137 - America Surrenders - The Fall of Bataan - April 10, 1942

[@WorldWarTwo]

The Bataan Death March is just one example of man's inhumanity to man during this war. We have an entire bi-weekly subseries called War Against Humanity that covers the atrocities committed by all sides. The playlist for that is right here: kzbin.info/aero/PLsIk0qF0R1j4cwI-ZuDoBLxVEV3egWKoM And check out our day-by-day coverage of the war on Instagram. It's a great companion to these weekly episodes. instagram.com/WW2_Day_By_Day/ And please read our rules of conduct before you comment, saves everyone headaches (and loads of time): community.timeghost.tv/t/rules-of-conduct/4518

[@Imjustasimpleman5310]

Love the new visuals... & the foreshadowing. 😉

[@philippinecircularflag2023]

The Fall of Bataan is actually celebrated here in the Philippines as "Araw ng Kagitingan."

[@owlperson5075]

And we commemorate every 9th of April for all the troops that were lost during the march here in The Philippines

[@stephenroberts4895]

Since 1989, here in southern New Mexico at White Sands Missile Range, a memorial march has been held to remember the Death March-- The Bataan Memorial Death March. Interesting fact: Why we remember the Bataan Death March with a memorial march is because of the 10,000 who marched, 1,186 were from New Mexico and from combat, prisons, or shortly after liberation, 829 never returned home. Those men were from the New Mexico 200th Coast Artillery, New Mexico National Guard. Here's more about the memorial march and its history: bataanmarch.com/

[@katana1430]

When I was about 8 or 9, I met a man who had survived that. I had never heard of the march at that point and it was only years later that I realized what he must have gone through. Unfortunately, he had passed away by the time I found out.

[@Spindrift_87]

The map guys continue to up their game! We notice and appreciate their craft

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thanks!

[@bastien5589]

I think its the youtubeur “Eastory” shout to them and they do great map videos

[@ΔημήτρηςΠ-ζ5γ]

@@bastien5589 *Eastory

[@meekonvadaameh]

@@bastien5589 Eastory*

[@filipvidinovski7960]

@@WorldWarTwo The show is very well produced in general, not just the maps. Congratulations and keep up the good work.

[@pnutz_2]

4:15 "Japanese logistics break down" I've got an idea for a drinking game...

[@HankScorpio93]

Count me in!

[@jasondouglas6755]

I am in

[@jasondouglas6755]

Good thing you did not come up with the idea during Barbarossa, we would be wasted bye now

[@lennardlee4483]

Gotta get a new kidney.

[@hillbillykoi5534]

That got a laugh from me lol. Count me in!

[@pnutz_2]

germany, 1916 "let's bait the british into a massive naval battle" japan, 1942 "let's bait the americans into a massive naval battle"

[@matthiasbindl7085]

the germans at least won that battle on a tactical level against a force twice their own size and it was close to their own supply lines. The japanese on the other hands nearest supply port is half an ocean away and they got absolutely crushed by a force smaller than theirs. Comparing the two is actually unfair to the german high seas fleet

[@andrewpease3688]

Germany 1918, let's bait the British into a massive air battle. Intialy they don't seem to have taken the bait.....

[@matthiasbindl7085]

@@andrewpease3688 yeah, that´s a better comparision

[@HDreamer]

@@matthiasbindl7085 Arguably the British also won on the tactical level, since the german Fleet had to run away and many of the german ships were heavily damaged, but certainly it was a much closer fought battle than Midway. If you haven't seen them already, I recommend Drachinfel's three videos on the Battle of Jutland.

[@timothyhouse1622]

@@matthiasbindl7085 tactical victory means little in the strategic context if the victor is unable to capitalize on the success. Germany lost Jutland on the strategic level.

[@amerigo88]

Met a distinguished English gentleman at church in 2002. He was a survivor of the HMS Hermes, the carrier sunk by Kido Butai near Colombo during this week’s raid. The Hermes, with no planes on board, and a destroyer were found and sunk by over 60 Japanese dive bombers. Imagine being so helpless as that gentleman was that day. Tears streamed down his face as he told me the story.

[@QuizmasterLaw]

Better still? The only a/c on board hermes were "stringbag" bombers. Not only did Hermes have no combat air patrol it could not have had such since bombers make terribly bad fighters.

[@MarkVrem]

@@QuizmasterLaw I can't imagine life without Air Conditioning in with the summer looming.

[@QuizmasterLaw]

@@MarkVrem um, guilty of Canada, what is this thing called "air conditioning" which thou speakest of?

[@QuizmasterLaw]

@@MarkVrem a/c here stands for "aircraft". If you're trolling, well played, but your likely not a native speaker of English so... maybe not? a/c does usually stand for air conditioning.

[@commando4481]

Did he tell you what he did after the raid? As in what he did later on in the war.

[@maciejkamil]

'No, that's not over-optimistic, that's just plain stupid' - is a quote that perfectly describes Japanese plans for 1942. I love that it was placed at the very beginning of the episode.

[@mjbull5156]

The Japanese did not have the shipping capacity to support a force to hold Hawaii. Furthermore, their Army leadership were completely against providing land forces to invade Hawaii in the first place. At least Yamamoto's Midway plans will result in a decisive naval battle.

[@principalityofbelka6310]

Exactly. They were so pessimistic in the early days of the Pacific war but because of continuous victories they begin to experience the "victory disease". Not to mention the already abyssmal cooperation between the IJA and the IJN which hampered combat operations extensively.

[@shaider1982]

@@principalityofbelka6310 I think the Japanese themselves have the saying for something like this: "after every victory, remember to tighten your helmet straps".

[@lorensims4846]

As I heard it the Pearl Harbor attack was intended to be a knockout blow that would convince us that resistance is futile. They don't know us very well, do they?

[@RickLowrance]

Well said. Looking for an overrated commander in WWII? Look at Yamamoto. Perhaps his time at Harvard gave him a skewed view of Americans.

[@gbendicion7052]

Here in the Philippines we celebrate April 9th as so-called "Araw ng Kagitingan" or Day of Heroism. Even though the peninsula fell, the fight continued.

[@tiagomnlmnl]

Technically it's the Day of Valor, but you're not far off!

[@thefrenchareharlequins2743]

Battling bastards of Bataan.

[@shaider1982]

Yup, we celebrate that. In context, I think that was the last bastion to fall before the Japanese in Southeast Asia. Correction: Ahh, of course Corregidor still stands.

[@pedrolopez8057]

@@shaider1982 Though Corregidor hasn't fallen yet which means the Japanese can't risk sending soft skin ships past it.

[@petersaint5581]

Based and Pinopilled.

[@GeneralSmitty91]

Besides Prince Philip, who served in the war, passing away this week. The last American Medal of Honor recipient for the European Theater passed away as well. Only one remains for the Pacific. It feels in many ways like the end of era lately.

[@stevekaczynski3793]

About 20 years ago the last survivors of active service in WW1 were dying off and we are seeing this now with the later conflict.

[@simon7790]

Prince Philip was on the battleship HMS Valiant at the Battle of Cape Matapan in March 1941, and also in Tokyo Bay for the Japanese Surrender in 1945 on the destroyer HMS Whelp.

[@oliverbanter1865]

RIP Prince Philip

[@red_nikolai]

The memory of the Great Wars has fallen. Begun, the Zoomer Age, has.

[@finchborat]

@@stevekaczynski3793 And February was the 10th anniversary of the U.S. losing its last WWI veteran. Next year will be the 10th anniversary of the last WWI veteran to pass away.

[@excelon13]

Japan: "Yo Germany can you guys launch an offensive through the middle east so we can link up in India and drive Britain out of Asia?" Germany: _looks at lack of Japanese help with the USSR_ ".....No."

[@matthewbadley5063]

Also, Germany's closest forces to British India are 2,000 miles away in Ukraine, and would require crossing several mountain passes and deserts. Like...just not possible.

[@emisat8970]

@@matthewbadley5063 Bro, you think we gave a sh*t about logistics? More Japanese soldiers probably died of starvation than enemy action in WWII.

[@ajc-ff5cm]

That is surprisingly funny.

[@agentorange6085]

@@matthewbadley5063 ...excuse me! Didn't you read the Führer's directive? After the Soviet armies are destroyed on the Don, he's heading for the mountain passes of the Caucasus... after that, it's all downhill...

[@noobster4779]

@@matthewbadley5063 They could take the easier way over Aegypt though if they break through :D

[@joshuaevans4301]

Kido Butai is on a roll! There's no way they could get taken down. It'll be interesting to see how severely they crush the Americans when Yamamoto's plan goes into action!

[@zainabbasi8304]

They will be unstoppable. I am sure that Japan has already won

[@shaider1982]

I was surprised that they did not have radar but then it is a relatively new technology.

[@jimelliot4904]

It’s not over yet, this war is only at its MIDWAY point

[@kampfret]

@@jimelliot4904 nice punch 👍

[@eggshen27]

In Japan, Yamamoto is know as a tratior Fr33Mas0n who lead Japan to ruin. They even executed Yamamoto before he could reveal is involvement.

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

"it's a trap !" - Yamamoto when realising something isn't quite like planned, for the Midway operations.

[@indianajones4321]

“It’s over Japan! I have the high ground!” -US pilots flying over Japanese carriers with bombs

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

@@indianajones4321 "you underestimate my carriers !"

[@indianajones4321]

@@Duke_of_Lorraine “Don’t try it!”

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

@@indianajones4321 BANZAI !!!! (jumps anyway)

[@indianajones4321]

@@Duke_of_Lorraine Sinks four carriers and a heavy cruiser

[@ashikurrahman2960]

Arrived here from 1914. The great war Between two wars. It took me 6 months! It was an insane journey really. It changed my worldview completely. Life in quarantine was quite productive thanks to u💝

[@WorldWarTwo]

You're welcome!

[@Raskolnikov70]

I binge-watched about half of the WWI series as well, and wish I hadn't. Watching the episodes as they're released is way better when it comes to understanding the overall flow of the war and how various events connect with one-another. Reading about them tends not to help with that because large blocks of time get skipped over. But getting things as they occur, as the people fighting the war would have understood them, gives you a lot of insight into why they made the decisions they did at the time.

[@a_dreamer8612]

Yesterday was Araw ng Kagitingan(day of Valor) in the Philippines. To commemorate soldiers who died in WW2 or more specifically Bataan

[@jasondouglas6755]

Can you guys do a special about the Philippine resistance, it is a very interesting part of WW2 but is little talked about

[@elijahbarbie4841]

Do it,please Indy

[@basicpigeonbee]

That sounds really interesting!

[@retrovirus_exe]

Oh, yes please. My maternal grandfather participated in guerrilla activities during the Japanese occupation.

[@jewiesnew3786]

Yeah and that teacher assassin/guerilla fighter too!

[@cyrillevillanueva1396]

I agree! Indy, do this please!

[@davidbush8765]

When I was a boy scout in the mid-1960s, my Assistant Scout Master was an ex Marine and a Bataan Death March survivor. He never talked openly about it. My best recollection of him was his love of raw onion sandwiches.

[@stevekaczynski3793]

Possibly malnutrition in captivity caused him to have odd dietary cravings in later life?

[@kayak2hell]

@@stevekaczynski3793 This is almost certainly a holdover from the Great Depression. My grandparents grew up during those times (born in 1922 and 1924) when there was nothing else to make a sandwich out of. They would eat onion sandwiches periodically afterward, saying that doing so "made them feel young again". Though they would only have them for lunch when they weren't planning to go out or expecting company.

[@macgyversmacbook1861]

My great grandad was in the 84th Infantry and even though he thankfully was never a POW he never talked with my mom (his granddaughter) about what he went through a lot like your Marine Scout Master (from what I've heard from Marine culture you're only an ex Marine if you get kicked out) and my mom says he enjoyed sardines right out of the tin

[@KnoxZone]

It is just now starting to set in that we are entering Spring 1942. These next few months are going to be crazy. Fall Blau, Coral Sea, Midway, El Alamein, and the start of Stalingrad. The Phony War feels like a lifetime ago.

[@wizardpv1]

Heheh Mother of all battles in Stalingrad will soon start.

[@pez4]

wtf put a spoiler warning >:(

[@nicholasconder4703]

Spoiler Alert: Remember, as Churchill said, "Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."

[@Yamato-tp2kf]

And do not forget the daring bombing attack that the US is going to do in the next 2 weeks...

[@6thsavage]

My grandmother passed this week. She was the last of the generation that lived the Japanese occupation and definitely carried that with her. I studied history undergrad, Int. Affairs grad, but now I really feel the need to make sure this history is remembered, not due to some residual animosity toward the Japanese people, but to acknowledge the dangerously prideful, yet insecure pseudo-philosophies that made themselves so susceptible to committing such unthinkable violence

[@WorldWarTwo]

May she rest in peace

[@6thsavage]

@@WorldWarTwo Appreciate that. Keep up the good fight!

[@KoIossov]

@Olivier Verdys Not just in Asia. This kind of thinking falls under the umbrella of Populist Nationalism. It is a cancer everywhere.

[@6thsavage]

@Thanos 6.0 Philippines. Overlooked that detail. She was in Manila.

[@pb_and_jj]

That slow zoom on Indy's pondering at the end was a cinematographic masterpiece!

[@Dustz92]

The plans for Midway AND Stalingrad in the same week? If you ever misscalculate something, feel comfort that at least you are not the Axis HQs on early April 1942

[@nicholasconder4703]

@Thanos 6.0 And another reason why I don't think Auchinleck was a great commander.

[@Yamato-tp2kf]

@@Rahulrao2576 I see that you hate Great Britain, the British, and all the those who speak English in the British isles... Ok... Do you live in England? By the way, i'm am Portuguese, i'm not defending the British, i'm just saying that hate doesn't resolve anything...

[@thebog11]

@@Yamato-tp2kf He didn't say that he hated any of those things

[@Yamato-tp2kf]

@@Rahulrao2576 Like any country in the world, Britain did big mistakes (even my home country), i don't like the countries that use the past tragedies to make sure that his people still can obey like a robot to their leaders, in 80 years, the world changed a lot, we only need to look at the past to learn from those mistakes, not to instill hate to make the same mistakes that others did to them, we don't need to live in the past, we need to learn from the past to march to the future... That's all i wanted to say

[@MegaBlueShit]

To be fair, the original German plan considered taking Stalingrad an optional, secondary objective. Didn't quite turn out that way.

[@fluffyninja6380]

Thank you for telling the story of Bataan. My great-great uncle JD was one of the few hundred Americans who survived the fall of Bataan, the Bataan Death March, and Cabanatuan. When they shipped him back home he was still too weak to walk. He had to ask and sometimes pay people to help him move trains. Many Americans seem to forget that we ever fought on land in the Philippines. I hope that when the time comes you'll cover the rescue mission that freed my uncle JD and the rest of the surviving American POW's at Cabanatuan. I also hope that Astrid will look into "High Pockets" Claire Phillips and the rest of the underground network that smuggled supplies and information to and from Cabanatuan for her Spies and Ties series. Thank you to the TimeGhost team for all the work you do on your different channels and projects. We’re the battling bastards of Bataan; No mama, no papa, no Uncle Sam. No aunts, no uncles, no cousins, no nieces, No pills, no planes, no artillery pieces And nobody gives a damn.

[@navajoguy8102]

Profiles on Bataan survivors would be interesting. One survivor was Joe Kieyoomia who was taken to Japan and tortured because his captors assumed he was Japanese. Then when they learned he was Navajo Indian he was tortured again because they thought he knew the Navajo Code. During which he was held in Nagasaki when the atomic bomb was dropped on it. Afterwards he was finally released.

[@更雨晴]

Damn, he survived through everything

[@Altrantis]

Wow. Imagine how many times he must have thought "You got to be kidding me."

[@Raskolnikov70]

They should have give him a medal for being the unluckiest guy in the war to actually survive it. Good point about the Code though, just knowing Navajo wouldn't have been enough for him to read the messages. I'm sure they'll cover this in detail when they get to the special episode on Codetalkers.

[@belbrighton6479]

Where can I find out more? This is fascinating.

[@navajoguy8102]

@@belbrighton6479 I learned about him years ago when reading the book Navajo Weapon: The Navajo Code Talkers. It had a chapter about the ordeal that he lived through. Joe was a soldier in the 200th Coast Artillery which was part of the Philippines defense during the Japanese invasion. Aside from that book there were a number of news articles about him up till his death in 1997.

[@PaperclipClips]

My grandfather was among one of the many that fell during the Bataan Death March. He shipped out at the outbreak of war and that was the last time his wife ever saw him. She was pregnant when he left, and a daughter (i.e., my mom) was born nine months later.

[@presidentxijinpingspoxdoct9756]

You should be proud of his service and sacrifice to help defeat evil.

[@TheMCD1989]

That's crazy, I feel like the channel did something they don't usually do which is write the episode as though to justify or gloss over the brutality of the death march.

[@emisat8970]

ご愁傷様でございました。May he never be forgotten.

[@sukitron5415]

@@TheMCD1989 I think they'll go over it in a lot more detail in WAH so that might be why it's left a bit more vague here

[@michaelkovacic2608]

@@TheMCD1989 why would you say that? The WW2 team is doing a brilliant job of telling the story without bias

[@robb1068]

“It is possible... that a lack of forewarning about the enemy might one day come back to haunt them.” That first shock is slowly crossing the North Pacific right now...

[@Erik-ko6lh]

The Hornet left San Francisco on the 2nd of April. By today the 10th, the Enterprise has joined her as an escort. It's a good thing kido buti is in the Indian ocean.

[@gunman47]

3:44 With the fall of Bataan, it looks like Corregidor will likely fall pretty soon in a number of days given its isolation and lack of help forthcoming. In the meantime though, the Coral Sea looks like a possible next staging area for the Imperial Japanese Navy after their rather successful Indian Ocean Raid.

[@diarradunlap9337]

I would say that the number of days before Corregidor falls will turn out to be a number of weeks.

[@nicholasconder4703]

Spoiler Alert: Surprise, it takes almost a month.

[@mnk9073]

The Axis are fun: Italy is really bad at executing generally good plans, Germany is good at executing mediocre plans and the Japanese are great at executing absolutely idiotic plans.

[@lelouchvibritannia7809]

Lmfao

[@OldSalt73]

Having been stationed in the US Navy at Subic Bay, I've been to Mt Samat and Corregidor a few times, very impressive memorials at both sites. The memorial cross on Samat is incredible and one can take an elevator ride to the "T" of the cross for an impressive view of the Bataan Peninsula. Several years ago I had the honor of visiting the gravesite of Arthur Clemenson, an uncle of my good friend. He asked me to visit as no one from his family had ever been to the Manila Cemetery. Arthur survived the battle and death march, but perished at the Camp O'Donnell POW camp a month later. That was really an honor for me and the cemetery officials provided me a wonderful booklet about Arthur to bring back to the family.

[@UnfairEnforcer]

Honestly, it is already impressive enough that the Japanese were able to stretch their army so well between China and the Pacific. Having to take even more territory would surely create many more issues than it’s worth

[@FOLIPE]

It's impressive that they didn't collapse immediately being this stretched.

[@senpainoticeme9675]

@@FOLIPE logistics also works against the Allies too. The Americans and the British have to supply their forces halfway araound the world. Relatively speaking the Japanese have shorter lines of communications with their industrial heartland much closer to re supply. The problem for Japan is that the US massively dwarfed the Japanese industrial capacity and it was a matter of time when the Japanese are unable to match the attrition losses they suffered, doubly so for their Navy.

[@tams805]

@@senpainoticeme9675 The US and UK have long supply lines, but they control them very well for the most part and they are directed to a few centres from where they don't need to be distributed far. The Japanese on the other hand have massive fronts, so their supply lines are very scattered.

[@stefanhaagedoorn3690]

One (of the many) thing that is great about this series is how you feel that the Axis can actually win, despite knowing how this all ends. Right now, the Allies are getting hit left and right. There's no way the Axis can lose this, right?

[@ВячеславФролов-д7я]

that`s right, however, imho, those axis lucky days have already ended by approximately november. See: germany now has a lot of long campaigns that it can`t win fast and put some pressure off her limited resourses, japanese seemingly winning, but main allies resources are deployed aganist germany and all this time (excluding PH) best japanese units fight second-class allied colonial troops, and they haven`t captured anything that america wanted to defend at any cost, probably philippines only

[@brucetucker4847]

@@ВячеславФролов-д7я The Axis had to win quickly or else they'd lose a long war, and it's the twelve months starting around November 1941 that their efforts to win quickly fell short despite impressive initial gains.

[@ВячеславФролов-д7я]

@@brucetucker4847 didn't see it in this "one year" perspective but yeah, fits just well in November

[@ВячеславФролов-д7я]

@@Madhattersinjeans fast War is also a common focus of nations who have land borders with their enemies i.e. Soviets don't focus on economic warfare much (strategic bombing, convoy interseption) just because you can afford to count on long economic - based war if you are surrounded by sea, but if you have land borders with enemies you can simply find enemy taking your capital before your war of attrition affects him

[@icewaterslim7260]

The one thing we had though was the disproportionately massive manufacturing base with Essex class carriers already under construction on the ways of US shipyards since before Pearl Harbor. We were biding time and that prescient confidence of Franklin Roosevelt about the inevitable outcome of this thing clearly comes through in his war declaration speech. But most Americans without this kind of insight, were probably having their private concerns about our future in the Pacific about now. . Now the military junta in Japan knew of our Essex class carriers under construction and were betting the farm on a quick war and a panicky US suing for peace in the unlikely event of our west coast becoming vulnerable to the Kido Butai with only a few months before the new carriers were commissioned . . . Man those are the kinds of suckers that a good poker player wants to see at the table

[@maciejkamil]

I like that during the recap part from 0:55 to 1:15 you showed recordings of things which were talked about.

[@jimbobjones9119]

Little known fact about the Easter Sunday raid is that with the sinking of HMSs Dorsetshire, Cornwall, Hermes and Hollyhock, the fledgling South African Naval Forces suffered their greatest loss of the war, with 65 seconded officers and ratings killed - not commemorated and remembered by few.

[@jasondouglas6755]

I have a strange feeling that Indy was foreshadowing with that ending.🤨

[@CrazyYurie]

Yes.

[@petesime]

Are you sure it wasn't more mid way through the episode?

[@shuaguin5446]

Definitly your imagination. Indy never does foreshadowing

[@ab-lymphocite5464]

Nah your imagining things. Also how can you foreshadow the future, as it hasn't happened yet.

[@ArkadiBolschek]

You think?

[@jesswilliam5346]

A decisive fleet action at Midway? Sounds like a great idea for Japan.

[@ChevyChase301]

Trade I get Strategic Victory with 1 carrier scuttled You get 4 carriers sunk

[@SirLoinsteak9001]

15:09 seems Indy only got Midway through his thought

[@fossforus4704]

My great-uncle was a survivor of the Bataan Death March. I never knew him, but from what my family has told me his hair had gone grey by the time he was thirty.

[@mattfrankel5968]

Indy's speculation about the Kido Butai at the end of the video is excellently done within the parameters of this show, good job crew (again :) )

[@jasondouglas6755]

In one week the stage was seat for 3 of the most important battles of the war!

[@davidwright7193]

@Thanos 6.0 Tolbruk? I think you mean the 1st and 2nd battles of El Alimain

[@matthiasbindl7085]

i wouldn´t call anything in the north africa campaign to be part of the most important battles of ww2. The thing was an afterthought to the real battles going on in europe and asia

[@davidwright7193]

@@matthiasbindl7085 North Africa is more important than the numbers involved suggest. It is Suez, the route to India and the southern supply line to Russia and access to oil from Iraq, Iran and the gulf that are under threat. Suez is the lynchpin of the Empire without it Britain is on the verge of defeat.

[@lanceroparaca1413]

Also Coral Sea

[@yourstruly4817]

I don't think any battle won by the Axis after 1941 could be considered very important because the balance of power was already greatly shifting in favor for the Allies because of their much greater industrial capacities

[@zacharyragsdale7489]

My grandfather - Luther Ernest Ragsdale - was in the Bataan Death march. Never got to hear the stories from him directly, but the stories from his sons and my father are absolutely chilling

[@HistoryOfRevolutions]

"I would rather be a little nobody, then to be a evil somebody" - Abraham Lincoln

[@minsapint8007]

I suppose that, from the point of view of the Confederacy, Lincoln failed in that objective.

[@lycaonpictus9662]

@@minsapint8007 Friendly reminder that the Confederate leaders declared slavery to be the cause for secession during the secession debates and the declarations of secession they later drafted. A sample from Mississippi's declaration of secession: "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin." The Confederates started a civil war because they didn't get the results they wanted from a fair and democratic presidential election, and feared that their "rights" to keep 4 million Americans in chains were now in danger. While it is true that they viewed Lincoln as the villain, that was also based on a belief that African peoples were inherently inferior to white men and that their enslavement to the latter was both right and proper and ordained by God. Tyrants rarely see themselves as such, and that was also true for the Confederate leadership. You'd be hard pressed to find a more unjust cause for war in all of American military history than that of the Confederacy's rebellion.

[@garcalej]

@@lycaonpictus9662 Amen.

[@alchemist6819]

_"Stop posting comments/quotes in my name or I will kill you"_ - Lincoln

[@PhoenixFire2]

@@minsapint8007 Well, from the point of view of the Confederacy, there were people they could and should legally be allowed own, so maybe we shouldn't take their point of view seriously.

[@Mis-AdventureCH]

had the honor of meeting the former 1st SGT from the 111th New Mexico Cavalry some years ago at the Bataan Museum in Santa Fe. Just as WW2 was dawning they were converted to the 200th Coastal Artillery and sent to the Philippines. Fired the first shots. Surrendered at Battan. He was present at the Death march and subsequent captivity. While we were there a couple of Japanese exchange students wandered in asking for directions. He literally had a physical reaction when he saw them. (no fault of theirs or his) His breathing locked up, heart rate and BP shot up. We came very close to calling 911. This was in 1994. That's how deep those scars ran.

[@cookingwithchefluc7173]

What's better than waking up after your Saterday Afternoon nap when you get a notification that Indy uploaded a new video !!

[@jayz4dayz763]

I love the foreshadowing at the end about Midway! Lol great stuff.

[@hillbillykoi5534]

That's so silly to think that Kido Butai would not learn from said bomber raid and adapt. Something like that would NEVER happen again to them, being caught with pants down like that.

[@ab-lymphocite5464]

To be fair it's not like they didn't try developing shipborne radar. They were just late starters and had lots of problems getting it ready. And by the time that some of the ships started getting it, it was irrelevant as the war was already all but lost.

[@brucetucker4847]

@@ab-lymphocite5464 Lack of effective fighter coordination and control was just as crippling as lack of radar. The fighter pilots were expected to spot threats themselves and respond to them accordingly - there was no provision for anyone on the ship to keep the fighter pilots updated with a complete picture of the battle, or to direct their activities so that they didn't all pounce on the first visible threat and leave the ships open to attack by other planes. This, more than the lack of radar, was what led to the disaster at Midway. At one point in the battle Japanese cruisers were trying to alert the fighters to incoming attacks by firing their main guns at the enemy planes because they had no other way to relay the warning to the fighters. And since the fighters kept using all their fuel and ammo chasing after attackers who had already dropped their ordnance, the flight decks of the carriers were kept in constant use recovering CAP planes and launching new ones and there was no opportunity to set up and launch the planned attack on the US carriers that had been spotted.

[@ab-lymphocite5464]

@@brucetucker4847 Ah that's what you were getting at. Yes, fighter pilots do have a tendency of doing that if they aren't given specific orders. I didn't know about the cruiser thing, thanks for sharing that!

[@MrDestonus]

@@brucetucker4847 Not only that, they apparently took the radios out of the Zeros to "save weight" in a fighter that was already more maneuverable than their opponents' and relied on hand signals to communicate.

[@joao_1986]

I'm liking this new design where you show small footage in the corner while you quickly go over the events of the week

[@sinonkryze3638]

Hey World War 2 I hope you feature this in the future. I am not sure how true is this or not I learned that in the near future of the war in the Philippines one of the Filipino resistance groups found/capture some important papers coming from a certain Japanese officer that died from an airplane crash at sea. The paper contain plans of the Japanese on the Pacific theater and their strategies. I hope you add this in your videos. Keep up the great work.

[@broworm1]

The breakdown on where all those troops were at 10:00 is very impressive, and shows an impressive amount of research in just a few minutes!

[@Johnny-Thunder]

5:58 I'm looking forward to the coverage on the Kokoda Track Campaign. I am fascinated with this battle, just because almost literally nobody over here (in the Netherlands) has ever heard of it.

[@gianniverschueren870]

Oh I like this one. Reminds me of a test screen but with softer colours that play off each other well... Nicely done. 4.5/5

[@emisat8970]

Ayyy, Gianni's back. I haven't seen you on the last few videos.

[@gianniverschueren870]

@@emisat8970 I've commented on every single one though, but glad to be of service!

[@nerothemaad6229]

Oooo, 1:00 is that a new map feature i spot? it providing a picture in picture presentation through a 3D object, its even got shading on the map behind it. 10/10

[@ChiSoxRox2005]

Hey, crazy idea. If the carrier fleet wasn't expecting an aerial attack, let's maybe sneak something at the Home Islands and say hi to Tojo himself.

[@Raskolnikov70]

Doesn't seem like that would damage the Japanese mainland very much, but I guess it'd be better to "do little" than sit by and do nothing at all ;)

[@ChrisSmith-tr4lg]

@@Raskolnikov70 It would be a bit of a sting to their pride, though I'm not sure how you could get close enough

[@Arrionw]

While in the US Army in 1990 I was assigned to be a pallbearer for the funeral of a Death March survivor. I had no idea what I was in for when I was told to report to the Chaplain's office in dress uniform. That was by far the most memorable and moving detail I ever lucked into in the service.

[@ralflewandowski7641]

Indy's Kidō Bu-Tie-Barn.

[@miendude]

Indy, the way to end each episode with a tiny tidbit that has HUGE implications for the future of WWII is truly electrifying, 10/10 and thank you.

[@damon899]

Loved the dramatic ending! Absolutely brilliant.

[@johnlarson111]

friend of my fathers was at Bataan. he didn't talk about his experience but from what my father told me it was horrific.

[@matthewbadley5063]

Japan, winning so much they don't know what to do with all of this winning!

[@hillbillykoi5534]

I wonder if they will get tired of all the winning.

[@bardigan1]

four years repeats itself!

[@Mr110074]

Hint: It’s war crimes.

[@nkdevde]

"We can defeat literally anyone!" - "So... we go back to fighting Chin--" "MAYBE INDIA NEXT!!!?!??"

[@kitjohnson2767]

Hahaha!

[@harryjanssens4415]

Best episode yet, Indy and crew! As a proud specialist of the Timeghost Army I commend you on your efforts! Your in depth analysis, combined with great and rare footage really is fantastic! Special compliment to Indy for his performance 👍

[@JuanPerez-vv5lk]

that Indy ending was great as always

[@thethirdjegs]

Ive been waiting for Bataan since FOREVER!!!. Thanks.

[@GOTCONNOR]

Love to see that Indie hasn’t forgotten his texan roots. Absolutely flawless accent.

[@geniemiki]

I really like the little bubble in the beginning that helps visualise last week's event :)

[@bob494949]

I’ve lived my entire 60 year life knowing how WWII turned out. But, at the time of the war this vid covers, things looked very grim for the Allies. My Dad said it was a scary time to grow up. He literally thought the Nazis and the Japanese would invade one day (the USA). I can’t imagine what that was like. It must’ve seemed like the shadow of evil was falling all over the world.

[@amerigo88]

And JRR Tolkien was in Britain writing the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

[@danielgreen3715]

You have got to admit "kido Butai" Has had one heck of a Pacific Tour!! A right menace!!

[@nygothuey6607]

Will Spartacus be covering the "Bataan Death March" more thoroughly on WaH? While it will be a difficult subject (As is most everything covered on WaH.) it definitely deserves more scrutiny. Also just wanted to shout thanks to everyone that works on this show. You're doing great work.

[@ChevyChase301]

The sad reality is it wasn’t even top 100 most evil things Japan did when compared to bubonic plague, bayoneting women and children, but I agree it should be discussed.

[@nygothuey6607]

@@ChevyChase301 You're not wrong, though it should still be covered, if for no other reason than to keep the memory of the men, women, and children that were murdered during that brutal march alive. The more light that is shone on all of these crimes, the more difficult they are to deny.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Yes

[@jamesbednar8625]

At White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico, the US Army still conducts a Bataan Death March. It is in commemoration of the actual death March. Believe it is roughly 25 miles in length. While in the US Army, had always wanted to participate but could never get the proper permission from leadership to attend. Has been an ongoing event for past 30+ years.

[@ArnoldOldSchool]

My Great Uncle Ornie Kudick was a POW and took part in the Bataan death march. He survived and came home to farm in Wisconsin until his death in the early 90s. His brother (Elroy) served as a paratrooper in France days after D-Day. Their youngest brother (Norman) served 20 years, taking part in both Korea and Vietnam.

[@GoldPicard]

"Remember Bataan, Never Forget" motto of the 1-194th CAB.

[@nickthenoodle9206]

Time to continue watching this most excellent series.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you for watching every week

[@rorymcclernon4674]

This series is amazing.

[@DarrylMiglio]

"of course that can't happen"!!! Thanks again for an excellent episode

[@WorldWarTwo]

You're welcome!

[@ryandaverayla4910]

My ancestor, private Alberto Rayla, fought in Bataan and was forced to take part in the Death March. He died in Camp O'Donnel.

[@alanmoffat4454]

THANKS TOO ALL THAT MAKE THESE PROGRAMMES , STILL NO NOTIFICATIONS FOR SPARTYS VIDS .

[@anssimyllymaki1624]

Indy on the phone: That's wildly speculative.... well, that's how you see it. I have to hung up now, mom, i'm on KZbin.

[@ianendangan7462]

Thank You for featuring Bataan. Last Friday April 9, 2021 it was Bataan Day a National Holiday in the Philippines.

[@jrapcdaikari]

Araw ng Kagitingan: Day of Valor The Fall of Bataan

[@paulcool4384]

When I hear Indy talk week after week it is like he just knows what the future will bring ... How does he do it ??? Keep up the good work !

[@bangscutter]

I'm guessing Indy only briefly mentioned the infamous Bataan death march, because Spartacus will cover it more in-depth in the crimes against humanity series?

[@Southsideindy]

Good guess.

[@Raskolnikov70]

Almost certainly. Watch this series long enough and you can guess which events will get their own episodes.

[@skinnex3236]

Just thanks for everything guys, your the best

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you for your kind words :)

[@BadLogan426]

Love you guys and hoping for more Sabaton History

[@TheEvenBiggerPicture]

Great stuff, keep them coming

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thanks, we will!

[@patrickweber3954]

Let's not forget the Filipino resistance against Japanese Occupation!

[@hcir5341]

This is an american channel so they focus entirely on themselves of course.

[@AstropilotStudios]

​@@hcir5341 Why should it take a different accent and ethnicity to make you have some readable sense? Brainless.

[@hcir5341]

@@AstropilotStudios wtf are you talking about?

[@AstropilotStudios]

@@hcir5341 I'm calling you wrong.

[@emmanroyhippy6859]

Well, they had a special episode of Thailand as the part of Axis nation. So hopefully they will had the episode for Filipino guerillas.

[@evanmcculfor7749]

Somehow the editing is just getting better and better! Well done!

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thanks!

[@Erik-ko6lh]

My Father was in a Air Force Recon Wing in the late 50s. The Wing had 3 ex Army Air Corp vets from Clark Field/Bataan with congressional metals of honor. Each man was completely broken. Every morning they were issue two bottles of grain alcohol and would return to quarters.

[@stevekaczynski3793]

Some winners of the highest decorations for valour went on to have quite sad lives even if they survived. Post-traumatic stress disorder seems to be common for them.

[@katalbinson6562]

I love Indy’s accent at the very end of the video!

[@Matt-yb9ju]

Love how real time gives a better perspective on just how far the Kido Butai travelled in such a short time frame. They must have seemed like ghosts. Well, until the codebreakers busted them.

[@amerigo88]

They were busted at both the Battle of the Coral Sea and at Midway.

[@NedPhilanders493]

Great episode as always, but no mention of Leonard Birchall? Aka the Saviour of Ceylon? Thats one Canadian who deserves a shoutout on this show.

[@Collectorfirearms]

It's funny because I know you're going to be saying "this week comes the fall of Bataan" again

[@ITF_Jeezus]

That map on the south summer offensive plans in the USSR is really great work!

[@gunman47]

I do hope the lack of radar on the Imperial Japanese Navy's Kido Butai will not come back to bite them one day. They might have been lucky to escape the air attack by the Bristol Blenheim bombers this time, but they may not be so lucky the second time.

[@principalityofbelka6310]

Hah! Radars are not necessary for the Kido Butai! The offensive spirit of the Japanese navy will prevail against the so called superior allied equipment.

[@amerigo88]

British carrier doctrine with its biplane torpedo bombers (Swordfish) relied on night attacks, as demonstrated when they clobbered the Italian battleships at Taranto. If they had found Kido Butai in the dark... (Great book recommendation - “To War in a Stringbag.” The author fought many battles, including the raid on Taranto.)

[@mjbull5156]

Or their lack of central direction over how their CAPs engage threats.

[@kemarisite]

@Thanos 6.0 "Men's eyes see well enough."

[@zainabbasi8304]

What need. Japan has essentially won. I am sure it won't come back to bite them at all.

[@pietro2546]

thanks for the amazing commentary, each saturday it's a wonderful day

[@stevekaczynski3793]

Did Japanese carriers have onboard radar? The Blenheim incident suggests not.

[@Yamato-tp2kf]

The radar was a British invention, the British due to the Lend-lease, passed the technology the Americans who mass produced to equip their Navy and Army

[@naveenraj2008eee]

Hi indy and team Another exciting week.. Never heard of batan death march.. Thanks to you to learn about dark side of history.. Awaiting for next week.. Thanks

[@beknown63]

Germany: if we take Moscow, Russia will be forced to surrender! Japan: if we take Hawaii, the US will be forced to surrender! I’m noticing a pattern here...

[@DrendarMorevo]

If say, there was a major naval battle at a place called Midway, might you guys do an entire episode on just it?

[@noeenricodomanais2517]

Yesterday, my country commemorated the 79th anniversary of the Fall of Bataan

[@jimplummer4879]

My mother worked with a survivor years ago, she said he suffered from health problems all his life.

[@belbrighton6479]

I had no idea the Japanese were so victorious in Asia. Australia and India are really threatened and I don’t see any hope. Or how Japan did not end up winning the war in the Pacific. My heart goes out to the men of the Royal Navy who met a watery end. We shall remember them.

[@nbarrett100]

Don't worry if you missed that minor detail at 9:54, it probably won't come up again or end up being very important

[@rmcl7583]

A great reminder how Philippines fought to very end even it was abandoned by United States of America. Fellow Filipinos should consider this lesson in dealing with current situation in Sount China Sea. As a lot is of people are clamoring for war with China. Filipinos never learned from the past and allowed politicians to weaken the state to a state which is now. To the heroes of Battan lest we forget.

[@ennui9745]

No one's "clamoring" for a war with China, but China might attack us anyway whether you like it or not.

[@rmcl7583]

@@ennui9745 have you not seen what the media propaganda, commentaries, and people in the internet had been asking for a long time. Which is the military option against China which we all know will never prosper since the decay of AFP is so evident the even Singapore could take over in a matter of weeks.

[@ennui9745]

@@rmcl7583 China isn't as powerful as you think it is. Their economy is collapsing right now.

[@nikosgeorgiou9020]

Briliant presentation!Bravo Indie.!

[@DaveSCameron]

For a nation whom we're told explored, exploited and ruled the waves for over 300 years or so it is especially embarrassing for the Royal Navy to underestimate the Imperial Japanese Navy to such an extent as to bring the proverbial knife to a gunfight... Just as Rome found out and The United States will do, laurels are hardly bedding and bloated, greed and condescension must be addressed..

[@dumptrump3788]

When I watch this World War Two channel I am reminded of an old TV show called "The Wold At War", filmed in the late 60s & early 70s & first broadcast in 1973. It was probably the last chance to record in person the testimony of those directly involved in WW2. By this stage the Axis War Criminals were mostly out of prison & while they were getting old this made them inclined to take the opportunity to tell their side of the story. Narrated perfectly by (Later Sir) Lawrence Olivier, the series itself ran for 26 episodes & a TON of recorded material wasn't even used, but still turns up now & then in other historical shows. I can heartily recommend it.