13 new Supercharger sites in the UK! None of them owned by Tesla! What is going on?

[@Red_Snappa]

Still waiting to make the jump to our first EV and gathering all the info on them I can get beforehand. The reviews I've seen on the newer Teslas is putting me off them now tbh. They're taking minimalism to the extreme, and now with the lack of stalks as well, and as with a lot of EV's on videos I've watched...you have to constantly take your eyes off the road to adjust almost everything. Surely a big safety implication...

[@D0DG3R]

@@Red_Snappa there's aftermarket parts to add the stalk and extra buttons that look genuine.

[@junehanzawa5165]

@@Red_Snappa On Teslas you can speak to it and it does what you asked it to do. No need to take your eyes off the road. Some others have similar voice command features, but not nearly as comprehensive.

[@grahamleiper1538]

Worst is turning fog lights on. Wipers can be a pain, but much improved. (Not the automatic operation, but can set speed manually if it's playing up using left hand steering wheel nub since last year) Climate - I literally just leave on auto. Not an issue. Voice control - not a panacea. Relies on having data connection (not ubiquitous), and struggles with my Scottish accent. Hopefully German legislation about physical controls means juniper update of the Y retains the stalks - if it does they may come back to the 3. Don't think their removal is helping sales anyway. There's a lot of stuff that Tesla do brilliantly, better than anyone else, they're far and away the easiest EV to cross Europe in. Other cars can charge faster, but those faster 800V chargers are few and far between and way more expensive. Then there are things where they just refuse to listen. Long term - they may even be right to not listen. Don't know though. Just think there aren't many roundabouts in California (or presumably much fog).

[@Red_Snappa]

@@junehanzawa5165 I've yet to come across ANY voice recognition software that can consistently decipher my strong regional dialect... by the time it's actually got what I'm asking it to do, I'd either have missed my turning, arrived at my destination still in cold car, or something similar 😁

[@justgetatesla]

If you want an ocean of randomly placed buttons for functions, other manufacturers are available. I’ve never understood why learning random button placement is good, and stick it all on a screen is bad

[@TeslaAdventurer]

Tesla SCN is the best, no other offering comes close for ease of use and price! I did euro road trip in summer and not once did i have to wait. the cost was cheaper than the uk & there were even barrier controlled and tesla only waiting/cafe/toilet areas where the entry code is on the charger page to allow you to get in. many were in/near hotels so no security issues either. Another great Vid ; )

[@silverarrow7]

I would love to see more Superchargers pop up in Wales - the map looks extremely patchy at the moment and if this helps fill in the gaps, then I’m all for it!

[@CoolmpcVR]

First time Tesla owner, enjoying it so far and managed to get a year free super charging. Just a shame there isn’t any close to my daily commute although have no issues charging cheap rate at home overnight.

[@mikesmith71]

I actually pulled into the very bay you're in there at Macmerry a few days ago after a quick visit to Edinburgh. I must admit that I drove around the site first looking for the Tesla signs 🤭, I recognised the V4s but the penny didn't immediately drop until I checked the app again and noticed the "OTM" bit. Nice location and great to see the price advertised on the main board by the entrance 👍

[@Rockdj3833]

Haven’t read anything further about when Asda will start introducing the Tesla superchargers. Is it still going ahead?

[@justgetatesla]

That may depend on the mechanics of the Asda / EG deal

[@lewismacdonald1047]

I'd love to have lots of Tesla S/Cs, given I have free supercharging, but I also want to see a competitive market as Tesla are not exactly philanthropic! It'd be great to see more e.g. Ionity chargers, especially given their competitive rates on their subscriptions and their embracing of Plug&Charge funtionality (like the way Tesla does 'plug & charge' but with open standards/infrastructure).

[@simonoakley5102]

I'm glad my tesla comes with free charging for life as costs are zero and do drive everywhere just for fun as knowing it's free

[@Notlib]

Prior to the launch of Model 3 in 2019, Tesla supercharger were not CCS. Tesla added a second cable to their Superchargers for CCS…

[@justgetatesla]

I know that. But the connector is a modified Type 2, not NACS

[@MasterChief37]

I prefer the Kempower chargers over the V4, I also like the new Ionity chargers, the tall skinny ones.

[@evinterest6348]

Do they follow the Tesla KWH price structure?

[@Chris-mh3vf]

I charged at that site last week and also used the same supercharger with the broken lock next to the blown down jet wash bay. my question is as they are shown as a Tesla charger on the app will my new model y get the free supercharging at these locations ?

[@justgetatesla]

Yes they’re shown on the map as supercharger open to all, and yes you get your free charging

[@brianhill3603]

Nice to see you on the east coast, better scenery than the M6/74😂 , i fill up my truck there most days on my way back to Berwick and there's always cars charging there , oh and it's always windy there 😂

[@MarkKellyPhotographyUK]

Are the charges at Tesla prices or are they like other 3rd party ones, more expensive?

[@aminmanchester8383]

I saw one near Blackpool charging 60p/Kwh

[@justgetatesla]

A little more expensive than a Tesla supercharger but cheaper than most non-Tesla chargers

[@chrisatkinson1250]

@@justgetatesla Whats "a little more expensive" as a little more expensive per kwh when adding 60kwh makes a big difference...

[@tayne5009]

I’m one of the lucky ones with free supercharging so I’m quite happy with these.

[@pkerry12]

1:09 those floor mats are filthy you need to clean them :D

[@justgetatesla]

It’s WINTER. And they’re rubber. This is what they are designed fir

[@AG-vk9gq]

lol he’s a busy chap

[@justgetatesla]

It’s a working vehicle

[@peterjones6322]

It wasn't on the floor, it was on the ground 😁

[@justgetatesla]

Same

[@Joe-lb8qn]

HI, do these appear in the main screen as an SC and so you could navigate there as any other SC?

[@aminmanchester8383]

Yes, it does show on the navigation as supercharger

[@justgetatesla]

It’s a supercharger!

[@rogerphelps9939]

What is an SC? Ah, a pretentiously named Level 3 C.

[@Joeb4iley]

@@rogerphelps9939 super charger is the brand name given to tesla’s line of dc fast chargers, ABB chargers have the brand name terra chargers, Eaton have green motion chargers. It’s normal for manufacturers to have names for ranges of equipment. What’s super about super chargers? Nothing, but it’s still a super charger.

[@christopherhorner9417]

Where can I find the app or map

[@djtaylorutube]

Tesla app? On the app stores.

[@scottplaysgolf]

Better alternative if you can’t get to a Tesla owned charger. Makes sense for Tesla I’d imagine in the UK it’s a pain to deal with leasing or owning land so they can just supply the hardware and the network and take their cut. Hope it doesn’t slow down their own network though, 65p is still too high and they won’t have control over that pricing. The more people involved, everyone needs their cut and bumps the prices up. Edit: just seen this particular one is 49p which is great news.

[@Tresla]

Still, a hard price to swallow when consumer electricity is 20p/kWh (8.5p/kWh on Octopus Go). I get that they have to make money, but does it really need to be so much? Maybe they shouldn't be unnecessarily installing so many of these rapid chargers.

[@scottplaysgolf]

@ indeed. I’m in Thailand now and the government rate is about 11p and the public chargers are around double that. It’s just corporate greed in the U.K.

[@robertarmstrong3478]

Do EV on the Go get a cut? Is there a dual rate for Tesla vehicles compared to others? Are they more/less expensive than Tesla branded Superchargers? You missed a lot of what I would have liked to see in favour of a rant. Justified rant, Superchargers rule, but try to focus!

[@justgetatesla]

Pricing is still changing - some seem to be set rate, others are variable depending on hours. I don’t think there is a difference non-Tesla to Tesla - at least not yet

[@munro12345]

More expensive than Tesla branded SC near me. EV OTM Nitshill (Glasgow) 65p kWh. 50p kWh is my limit so it’s a no from me at the moment.

[@grahamleiper1538]

​@@munro12345some are less. EV OTM at Portlethen (Aberdeen) show as 49p on the Tesla app. They're not far from the Aberdeen service centre though so would just go there. Better than the SC for non Tesla as SC has V3 tombstones.

[@justgetatesla]

I’ve charged at Tesla units costing more than 50p

[@thornbottle]

whats weird is i want a super fast charging car, but i rarely visit public chargers, probably 4 or 5 times a year. So to me it makes no sense to want a super fast charging car, but I still want one lol

[@VanessaBrackin]

Can anyone advise please? I have the Tesla app but don’t drive a Tesla. I’d like to have a go at using a Tesla Supercharger but not sure which ones are ‘open to all’. Is it the ones that have (EV OTM) and (EV Point) in front of their name that are open to all? If so, why doesn’t Manchester Trafford Centre and Flint Mountain have (EV OTM) in front of their name in the app, as I know that these are open to all? Also, what does OTM in (EV OTM) stand for? Open To M……? Thanks.

[@justgetatesla]

Go onto the Tesla website and have a look www.tesla.com/en_gb/findus?bounds=58.41483334759466%2C1.9820625535156822%2C49.64116869794403%2C-7.466179633984297&filters=open_to_all_evs_superchargers

[@VanessaBrackin]

Many thanks. I will.

[@VanessaBrackin]

Wow! I thought there were only about 15 sites open to all. From your link, it seems that many more have now been opened up. 👍

[@MarkHewitt1978]

I had noticed that place when planning to go to Edinburgh Airport. A real shame they only put in 4. New installs like that should be 8 at a very minimum. It just means I can't rely on going there and getting on a charger, whereas with 8 chances are someome will be coming off soon.

[@mattx4253]

I was thinking of getting a Tesla until I realized their self driving £3400 is dog shit. Unsafe and can’t even follow speed limits

[@davidpearn5925]

@@mattx4253 mine used to suddenly takeoff on ap at exactly the same spot in the nearby town every time. Tesla Australia knew we weren't important enough for silicon valley to bother. We got a loaded RWD BYD Seal subsequently.......for less than the cheapest M3.

[@davidmahan4160]

So, Europe Garages are foreign, but American Tesla are not foreign!!! 🤔

[@justgetatesla]

“Foreign”. As in not-Tesla

[@AG-vk9gq]

Euro garages are not foreign , they were set up by two brothers from Blackburn I believe .

[@PJWey]

@@justgetateslaa foreign idea, to some, perhaps 😅

[@Sp_75-76]

Why would a third party offer free charging, or does Tesla pay the third party? If you have free charging.

[@justgetatesla]

Great question. As Tesla are managing billing they are simply giving free vend as they would do via a SC they own. They’re paying that bill regardless

[@christopherwood9056]

Hmm not sure I like this, hope Tesla are going to keep doing their own chargers with control over fees. Yes we need more EV chargers but the whole reason I have a Tesla is for the reasonable charging fees. Just had a look at Tesla Hartshead Moor Services on M62 and off peak it’s 39p or 49p peak. A mile down the road at the next junction there is an ev on the move at Cleckheaton Services showing as a flat 65p (no off peak that I can see)

[@justgetatesla]

As I understand EG are still experimenting with charging fees. The one I was at was 49p - which is barely more expensive than a Tesla-owned aite

[@JoeHardman]

I read BP is set to purchase $100M worth of Tesla superchargers too so maybe we'll see some of these pop up around the UK soon as well. I expect they'll gladly continue to rip people off at 90p/kWh tho

[@justgetatesla]

I don’t know if BP are getting them in Europe. US definitely

[@Richard-is4bp]

Did wonder what the deal was with those particular SC’s at MacMerry when i took a trip out in my model Y a couple of weeks back(got the car a few weeks back, so get the free SC for a year) Plugged in and happy days, free charging! So I do pop out occasionally for a charge. Pretty quiet site, but getting busier!

[@johnbaker5533]

15 locations at the moment, another 5 built and waiting to be switched on. Several more in planning. EG on the Move planning to up 2 locations a month so more coming in the new year. Tesla manage these too, so do all the maintenance on them so should have the same levels of uptime and reliability. BP in the US only are rolling them out too. Exciting times.

[@justgetatesla]

Very exciting. I’ve used another of their sites since, this one with 10 stalls!

[@AG-vk9gq]

Excellent video as always, I noticed some of these EV branded Tesla superchargers installed at the Matrix near Chorley and wondered what gives. Now I know! I assume I can continue to use my Tesla credits to pay for charging at these chargers if supercharging is still free for eligible Teslas? I did notice that the cost was 65p per KWh so dearer than the Tesla branded superchargers so what will Tesla owners pay?

[@mburgsey14]

Is there a price difference between Tesla users and non-Tesla users (excluding those with free Tesla charging)?

[@justgetatesla]

A small difference at the moment

[@BigALuk33]

Theme tune sounds like Genesis - Invisible touch ❤😂

[@justgetatesla]

Deliberately!!!

[@BigALuk33]

@justgetatesla good choice

[@kevinmair7571]

Yes please.

[@witteveenjeroen]

Are these chargers just as cheap as the Tesla branded Superchargers?

[@djtaylorutube]

Nope, nothing like.

[@justgetatesla]

This was 49p, which is only a few pence more. Different sites charge different amounts. Like superchargers do!

[@detlefhoepfner5869]

There are so many good or even better alternatives today - no need for monopolism

[@justgetatesla]

I’m not proposing monopolism on cars. Charging units? Tesla units are small footprint, universally accessible and high charging speed. There are few charger manufacturers who tick all boxes as an alternative

[@geirmyrvagnes8718]

This didn't answer the question in the title. I get that they are Superchargers for most practical purposes, and that they have a different sticker on them that sort of match the branding of where you buy your coffee and do.. what needs to be done. But how are they different from a Tesla Supercharger? Who is paying whom and how behind the scenes here? Some of these "forecourts" have Tesla branded Superchargers, these have not, so to quote the title: "What is going on?" Eh.Maybe it's just me being nosy.

[@justgetatesla]

It’s a v4 supercharger unit, complete with Tesla branding on the plug. They’re different because they are not owned by Tesla.

[@geirmyrvagnes8718]

@@justgetatesla Yes, but why? To quote every annoying 5-year-old. What's in it for the forecourt, what's in it for Tesla, and how are they dividing up my money between themselves? If they just straight up pay Tesla for the chargers and let Tesla make the money from the electricity, then they are paying a very high price to get some more customers for their snacks and Tesla is laughing and rolling around in the money. Maybe Tesla discounts the price of the chargers? Maybe the forecourt gets a cut of the electricity sales? Maybe third-party chargers that work as well as Superchargers are hideously expensive? (Well, they are.) So expensive that you don't really make the money back from the electricity? So since you are basically paying for the extra foot traffic, why not just give the whole business to Tesla? These sorts of endless questions. Probably without available straight answers. Bonus question: For now, this is only happening in the UK. Will the practice spread, and when?

[@peterworsley]

Yes i noticed that new one on the east side of edinburgh

[@peterworsley]

that makes it better now if you live in the east of edinburgh and low on charge needing to head south on the A1

[@computerbob06]

Surely the V2 SC's were all Tesla connectors only and the Models S's (early ones) are Tesla connectors? V3/4 are CCS2 and are only shown on the app if your car can take them? Don't forget Tesla sold Carbon Credits (which we know to be useless for the environment - allegedly) for billions so that legacy auto could carry on making gas guzzlers, guilt free - which would have paid for said SC network (allegedly)! And, as far as I know, they will hope to do the same, when legacy auto fails to meet it's ZEV mandate in the years to come (allegedly, allegedly)!

[@justgetatesla]

Tesla connector here was a modified type 2

[@sargfowler9603]

Can't have enough chargers!

[@calumthornton1918]

Aren't you missing the fact that the v4 chargers don't do 800v, so can't to the very high charging rates. I would have a look at who owns Ionity, that is how other car manufacturers are rolling out chargers.

[@djtaylorutube]

"currently". Tesla will roll out 1000V cabinets.

[@justgetatesla]

That’s ok Calum. Currently practically every car on the road is 400v

[@bshah4831]

I thought I recognised that site. But unlikely you'd be in the Peak District.

[@justgetatesla]

About to drive through the Peak District now

[@keithdenton8386]

How much do they charge. I bet there not Tesla price.

[@justgetatesla]

This one? 49p. I have paid more than that at Tesla sites

[@keithdenton8386]

@@justgetatesla That's not bad. Does it have the same off peak rates as Tesla.?

[@justgetatesla]

Flat rate at that site

[@roderickmain9697]

Always thought this should be a step that Tesla should take. I was thinking a Blue branded Charge Place Scotland ,,,but hey, I'll take it. As for pricing. Tesla chargers do vary and time of day also plays a part. But the ones Ive used recently have all been around 45p/kWh (+/- a couple of p). For a while I did wonder if Ionity might be doing a useful thing but if your car wasnt one of their "club" of manufacturers then you got charged 89p/kWh. Not looked at them since. If I'm correct, my app says the ones you are using are 49p/kWh so perhaps slightly more expensive but in the Tesla ball park.

[@justgetatesla]

Exactly - 49p is pretty good!

[@MrPindie]

Tesla as the global stadard? 100% YES!!!

[@apete-5211]

Hi Ian. I just ordered a Model Y using your referral code a few days ago. White exterior and black interior just like yours. Cheers!

[@Slynell1]

u get the free 1 year supercharging deal?

[@justgetatesla]

Thanks very much!!!

[@Terry-q7y]

Elon Musk paid for my Tesla such a nice man, he said do you want 2 i said no just 1

[@casperhansen826]

​@@Terry-q7yactually, mine is paid for by Tesla as well, and they even hand me some more dollars to have some fun. Okay, maybe not 100% correct since it is Tesla Stock that pays for my Tesla

[@apete-5211]

@@Slynell1 In the US it was only 3 months free supercharging and 3 months free FSD. Not sure where Tesla was offering 1 year. It'd be sweet to have though.

[@davidpearn5925]

Tesla in Australia (sans stalks) is going to get run over by BYD, Xpeng, MG, GWM on price, quality and those expensive features tesla apparently can't afford anymore (the shareholders are the priority). Tesla needs protection.......and not having a functioning CEO is the real reason.

[@rogerphelps9939]

Why are hese things called supoerchargers? They are just ordinary Level 3 chargers. Super they are not.

[@justgetatesla]

Why are 50kW units called Rapid chargers?

[@roderickmain9697]

What would you consider a "Supercharger"? I mean its mostly marketing hyperbole - thats what Tesla have always called them.

[@djtaylorutube]

I want to be able to filter these out in the navigation. They're higher priced than Tesla owner chargers. Just give us the choice as to which networks to show in the car and when the choice is Tesla, stop showing non Tesla!

[@brianhill3603]

49p per kilowatt at this one.

[@djtaylorutube]

@brianhill3603 Isolated case, I want to filter them out as an option. I don't want the car automatically including them if it now means that every route, I have to manually check each charger to see if it's Tesla or not.

[@justgetatesla]

Ignore any suggested stop at “EV OTM”

[@djtaylorutube]

@justgetatesla Exactly but I want the option in the satnav to be able to exclude these, just like it doesn't use other non Tesla chargers. Currently, they get planned in which means having to manually check each one, which we didn't have to do before.

[@justgetatesla]

It’s not really a manual check - it tells you EV OTM. I already have charging locations I won’t use - Scotch Corner as a prime example. I just set another alternative as a stop and it reroutes

[@mike.n.davies]

What do you mean 'We've never had the Tesla Connector" in the UK?? What do you think Model S and Model X used when first introduced to the UK? Why do those cars need an adaptor to use CCS chargers? What charge plug was on V1 and V2 superchargers? Get your facts straight.

[@justgetatesla]

They use a modified type 2. The same that can still be seen at v2 chargers which are double headed. That isn’t the same as the NACS Tesla connector.

[@Markcain268]

Good for the middle class folk!

[@justgetatesla]

Good for any folk.

[@Markcain268]

@justgetatesla providing they are wealthy enough to afford an ev, most working class folk can't afford one.

[@spsmith45]

There cheap used EVs.

[@Markcain268]

@spsmith45 yeah, around £4 or £5k about 5 times above my budget, and all that's on offer for that is an old zoe or leaf! Might as well stay with my old ford focus!

[@justgetatesla]

If your budget is a few grand then it isn’t just EVs out of budget - it’s any modern car. Why the EV hate? Who fed you that? Besides, if you want cheap used cars they have to start as expensive new cars. Did you used to sneer at posh folks buying new a Ford Focus?

[@nigelhudson1948]

Rolling out Tesla superchargers is only good news for the owners of 400V cars. It will be good news for everybody when Tesla finally convert to 800V or 960V.

[@justgetatesla]

When you say “owners of 400v cars- you know that is basically everyone, yeah?

[@axelc8611]

One of these just opened near me in colne 8 stalls perfectly placed to serve a number of towns in east lancs more rapid chargers here than in the whole of pendle

[@justgetatesla]

Yeah - they make a huge difference!

[@colinnich]

Yes, yes and again yes. I'm not usually one for monopolies, but Tesla are STILL the only game in town

[@rogerphelps9939]

Untrue. Never used a Teslas not super charger and it is unlikely that I ever will. They are not anywhere that I go. They cherry pick their locations.

[@peterjones6322]

Not the Only game, but currently still the best.

[@lewismacdonald1047]

In town, yes. Out of town, not so much! ;)

[@tonyrest6714]

65p @ kw at my local EG