[137] How To Beat Your First False Set (Lock Picking Basics)

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Please Stay Tuned For More Lock Picking Home School and Featured Channel Of The Week Videos Alternating Each Wednesday!

[@The_Top_Striker]

HelpfulLockPicker can you show us how to repin a practice lock?

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Base Gaming I have several videos on guttong and reassembly and also one on the clear padlock. What would you like specifically

[@The_Top_Striker]

I bought a practice lock and it says i can repin it by lifting the removable lid I just dont understand the repinning part

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Base Gaming check out video 112 and video 81 and let me know if that helps

[@terrysmith5341]

Like to see lesson on high security euro locks with anti side bump pins being picked

[@The_Top_Striker]

The most understandable vid for false sets

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Base Gaming thank you for the kind words, I am glad it helps 😀

[@studentism]

i love the account name change after this comment was made. makes it extremely ominous

[@The_Top_Striker]

@@studentism 🤣🤣

[@911fbi2]

lol agree

[@billbrogan1948]

Clearest explanation by far of what a false set is. Thanks a million HP.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words, I'm glad it helps!

[@taijmohabeer4515]

You and lock picking lawyer are my best teachers

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words

[@PaulHofreiter]

This is a really smart way to show people what is happening rather than just describing it. I have been watching your videos for the past week while practicing and both enjoy them and have learned a lot. I just entered my second week of picking and have gotten up to an American 1106 so far which was not as hard as I was anticipating but this video really helped with what to expect from the security pins. I’m inconsistent though because even though the American has a decently low pin in the middle making it somewhat interesting, I still have problems with locks that should be easier than that one. I’m sure that watching more of your videos will help though so thank you again for all of the time and effort you took making these videos.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Paul Hofreiter congrats on the opens just practice, practice, practice it will come with time:)

[@The_Top_Striker]

I also really love how you try to answer all the comments. Most youtubers don't do that.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Base Gaming I try my best, it is a lot of comments some days

[@BMWguns]

Another great video, I have just started in picking with spools pins and this helps a lot, thank you.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words, I am glad it helps. My next few Lock Picking Home School videos will be on spool pins. If you have any questions feel free to ask!

[@kingbeauregard]

I find that the secret to false sets and spool pins is fine-tuning how much tension one applies -- just enough tension to lend a little resistance / friction to the pins, but no more. Also, there will be oversets, and releasing the tension just the tiniest bit to release the oversets (and then probably increasing the tension again in the next nanosecond) is a talent I'm working on. On occasion I've gotten past spool pins by mashing all the pins up as far as they go, holding them in overset position via too much tension, and then easing up so that the oversets free themselves as described above. This isn't a great technique and I've abandoned it for the most part, but I think it helped train me to handle ovesets better.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

kingbeauregard have you heard of reverse picking? That sounds a little bit like your second technique it's a pretty cool technique when it works

[@yogidemis8513]

Yes, definitely helpful info. I just got my first lock pick set yesterday and this explains everything and the reason why I'm having issues. I now can pick the lock every time in just a few seconds. Appreciate it.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps!

[@AlbertLebel]

This is a great example of picking a lock. This is also a great example of why I try not to do too much to the challenge lock pins so they dont give much of a false set. I believe spool pins can help you pick a lock. Due to their wonderful feed back.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Albert Lebel I agree, spools can make a lock easier to SPP but the do make low skill attacks harder

[@first2find]

Thank you for spending so much of your time to instruct us on so many of the variations that are found in lock picking. It is such a great help!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

first2find that's no problem I have fun doing it :) I'm glad it helps!

[@andrewfields8556]

Man... I finally understand false sets and counter rotation. This was so step by step and very visual, I need it that way. Thanks...

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words

[@gantry289]

Well done, a good explanation. Using the protractor was a good visual.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Gantry thank you for the kind words! I'm glad it helps :)

[@punchyscyllarus565]

i'd been counter-rotating to pick locks without knowing why. good to know that dropping pins you've already picked is normal. thanks for the great explanation!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps!

[@gmackuk]

Just watched this video great explanation with exaggerated tension bar . One of the best explanations I have saw. Very professional well done 👍

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

thanks for checking it out and I'm glad it helps!

[@ashleymarie7452]

I'm a big fan of the lockpicking lawyer; but you explain important concepts that I haven't heard him cover. Thanks!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thanks for checking it out and I am glad it helps!

[@XplayeroneX]

Great instructional video man. I had an idea of what to do from watching a bunch of videos where folks have encountered false sets, but this really put it into perspective for me as someone just getting into the game considering I haven't yet built up a collection of locks to practice on. Thank a lot for taking your time to visually explain this!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words! I'm glad it helps :)

[@paddlefaster]

Great explanation of false sets.i just started picking and everytime I've been getting a false set I've started over.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words! I wish you luck on starting to master spool pins

[@123youknowme]

I've been trying to find out what a false set was and nothing I read or watched made any sense until I watched this video. Thanks! I do have a question that perhaps one of your videos explains but is there a simple way of telling which direction to apply tension while picking?

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

You tension in the direction you want to open. Deadbolts always open away from the door frame. If you pick it the wrong way you can always use a plug spinner to fix it.

[@CedarRoot]

I picked my first lock with spool pins right after watching this video. Thanks!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words. Congrats on the success

[@briarberrycove5218]

Another great video my friend. I should just be using cut and past with your channel. Another great video my friend. Seriously though, you definitely have great content with a wide learning curve. As always, keep up the good work, and keep them videos coming!!!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Briarberrycove thank you for the kind words :-) the videos are fun to make and I'm glad to help give back to the community

[@kenc4104]

Your videos are by far the best for we noobs.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words. I am glad to help

[@RovingARock]

Love the visual of the protractor! Great video and explanation.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words and I'm glad it helped!

[@LockNoob]

Another great, helpful vid :-)

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Lock Noob thank you for the kind words 😀

[@The_Top_Striker]

Holy S#!% Lock Noob commented on HeLP's vid 2 great channels in one!

[@LockNoob]

Base Gaming I love this channel :-) it’s perfect for pickers who want to know more about technique and broaden their skill set :-)

[@The_Top_Striker]

U should do a collaboration

[@barnettbursley7789]

Love the video and the info.These help my progress.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Barnett Bursley thank you for the kind words, I am glad they are helping :-)

[@wienershnizal]

Super helpful my buddy!:) False sets are now a sintch!😀

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Rob Patrick thank you for the kind words!

[@778carly]

Great video for us beginner pickers.Very well explained! Keep the vids coming!!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@DeLuini985]

Very clear and graphic. Thank you very much.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for checking it out and I am glad it helps!

[@89Supanova]

Nice, I got into a false set 3 times tonight with a lock I've spent about 6 hours trying to pick, I'll beat it tomorrow!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

You will get there

[@JM-ci1xl]

Awesome content man. Very helpful for learning the mechanics /logic for a beginner

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps!

[@curtisyue182]

Thanks for the video, this explains a lot. I been practicing on my garage door one day and I hit what i believe is a false set. It kinda turned about 10 degrees (exactly what you showed) and I tried for about a minute to tension it open cause i thought i beat the lock. I see now what really happened lmao

[@Kevinr14]

If you have 4 spools and one standard, do you have to set the standard pin first to be in a false set prior to setting the spool pins? If you lose your false set, do you have to get it back again before picking the spools again?

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Once you pick the standard pin the false set should present. However, some spools sit on top of tall key pins where the thinner diameter actually never comes into play

[@kaich369]

Wonder if there are locks with all spool pins out there.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

There are plenty of locks out in the wild that use them

[@ImNotLikeYouGaming]

Awesome video, probably the best on KZbin

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

I couldn't agree more

[@martyhastings9347]

some really good info. thanks for sharing

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Marty Hastings thank you for the kind words :)

[@MyTube4Utoo]

Great demonstration.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thanks for checking it out!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

thanks for checking it out :-)

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

I'm stuck on a storage disk type lock (with the shackle that runs the outer circumference of the pancake style lock body) that doesn't seem to give any feedback whatsoever. I've tried raking and IPP and can't seem to get a pin to set enough to get any rotation or any false sets. I am utterly stumped. I've tried both high and low tension, and a variety of different hooks. The key pattern has a very aggressive teeth, with one set all the way up and the following as far down as that style allows I suppose. I guess I'm probably interfering with the set somehow with my hook, but I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

some of those can be tough in general and have a tough keyway. I would just put it down and come back to it in a week or so

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

@@HelpfulLockPicker Thanks! I do feel like I’m getting a feel with the hooks and have had success with other locks, but this one is tough (Started picking two months ago). I almost bought another one from Harbor Freight just now to see if I could pick a different one (mine is from a Uhaul self storage).

[@KoolBreeze420]

Yeah, I'm pretty good at picking locks but I now have the Sparrows revolver challenge lock and it produces false sets and when I get one I stand no chance of getting out of it I either have to reset and hope I don't get it or simply fail, but there is one key position that false sets every time now and I can't figure out how to get through it. I can't seem to make my cutaway produce a false set so I can see what it's doing, so here I am, I hope this video will help me.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

It might be easier if you practice on a more standard lock. It think Kwikset is a good lock to learn on

[@KoolBreeze420]

@@HelpfulLockPicker I have all of the Sparrows Schlage locks from 2 to 5, the cutaway. The revolver is the 1st lock that I've been able to get a false set on not sure why. I even have the pin reload kit and the master key set. On lock 3 of the revolver, it has mushroom pins and it produces a false set that I just can't seem to recover from. Sparrows don't have Kwikset type locks and the site I found them on are just too expensive when you tack on shipping. So these are the locks I have I also have a few Schlage commercial locks but the cores in the mortise locks I have, the tolerances make security pins useless they just don't fit in tight enough to make the security pins effective. The revolver is currently the only lock that I can get to create a false set but it has only been a few weeks. If I could just figure out a way to produce a false set in my cutaway it would truly help me but this video has given me an idea as to what is happening, so I'll just keep practising until I get through it.

[@jerrydoyle5622]

awesome teaching. thank you for sharing.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@JMLockpicking]

Interesting video...Took me a while of watching wizwazzle vids, go realize what was going on, back in the day.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@hickspanicKS]

Great video, helpful content. Keep up the good work! 👍

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words and I'm glad it helps!

[@DonzLockz]

Great practical info.👍🏽😎

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@razoredgechris]

ok well i have a new question (BTW thanks for anwering one of my other questions several days ago)... I have a standard door lock on my bedroom and both times ive managed to get it almost picked it goes into a extremely deep false set almost to the point its should be unlocked but its doesnt fully unloc.. like its 3/4 of the way there... i cant imagine it being super high security since i am pretty sure it was a cheap one from menards or even walmart.... im curious what could cause such a deep false set in a cheaper lock like this.. could it actually be trap pins? and i wonder how i would know without gutting (assuming its even possible) it to see whats inside... Id love to defeat this one now!!!

[@razoredgechris]

i just tried our front door and the same thing happened.. **confused look**

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

To start off you shouldn't pick locks in use it is a bad practice. I would have to see a photo of the degree of false set but it could possibly have a t pin which could be causing it. Regardless of it being a t pin or spool it would take the same way

[@razoredgechris]

@@HelpfulLockPicker i think i can give you a mental image at least, because it was the same degree of false set on both locks.. it stopped at the 9'oclock position. And i wont do it on my front door anymore.. my bedroom door i am not as worried about since it was more about privacy than security. I did ask in a facebook grop and somoen said it could be construction keyed, but i dont think that is what i bought. Unless i did it without realizing what they were.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

@@razoredgechris If it had construction keying the original key would likely not work anymore, does it still work? You are probably stuck on a spool over a short key pin

[@miked6825]

Super helpful. Thanks 👍

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thanks for checking it out!

[@eagleeyeviewimages]

Great explaining

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Glad it was helpful!

[@stahinjakrackovic2087]

But what is false gate?

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

That's more of a term for locks that use other mechanism

[@stahinjakrackovic2087]

@@HelpfulLockPicker thanks! Btw, i learned a lot from ur vids. Im new around here, and i need a good explains how locks works. So funny hobby!

[@stahinjakrackovic2087]

Btw i have one question. Im waiting for my new huk red dimple pick set to arrive, but i saw from BBs video, that tools from this set is too thick for a lot of keways. So can i sandpaper them to get 0025 or whatever?

[@stahinjakrackovic2087]

Same with tension tools

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

@@stahinjakrackovic2087 A lot of the simple sets you need to customize to make work better. Hopefully this link helps imgur.com/a/9xG5Z

[@kenkinlaw6591]

Great video

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thanks 😊

[@valqueenofValhalla]

Do you Bosnian bill much bro

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Nope, I hardly watch any of his videos

[@ccmogs5757]

Good vid. , as a noob this is 1 vid. i"m glad i seen :]

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

CC MOGS thank you for the kind words

[@Merkenau]

The outro sounded like a young "the lockpicking lawyer" xD

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for your feedback, I hope the video was helpful :)

[@Merkenau]

Don't know, where my "PS" comment went, but it's working great. You saved my evening ;*

[@Goodpatron]

I feel like this guy is trying too hard to be like the Lockpickinglawer. He's even trying to emulate his way of talking. LAWL!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thanks for sharing

[@userou-ig1ze]

seems fake

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thanks for sharing

[@paperinik69]

Man your autofocus is horrible it gave me a headache