13 E-Bike TRICKS Brands Use To Hit A Headline Weight!

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It seems as though the listed weights on lightweight e-bikes aren't all they are cracked up to be. Danny Milner and Alan Muldoon sit down and expose every single trick the bike manufacturers use to hit a headline weight on their e-MTB's.
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@bonzobanana1 6 ай бұрын

Why are people that obsessed about weight when it has a motor. I can understand bike weight being a big issue for conventional bikes but we know ebikes are going to be heavy and if you cut battery capacity for example then you risk running the battery flat and having to ride a very heavy bike without assistance in which case most people would prefer a heavy bike with a longer range. I would of thought range anxiety was a thing on e-mountain bikes. I mean these so called 250W ebikes are drawing close to 900W at times that's a huge discharge rate when climbing. Also range reduces over time as the cells age, I'd rather start from a high capacity. High capacity battery packs age better as more cells means the discharging is shared between cells so they can last longer. So many good reasons to have a large battery pack, lifespan, range, likely improved reliability of the battery pack. Ability to be stored longer for example without potential damage to the cells.

@andymoss4285 6 ай бұрын

My theory is smaller people… While sitting on a full fat 29kg emtb is amazing they ride brilliantly… but if you’re 5’1 52kg, muscling around a massive e-bike into a van or car is a nightmare. Even riding a bike when you’re that small would probably make you feel out of control.

@kentnilsson9757 3 ай бұрын

👍One "trick" that's works is to rebuild a Fox 36 fork from 150mm to 170mm by change the Air Shaft and try to find a damper 216x63mm (that not is easy to find), instead of the orginal 210x55 damper. Then you have a Enduro instead of a Trail bike, without a massiv over weight😋

@Kev2Bee Ай бұрын

Aren’t all batteries removable? 😂 Frames would have a battery inserted prior to the motor being installed. It’s a bother to remove them but they are not ‘ permanently’ installed. I have a 540w battery in my 30/60/85nM Ep801. This gives me +3hrs of boosted ride time. By the time I have done 3hrs of enduro rides I’m dead too.

@MBRmagazine Ай бұрын

I think you know what we mean! Maybe a better term would be quick-release.

@link6032 6 ай бұрын

I think the rub here is it depends what the manufacturer says intended use for the bike is, if the bike is sold as a XC ebike then smaller brakes, shorter travel suspension, lighter components etc all make sense, if you are buying it for what it's intended then no foul, the incinuation here is that all ebikes are for harder. hitting riding and these lighter bikes are a compromise. Not so if it's used as intended, lighter trail/XC riding then it's on the money. I have raced XC for years and still ride those sort of trails, so wanted a ebike with the light weight and the component choices all made sense. My bike weighs 17kg all in and it's perfect for what I want it for. I get the feel and fun factor of my race bikes but with the benefits of the ebike !, win win

@kentnilsson9757 3 ай бұрын

👍All my five Emtb's has now 170mm Öhlin 36, Fox Factory 36, Rockshox Ultimata 35 forks, they had 140mm - 160mm before. The rear damper has I change from 210x55 to 216x63mm och change the flip-chip. All bikes hav strait through XTR groups wit chort gage and 10-45T casset, 200mm rotors with 4-piston brakes on my havier bikes and 2-piston brakes on my three real light weight Emtb. The all have the same geometry, same XTR clip pedals, same seat, same Newman 750mm handlebars. I bough five range extender that I never use, only one extra 500wh battery fore my first bike. These bikes are so light weight witch no trimbox needed and you often cycling with the bike on the off position (what you don't with a havier Emtb do), that makes you to cycling against the battery range and get fit instead of high speed and get stressed. There is no point to weigh these bikes, just love how easy they are to handle fore a 59 year old guy like my❤️😁

@MBRmagazine 3 ай бұрын

Five e-bikes? Fair play! 🫡

@jeanmarc_in_Hudson 6 ай бұрын

Great content 👍

@MBRmagazine 6 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙌

6 ай бұрын

We live for the day long travel full powered Emtbs with at least 750 battery will weigh under 20kg!

@ThunderStruckMTB 6 ай бұрын

Really liking your new round table style videos!

@MBRmagazine 6 ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

@andresamson8859 6 ай бұрын

All trail/enfuro ebikes should have DD casing tire , 4 piston brakes and 700-750wh battery std. The rest is components choice, but these should be a bare minimum. Drivetrain, wheel material, cockpit material, suspension, removeable battery is fair play

@steverichardson4808 6 ай бұрын

If MBR is routinely weighing bikes on test. wouldn't it be a good idea to test ebike motor torque and peak power to see if they match with manufacturers claimed figgers

@MBRmagazine 6 ай бұрын

This is definitely something we’d like to do.

@petersledz67 6 ай бұрын

Weight (without battery)

@steverichardson4808 6 ай бұрын

given all the shenanigans that bike manufacturers get up to for weight saving, its difficult to see why there still supplying bikes with unnecessarily long and heavier crank arms. I've gone from 170 to 150 on my ebike, giving more ground clearance and finding spinning at higher cadence is easier.

@andymoss4285 6 ай бұрын

2025 bikes are all coming with 50mm cranks 😂

@10100110101 27 күн бұрын

@@andymoss4285No cranks and a throttle for 2026

@bikespike711 6 ай бұрын

The real question though is at what weight does the eBike lose its appeal as a bike? I would hazard a guess; over 25kg! My Orbea wild alloy 2023 weighed over 26kg - versus my previous turbo levo 23kg, the ride difference was very noticeable. A heavier bike is harder to manoeuvre, jump, learn skills on, turn, make it stop. Or God forbid landing on you after a spill. If you love bombing down hard core chuntry stuff, get the big, fat bad mother ebike.

@krusch75 6 ай бұрын

Spot on. Could easily shave of almost a kg changing from DH casing tyres to lighter ones. Looks good on paper. But thats about it. I think there should be a standard. Where manufacturers have to use 1200 gram tyre weight in spec sheet. That probably would be an enviromental win also. As fewer would trash new tyres to get more appropiate tyres.

@tristanmayor6302 6 ай бұрын

So sensible, realistic eMtb weights are still >20kg... So pretty much back where we started

@Emtbwebb 6 ай бұрын

Bikes are getting smaller & more expensive really don't make sense 😮 i wont buy into it

@andyarchitect 6 ай бұрын

Great video... more like this please 😊

@sandy_knight 6 ай бұрын

I might be wrong here but I think you missed a classic. A lot of mid-high end bikes don't come with pedals so they don't include them in the claimed weight.

@MBRmagazine 6 ай бұрын

Good shout, but no bikes that we know of are weighed with pedals, so we let them off this one!

@jordanmackay3568 6 ай бұрын

My KSL is 21.3kg. Bike weights are dumb these days. Whatever your bike weighs... Add battery and motor that's it. Simple. Making 170 bikes as light as possible means they aren't fit for purpose

@TheNationalTrails 6 ай бұрын

The bike Industry says, "Are you classified as a biker?" Korben Dallas replies, "Negative, I am a meat popsicle."

@trailpimp6369 6 ай бұрын

Good job dudes. I think full powered e bikes are king. Way more fun and better priced. These super light e bikes are overpriced and not tried and true.

@Twentykixx 6 ай бұрын

The battery size for full power e-bikes IS the main weight contributor. My SC Bullit is perfect with 630wH with DD casings coming in around 22kg fully kitted including pedals… +700wH seems like a joke if you’re worried about weight IMHO. Cheers, great content!