go aftermarket or maybe set vortec heads milled down to raise compression. That's prob the biggest hindering factor is the heads and small cylinder really restricts flow around the valves. I raced 305's for years because just like you they were the black sheep of sbc and nobody wanted um but I can build you a 305 that will shock you....reach out

@crushthequarter6863 Ай бұрын

What are the shift extensions on the new one?

@knation92 Ай бұрын

Are you power braking it at all to keep it in the power when it launches? It sounds like you just stomp it from idle.

@kevinjohnson9372 Ай бұрын

I think its gonna hit low 12s with out much 75 shot sprayed outta the hole 😊

@1jardmadman Ай бұрын

Solid lift cam... Bout 278 288 duration set of 373 gears and see what u think then

@Kamala-aint-Black Ай бұрын

Solids on the street 👎🏾

@d.j.9961 Күн бұрын

I saw your vid where a guy called & snitched. Plz understand that many other Y.T. PEOPLE have been charged for the actions on their own channel. Be carefull! Always block your speedo & your location in Mexico. If you build a s.b.400, get aftermarket heads, the offroad cam & bore the engine at least .030 over to a 406 & run a stroker kit, there are plenty of companies that offer kits & they are well worth it! Had a 406 stroker in a 79 Z-28 with a th-400 new valve bodies, shift kit, 3500 stall, 373 gears & oh my was she fast! Holley 750 double pumper with manual secondaries, anodized alluminum roller rockers, 202/160 heads i miss that car so much!!! Be carefull of what you record. It can be used against you. Be safe brother.

@johnj2496 Ай бұрын

weusd to snag the 4 cyl auto s10 converters what other will work in a 700r4 or turbo 350

@lsxnapier584 Ай бұрын

what fuel are you running? i feel like some race gas would wake this thing up, nice build.

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

87 pump gas

@AsswipeGarage Ай бұрын

Race gas does no good if the car doesn't detonate on 87. None.

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

@@AsswipeGarage 8:1 compression ratio

@AsswipeGarage Ай бұрын

@@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Validates my point. Race gas would actually DECREASE power in that motor, cuz it burns slower. I learned the hard way 30 years ago.

@derwinrandle2682 Ай бұрын

Hey I have a 307 sb came out of a 70 chevelle with 53 000 miles ,a 110 Lobe separation 480 /480 lift 230-234 @ 50 you would have a nice piece

@georgiaboy1579 Ай бұрын

What are your thoughts on the new stall converter?

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

@@georgiaboy1579 I think it has definitely made the car faster and makes the throttle response more crisp but I won’t really know tell I put it on a track.

@georgiaboy1579 Ай бұрын

@@Krikkebobbyracingchannel does it stall to the advertised RPM?

@fastinradfordable Ай бұрын

Your upper radiator hose is not in its support bracket.

@northernmichiganaframe5109 Ай бұрын

Have you ever considered a 2004R for the difference in 1-2 gear ratios?

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

Yes but I think as the car gradually gets fast a th400 be the best bet for reliability and performance @@northernmichiganaframe5109

@4077661466jp Ай бұрын

Probably would've been better with 2800stall and 355-373 rear gears, but also a shift kit wouldn't hurt , of course only worth doing if the motor has something going for it like a decent cam goes a long way on 350sbc, but more so with combination of simple inexpensive things nothing wild other then that gonna be a money pit to achieve any real performance, there's always a place for nitrous 😊

@erscustoms911 Ай бұрын

Nice i am in Michigan and have a pretty quick 305 second gen camaro Wanna race 😂

@aria.vega5 Ай бұрын

I'm in Michigan too. With a 305. Wanna race. I'm near alpena

@GAB0XDOMATION1986 Ай бұрын

What gear your running in the rear end

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

4.10

@Wilson_Racing Ай бұрын

Does the 10 inch stall have lockup or not? I gotta have lockup on my builds

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

Yes it is a lock up converter

@yeahididit9054 Ай бұрын

I was wondering why it wasn’t performing better and then you said “305 “ now I see. No way no how am I going through the effort of pulling a 305 only to put in another 305 nope. Does the 305 even come with a roller camshaft? More compression on a bigger5.7 roller motor for same price yet you pick the smaller just to be different?

@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын

@@yeahididit9054 yeah just to be different really if I was chasing horsepower it be turbo ls or 400sbc or big block. Just wanna see what different 305 combinations are capable of. Not a lot of content on 305 sbc and there cheap and still a lot of fun.