13 Easy Travel Trailers with NO SLIDE OUTS!!

[@edsmith7590]

We bought our no slide Go Play 26 BH a couple of weeks ago and couldn't be happier. Our first indication of a major issue with our previous camper was a malfunctioning slide. That was it! Back to a no slide for us. We love the classic layout of the 26 BH, ;a "couples" camper for grandparents accommodating an occasional visit from our grandson.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I really do like that 26BH..

[@jeffwise6575]

A No Slide with a loft, now that’s “Amazing” That one is on my watch list. As usual Josh Thank You for these No Slide episodes.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@jeffheredia6523]

I believe RV dealerships need to be held accountable for any problems when customers buy from a dealership. It should be the dealership is accountable for those new RVs so that the consumer doesn't lose their assets

[@ringonzar]

Consumer shouldn't have to fight with manufacturer or there subcontractors

[@roberthopkins2494]

I disagree. It's the manufacturers who are putting crap on the market. They are the ones who need to be held accountable and responsible for their failure to put out quality products. What you're suggesting, would be like me buying your car then holding you responsible when it catches fire because someone at the factory crossed some wires that caused an electrical short.

[@didibolter9362]

I agree with you 💯 % jeff!!!

[@texillini1]

Consumers need to do their research. Rent FIRST before buying. Don’t buy into the commercials that advertises a very affordable monthly payment or the huge American flag 🇺🇸 on a pole. Take their time to buy. So what if someone else buys the camper that they were interested in. They’ll make another. Research to find your second camper the first time around. The manufacturers need to change their warranty work model and copy the auto industry. Let people be able to take their camper to any dealer that carries that brand for service for repair work. Dealers need to be honest every step throughout the sales process and try and scam the consumer. Basically it is a three way partnership. If everyone is honest and does the right thing then in theory there will be no problems.

[@betterwithrum]

Agreed but a good number of manufacturers and suppliers need to get their act together and build them better (without rum!).

[@user-dc2bc8rr9p]

I’m a little sad the Arctic Fox 22G and Nash 17K didn’t make the cut. Thank you again Josh.

[@diann546]

I wish Outdoors RV, Lance, and Northwoods would sell this side of the Mississippi. They are what I am interested in. Unfortunately, it is not easy to see one. I got to see my all time favorite finally, when in Alaska, last year. I have been told they wouldn't be able to handle more sales, because of how they operate. That is why the don't sell to us in the east.

[@angie-xy5sf]

@@diann546 sell some n of austin at princess rv

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Good rigs - I just lack updated footage of them

[@carolynschafer5252]

@@JoshtheRVNerdI’d love to see a comparison of those two!

[@jeffdiggs6318]

Love the unspoken Night of the Living Dead waking into Bish's, behind his back, at the end of the video!!! 😂

[@wmschooley1234]

Josh: You’ve just scored a perfect 13 for 13 100% with the wife and I. What a wonderful collection; an expertly curated baker’s dozen of GREAT trailers. This is definitely a resource for people seeking a quick overview of what’s available in no slide trailers. Thank you. Respectfully, W.S.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thank you kindly!

[@boondockduane]

Check out a InTech Aucta 26’ (Terra Oasis) We owned two InTech’s and they are a superior build even when compared to our new Brinkley Best travel trailer without slides

[@aarone9454]

We purchased our first camper in late December. We bought a GD Imagine XLS 21BHE. It has been great for us so far.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

That is awesome! Good pick

[@linkfloyd4908]

Josh 🧐 !! I see a RW Mini Lite in the thumbnail, thought you might announce a no slide option to their lineup. Sigh... I think if RW would do their version of the Imagine XLS 21BHE, it would move near the top of their sales.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

They used to have a few.. wish they’d bring them back

[@surpriseitsus9622]

You are the best. When its time for my husband and I to start our travel adventures, we are flying up to you.❤

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Sounds great!

[@elftreehug]

I love these kind of quick peaks and quick reminder videos!

[@GaryBrownrigg]

While I'm not in the market for a "no slide" model, that was fun to watch! Great work, Josh! #Nerdherd! 🇨🇦

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty Gary

[@texillini1]

Hey Uncle Josh, another great video. May I offer a suggestion for a future video to be aired during the month of September? September is National Preparedness Month. This is the month set aside by FEMA, states, and local governments to educate the public on surviving during a disaster or some type of emergency. When SHTF, government agencies and services can be overwhelmed and services may not be readily available. People need to learn how to take care of themselves for the first 72 hours. One thing that you need is shelter. RV owners have an advantage during any “bug out” situation, that is, you have your housing already. It’s just a matter of finding a place to set it up, having the fuel needed to cook or run the utilities. This is important and something that the average Joe six pack doesn’t consider. I’m the President of my town and every day during the month of September I publish tips, ideas, and suggestions from a variety of sources to educate the public. I offer this suggestion to give you time to create a video which may increase sales for Bish’s. Surely you sell a camper that would meet the need for most people in this regard.

[@Jonnydeerhunter]

Thanks for your hard work on this awesome content, Josh!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

My pleasure!

[@ymbmom]

We have a wolf pup and love it❤Thank you Josh

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

My pleasure!

[@limiwa]

Ok the slide-outs bit genuinely made me LOL 😂

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

😊

[@kennethrichard5395]

Oh buddy, a whole video of no slide tandem axle trailers!!!!!!!!!, camping the way it was meant to be, road mode easy tow,& set up!!! just get where your going and have fun!. that rack on the back of the grey wolf should be standard on everything , thanks

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Right on. Enjoy 😃

[@rrrhhh8167]

We were no slide when no slide wasn't cool.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

👍🏻

[@samebert4344]

As always on your lists, you put together my favorites and even though I'm looking for new suggestions to check out, I just fall more in love with the models you show off! I don't remember the model number to the bigger one but the 16ml and it's big brother are some really awesome models and I'm already seeing other manufacturers put out their spin on a "tiny home"-esque RV. I do wish the bigger one did the same thing as the 16 though, I want the "master" to be in the loft instead of on the ground floor. Then use the extra length to expand the living and kitchen spaces. I get what they did but when you look at tiny homes, the beds are in lofts due to the amount of square footage a bedroom takes up and what you could do with that space instead of dedicating it specifically to sleeping. Very excited to see what is to come from this idea!

[@applejacks971]

I like these compilation video's, very helpful and informative! Thanks for putting these together for us :)

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Glad you like them!

[@andyshank7379]

Keystone Bullet 1700BH with no slide has been amazing! Perfect family camper after a bad experience with a Wolf Pup w/a slide that failed every other trip. I am another RVer that will have major trust issues with slides.

[@angie-xy5sf]

keystone. not for me. happy you like it

[@andyshank7379]

The RV industry as a whole is a mess for quality. Iv had good luck with mine so far.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Glad it’s treating you well!

[@josephstagg1052]

Thanks for the 204 RD shoutout. Wish I could get out in mine more often😎

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

You bet

[@Maxible]

YESSSS! TEAM NO SLIDES! Thank you for this video. Love this content so much, please keep making a new one every year or so. Thank you!! I wish someone would make a decent no-slide fifth wheel. :(

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

You’re not the first to ask

[@pelin2562]

The Freedom Express 22SE is intriguing. The bench dinette isn't pleasantly plump friendly, but could be worked around with our 8yrs old sitting on a stool at the end for eating or sitting at the sofa with a stowaway table later on. The bunks are great being double-sized and the true queen is helpful for us. The window coverings are great too. I didn't see in this shorter video, but what kind of A/C does it come with? If it's the super noisy kind that's a deal breaker. Appreciate these videos Josh! Really helping us to narrow down what we'd like for a family travel trailer.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Mfgs change air units now and then and I just can’t remember what they all use really

[@suzanneschaefer9123]

I really like the AmerLite 199RK floorplan but would love to see other manufacturers put their spin on it.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Zinger has one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIGyaoN5qsmJbZI Springdale/Hideout used to as well. Not sure if they do still

[@MrMoser18]

For those that like the Jayco 212QB (over the 210QB), you can still get it this year, but it is being discontinued after this year. I just picked mine up 2 weeks ago. Been eye balling this trailer for the last 1.5 yrs. Was going to wait until next year, but learned it was on the chopping block because it was a bit too much money for being the entry model to the Jay Flight line. I didn’t care for the lack of features on the 210QB and the older looking corrugated aluminum on the nose.

[@suzannas.4965]

FREEDOM EXPRESS: LOVE front closet - a must have. I prefer no slide. Not sure if the dining booth has storage but I would make it half booth-half chairs. ALSO, I would get rid of the stove and have a portable 2 burner cooktop that is hidden in the top drawer OR have a recessed down cooktop that has cover to match the counter to make a longer useable counter.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Love the ideas. Ty

[@user-ju9cv9pr6f]

Great video

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

TY!

[@Erin-Thor]

I love several of these. But the $82k MSRP of the Ember 240TKR seems awfully high. Love it! If it had a 30”x36” shower it just might be perfect!

[@user-uw9df9nc3h]

Love all these types of videos you do Neeerd I'd love to see one on the pop up campers Keep up the fantastic and informative videos Josh

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Will do!

[@MrRasctwa]

I with Mr Scoolly... Love the Ember 240. Great CCC over 3k lbs and 81 g fresh H2O is ticking off all my boxes I wonder how their plumbing is eg using a straight pipe clamp on a flex pipes cause slow leaks after the warranty expires..... Thank you for introducing me to Ember, Mr J.

[@gregd4391]

Great video. Very informative.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

TY Greg

[@richrico9783]

Definitely introduced another option for us to think about Josh. Thnx much.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Which one caught your eye?

[@richrico9783]

@@JoshtheRVNerd the first one. Looked spacious and light to tow with our ford expedition max.

[@craigdrummer13204]

Thanks again really great information had a bit of everything!!!

[@charlenecastaldo3602]

Thanks friend! Enjoy your summer.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thanks, you too!

[@ronaldbean3308]

Wish Winnebago Micro Minnie came in a no-slide configuration. Also, wish more RVs were pet-friendly. Our dogs are seat-belted with harnesses in the vehicle.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

They have several no slide models btw

[@jeffheredia6523]

Question....do you as a dealership do inspections before you buy and sale

[@marybourgeois5235]

Get an INDEPENDENT Inspection . Tell whomever your buying from your going to have a Inspector check out the RV you've chosen. Some dealers say NO! If they do......RUN!

[@jeffheredia6523]

@@marybourgeois5235 I concur

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

We have an internal PDI but I am a proponent of having 3rd party inspections. We do allow for that btw

[@stevez340]

A NO SLIDE CAMPER MEANS MORE CCC👍which means manufacturers can and should add a standard ladder💥solar💥Goodyear tires💥a comfortable sofa or theater seating “option”💥a “true queen” bed💥a “porcelain” toilet💥a “shower door”💥and a “quality” bathroom fan💥for a “minimal” additional cost💥💥💥

[@JessicaEngle-l1o]

Thanks Nerd!! Great content with the list.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

My pleasure!

[@ShawnPatterson402]

We have a slide now, but our two previous trailers did not. So far so good with the slide. Over 20,000 miles and over 250 nights, but I still get nervous every time we slide it in or out...continued safe travels.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Glad it’s treating you well!

[@JOHN061656]

Wow no problems with a slide?! Would you mind replying with the model info please? I'd like to research that one

[@ShawnPatterson402]

@@JOHN061656 Cougar 26RBS. Sitting in the slide right now having breakfast :)

[@JOHN061656]

@@ShawnPatterson402 thank you for your reply. Have a great day! 😉

[@jimtaylor1033]

I have done a lot of looking and wztch most of what you produce. Does ANYONE still build a front U dinette? I find side dinettes cramped unless they are in a super slide. One other thing to pass on since you have some clout. If a camper sleeps 6 needs to seat 6 for dinner. I have toured trailers that sleep 8 and have a tiny cramped dinette lucky to seat 4. I have owned a wilderness with TWO U dinettes. Sleep 6 seat 7 or 8. A Fan she was a BEAST 24ft 10,000 lb front U dinette center bunks. Sleep six seat 6. I installed a removable table between bunks for kids sleep 6 seat 10. Thanks for your time I appreciate what you do.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I feel like SOMEONE does a front u.. Freedom express 298fds maybe?

[@robertkorona9867]

MR. SCHOOLEY IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. THE LAST THING I WANT OR NEED, IS BIG HOLE IN THE SIDE OF MY HOUSE. SORRY SIR IF I SPELLED YOUR NAME WRONG.

[@angie-xy5sf]

haha yep. slide skeptic but tiny cable pulls out heavy weight box! every person i know has some kind of water coming from slide

[@betterwithrum]

26BH go play… pretty darn close to perfect! Like to see it bump up to aluminum from wood construction.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

It’s weird nearly no brand builds that layout in a laminated rv

[@betterwithrum]

@@JoshtheRVNerd oh that's interesting! I wonder if it's the target price and buyer. It's too bad because it's a great layout. We looked at a used 2018 Jayco version while shopping last year, but it was horribly run down.

[@brownmutthid]

I would love to see someone come out with a laminated 29-30ft bunkhouse...so a 26BH'ish...aluminum framed walls...Azdel. For some reason you can only get that floor plan in a stick and tin. Yeah...i know Jayco and sister brands have a hung fiberglass version but i want full on laminated. Please get the word out Josh!

[@user-yc1ex8xg3d]

Hello Josh: Thanks for all the great videos packed with useful information.Question regarding the new tankless water heaters. I live in Canada and really enjoy early and late season camping when the temperatures are very close to 32 degrees fahrenheit. We always camp in provincial parks where there are no water hook ups so the tank is filled with water and it quickly cools down to the outdoor temperature. I have heard that these heaters are only capable of raising the temperature of the water from the tank by 50 or 60 degrees. If the tank water is 70 degrees to start with that is no problem, however up here in the frozen north if my tank water is sitting at 35 degrees adding 60 degrees makes for a very cold shower. Can you tell me if this is the case or are you able to adjust the output temperature. Probably not the most appropriate question for a video that is primarily focused on trailers with no slides, but enquiring minds need to know! Thanks very much

[@TheBronzeGlow]

No slide outs ❤

[@user-un3ny2ii3k]

Looked at a 212qb vs a 20rdse at an rv show and bought the latter. The 2012qb feels so much smaller in the back because of the set up. Wish they would keep the sofa and eliminate the dinette, instead extending the counter top all the way to the back of the trailer and adding two bar stools.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

That would be fantastic I think

[@bobthiele7737]

Love the quick reviews of the same primary group (Couples, 5th wheels, bunk house...). Great way to start looking. Can you do one with true outdoor kitchens (a real sink and fridge)?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Man there’s so few of those anymore.. used to be so common

[@diann546]

Thanks Josh!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

You bet!

[@COMMANDER-ONE]

33:35 I was watching a nature documentary and learned what an ibex is. If you haven’t seen what they do you really need to check it out 😆 hint: it’s not just a camper. Thanks nerd.!!!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Well you didn’t have to “ram” that info down our throats 😆

[@DerekFrampton]

I thought "I" was the original slide skeptic. I call BS. 😂

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

😆

[@cesarcarbajal3621]

Hi Josh Does go play or any other brand have a lay out like the 2024 Jayco flight 274bh I’m looking for something exactly like that

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

That was largely copied from a transcend 247bh layout That has recently changed and become a 24bhx you can see here m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpaZla1-jJqJeck

[@DGisHere2020]

I really like the Jayco 210QB, but would like to see it flipped. Dinette in the front with a front window, and the bed on the back. I like the Gray Wolf 20RDSE too, but would like to see it flipped also.

[@boondockduane]

InTech Aucta (Terra Oasis) is the best non-slide travel trailer made

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I've never had the pleasure of going thru them. I think we feature them at our Salt Lake store but I don't get out that way with regularity

[@boondockduane]

@@JoshtheRVNerd we loved both our InTech’s just needed the bigger RV full time, we did a short stint full time waiting for our Brinkley. We miss the InTech often. If you get a chance check it out

[@sneidsontheroad]

Im surprised dealerships are still standing by Ember. I have ZERO experience with them but the amount of people experiencing leaking inside the campers is super uncommon. I never hear that about any other popular manufacturers.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

If you knew the full history there, then you may understand why Majority of those reports stem from the 2022 models. Specifically related to an oversight in slide design Ember put out a recall to their dealers. Have them instructions on how to repair. Dealers just had to request parts and apply on affected units Vast majority of dealers never did anything. They sold known defects and then let the mfg take the heat In 2023 models their records improved greatly And again for 24’s Overland and touring are currently performing well overall

[@sneidsontheroad]

@@JoshtheRVNerd Wow...thank you sir for the insight. This is extremely good info. I will be keeping a close eye on the brand bc the concept is outstanding. Scary to see what they went through in 2022 and glad they are bouncing back as some don't after a fiasco like that. Thanks as ALWAYS Josh!

[@myrandabrown]

Really enjoyed this one. Thanks Josh.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@mazzizmotoring1117]

Love your videos! Any idea what the weight limit might be when the dinette in the Coachmen Freedom Express 20SE is turned down into a bed?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Apologies I never really got data on that

[@rickkiersey4553]

You started with the best first! I'm curious if it is a true queen bed.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I don’t believe it is. It’s been a hot minute since I went thru but I usually touch on bed sizes in my full vids

[@user-lm5sk9sc1h]

I would make the rifle locker look like a clothes closet that has a wood door and medal door that both door have locks on them, and put the back of the locker against the refrigerator and a, one side of this locker against a the bathroom and what ever side is on the out side wall I would put more insulation on that wall and a piece of sheet steel about 1/4 inch thick on the outside wall that is inside of that wall so you could not drill into the rifle locker.

[@COMMANDER-ONE]

34:28 the way they painted the coil Springs looks kinda cool. Not sure if it helps the RV jump higher or not. But I really like these Ibex! 😮

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

lol makes it sound like a pair of jordans

[@Patricksmancave]

Thank you josh!!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Any time!

[@sniggyflu]

Josh, RV industry question for you. Can a Forest River RV dealer order any brand of RV made by FR? To give an example, can Bish's RV order a No Boundaries NB16.1 even though they do not normally stock any new No Boundaries RVs?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Great question. Different companies have different structures Jayco and grand design for instance are like an all or nothing thing With Keystone, forest river, many others you pick the brands you want but can’t get the others

[@kenp9469]

Ember takes first place. It is perfect. Second would be Ibex. Third Play and Go. Especially when you consider the price.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thx Ken!

[@djfitzgerald2193]

Hay Josh just for fun and to stir the pot have you put together a list of trailers that are twin to king beds? granted it will be a short list but for the folks that sometimes do buddy camping or just taking your kid but don't want to do the creepy sleeping thing

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I haven’t but man that’s a short list

[@Paul_0216]

Have you seen the Timberwolf 20OG yet? I would love to see an honest walkthrough on one of these. The only one I've seen was by a Rep I think, I trust your videos for seeing the plusses and minuses of units honestly not from a manufacturer rep.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

sadly I have not. at a glance it looks better than the 16ML for my money

[@Paul_0216]

@@JoshtheRVNerd I have noticed over the last few weeks a bunch of the same style.

[@lesliewan1242]

Love the Vibe, is that hitch weight really 680 lb?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah Murphy beds are a little heavier on the nose due to adding the sofa

[@claymontgomery3168]

This video was worth it for 16:52 clip

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

😆

[@icare7151]

❤Also a fan of NO SLIDE-OUTS!

[@reneglenney2511]

How long is the garage in the Ember?

[@juanbarajas5376]

I know this is the wrong video to ask, but I want to see a video of the Salem fsx 191ss. I can’t find any videos out there. Even on the web, I only see manufacturers pics.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

No vid is the wrong vid. That might be new. I’ll watch for it

[@gnewtomorrow3014]

Left off Intech Willow too.

[@chrisspaulding4448]

Thought you was based outta dfw?!! Did you change dealer ships??

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Nope. I’ve always been in southern Michigan.

[@jasonlander3634]

Like no slides, thanks Josh

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

You bet

[@user-lm5sk9sc1h]

I am looking for a trailer for a single person that has rifle so I would like a 4 rifle locker in the camper. And all the sewage and the water pipes tucked up in the floor and the trail be insulated for deep winter camping or taking hunting.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I appreciate your focus on safety and security

[@winchcable2282]

Hello Josh, hi can you make a toy hualer list too please.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I’ll see what I can do

[@winchcable2282]

@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you Josh! your the man!

[@user-lm5sk9sc1h]

I would the rifle locker near or in the area where the adults or the coulpe will sleep.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

For sure. Ty Maybe a WD closet?

[@Cowboy47]

#RVNerdHerd 🎉 😊 🎉

[@angie-xy5sf]

dont see how they put refrigerator on slideout. that slide out cable is so skinny. then refrigerator wont cool because too hot

[@ronaldbean3308]

Oops! Concerning quality. At my age, I am looking at a topper truck camper. Have had 5 trailers/motorhomes. Cannot put as much time into repair and costs as I used to (retired). Wish someone made a camper that was actually made so the headaches would be at a minimum.

[@angie-xy5sf]

wow lot is full of

[@chrisspaulding4448]

The dinette, is a wast of space

[@将軍九八.彁]

Prime Time Avenger LE 22mkle

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I’ll watch for one

[@DrMott]

Slideouts like most of the parts on these cheaply built Indiana campers are completely unreliable.

[@Mike-te1xx]

No Intec?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I’ve simply never really had the pleasure of going thru them in any detail. They’d likely earn an entry for sure

[@slamboy66]

I am a JAYCO fanboy. The Grey Wolf 20RDSE got me with U-dinette, 3397# pay load and looks over the Jay Flight 210QB 👍 Come on JAYCO.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Those two models are always in a fist fight with one another

[@icare7151]

Ember please update all models with ABS disc brakes.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I'm not sure that's compatible with their independent suspension..

[@icare7151]

@@JoshtheRVNerd Get on it Josh and engineer it my very well skilled and talented friend. Morning with Josh is a staple in my early morning routine!

[@laura7053]

🎉#NerdHerd

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

😃

[@z3roviruz113]

No slides!!!!

[@jefferylemieux7843]

Instead of a slide- out, I would just get a longer trailer.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

No slide rvs usually stop about 3ft total - and that’s bunkhouses. No slide couples rvs often stop shorter Not sure if those ranges work for you

[@Tobynsocks]

I don't know if you have access to the KZ connect series but there are two that are of similar designs that really stand out with what looks like build quality obviously you can't tell until you touch it but just an overall classy interior and a great design. Would love to get your thoughts on it. Connect se c221rese and c241rese

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I’d really like to go thru those

[@Tobynsocks]

@@JoshtheRVNerd I'm a big fan an advocate of vacation napping but for some reason if I sleep in the bed I'll sleep way too long and those two I was talking about seem like a great setup. I appreciate the way you try to get everything . We all do