Streamer Shoot-Out 2 : Apps (Roon, WiiM App, BluOS, Primare Prisma)

[@cheeky1664]

As ever, a considered, informed, and informative video. You present your videos in a way that your audience (of which I'm a regular) will find so relatable. Thank you! 😁😁😁

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thanks too cheeky.

[@gaetancharbonneau3902]

Absolutly!

[@TheVoicefrombelow]

Oh! Thanks for including the update from Primare. As the owner of a i15 prisma amp and user of Tidal that's great news!

[@ch33psk8]

Thanks for quality presentation and contemporary info.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thanks too 🙏😀

[@paulbutler8737]

Fantastic video as usual very informative and lovely tribute to the Queen

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thanks very much Paul. Was quite a moving day for me that. 😀👍

[@spoonssimpkins7053]

Another top piece of content! So, Si, I have decided to pull the trigger on an upgrade! Going to partner the 2 Arcam Alpha 10's, and Cambridge CXN V2 with either B&W nautilus 804 or the 804S or, depending how the saving goes the 802. I have figured out (with a bit of help) that the Arcams will power both 804 and 802 to a decent level. They will be my forever speakers (probably) then I can upgrade amps and source as and when, that is all, as you were brother.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Good one, thank you. Have fun with it. 🎼🔉🎧

[@ZigUncut]

This is what I've been looking for. Well done sir.

[@urbenkam]

I recently tried roon , jriver and audirivana. Just for sound quality I found jriver to be superior with upsampling mode.

[@sabrowenie]

Great video. Most streamers are pretty capable. I’m a BluOS user, but mostly use Tidal Connect. IMO it’s usability’ of the app that’s the tipping point when entering the vendor’s ecosystem. There’s at least three vendors using a version of the Linkplay app. That’s the WiiM people. Years ago, bought the original Audioengine B-Fi streamer. It’s a capable device but crippled by a horrible UI. Brought it out of ‘storage’. Yup the WiiM app will find and control it. Tried it on my buddy’s Songbird…yup works there too.

[@bradbortner2601]

Leaving out Sonos again. Yes, their player does not do high res, but their app, in my experience is better. It gives a true unified search across services. Its cataloging and access of NAS stored files is also really easy. I tried bluesound, but the app drove me back to a sonos port, which i feed into an ifi ipure 2 which then feeds an ares 2 dac.

[@antoniomarsicola8608]

Fantastic video! I'm just missing Volumio and a bit more insights on how Qobuz is managed and on how well gapless is implemented

[@kentlarsen578]

Fantastic overview, thank you!

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thanks too Kent 😀👍

[@kingtubby999]

Is vtuner available on BluOs?, this is the best internet radio platform for non US stations...It didn't used to be, maybe it has changed

[@fabianpresslaber9576]

thanks for this comparison! I love Bluesound! Cheers

[@willjohnson2722]

I wish I didn't have to pay for ROON every month but, it works really well. Really stable, sounds great and interesting you've done this now- weirdly enough there's some marketing coming from Roon that they have something big coming on September 20th. Pretty curious as to what that is... For stability, sound and navigation qualities, Roon is a winner for me.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

I saw that Will, people are speculating about some type of mobile roon but I don’t know. A good guess maybe 🤔

[@willjohnson2722]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 Ah. I hope it has some little tweaks like being able to swipe backwards and forwards through pages like I can on webpages (I use a mac laptop). And a bit better drag and drop/adaptability of the play queue.

[@RumblestripDotNet]

Roon does offer a lifetime option. You will half to go It will take you about 6 years to break even.

[@catherinelugg4321]

Thank you for this discussion. I think we're at the spot where half-baked software can really crash a product. So, while I use BlueOS, Roon, and KEF, the KEF software is just a horror (LS50 wireless version 1). BlueOS is lovely, and Roon is even better. So, I avoid the KEF apps, and stick with BlueOS and Roon. And thank you for the lovely remembrances of QEII.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thanks very much Catherine, and can’t use anything other than Roon nowadays.

[@catherinelugg4321]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 Yeah, I got a crow-bar out, opened my wallet, and paid for a life-time subscription. And then I convinced one of my brothers to do the same. If one is totally into music, it's well-worth the expense.

[@ronsummerill2496]

Very well presented.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thank you Ron

[@michaelswitzer3186]

Question please: I just purchased the Graham LS 6 speakers and I want to buy a streaming set up. The problem is that I am older and pretty helpless when it comes to technology so in addition to sound quality a very important priority for me is ease and simplicity of use. I will only use it to stream directly from streaming services (no personal files, CDs, phono; currently I use TIDAL, Amazon HD and perhaps Quobuz in the future). It appears that bluOS may be the easiest to use. Do you have a view as to whether the Node, if paired with a sufficiently powerful integrated amplifier, would be sufficient to get enough out of the L6 speakers or is there another device with bluOS - or any other system that’s easy to use - that you might suggest. Thank you.

[@vincentmanners2589]

Thanks

[@alexvlach4897]

Can anyone confirm if the Primare Prisma app supports folder view when using a local USB thumb drive?

[@ThanhLe-xt2xy]

There are 2 new streamers: musical fidelity mx stream and ifi neo stream. Hope you could review them

[@geoffreydebrito7934]

Thanks for the heads up. The iFi retails for $1300. USD and The MF MX for $1100. USD. The iFi includes a high res DAC, the MF MX does not.

[@michaelreading5684]

I’m still confused about streamers, I stream from an iPod/iPad straight to a pair of wireless kef lsx. Are you saying if I send that signal to a streamer, I will get better sound. Please tell me the answer Simon

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

The Kef lsx have streaming built in so you prob don’t need one Michael

[@michaelreading9296]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 thank you Simon

[@E.T.Persson]

great

[@na2305]

Bluos is the way to go

[@peddie1972]

Just too bad that you missed out on the LUMIN streamers and the LUMIN app. The best, according to me.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

I may do in the future. Donno.

[@jpgsf1978]

What about the Innuos Sense app ?

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Innuos not part of shoot out

[@jpgsf1978]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 I understand but the app is terrific. Will you be including it in a future shoot out ?

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

I’ll see if I can mention it but I’m gonna look at audirvana in more detail first I think

[@jpgsf1978]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 Sounds good !

[@dixieflatline1189]

I have been using Audrivana for 6 years. It beats Roon for sound quality, but loses out on app user experience & network capability. I have not tried Roon via a dedicated Nucleus - just through a networked Mac mini. I cant comment on if this improves SQ - but it would increase the price considerably. I have an old Auralic Aries V1 with upgraded power supply sitting in a box somewhere. They SQ of that was very similar to Audrivana (i.e. very good) but the software and app was awful and became frustrating to use, hence now in a box