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@rawmancemtb 4 сағат бұрын
So real weight on a 750Wh battery is going to be 23kg and with range extender 24kg. The tradeoff just isn't worth it to have such a small battery and still weighs maybe 21kg. Full power needs full battery. 750Wh minimum. Would prefer 800Wh and a range extender option. Which I guess this bike might have as it is gen 5.
@brianbathgate4944 11 сағат бұрын
Awesome - loving these videos guys - good work!
@MBRmagazine 7 сағат бұрын
Thanks! 🙏
@wolftedd 12 сағат бұрын
IT IS good and what coukd BE better?
@ireland66613 23 сағат бұрын
Just bought used one.
@Shawn-in-da-Canyon Күн бұрын
The bikes should be weighed with the tires that come with them. Otherwise, just strip all the components and just weigh the frame. 🤦🏼♂️
@MBRmagazine 16 сағат бұрын
We weighed them stock and with the control tyres. Plenty of brands put paper-thin tyres on the their SL e-bikes to hit a nice low weight on the scales, but take them onto the trails and the flat at the first sight of a rock. This is one of the reasons for making a load of extra work for ourselves.
@Kal-fc6tr Күн бұрын
Waow beatifull machin bro 🤙🤘
@TimmyBobinson Күн бұрын
Awful video work.
@MBRmagazine Күн бұрын
In fairness, this is 8 years old!
@Meinyukicraft_1 Күн бұрын
@David Bost
@tobyisbister331 Күн бұрын
That’s not an SL.
@samuelperez6009 Күн бұрын
Thanks Vegeta
@octodadmtbmartyrichards2862 2 күн бұрын
Nice selection Why didn’t you do Merida 140 ebike ?
@MBRmagazine Күн бұрын
Good point. The Merida looks like a decent bike.
@trailpimp6369 2 күн бұрын
👊👊🤩
@shnboardman1 2 күн бұрын
Done most of the 7 stanes, brilliant
@4rollingon4 2 күн бұрын
Just makes me wish Whyte hadn't given up developing regular trail and enduro bikes and gone 'all in' on their ebike range. A new T-160 would have been mint, the old one's long in the tooth in terms of appearance even if it rides great
@syncroG60golf 2 күн бұрын
Have to be honest I’d rather have this than the Amflow even if it is a couple of kg heavier.
@dit4963 2 күн бұрын
What a stupid motor + battery combo. At least make the battery removable...so you can have multiple.
@MBRmagazine 2 күн бұрын
That’s kinda the point of the range extender.
@dit4963 2 күн бұрын
@MBRmagazine kinda...different. Price, extra weight, limited capacity...
@rawmancemtb 4 сағат бұрын
@@MBRmagazine Range extender isn't the same unless it can charge while pedaling. Usually range extenders only charge when not pedaling meaning you can only use one at a time. Where as if it's a battery you can just swap it all together.
@gingerb36 2 күн бұрын
Looks fab
@Kev2Bee 2 күн бұрын
Every CX motor and Fox 36 etc weigh the same, every time.. What would this "bike" weigh without the motor or batteries? If you provide details about the specific motor and battery weights we would be able to understand the build intention. The question that remains unanswered is bike weight, over and over again. It's the only way to judge the strength of the build and how it compares. Let's have a spread-sheet with component data or simply state the frame weight.?
@MBRmagazine 2 күн бұрын
It’s a 4.7kg system weight (plus wiring and hardware) so let’s say 5kg. Which makes it a 15.8kg bike with 140mm travel (less the weight of a bottom bracket). I’d have to check but it’s probably category 4 rated.
@tom-c1j2p 2 күн бұрын
MTB DEAD
@tom-c1j2p 2 күн бұрын
i have a trek Roscoe 7 because i got it for FREE FROM A GUY in perfect condition or i NEVER thought of having one, needed a $20 shifter and upgraded $100 BUCKS COST.....i put on a royal Italian comfy seat and nicer grips and aluminum peddles and a riser on and use it as a CASUAL CRUISER ....HEY IT WAS FREE....! I have tons of trails and quiet safe tourist places to putts around for casual EXERCISE.....
@trailpimp6369 2 күн бұрын
Well done Al. What a bike and Sam is such a legend. We had Whyte here in the US for a while and I love this brand.👊👊
@trailpimp6369 2 күн бұрын
Hell yeah legendary brand. What a bike👊👊
@finbox1000 3 күн бұрын
Great work and information as always! Any idea if Bosch`s new 600wh battery can be fitted?
@MBRmagazine 3 күн бұрын
Thanks! No the 600wh won’t fit.
@TAZMON20 3 күн бұрын
So two batteries to charge, I simply couldn't be bothered, or I could have been with a Bosch 600wh batter plus the range extender, now that would be a worthy combination, as it is, no thanks.
@andymoss4285 3 күн бұрын
What does SL actually mean, Short lived ? Is a 400wh battery going to last 90minutes in Redlands at full power? Or are you going to have to constantly manage it? This bike vs the classic e160 full fat, which would you buy as your first e-bike, especially given the price difference….
@MBRmagazine 3 күн бұрын
Ha! Obviously this bike isn’t going to be for everyone, but the decision to ship the bike with the range extender makes a lot of sense. 650wh potential capacity with the new CX motor is still a great proposition.
@andymoss4285 3 күн бұрын
@@MBRmagazine any idea where these will be available to demo?
@MBRmagazine 3 күн бұрын
Sorry not sure. Give your local Whyte dealer a shout.
@p199a 3 күн бұрын
great review thanks for posting all specs in bio so i can check them fast
@golfie1v 3 күн бұрын
I see Sam dosnt have that god awful Whyte. Emblem on the front of his bike?! Can you ask him how I take mine off please as I really don’t like it! Thanks.
@ragged9242 3 күн бұрын
Tune down the Orbea Rise to 60nm and it will smoke every bike there
@MBRmagazine 3 күн бұрын
I get your point, but equally tune down the Cannondale and it will smoke every other bike there.
@rockhopper70 3 күн бұрын
Go on, how much?
@MBRmagazine 3 күн бұрын
£££
@reddofly 3 күн бұрын
According to the Whyte bike site, £9,999.
@MBRmagazine 3 күн бұрын
And £7,250 for the lower spec. Both get range extenders included.
@rockhopper70 3 күн бұрын
@@reddofly £10k, it should ride well.
@Kev2Bee 2 күн бұрын
Buy it next year for -25% as anew bike.
@tonybennett3904 3 күн бұрын
"you could be a politician" oops.
@tonybennett3904 3 күн бұрын
JACKPOT. MBR vid appears.
@EMTB17 3 күн бұрын
Get a full powered eBay stop being a fucking pussy. Be a man. What’s the point of having a fucking E bike if you don’t have full power
@MBRmagazine 3 күн бұрын
Have you ever stopped to think, ‘maybe this isn’t the channel for me?’
@Kev2Bee 2 күн бұрын
@@MBRmagazine That boy should buy a Surrron e-motor cycle.
@jasonanker3120 3 күн бұрын
Why does everyone want to tell me what the range on Boost/Max is? I can do a 2hr ride without a battery. I want to know what i can get in Eco because i want to ride for 4 hours. Where are my max eco ride stats?
@MBRmagazine 3 күн бұрын
This is worst case scenario. And we’d need a week to range test all the bikes in eco! 😂 If you’re paying we’ll do it!
@jasonanker3120 3 күн бұрын
Ha! Nice one. Great vid nonetheless.
@MBRmagazine 3 күн бұрын
Cheers!
@kentnilsson9757 3 күн бұрын
👉A real nice, good looking, well thought out bike👌
@kentnilsson9757 3 күн бұрын
👉I love❤️ My Total rebuilt Orbea Rise, DT swiss 1200 mullet bike, all in Carbon. With a Öhlin RXF36 170mm fork, a Fox Factory 216x63mm DHX2 coil damper, XTR groups all through and without the 1,5 kg range extender, it weight 19,75 kg. The motor is the Shimano EP8 60Nm RS modell (witchis enoughfor me, but would be nice (if it's possible) to try to change the softwaer or the engine to a real full power motor😂😂😂😂
@kentnilsson9757 3 күн бұрын
👍But you can do it range extender lighter, to maby 20 kg😋🤔. That's nice with this better option, than having a ONE havier 800wh battery😂
@jeanmarc_in_Hudson 3 күн бұрын
The end of mid-powered e-mtbs? Battery, tires, wheels, components all weight the same, only real difference is the motor. Great bike! 👍
@tonucaferran2882 3 күн бұрын
Realy, is a white, is canyon copy
@MBRmagazine 3 күн бұрын
And the Canyon is a Specialized copy! So?!
@tonucaferran2882 3 күн бұрын
Who was first, chicken or egg? 🤷♂️😅🥚🐓🥚🐓🥚🐓🥚🐓🥚
@MBRmagazine 3 күн бұрын
In this case, the Specialized! 😂
@davefreeman9347 3 күн бұрын
Now your talking, look at that colour also 👌great job Whyte 👏
@alexbiketester 3 күн бұрын
wear a fullface with sketchy riding like that....
@MBRmagazine 3 күн бұрын
Speak for yourself! Hope you’re feeling better
@link6032 3 күн бұрын
That's Def not SL weight !, SL is really below 19kg, over 20/21 is just normal full power 🤷🏻
@Mockle07 3 күн бұрын
That’s with heavy tyres, pedals and the range extender though. The full and SL bikes have been getting closer and closer and I don’t think it’s as simple as being one or the other now. I don’t think Whyte are really pushing this as an “SL” to be honest.
@MBRmagazine 3 күн бұрын
Thing is there’s no definition. It’s all over the shop.
@Alex_Abdullayev 3 күн бұрын
Agreed! my Cannondale moterra SL is 46lbs with DD front and rear tires with cushcore and I don't consider it SL at that weight. My wife's Levo SL is 41 lbs which is more what I consider SL as my enduro/bike park bike is 39lbs, so her Levo SL is almost he same weight as a nicely kitted enduro rig. 49lbs for the Whyte with a 400wh battery doesn't seem all that SL to me either 🤷🏻♂️
@MBRmagazine 3 күн бұрын
I guess, just as conventional bike weights creep up, so do ebike weights. I know what I’d rather pedal around between a 17kg Enduro bike and a 20kg ebike though! 😂
@jordanmackay3568 Күн бұрын
You sir are uneducated. I have a kenevo SL and it weighs 21kg. Bikes weights are a sham. Big travel requires strong parts and dh tires.
@Mockle07 3 күн бұрын
If that was a fully modular, removable internal battery with 400 or 625 options and the range extender, that may well be peak EMTB trail bike right now. As it is it’s still a compelling option - I don’t understand why ANYONE would buy the SX version other than price, given the great discounts on the older SX-equipped model right now. It’s a shame the Bosch battery architecture means you can’t drain the extender then remove it for when you are doing laps like you can with the TQ or Specialized, it seems a real miss to have to run them in a combined system. Great real world video too 👍🏻
@MBRmagazine 3 күн бұрын
Cheers! With regards the range extender, other systems that let you drain it first give noticeably less power than combined systems.
@Mockle07 3 күн бұрын
@ I had heard that but never really had it explained. If you don’t have a range extender on a Levo SL for example, you get full power so are you saying that adding a range extender reduces available torque/power or are you talking about range? Presumably the latter, so the Bosch system is just a more efficient combined system? Either way, yet another compromise one way or another I guess - neither are a deal breaker for me, just annoyances. Like I said recently, we are so close to the perfect sweet spot it’s just spread across three or four bikes! 😂
@jonnyboardman1650 3 күн бұрын
Can you run a second range extender on its own after the other 2 have gone flat
@darrenjones3681 2 күн бұрын
Please do an entry level budget but capable group test for non extreme newcomers as nobody ever dose this and just feature plus z4k bikes all the time which is more than most people’s cars are worth
@MBRmagazine 2 күн бұрын
Adding the range extender to the Levo SL won’t reduce power while you’re using the internal battery, but it will while using the range extender exclusively. Hope that makes sense?
@nabiltriaki8890 3 күн бұрын
Nahhh there is no way XD 😂😂😂😂😂. O got my first bike ever this week. I learned how to adjust the limit screws did it on front and back derailleur then noticed the chain was inclined a little and little loose. Took me to your video. 🙆 I'm running home now after work hope it's just this😅
@kinaceman 4 күн бұрын
no amflow?
@MBRmagazine 4 күн бұрын
As we mentioned in some other comments, the Amflow only out half way through the test. But we’ve received our test bike now and we’re going to put it up against the winner 👍
@kinaceman 4 күн бұрын
I'm torn between the Heckler SL and the Amflow.
@EMTB17 4 күн бұрын
Super light bikes are a fucking complete disgrace. Just get yourself a full power bike and be a fucking man and not a big fucking pussy.
@ex3dy813 4 күн бұрын
I ride 3am with my dogs through my local woods every morning. I’m currently running a £25 light from Amazon which is actually good for the price however I’m wanting a much brighter one so looking at getting the exposure 14 Diablo for my helmet and the raveman xr6000 for my bars.
4 күн бұрын
Too many car loving a55 kissers inn the comments as cyclists i luv to own them.😊
@LukeJenkin-to6yu 4 күн бұрын
Kenevo sl for me 10/10 . After riding a full power 26kg tank for 2 years the kenevo brings back everything I missed about mountain biking
@Lenali09876 4 күн бұрын
In your video, you said Moterra got 35.82km of riding, but in the description it only had 31km?
@MBRmagazine 4 күн бұрын
31km is the correct distance 👍
@Fred_Clements 5 күн бұрын
Tip = Use as intended