+14 DB NO HEALS | VDH + 3x Ret Paladin (timed)

[@slaphappy1574]

Ignore the naysayers, title is exactly as the video. Kudos to you and the group, well played. I've done a few no heal runs, highest was a 15

[@allthefox]

No heal 15s are huge! What was the comp?

[@nayakanvdh]

Can you make a video of timing a Siege key, your videos have been extremely helpful for learning VDH and seeing the routes/pulls you take. Thank you.

[@allthefox]

It’s on the agenda 🫡

[@allthefox]

@nayakanvdh a siege done, will post tomorrow 😊

[@Rendasd]

Ret is so mind numbingly easy and does so much damage in AoE (Mythic+). Not sure why they let it go this long but hey, what the hell. lol

[@snowballs2023]

Video all fussy it wont let me pick any resolution

[@allthefox]

Should be good now!

[@arsinsohrabi759]

@@allthefox its good now

[@MrVaeron]

While i appreciate this content and approach to Keys, its a bit hillarious to call it "no heals" when the group is made up of one tank with crazy self heal, one tank with crazy self- & offheal and the 3 DPS with good offhealing that also have the best DR and can apply most of those externally, lol. Prot and Retri Pala need some serious tuning going into S2. I have seen Prot Palas doing ~1,4 Mio. offhealing in high keys, its just BS.

[@allthefox]

I understand your point, and I agree - prot paladin literally doing this much off-healing such that it can stand-in for an ACTUAL healer is a problem. A 15 SV was timed with two prot paladins, ffs. That said, prot paladin is not a healer. There is technically no healer in the run. The fact that the prot pally did 14% of my total incoming healing (disc priest usually does 20%) that key speaks volumes to how overtuned they are re: healing.

[@Rendasd]

Paladin mythic+ performance is disliked as much as it is because it not only SUPER easy to play it but also have no real weaknesses defensively because of good self-healing options and down right immunity. By far it is the most simplistic and easiest class to execute its rotation and party roles in the game while still numerically being superior to many other specs. Of course blizzard understands this and are leaving it alone for now (No it's not because Metzen mains Paladin lol) Shaman performs better with more specs and categories than Paladin but has so more weaknesses and a harder rotation in the form of Enhancement (Ele less so). TLDR. Paladin is very easy to play and hard to kill, and it's numbers are a bit overturned for its lack of weaknesses. There is no high risk/high reward, it's low risk and high reward.

[@TheSlashoxx]

While you are clearly a good VDH everything you say and type makes me wonder if you actually understand much about mythic plus apart from your own role in a group

[@allthefox]

@@TheSlashoxx I’m not sure what precisely gives you that impression, but I can’t say that I’ve ever claimed to deeply understand every element of the game in a micro sense. On the contrary, I very often say I don’t while I stream!

[@bun5118]

I can just tell you're a basement dweller from this comment.

[@Mysticmanaged]

Lets see your IO then? Obviously you have to be rated pretty high to be calling out someone timing 16s