(1362) Challenge: Blocked Out!

[@SaltyHermit]

I can't believe you picked my lock so quickly. Great Job Bill, I concede! You're Too Good! Haha Great video as always! I'll just have to try harder next time.

[@Vladimir-hq1ne]

That was very well done for a training/puzzle lock, way to go! Keep going until Bill and Lawyer both put your locks into Naughty Bucket! 👍

[@bosnianbill]

I had trouble believing it happened too! 😀

[@forevercomputing]

In this country, locksmiths just drill locks...

[@floorpizza8074]

Whenever I see the inevitable comments about "In this country, locksmiths just drill locks", or "how about a die grinder" or "just break a window" I realize the point of this channel is completely lost on those people.

[@arthurkurtz2448]

Did anyone else hear the neighbor's A/C switch on? It was kinda subtle. Great video 👍👍

[@minmatenx]

Opened my first lock last night y'all :) saved my uncle's ammo box. He was gonna drill it but I raked that b right open. Hell yeah :) loving this already

[@uncle_thulhu]

It's a massive fvcking ego boost the first time you pop a lock, hey?

[@fastcharlie4054]

What a fun lock. At first I thought, “ugh, it’s just going to be a strong-spring pick killer, “ but then I was impressed by his creativity and experimentation as well as your picking. I love weird out of the ordinary locks like this.

[@bosnianbill]

I like the weird ones too! It show a lot of creativity on the builder's part to come up with something like this.

[@EpherosAldor]

Not on topic for this video, but I just opened one of the most advanced locks I have in my collection. This is a first for me and it feels awesome! It was an American 5100 series and had 4 serrated drivers (positions 1, 2, 4, 5) and a serrated spool (position 3). There was an extra set of master wafers that I suspect are for a secondary key since there were no construction holes in the cylinder to trap a T-pin or something. It was the early 80s (late elementary school) when I started picking locks using the bent tines of a fork. In middle school I got my first real tools from an advert in the back of a martial arts magazine and started on padlocks, then just kinda dicked around with lockpicking after that as life started just being life, though I did mess around every so often. About 2 years ago, I was at work when someone locked their keys in their car (an early 2000s, maybe late 90s, Cadillac) and I usually carry my tools in my car, so I tried it and I just happened to get in using an old set of auto jigglers. First time I ever tried a car and I got in, in about 25-30 secs! I started pulling out my old locks that were boxed up and messed around again. I had also started watching these videos and LockPickingLawyer's to really start wrapping my head around what was going on. I think I'm really getting this now. So, thanks for the information, instruction, and entertainment. It's a nice little win in light of everything else.

[@bosnianbill]

Nice! It is always a rush to pick open a complex lock, and that 5100 certainly qualifies! Like you, I messed around for years without knowing what I was doing until it slowly clicked, a small piece at a time. That's one of the main reasons I decided to start the LockLab YT channel, to explain in detail what was going on and help others avoid the same painful learning curve. Glad you found the channel and good luck!

[@minmatenx]

Appreciate the story. I just got started. Absolutely love how supportive and welcoming y'all are.

[@8867348]

Wow!!! I cannot believe you got that open!! Mr. Bill, you definitely got some skill and talent. Good job, good job.

[@RevMikeBlack]

That's a fairly diabolical lock design. Congrats to Bryan!

[@DarkArtsLockPicking]

What a way to cheat you out from picking off the bottom of the key way. That is genius 😁. Very nice lock. And as always no match for you sir. I would have been whipped by that smart trick of limited room. Awesome job my friend. Stay safe mate. 👍👍👍🤘🤘🤘🍻🍻

[@AngryHatter]

No, this is Bill's staple - he thinks outside the box and encourages us to follow.

[@thumperlockpicking9269]

That was beyond tuff. That was some great Imaginary work of art just going forward. CHEERS Mate for a great pick,and even better the time and work that you put into this design of yours. CHEERS M8 and more. Wow

[@CF_Sapper]

Just picked the Abus 55/50 I have been working on for the better part of 3 hours while watching this video, been picking for about 3-4 days all thanks to you Bill and LPL for showing me this awesome hobby!

[@TylerLL2112]

Not sure why my 55/50 gave me such a hard time. I was able to pick a lock out master lock easier... mine was tricky.

[@adamwest8711]

Always impressed by the lock picking skills, but managing this one with that restricted opening and a camera in the way is über impressive. I stand in awe!

[@bradw0535]

Nice work Brian! Takes a lot of ingenuity to come up with unique obstacles like that, I see a paclock in your near future! As always Bill, excellent picking! You have inspired a lot of folks (me included) with your skill, passion for the sport, and common sense approach. You explain things very logically, and make it easy to catch on. Saved me lots of time at work, as ive I've been able to open doors for folks who have locked themselves out of offices, or warehousing, and just today was able to get a tow motor ignition switch picked and started for a group who misplaced a key. The legend of Bosnian Bill covers a lot of ground! :-)

[@THR33STEP]

Now that was a fantastic idea by Brian’s Locksport!!! I can’t believe Bill had enough room to get in there and pick the lock!! Great work to both of you!!

[@bosnianbill]

I was a bit surprised myself! 😀

[@brxtmp106]

Showed the importance of having .015 picks...and may .013?

[@AdamJee923]

Great video. Its all about the challenge and creativeness.

[@mrkultra1655]

Thanks Bill

[@MerkDolf]

I knew you picked the lock by the title but I was still chanting lets go Bill, lets go, and then all of the sudden an open. It was fun pick to watch and I really think a great lock.

[@curthatt6461]

Very cool trick! I have trouble when I have room. Great job Bill, you make it look easy.

[@thumperlockpicking9269]

Brian nicely done sir, but you went up to a Great lock picker. (Mr. Bill) I bet you were mad on the time it took Bill to pick it. After 40+hours in building it. Great job to both of you.

[@davidbrennan1670]

I like that pinning tray a lot nice

[@wesdresen9994]

That was a really good try on the lock and a great video. good job Bill

[@jeremiahkennedy1683]

Interesting design. Great pickin' Bill

[@xnownxinc5680]

This lock is perfect choice 👌👌 to secure my socks 😍

[@RustyNail5856]

Great video as always.

[@marv8481]

I just realized it seams as if bos and ave has the same type of cameras. They like to go out of their way to focus on what’s to the side lol

[@JasperJanssen]

But does Bill’s respond to “focus you fack”?

[@AlbertLebel]

Well done. Brian did a darn good job with a five pin lock.

[@edwardsherman1219]

Another great video, great troubleshooting and explanation as always. Did that brown handle come with that Rare Element pick you show @ 3:55?

[@bosnianbill]

No they didn't come that way from Rare Elements, but I made a video showing how easy it is to put handles on them. You can see it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2bLXmh3lpaooLc

[@jonathanivy2673]

Great pick as always Bill

[@MichaelBerthelsen]

Interesting lock, and good job working around that bottom block! And nice kitty shot at the end, there. Helps me out with the missus (she has three, so more lenient when there are cats in any video I watch.😉)

[@northerntactipicklocklife4333]

How do I send Bill some locks?

[@bosnianbill]

Easy! 😀 My mailing address is: LockLab P.O. Box 1620 Merrifield, VA 22116 Thank you! bill

[@uncle_thulhu]

I know this is a necropost, but I've long wondered - the Rat Yoke - it's just a very, very pretty custom de Forest Diamond, right?

[@philipnewby6343]

Great job

[@Zodliness]

I didn't see the two halves of the key together outside the lock, does the upper half marry up with the notch on the lower half, then allowing the key to be removed from the cylinder? I ask because it looked like every time you tried to pull the key parts out, the top piece would move first and I suppose trap the bottom half behind the last pin again.

[@uncle_thulhu]

This may be dumb, but why not just grab the key with pliers and tension it like that?

[@vegan-cannibal714]

Is there anyway to look up the original key cut depths using a VIN? I have an old(2003) taurus. My key is still working in the ignition, and the chip still works with the pats system, but it takes using a little bump key move to unlock the doors. I'm hoping to put a new ignition tumbler in while repinning it to use the old key. Since I only have one key that's very old I can't have a copy made to fix the door issues because the bitting is almost gone.

[@RealUnimportant]

Your best bet might be to approach the dealer that originally sold it (if you know who that was), and see if they kept those records. I know some bigger brands keep the records centrally for key recreation, but I don't imagine Ford would. It's not a Tibbe on that age is it? You can get a reasonably cheap tool that works out the bitting as you pick it, which you could then take to any locksmith with the right toolset; LPL has a video of it in action: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpTXoX9-rNVmj5Y

[@JohnLeePettimoreIII]

Generally speaking, most dealerships only keep those records for about 10 years max, if they keep them at all. You'll have to jump through numerous hoops to prove the vehicle is yours, but it's possible. Also, look on existing keys for a code. If you can locate one, most good locksmiths can lookup and cut by those codes.

[@vegan-cannibal714]

@@RealUnimportant firstly thank you for the reply, and please forgive my ignorance tibby?? I bought the car used back in 07 so the original dealer isn't an option. About all I know is it's got seven cuts, and it does have a pats system chip. I live way out in the boonies of SW Colorado so not being able to lock the doors was a non-issue, but I gave it to my son to take to college in IA. Securing the doors is now an issue. He's going to be home for a few days for Thanksgiving. I'm hoping to fix everything while he's here. I have a Ford dealership an hour away, so if it's going to get fixed I'll need to do most of the work at home.

[@vegan-cannibal714]

Sorry watched video after I responded its not a tippe thankfully

[@zironemegeaz]

not sure how it all works but few years ago (before I got curious about how all this works so I didn't really ask questions) we called a lock smith for an 2000ish ford truck and the smith was able to look up the key and make one that worked.

[@ZexMaxwell]

Thanks for making the lock so we can see the fulse set.

[@samselectronic4548]

Great job!

[@Steel-Pinnings]

Very neat lock!!! I just don't see how the bottom of the key was held in while using the key. Was there something else done to the key to keep it in place. Besides the standard cuts in a Hotel maid lockout key. But all in all a super fun lock!!!

[@jeffp7368]

6 pin key?

[@jeffk204]

I't looked to me that the first cut at the tip if the key was so tall that you'd have to move both the upper pin and lower pin out of the way otherwise it would be trapped. That ledge is actually past the pins and trapped on the other side, nearly coming out the back of the lock. I'm not sure I'm explaining it well. I had to rewatch that section before it sunk in for me.

[@bmitch3020]

I believe the key was tapered at the end, and probably cut below the height of the kill insert. So it didn't lift up the last pin high enough to be above the kill insert.

[@SaltyHermit]

The way I designed it was that even with the key in place, it didn't clear out enough room to remove the block. It was the bottom of a lockout key that I modified because usually with those it catches on the 3rd or 4th pin. I cut some off the inside and at an angle so the key fit in perfectly and manipulated the pins, but didn't open it up completely so it's a permanent block.

[@eddewille432]

Great video

[@stownhinge]

Хорошая кошка -- помощница, nice kitty, asking for a support!

[@kevinkelley3657]

I love these videos.

[@bmitch3020]

Rather than breaking it off from the back, couldn't you lift all the pins to the top and then slid that kill key out? Might even be able to use an upside-down extractor if the keyway allows it to lift up. Worst case, SPP each pin from back to front all the way to the top as you remove the kill key one pin at a time.

[@SaltyHermit]

I tried this and broke an extractor. The fifth spring was ridiculous and wouldn't let you shove it all into the bible. Further, the lockout bottom was modified to sit behind all the pins. The easier way would be to break off the front and shove it through.

[@randyaivaz3356]

A diamond pick works great for removing those lock kills, Thinking the Lock kill was made from a 6 Pin blank, then a 5 pin key for operation? Or did he file shoulder back on a 5 pin blank?

[@vegan-cannibal714]

Use his blocking move as your tension wrench, and just as I type it of course you say it. Lmao well since I'm typing I'll take a second to thank you. My first set of picks should be here in the next few days from Mad Bob. I've done alot of self teaching on padlocks and car doors/ ignitions over the past 20-30 years all legally I swear. Always a wall locker that needed help, and car doors. Of late it's been very old keys that are all but flat.

[@SaltyHermit]

That's actually how I picked it. I ended up using the blocking tool as the tensioner and I filed down a dimple pick for the actual pin manipulation.

[@devin2156]

Akiratima Is that how you intended Bill to do it?

[@johnfrancisdoe1563]

Coming from the world of electronic security watching all these lockpicking videos makes me wonder why (or if) there are no mechanical locks that force the picker to choose all the positions before revealing any clue if right or wrong. Seems they are all vulnerable to picking one pin or disc or slider at a time, which is a huge no-no in electronic security. In electronic security, people habitually worry if different wrong keys respond even a nanosecond different timing even if there's no obvious use for picking that particular mechanism.

[@bosnianbill]

Actually there ARE more complex locks, so don't make any firm decisions on what you've seen so far. Medeco locks have several "false paths" in the form of angled pins. No only must you push them to the correct height, but you must also rotate the pin to a specific angle. Also, most disc detainer and vehicle wafer locks have "false gates" - sometimes 2-3 on each disc - and there can be up to 20 different discs. If you pick to a false gate on any single disc, the lock will never open. Finally, many high security locks have side bars that jam up the core unless their pins are perfectly aligned - again they have false gates - and these are VERY difficult to pick open. Don't judge ALL locks on the few that you've seen - there are MANY different security measures out there.

[@JasperJanssen]

The standard pin tumbler lock was invented in the mid nineteenth century. There *are* innovations that came later. It’s just that for most purposes they’re not necessary.

[@brannonbrown7720]

I think this was a good build

[@AutisticThinker]

40 hours of picking attempts! WoW :)

[@AutisticThinker]

Sick key! :)

[@mattionsjo]

Hey Bill, Love your vids. I just got a semi-cheap padlock for a gate on my farm. Do you have a (simple diy) generic tip for making any padlock more secure? Have a nice weekend!

[@bosnianbill]

I guess it depends on what;s BEHIND the gate. If nothing but fields, I wouldn't worry about it too much. My dad used master locks all his life and only had trouble with people climbing OVER the fence to hunt the fields and creek. Nobody ever came through the locked gates. You could POST your land and hang a no trespassing sign to discourage climbers. If you have something VALUABLE behind the gate (tractors, equipment, etc), buy a GOOD lock like one of the Medecos designed for outdoor use. Better yet, think about an Abloy disc detainer like the 340. They are unpickable and tolerant of extreme use. Either is priced below $100.

[@mattionsjo]

Bosnianbill Thank you, sir!

[@thelockpickinglebowski633]

Why use an additional tension wrench when there's already one built in at the bottom of the keyway?

[@mensb1936]

The Lock Picking Lebowski the extra challenge

[@thelockpickinglebowski633]

@@mensb1936 Just not challenging to the point of risking the Ratyoke.

[@DonzLockz]

This is new, atleast I have not seen this design before. Clever but no Paclock. There's always next time.🍺😎

[@SaltyHermit]

I'll keep trying

[@RealUnimportant]

Could that pin depression have been part of the mechanic that held the block key in position?

[@SaltyHermit]

It was an experiment, I was going to put a little ball bearing in there with it, but the spring wouldn't allow me to get everything in there.

[@crowfly1979]

Cute trick on that one

[@Mortymorton]

The box is nice haha

[@barringtonpedleyjr8788]

INCREDIBLE 🤔

[@HintHunter]

@Bosnianbill how do i know if i over set one pin? or over picked it?

[@bosnianbill]

After over-setting a pin, none of the unpicked pins will bind.

[@fastcharlie4054]

It might sound weird, but one of the best pieces of advice I saw and used was to practice oversetting a pin on purpose so that you can recognize how it feels so you can possibly avoid it when picking other locks. And of course, Bill’s response is accurate.

[@stevenr53]

Could you of held all the pins up to slide out the bottom piece?

[@dawolf7784]

Cool design ! Gives me some more ideas to design a lock that both Bill and LPL can’t open! LoL! My guess is you haven’t had any luck opening Sables lock 🧐😎. Nice job of getting around I. That tight space bill! I would have thought using top key tension would have restricted the ability to manipulate the pins much more! Woof on!

[@bosnianbill]

Got Sable’s lock on video & just waiting to publish...😀

[@dawolf7784]

AWWW Dang i cant believe you got it open! I will am soooo waiting to see how long it took you to get it open and how you did it!

[@ladyholic9033]

why can i see someone open a guard combination padlock

[@colbyhebert4682]

I’m donating them to the tape😂😂

[@DarxusC]

So you pick your screwdrivers to avoid upsetting people, but you pick your lubricants to upset people? :)

[@0nfir34h1m]

13:17 you didn’t pick him to the correct level. You relocked the lock and used the key.

[@ratataran]

Why don't you just use the key that's in there and some pliers to try and use that as tension?

[@BlisterBang]

Spring from a BIC lighter? Didn't you mean BIC pen?

[@thomaspaineaccountability]

That's simply a block out key you put other half in and pull out only on bottom half

[@VetalR]

👍 👍 👍 👍 👍

[@frank9240]

THE SPIRAL SNAIL DESIGN WILL PREVAIL...........STAY TUNED....

[@bshinn4884]

I bet it has become more difficult for you to pick a lock without a camera in the way lol

[@4lifejeph]

That has to be a little demoralizing to spend time putting the lock together and then 40hrs picking to see it opened in like 10min.

[@forrestmorgan3222]

We put these on peoples homes, who wre going on vacation, etc. They are easy to defeat, if you know what they are.

[@JasperJanssen]

Easy to defeat *if* the lock has enough room to put it in or out at all post assembly. I think in this one it can only be put in or taken out by removing the core.

[@Rev0lutionary]

A theory on why the Keypin of chamber 5 may have that cup: What if it's to deepen the false set and throw off feedback? Since you would know how two flat edges of a spool respond to attack, that cup might be enough to throw some people off.

[@marcohamburg9619]

👍

[@timoffen3615]

Hey Bill, next time please use a small flat head screwdriver in a Philips head screw

[@RealUnimportant]

I'm holding out for him using a Torx in a flathead screw.

[@johnydl]

am I the only one who's seeing this in jump-cut-o-vision?

[@adamwest8711]

JohnyDL no, I had a brief glitch 30 seconds or so in but fine after that.

[@johnydl]

the whole last half of mine had play a bit jump a bit but the audio was fine and over all it seemed to sync up, might be my computer

[@jeffk204]

No jumps for me. It played just fine. Have you tried right clicking on the video and select stats for nerds? It will overlay your stats. Though I don't know what they mean. : )

[@johnydl]

I came back and it's the whole video.... it's weird, oh well

[@Mur-lock68]

Great As Always Bill! Please see my first video thanks for the inspiration sir! please keep your laughter in check!!!

[@swgeorgia]

Probably a trap pin in the very back preventing you from pulling out the bottom part of the key.

[@jeremyashford2145]

I am not a lock picker but I can say Bill’s approach to removing the cut key from the lower CD was wrong. Sure it probably would not have made any difference anyway but the correct process would have been to push the top part of the key out with the cut-off bottom piece. Bill did not attempt that once on camera.

[@RocketboyX]

The ladies like it when you are "accommodating" with your length.

[@Mortymorton]

Great video