14 HOURS on Royal Air Maroc: Africa's forgotten airline?

[@Paul_Lucas]

Secure your privacy with @Surfshark ! Enter coupon code WINGINIT for an extra 4 months free at surfshark.deals/winginit In this video I take the forgotten carrier Royal Air Maroc on a transatlantic voyage to New York! This is my first time flying RAM - what was it like? And, was it worth the low air fare but inconvenient routing to garner 280 tier points for my BA account? Find out... Follow me on Twitter: @paul_winginit ¦ twitter.com/paul_winginit Follow me on Instagram/Threads: paul_winginit ¦ instagram.com/paul_winginit Merch store: wingin-it.teemill.com/collection/all-products/ I made a Bright Trip guide: www.brighttrip.com/europebytrain

[@ScottMatthews-gk8ef]

I avoid flying any 787 Dreamliner at all costs purely because of the potential for the windows to be centrally locked. The very point of these windows were that they were around 30% larger so as to offer a better flying experience. Windows & shades should never be compulsorily locked or pulled down by crew - if you wish to sleep in daylight, wear eye shades. The Dreamliner promised a renaissance but in fact destroyed the joy of flying simply because of the central locking window feature. For each & every flight I take, I’d rather switch off the IFE & marvel at the world outside & below. I was looking forward to travelling Air Maroc next month for the first time in thirty years but will be rebooking with BA as a result of this video so thank you.

[@herenow6953]

Same here. I was going to fly to Perth on Qantas from LHR - but saw reviews of the crew locking the windows and instead flew Singapore Airlines via Singapore. I will actively avoid the 787 purely on this basis. I don't care how good the airline is or the price, I don't want someone else controlling what I can and can't look at out of the window!

[@simonallen7872]

Yes. I NEVER book this aircraft unless no alternative. VS are also known for locking down windows. I choose the window to see the world and know that my holiday has begun. Even worse, when it is dawn outside - they remain blank. BUT when they want to wake you up, there is an electronic 'sunrise' invented by the kiddiwinks asked to make something 'new and funky'. This year we have to be on a VS 789 and the trip will be horrible - despite the fact that we shall be in Upper Class.

[@antonydavies8379]

I work on the Boeing 787 as the senior cabin crew member, I never allow crew to lock out the windows day or night, I also frequently monitor the control panel for them, and unlock them if I discover they have been locked by other crew members. It’s part of the service standards that the customer at the window chooses on all types, except for taxi , take off or landing when they should always be set to clear.

[@herenow6953]

Which airline? I actively avoid the 787 purely on this basis. Who the hell do the crew think they are?! people use eyeshades if they want dark!

[@james7149]

Two priorities on board for me…window control and fresh air vents. Window control especially in economy as it’s more likely you won’t sleep and the views can help pass time.

[@carolinahintze7190]

day flight=day light. If you would like to sleep, use mask. Day light(or night time) is useful to adjust your body to new timezones Good videos!

[@Paul_Lucas]

Thanks for sharing! Yes I agree. Use the eye mask if you’d like to sleep 😊

[@countbenjamin1442]

I agree with mask but some people aren't use to them and can't sleep with them. That is why I think they dimmed the lights and shades so people may sleep

[@robertcurrie9977]

So glad that you try the local food options. Honestly have no idea why some flight vloggers seem terrified to eat anything than what they'd eat at home (and then complain that it't not as good as the food they're used to.)

[@mike48084]

Bc they are white

[@julienfroidevaux1143]

​@@mike48084Nice bit of racism there . How many Brazilian restaurants in India ? How many white chefs in Chinese kitchen/ restaurants within China or outside it ?

[@jessicamarie8299]

@@mike48084And i’m proud to be whttte!

[@jessicamarie8299]

@@mike48084you must be brown. Y’all wish you could be whtte

[@jessicamarie8299]

@@mike48084proud to the whtttte we are gods chosen people

[@reaperx2657]

I absolutely hate it when the crew decides to take away your ability to look out the window especially on west bound flights. I want to use the sun to adjust to the timezone. Plus, I love looking down on areas I'll probably never travel to like Greenland.

[@nazlitechschool]

Royal Air Maroc´s food looks amazing and the Moroccan art details look good. Morocco is an amazing country.

[@jessicamarie8299]

It’s a poor country

[@bkkmj4250]

B787 window thing is a mess, love the A350 soooo much better!

[@ATFDFF]

I have printed out AA’s written statement/policy about not locking out the windows on their 787s and will happily go “full Karen” on any flight where they attempt to do so. I’ve only had to do more than ask for them to be unlocked four times during my AA travels but physically handing them this “reminder” has made all the difference during those four flights.

[@lanicotton8507]

I would not be happy if I couldn’t see out the window. That’s my most favorite thing to do and my biggest memory of flying. Seeing New York City at night from the air (the only way to see New York in my opinion) and watching thunderstorms in the distance over Texas.

[@Ozpif]

HATE when crew lock the windows dark. At any time, but especially on a day flight. For those that want to nap - use the provided eyeshades (that's what they're for), or bring your own better ones. It's really hard to arrive somewhere after a daytime flight when it's been dark the whole way, notwithstanding the joy of views from 32,000ft!

[@tropicalblum]

I 1000% agree

[@Feeldartcorp]

what views are you going to see 32k ft above the atlantic ocean?

[@mahzorimipod]

trash opinion

[@herenow6953]

@@Feeldartcorp Nothing - clouds - distant sea - I love to look at those too. Crew locking windows is a big NO from me.

[@SkiDaBird]

@@Feeldartcorp One of the most spectacular things I have ever seen was Greenland from just under 40k on an IST-ORD flight. Got it on a clear early winter day with the right light, and the mountains shimmering off the coast was jaw dropping.

[@BenM14-ZW11]

I have never flown on a Dreamliner but the ability for the crew to lock the windows puts me off. As a nervous flyer i like to look out of the window to settle my nerves, along with a large G&T!

[@ColinOBear]

I'd be furious having spent that much on a ticket to not be allowed to look out of the frigging window!!

[@xkr510]

Many airlines do this and it annoys the tar out of me as well. Plus being on two Boeings in a day would make me avoid that trip. That’s called bravery.

[@GrammarPoliceInvestigations]

@@xkr510 We all know Boeing doesn't have the best rep lately, but they've been making safe planes for decades and I'm sure they're fixing their errant ways.

[@jacobb213]

@@xkr510do you understand walking your dog on the street is infinitely more dangerous than getting on any airplane, even if it’s made by Boeing

[@lailamansour2056]

They only do it at night

[@docastrov9013]

Finnair black the windows over the North Pole during Summer 24 hour daylight.

[@nickaston2468]

It should be up to the customer whether or not they want the windows 'open' or 'dark', I mean, you pay the money for that window seat, so you should have the choice whether or not you want to look out of it. If someone in the cabin doesn't want daylight, then they should use the eyeshades.

[@StreaksSkunk]

I have to say, Paul, as someone fromt Eastern Canada, I'm beyond pleased to know you can say "Newfoundland" properly vs what seems like 99% of other non-Canadian KZbinrs lol

[@frankbarr1101]

Window blackout would be a negative game changer for me!

[@egpx]

I'm getting to the stage where if I had a choice between a 787 and any other type, I'd go for the other type. That is purely down to the fact that I like a window seat because it has a window next to it and I like to look out of it. If the cabin crew block the light, all you have is a wall.

[@travelscholar]

Those windows are my least favourite thing on the 787 and another reason I strongly prefer Airbus. The cabin crew do have the ability to unlock individual windows on request if you can find a cooperative one.

[@davidsavage6227]

I don’t mind the crew dimming the windows, but perhaps limit that by half or two-thirds. The narrowed bandwidth still helps with lower lighting and would let passengers take it from there. It is still pretty dark and gives some form of control back to people who prefer a better view.

[@whatever8282828]

I'd also be aggravated at the crew blacking out the windows on the entire plane, especially in upper class where a bright window might only bother 1 or 0 people! I think I've seen some peoples' videos where a 787 only locked it at 50% dark instead of as far as it goes.

[@manuelgorgulho2209]

Forgotten Airline? NSH Aviation would beg to differ on that. Thank you for letting us come along on your travels.

[@kevanhubbard9673]

One of Africa's 3 monarchies along with;Lesotho and Eswatini(Swaziland as was).Morocco and Algeria don't get along and the land border was shut and might well still be .

[@alexosborne5629]

Windows are there to be used ! I'm lucky, my better half allows me to sit by the window, she usually has her head buried in a book while flying ! Last time we flew to New Orleans, I was lucky enough to catch an Emirates A380 flying across our path, about 1,00 feet below.... was able to take video footage of the event ! 😃

[@robertcurrie9977]

I can see the case for windows darkened on some cases - I've been on midsummer overnight flights on northerly routes where it doesn't get dark even at midnight - but otherwise, windows open in the daytime. After 25 years, I still carry a grudge about a flight on which the crew made everyone close the shades as we flew along the coast of Greenland on a cloudless day. This was before seatback screens, and the daylight was washing out the image on the pop-down screen. Apparently some people thought that watching the movie "What Do Women Want" starring Mel Gibson was more entertaining than a thousand miles of fjords and glaciers.

[@acfbrown1]

Looks like a really interesting airline. Not sure if I'll fly Air Maroc but I'd like to go to Morocco.

[@ZeuS44-g6y]

Morocco is a beautiful country.. it's main airline is garbage.. don't make the same mistake i did when i took my family you will regret it.

[@johnburke5384]

Their choice to dim the windows, my choice to fly with another carrier !

[@ExpatUA]

Cabin crew darkens the windows during daytime flights to simulate night and encourage passengers to sleep. Sleeping passengers don't ring the call button, so crew can relax and hide in the galleys. I disapprove of the practice.

[@davidconley6267]

Beg to differ. Any amenity kit that includes facial mist is a 10/10. Absolutely refreshing to me. Safe travels.

[@PaulB-17]

Would always try to avoid any plane with crew controlled windows if possible.

[@rickloduca394]

Thanks Paul! I will be flying RAM to from Casablanca in October, economy. But now I have an idea what to expect on the ground and in the air! Thanks again! 😊

[@rezaalan3991]

Great flight. From first flight with RAM in this video, just realized that between Morocco and Algeria the border is still closed, even the Moroccan Aircraft avoiding Algerian Airspace. Second flight is great, great seating, amenities, and food, but sadly no for pre landing meal, and maybe the lounge. But thankfully you got no lines or queues after immigration.

[@averestless]

Not avoiding. Algeria has closed its airspace for moroccan airplanes.

[@MrDutchVegas]

KLM does the same . Flew a weeks ago Salt lake to Amsterdam they closed it al up. It almost a reason to stop flying the 787.

[@cpritchett2098]

Good video as always. Not a fan of the crew locking the window shades on the Dreamliner. Thanks

[@fredrickphillips7009]

I am really feeling all of this music, especially the first song.

[@guilhermetavares4705]

I live in Brazil and until the pandemic started, Royal Air Maroc flew to Rio and São Paulo. I hope it comes back one day.

[@scottyerkes1867]

Lounge is lacking. Complete blackout seems odd but over the Atlantic is okay. Food looks good and glad you tried local dishes. Thanks Paul💚👌👍

[@jasonwagner5571]

I concur with the sentiment regarding eye masks. I enjoy flying and a major part of that is the view. Window lock-out is horrible!

[@calxtra5361]

INDIVIDUAL CONTROL OVER THE WINDOWS IS EXPECTED

[@gerrib1633]

I was starting to wonder if everything was okay! Glad to see another stellar upload.

[@Wenchework]

Face mist are a lifesaver spetialy when your ill operated on or it’s warm they cool the face down,as someone who gone thru several kidney issues and operations I now always have one on me incase I need to cool down my face

[@mattyh4945]

I don't mind crew dimming them to say half, as most will just leave it but locking it is really frustrating and locking them fully dark on a daytime flight is utter madness.

[@Thesmellofrain-h6o]

I Love your videos. You do a great job and you present well too. Please keep them coming, keep traveling! Happy travels!

[@jerryofsanfrancisco]

I love the electronic window shades & would like to see all aircraft with them. The customer should decide if they want the shades open or closed. And the window in the toilet is welcome - makes it seem less claustrophobic and larger!

[@Echo_Sierra]

The seats and layout appear to be identical to Air Canada's dreamliners, right down to the loo with the view.

[@mathboy1066]

I'm watching this with Surfshark, it's great. Nice video! ❤

[@Paul_Lucas]

Awesome! Thanks for supporting 😃

[@gunvaldsandhaland7757]

I Havent Experience Royal Air Maroc Nice Livery.Great Video And Info

[@dwblurb]

That lamb tagine looked delicious, the business class decor was very impressive, but why oh why would they lock the blinds?

[@PokhrajRoy.]

15:51 It’s a miracle

[@IRLTheGreatZarquon]

For real, I've been through JFK any number of times and have NEVER seen an empty queue like that.

[@patriciafuchs5970]

Your first flight sounds cool. The layover not so much, though the shower suite looked good. The second plane looked cool. It would drive me crazy to not have access to daylight. I think that’s terrible. Too bad your second meal seemed sub par. Cheap flight, cheap experience.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Egypt and Morocco in one day? Such fun!

[@Bqueue2]

Happiness is seeing notification that your favourite KZbin channel, Paul Lucas, has posted a new video. He keeps us waiting but he's always worth the wait. Regarding the blinds, whilst there might be legitimate reasons for darkening the blinds, unless it's mandatory, surely it wouldn't be unreasonable for passengers to have the right to request that their blind be restored to its normal daylight mode.

[@dahorn100011]

I'm also in two minds about the shades. It does however mitigate when most of the cabin are dozing, some person letting in full daylight!

[@BrandanTheBroker]

Looks great Paul, but can we talk about that window in the bathroom? Are we so pre conditioned to privacy that we close the shade even at 30,000 feet? Exactly who's looking?

[@PradeepRaajkumar1981]

Best vlogger always with smile.. the voice has energy.. GOD Save the KING... Wonderful voice.. Matches your voice with David Attenborough

[@ryanfrisby7389]

Excellent trip report Paul!

[@jw451]

Not wrong about that lounge . food looked like prison slop. I do enjoy your vids though. i remember when you were in Oz at round end of lockdown or just before one or the other. Rgds from Syd Oz

[@oliverblake1889]

What are these big blocks of text at random points? It completely interrupts the flow - SANspotter does it much better. Just some feedback

[@davearnold1139]

Good afternoon Paul from the United Kingdom it’s 1255 here when I’m watching this video I don’t understand why have they locked the windows. And I totally disagree with it when I’m flying. I like to see what’s going on outside the food I would give it up 5 out of 10 but great video as usual cannot wait to see your next video.

[@hendrikdevries9725]

Prefer to keep control of the window myself !

[@dospalmascb]

Did you challenge the crew about the windows? It would be extremely frustrating to be in this situation. Great Video Paul

[@mxyzptlyk]

Can't look out of the window, "window seat" is next to the aisle (making it an aisle seat), seat not private - completely open to people walking toward it along the aisle, lamb tagine looks like it had already been eaten once. I think I'll give Royal Air Maroc a miss. In fact, I'll never fly on a Boeing 787 because the risk of suffering blacked-out windows is too great. Oh, just a thought... why was the window in the rest room dark - who were they expecting to be looking in? Another great report Paul.

[@SW-11]

As someone who’s had a migraine induced from one window shade being left up I have no problem with them being centrally controlled shut.

[@gwenmassey7631]

what is the point of having passenger controls on each window if the crew are going to make the choice? 🎉🎉

[@PokhrajRoy.]

12:57 That’s because you have to be quick and strategic. It could be a texture thing

[@tedbernstein3809]

Another excellent blog report... Just subscribed and look forward to enjoying more! Boeing has been very disappointing with quality issues and those auto-window shades... can see why so many global airlines have gone to the Airbus 350.

[@kachikwuomodia8501]

Paul this is a very revealing/adventure filled report. Please do one on Egyptair. I assure you it's going to be interesting 👍🏾.

[@MrGreatplum]

Interesting video, Paul. Always pleased to see lesser known airlines on the channel. Is it common to have a seat belt like a car one in business class like you had on this flight?

[@Paul_Lucas]

It is! Most business class seats now have a shoulder harness for takeoff and landing.

[@friendly_hello]

i just discovered your breeze airways vid now im hooked onto your channel!!! new sub

[@francisflood8921]

WHY does the cabin crew lock out the windows, Paul??

[@obdev9473]

The cabin decoration is more Tamazight (don't say Berber !) than islamic or arabic. The traditional writing system is quite geometric - letters are triangles, circles, etc.

[@BlessingKone-my2hp]

Paul, there’s a reason why they forgotten and let’s keep it that way

[@debramage739]

Thanks Paul, love your sense of humour 😊😊

[@marciaanderton7068]

Personally, I like to look out even if there is nothing to see.

[@TheRareVideosXL]

Great video as always.

[@LotusLady9]

Thank you Paul!

[@mikefish8226]

Isn't the 787-900 1-2-1 but the 787-800 2-2-2? Important difference as they are both Dreamliners.

[@johnclauder615]

I would avoid any flight on 787s for the very reason of compulsory windows being darkened. I want to look out ... that's why I enjoy travels. Despite this comment, I must accept that most people don't seem interested to look out ... sad really ! I think one reason could be that crews don't want to be disturbed ; I would be interested to hear the opinion of a crew member on any airlines on this subject . Why do they do this ?

[@christinehodge3608]

Good video,

[@rossjones6932]

Can individual blinds be unlocked on demand? I’d sooooooo kick off if they locked mine 🤣😬

[@jessicarodger4677]

I wonder if the dreamliner has the option to lock out just the brightest "fully open" option for the windows. Allowing one to look out the window but without the full brightness disrupting those around would be maybe a happy compromise. I'll have to ask a flight attendant next time I'm onboard! Fun video, thanks for sharing!

[@timmarchant-yu2es]

Do you take for footwear for the showers? If so what do you wear?

[@kathygarnett5115]

What was the body of water while taking off?

[@garyashcroft7645]

I love to look out of the windows, I don't like being told that the blinds have to be shut. I pay for the space during the flight, and I want to be able to choose. Gary UK

[@aj4243]

Paul, the status points were for a one way or return itinerary please?

[@Paul_Lucas]

One way, as per the fare 😊

[@IFEELWaysAboutStuff]

No it isn't worth it! Id be furious if I couldn't control my window! Also welcome to NY! I live only a few miles up the road from JFK

[@Jamiefrommelbourne]

Paul aside from doing long ass flights what do u do on your stop overs? is life just one chain flight? :P

[@CJ-xl3dh]

Re the windows;wasn't there a camera viewer at your seat? I like looking out but oddly understand that as some airlines want to condition passengers for their destination. There's nothing worse than some inconsiderate passenger having the bright light coming through the cabin when the body clock thinks it's should be sleeping. Qantas whom I've travelled with did that to;giving the option to briefly and only partly lighting the window before quickly defaulting to the dark setting.

[@grantpatterson2727]

"Profoundly mediocre." As an author and a critic, allow me to announce that I am stealing that line shamelessly.

[@anthonyormerod1635]

You should be in control of dimming where you sit and not cabin crew

[@assafnaor5752]

If I am paying business and a window seat I want the opportunity to look out whether day or night

[@freebeacher]

I enjoyed watching BBC Breakfast 6 AM show but suddenly I could not watch it anymore from the US. If I get Surfshark I will be able to watch it?

[@mgrizz2386]

Why would they lock the windows anyway, what is their reasoning? If they are going to do that, I'd expect a reduced cost for my window seat.

[@arfabarmcake2776]

Wouldn’t travel that airline based on the windows ??

[@TomCro73]

Thanks for another great video, Paul. Curious whether the window blackouts are the norm for RAM, or whether this was a little 'creativity' by the cabin crew. Admittedly, I'm slightly irked by the "always one" pax on a mid-haul who insists on flooding their whole cabin section with daylight, but I'd take this rather than surrendering my freedom to peep out! (If the cabin's dark, I'll crack my blind by an inch or two, just so I can enjoy what's visible outside.) I wonder if any passengers who suffer from severe claustrophobia might start freaking out unless transparency was restored, perchance demanding the aircraft be diverted on medical grounds if the crew refused....... As for face mist, where would we be without it?! Reminds me of the "pillow spray" that Caledonian Sleeper used to provide in their amenity kit... though I still have my unopened little bottle, in case I'm ever feeling wild!

[@kazzicup]

You had to strap your leg 7:44 ? The seatbelt going between your legs? A bit strange.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

As someone who loves a noisy lounge, I thought the lounge was ok

[@PradeepRaajkumar1981]

Please try out some RED wines and SCOTCH whiskies on flight mate...

[@brentbeaver5766]

“Couples that are still talking to each other…” Everything ok, Paul?

[@Feeldartcorp]

for the windows , i mean you are literally above the atlantic ocean there is nothing to see or am i wrong lol