14 year old boy uses bat to commit HORRIBLE crime

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Ali Koca

Ali Koca

2 жыл бұрын

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@aubreyshelton3217
@aubreyshelton3217 2 жыл бұрын
This story is so sad all the way around...it's sad he was THAT AFRAID OF HIS MONSTER DAD
@baadlyrics8705
@baadlyrics8705 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and that made him into a monster himself. Just things in life that are bad and theres no good thing about it. I hope his dad got punished for what he did himself
@Haillordelmo
@Haillordelmo 2 жыл бұрын
He should have told his mom that’s what I’d do
@vall6154
@vall6154 2 жыл бұрын
Messed up family
@demfatgapsin8189
@demfatgapsin8189 Жыл бұрын
I find it weird that everyone on KZbin SHORTS thinks that this bastard did nothing wrong,while everyone on regular KZbin knows that he’s guilty 100%.
@liliththefirehawk796
@liliththefirehawk796 Жыл бұрын
He’s still guilty. Personally, I would’ve gotten Maddie help and then ran away.
@nealp.2841
@nealp.2841 2 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention when he went back to his room and she was moving. He strangled her to be sure she wouldn't make any noise
@cindys6775
@cindys6775 2 жыл бұрын
Also forgot he stabbed her in the chest a few times and cut her throat. Also that he had been looking up violent porn.
@roytheboy3958
@roytheboy3958 Жыл бұрын
How do you know
@donnalawrence8593
@donnalawrence8593 Жыл бұрын
When and where was this
@corlenajames1381
@corlenajames1381 Жыл бұрын
@@roytheboy3958 Most of us know because it happened in FL. A lot of people from North Florida helped search for Maddie & continued to follow the case after her remains were discovered.
@corlenajames1381
@corlenajames1381 Жыл бұрын
@@donnalawrence8593 Jacksonville, FL a little more than 20 years ago.
@yell0wberry
@yell0wberry 5 ай бұрын
A pure example of parents who don’t deserve to raise kids
@MilitaryRelics1944
@MilitaryRelics1944 Ай бұрын
Nope, it’s complete the kids fault, the whole story was fake and it’s what he told the police, in reality he was a monster and ‘touched’ the girls body
@user-ug7ck4nz4h
@user-ug7ck4nz4h Ай бұрын
@@MilitaryRelics1944his father is abuse his son he is scared of his father is not his fault he have no choice
@yell0wberry
@yell0wberry Ай бұрын
@@MilitaryRelics1944 that statement is nearly as dumb as saying if a kid doesn’t graduate from high school, it’s totally the kids fault. Adolescents get their mentality and habits from somewhere.
@Todivine
@Todivine Ай бұрын
@@MilitaryRelics1944buddy is acoustic😭🙏
@MattyIcecubes
@MattyIcecubes Ай бұрын
​@@MilitaryRelics1944You're wrong, upbringing is directly what affects the choices one makes in their life. This guy is probably about ready for a second chance at freedom too. He still has a sliver of youth left and could become something.
@CoollikeJ
@CoollikeJ 2 ай бұрын
Dude would rather commit a murder on an innocent kid than get abused by his dad that’s insane.
@y2k7v
@y2k7v Ай бұрын
what the hell type of comparison is that? Abuse and murder are both not okay. What the hell is ur problem?
@devynhale1623
@devynhale1623 Ай бұрын
It's not insane it just goes to show how abused he was rather kill someone than face the consequences of his abusive father if the father was not abusive that girl would still be alive
@devynhale1623
@devynhale1623 Ай бұрын
The person that made this comment is a troll They do this for the algorithm and you played right into it and so did I they do this so that we comment back boosting the videos ​@@y2k7v
@CoollikeJ
@CoollikeJ Ай бұрын
@@y2k7v what the hell is your problem? it doesn’t matter if you get abused that’s literally no fucking excuse to kill someone
@Bowes_Dragons
@Bowes_Dragons Ай бұрын
Maybe that's how much he was scared of his dad
@kailoomian4203
@kailoomian4203 2 жыл бұрын
Its his dads fault for abusing him so bad he thinks murder is the only way out.
@iAmAllofMii
@iAmAllofMii 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@JD0-0G
@JD0-0G 2 жыл бұрын
Yeap
@PlumberWRX
@PlumberWRX 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah probably still shouldn't be in society 14 is old enough to know not to do this
@SnockLock
@SnockLock 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah chain????
@zombifiied3235
@zombifiied3235 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Lets start the yeah Chian!
@michaelbaker5641
@michaelbaker5641 Жыл бұрын
Just another example of what bad parenting can do to someone.
@alexanderl9721
@alexanderl9721 Жыл бұрын
This guys was messed up no matter the upbringing.
@mrandrossguy9871
@mrandrossguy9871 Жыл бұрын
Or just messed up chromosomes, Wiring in the Brain all messed up
@ursidae97
@ursidae97 Жыл бұрын
​@@alexanderl9721generically predisposed to being terrified of your dad throwing you into a mirror I guess
@cinemaphar
@cinemaphar Жыл бұрын
@@alexanderl9721 he literally said he did it because he was afraid of his dad. If he wasn’t afraid he’d literally have no reason to do this. Are you brain dead?
@humanboywarrior
@humanboywarrior Жыл бұрын
No it's the kids fault
@AliBabaHDE
@AliBabaHDE 5 ай бұрын
Go play with the neighbours kid The neighbours kid:
@BadcatPlaysGacha
@BadcatPlaysGacha 3 ай бұрын
FR...
@MSAanG21282
@MSAanG21282 2 ай бұрын
@@BadcatPlaysGacha like 4 or 3 years ago i went to my neighbors house and we were jumping on the trampling and one of the kids pushed me of and i all most hit a rock face first but i did'ent but there dog came runing at me and started licking me it was super scary and weird
@telaviefilms280
@telaviefilms280 2 ай бұрын
@MSA21282 that’s not weird the dog was a part time doctor
@izzyW_
@izzyW_ Ай бұрын
I can’t believe you’re making a joke about this, what’s wrong with tiu
@zackdriver5191
@zackdriver5191 Ай бұрын
​@@izzyW_ womp womp lil bro keep whining
@cxireen2193
@cxireen2193 11 ай бұрын
Every child deserves a parent, not every parent deserves a child..
@GlaceonFan1997
@GlaceonFan1997 2 ай бұрын
In this case not every child deserves a parent.
@cxireen2193
@cxireen2193 2 ай бұрын
@@GlaceonFan1997 Oh no trust me you DON'T blame a child. The blame goes to people in power and what they COULDN'T do
@mydogghost
@mydogghost Ай бұрын
@@cxireen2193to be fair that story was apparently false I looked it up and from what could fine the abuse dad could easily be false just to get a lighter sentence also the whole potential rape thing.
@vishalahmad-ck6cu
@vishalahmad-ck6cu 16 күн бұрын
​@@GlaceonFan1997I mean........ the parent had no excuse of abusing him and if he had a mental illness I am sure 1 sane person in the family would take him to therapy
@BurntBinangkal
@BurntBinangkal 2 жыл бұрын
How to not make this real: Dont become abusive
@hyberkonawa272
@hyberkonawa272 Жыл бұрын
More like whoop his ass with the belt or la chancla.
@BurntBinangkal
@BurntBinangkal Жыл бұрын
@@hyberkonawa272 that'll make it worse mein freund
@koltennguyen9604
@koltennguyen9604 Жыл бұрын
No crab
@Femboylover33
@Femboylover33 Жыл бұрын
If his dad wasn't abusive he would've had called for help
@Z-40
@Z-40 Жыл бұрын
@@koltennguyen9604 Ok Crab no
@mpicc4808
@mpicc4808 Жыл бұрын
Yes...this happened in Jacksonville FL. He also messed around with her corpse. Panties were removed. He's a sicko.
@Foreverylike
@Foreverylike Жыл бұрын
agreed. he got what he deserved.
@chuuchuuutrain
@chuuchuuutrain Жыл бұрын
How is he a sicko
@xylerlim9589
@xylerlim9589 Жыл бұрын
🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
@bluexdblox7552
@bluexdblox7552 Жыл бұрын
now thats a real crime on that 3rd line
@aparnarai3708
@aparnarai3708 Жыл бұрын
"Nah dude had an abusive father" -random idiot
@shadowofhallows2
@shadowofhallows2 9 ай бұрын
If i were him, i would call ambulance, im not going to stop her crying to hit her with baseball bat
@austinborden5667
@austinborden5667 21 күн бұрын
Hrs a kid who doesn't know better
@vwrgaming
@vwrgaming 20 күн бұрын
@@austinborden5667 he was 14, he sure as hell was old enough to know better
@MPeaches1958
@MPeaches1958 10 ай бұрын
Nobody called his father abusive, until after the kid was arrested. The abusive dad BS was part of the defense's spin to try and get the kid off with a light sentence, due to extenuating circumstances. Lies on men are automatically assumed to be true and there are no consequences for telling them. The father was no more at fault in this case, than the mother was. The kid and his defense team, knew exactly what they were doing. Kudos to the Judge who wasn't distracted by this ploy and applied the proper sentence.
@everybodysfavoritenobody
@everybodysfavoritenobody 8 ай бұрын
Fr!?
@michaelneilson977
@michaelneilson977 7 ай бұрын
Where did you get your info? Asking because I want to know, not confrontational
@Tommy-vo4ts
@Tommy-vo4ts 7 ай бұрын
@@michaelneilson977probably made it up. I see it as a accident although he did still should of gotten the life sentence. Whatever his dad was going to do to him most likely wasn’t worth the life of a small girl.
@freerights6695
@freerights6695 7 ай бұрын
@@Tommy-vo4ts how do you see it as an accident?
@ookami1115
@ookami1115 7 ай бұрын
​@@Tommy-vo4tsyep it's juat an oopsie daisy
@GYA7515_Gal
@GYA7515_Gal Жыл бұрын
It's really the proof that every criminal has a story. He would've never done that if his father wasn't abusive Edit: TY for the likes but you can stop the war! I understood your point!🙃 Edit 2: seriously guys stop, I forgot I even left this comment
@ItzPlazmaaa
@ItzPlazmaaa Жыл бұрын
It is truly sad
@sk1ll454
@sk1ll454 Жыл бұрын
hmm it's not true actually Ali wasn't completely right it is told that the 14 year old boy used to watch adult videos and tried it on the 8 year old Maddie when I first say this video I kinda felt bad for the kid but now I don't think so and about his parents his parents weren't abusive to him him it was just an excuse to blame on his parents were normal and not abusive the thing the 14 year old boy is absolute monstrous
@Hunterbenx
@Hunterbenx Жыл бұрын
Or absent.
@FactsDontChangeMinds
@FactsDontChangeMinds Жыл бұрын
To be fair no one knows that for sure. Not every child in an abusive home will commit such atrocity. This kid was warped
@emilyhemsworth77
@emilyhemsworth77 Жыл бұрын
@@FactsDontChangeMinds yes technically in a terms yes but in other more often realistic way if the boy was abused either his mental health and ill tempered manner is also one of the cause. Hatred for being abusive can lead to certain strike to a person in other ways they would do things that they have been mistreated, its always upto the victim. The point here is always listen to the victim. The victim of abuse is high at risk of being dangerous and part of it was they have rage and anger in their system. They wouldn't do that if they are mad of their parents. Don't judge the book by its cover.
@lilygamingtheories1410
@lilygamingtheories1410 2 жыл бұрын
It was partially his dads fault because he was terrified of him and I hope he got in trouble as well
@kittysoftpaws3677
@kittysoftpaws3677 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it was entirely his dad's fault
@zoom-2410-zoom
@zoom-2410-zoom 2 жыл бұрын
@@kittysoftpaws3677 the actual story is there was no evidence of a hurt eye and also the girls pants were missing so it's thought that he raped her aswell
@destanywilliams774
@destanywilliams774 2 жыл бұрын
No it's not he committed murder don't take up for him
@lilygamingtheories1410
@lilygamingtheories1410 2 жыл бұрын
@@destanywilliams774 if his dad beat him over the smallest thing he probably would have killed him for hurting another kid on accident, you can’t tell me you’ve never done something stupid out of fear
@zoom-2410-zoom
@zoom-2410-zoom 2 жыл бұрын
@@destanywilliams774 ok the real story is that there was no evidence of a brusied eye of here body and also when they found her body she had no clothes covering her lower body so it implies.....
@elisakrivas
@elisakrivas Ай бұрын
Nah, that's not the worst crime I've heard. The worst I've heard is so disturbing, it made me want to vomit.
@audrey_1212
@audrey_1212 24 күн бұрын
What was the worst case you heard?
@elisakrivas
@elisakrivas 24 күн бұрын
@@audrey_1212 Ed Gein. Forever gross to me. Gruesome
@Buffkangaroo122
@Buffkangaroo122 11 ай бұрын
That's why you never play with the neighbours child
@wacirairene7307
@wacirairene7307 Жыл бұрын
His dad made him to be where he is today.... it's really sad
@mahmudii2081
@mahmudii2081 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but that gives little excuse/sympathy for his actions
@thechronicler1453
@thechronicler1453 Жыл бұрын
That doesn’t excuse what he did at all genius, this boy is a maniac
@epicortonotepic8314
@epicortonotepic8314 Жыл бұрын
​@@thechronicler1453 and his father isnt?
@thechronicler1453
@thechronicler1453 Жыл бұрын
@@epicortonotepic8314 no, he isn’t. That’s what you call violent. Also, ever heard of disciplining your child? I don’t see any marks on that boy. Can’t have been that bad. And even if it was, what kind of messed up lunatic kills someone to shut them up?
@epicortonotepic8314
@epicortonotepic8314 Жыл бұрын
@@thechronicler1453 dude just because you dont see any marks doesnt mean anything. The boy was scared of his dad, and thatd awful since if they are scared, thats a awful dad
@0Ghostie0
@0Ghostie0 2 жыл бұрын
“Do do do do. Just doing some humming while changing my son’ bedshee-WHAT THE FUCK?”
@kujojotaro4579
@kujojotaro4579 2 жыл бұрын
Well yes
@metagod
@metagod 2 жыл бұрын
She found it because there was a wet sock on the floor, she thought his waterbed may have leaked so she checked and saw he tried to patch it up with duct tape. She lifted the mattress and out came the stench of the body. It’s actually a very interesting case and I recommend looking into it more if this kind of thing is interesting, it’s hard to cover all the details of a case in a 60-second video so this vid is just the tip of the iceberg
@tavishfinnegandegroot3513
@tavishfinnegandegroot3513 Жыл бұрын
Wth r u saying?
@claymationgloves3662
@claymationgloves3662 Жыл бұрын
​@Jkmlars 💀
@deusmachinima1189
@deusmachinima1189 Жыл бұрын
​@Jkmlars necrophilia time
@ederbigger6397
@ederbigger6397 29 күн бұрын
Our world is so horrible. We need Jesus
@Velvet775
@Velvet775 5 ай бұрын
What a fucking monster.. we need justice for the victims and the families
@conniecornell3255
@conniecornell3255 2 жыл бұрын
BUT WHAT ABOUT HIS DAD?!!???!??
@cbg3433
@cbg3433 2 жыл бұрын
he doesn’t have one 😂
@tootallforyou112
@tootallforyou112 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing
@quintingrant9285
@quintingrant9285 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerkenardk ....
@bradleymetcalf5263
@bradleymetcalf5263 2 жыл бұрын
@@quintingrant9285 do the same thing the 14 year old boy did but put the body in the nearest lake
@forxtyn
@forxtyn 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradleymetcalf5263 bro we have access to 9.1.1 bro😳
@ShannonMcLaughlin_PsyD
@ShannonMcLaughlin_PsyD 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll never forget this. This happened a few streets over from where I grew up in Jacksonville. It was so so sad
@civilwildman
@civilwildman Жыл бұрын
I can relate. A former neighbor of mine, David Messenger, killed his pregnant wife while in a psychotic episode. He claimed he killed her with a fire poker but had actually bludgeoned her to death with a piece of wood. He stayed she was trying to frame him for some serious crime and/or murder him, which obviously wasn’t the case. In the end, everyone else in the neighborhood moved out and turned this area into a ghost town. We weren’t allowed to play outside for a while. It was horrible. =/
@ComicBee-ci6yp
@ComicBee-ci6yp Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah i remember that one
@WhipThenNaeNae
@WhipThenNaeNae Жыл бұрын
this was a backup story for the doofus though, way worse things actually happened
@MASTERLinkYT96
@MASTERLinkYT96 Жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Dahmer did his stuff around where I live too I wasnt alive at the time but he must have been pretty fcked up.
@richardaaron4454
@richardaaron4454 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’m from Jacksonville too. I’ll never forget watching the live news when his mom walked out to talk to the cops and tell them that she found her under his water bed. My neighbor got shot and killed in the crossfire of two gangs a few years ago too. It’s bad here, I would’ve stayed in Brazil but I had to come back to take care of my elder family members.
@TrevorDaniel01
@TrevorDaniel01 9 күн бұрын
A Underage Kid Sentenced To Life That Shown How Insane That Was
@sophianunes-baptista4363
@sophianunes-baptista4363 7 ай бұрын
As a 14 year old girl my advice is to NEVER do something like this, you can always help someone no matter the cost.
@Shadow1Yaz
@Shadow1Yaz Жыл бұрын
According to the autopsy, Maddy had no bruising on her eye, implying she was not hit in the face with the baseball. Her pants and the undies had also been removed before she was stuffed under his bed. Josh lied about the baseball because he didn’t have a valid excuse to drag her into his house. He also slept on his bed for days with her under there, covering the smell of her body with Febreze, incense and perfume.
@wawerington
@wawerington Жыл бұрын
that is even more messed up. his father being abusive had nothing to do with her death then
@cheesetomeetyou
@cheesetomeetyou Жыл бұрын
Wow. 100x worse. The guy was a sick pervert then. Just beat a kid to do sick sht.
@ajamask7140
@ajamask7140 Жыл бұрын
​@@wawerington you can't just say he had no part in it, but I understand that you may think that he just used his dad as a excuse
@VacTheEGuy
@VacTheEGuy Жыл бұрын
​@@ajamask7140 bro shut up dont try to defend the boy
@ajamask7140
@ajamask7140 Жыл бұрын
@@VacTheEGuy I'm not defending the boy what he did was horrible monstrous, but you cannot simply say the people who raised the boy didn't affect what he did.
@ythunter4288
@ythunter4288 Жыл бұрын
Reminder: Don't excuse the crime he committed just because he had an abusive father.
@Bxllerina
@Bxllerina Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I keep seeing comments saying things about it only being the fathers fault. I mean, it's partially his fault, but the kid was also at fault.
@mitchelbont9788
@mitchelbont9788 Жыл бұрын
Know better? His father probably hit him really hard I would be scared to then I don’t thinks it’s 100 his fault the dad needed to be a good dad not a bad one… life in prison is way to long probably didn’t even mean to kill her
@SolidMilkFan
@SolidMilkFan Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY THANK YOU! HES 14 HE SHOULD ALSO KNOW BETTER AND ACTUALLY SANE PERSON HERE!!
@SolidMilkFan
@SolidMilkFan Жыл бұрын
@@mitchelbont9788 Nope, you forgot some details Josh's dad may be intimidating, but you forgot some details if you watch a documentary you’ll hear that Josh’s dad said Children shouldn't have friends in the house when there's no adult (whether parent, guardian or sitter) is around. And he may have a reason why he didn't want Josh to hang out with little girls younger than him. According to Josh, he killed Maddie because he didn't want his father to come home and find out a little girl was in the house. AND when they found her body her pants and her underwear were taken off, they also found violent 🌽 on Josh’s computer, yes some of it could be the fathers fault but there is NO excuse for his actions. (PLEASE WATCH THE DOCUMENTARY BEFORE POINTING FINGERS)
@SolidMilkFan
@SolidMilkFan Жыл бұрын
@@mitchelbont9788 you also don’t know what type of abuse he went through? Physical or verbal it never specified
@Crazyg4chagirly
@Crazyg4chagirly Ай бұрын
The fact she was 8 is horrific I hope he stays in the home he belongs in and never get released…..
@knuxuki1013
@knuxuki1013 2 ай бұрын
People, when your kids are with others. Watch them. Teach them many important things
@Hezoyam10
@Hezoyam10 Жыл бұрын
That's the story that josh told the police and it's completely false. There was no bruise on maddie's eye which was supposedly hit by a baseball. Cops also found photos hidden in Josh's room of maddie and his sister doing gymnastics. The dad is not to blame here. He had good reason to want to keep his son away from girls
@theorigin8537
@theorigin8537 Жыл бұрын
What was the reason?
@TacitusKilgore3000
@TacitusKilgore3000 Жыл бұрын
This needs more likes so People see this
@randychase6095
@randychase6095 Жыл бұрын
What's wrong with doing gymnastics?
@Hezoyam10
@Hezoyam10 Жыл бұрын
@@randychase6095 they found pictures in his room of them doing gymnastics. They weren't doing gymnastics in his room. I realized I could have phrased it better
@MohamedAhmed0912
@MohamedAhmed0912 Жыл бұрын
@@Hezoyam10 what’s wrong with him doing gymnastics with girls I’m serious
@JazzyAquariusqueen
@JazzyAquariusqueen Жыл бұрын
May she rest in peace ♥️🕊️🙏🏾
@The.Drunk-Koala
@The.Drunk-Koala Жыл бұрын
She should be alive doing something not resting in peace
@willowtree-qd2de
@willowtree-qd2de Жыл бұрын
@@The.Drunk-Koala What does this even mean?
@The.Drunk-Koala
@The.Drunk-Koala Жыл бұрын
@@willowtree-qd2de can't teach stupid.
@Jordanlukemarks
@Jordanlukemarks Жыл бұрын
@@willowtree-qd2de she should of not died and she should of lived
@Jordanlukemarks
@Jordanlukemarks Жыл бұрын
@@willowtree-qd2de bro doesn’t know basic English
@Makothehybrid
@Makothehybrid 11 ай бұрын
“Monsters are made, never born”
@Exposingweirdpplwhodeserveit
@Exposingweirdpplwhodeserveit 9 ай бұрын
True
@coolepic626
@coolepic626 9 ай бұрын
Nope he was the monster he lied about the abuse and he wanted to rape maddi
@Bootleg_N
@Bootleg_N 9 ай бұрын
​@@coolepic626why did you bring rape here he's only 14 years old 🤨
@tommarnt
@tommarnt 9 ай бұрын
no 14 year old wants to rape a 8 year old that's weird@@coolepic626
@Blizzardisclose
@Blizzardisclose 7 ай бұрын
Monsters come from a long history of other monsters
@suecowen1972
@suecowen1972 20 күн бұрын
Way before your 14th birthday, you know the difference between right and wrong! Having an abusive parent does not make you a killer either.
@somerandomperson6141
@somerandomperson6141 Жыл бұрын
For those saying that Ali is saying misinformation. No he actually isn’t. Ali here, forgot some details of this case. But everything he said in the video was 100% correct. The thing he was missing was that underneath his bed, where Maddie’s body was. She was actually left in her underwear. That is because Josh, while being on the internet, saw adult videos. And he wanted to copy those things he saw. Realizing that he had Maddie’s body, josh may have done something disgusting with her body.
@kylein9869
@kylein9869 Жыл бұрын
She was actually nude from the waist down, only had on a shirt and socks. Josh watched porn before and after the murder. No evidence of sexual assault on the victim though, but he still may have touched her inappropriately as she was dying or after she was dead.
@FuzionGamr
@FuzionGamr Жыл бұрын
Not true. The whole video is misinformation. It’s been CONFIRMED that there is no evidence of damage in the eye. The parents even confirmed that they wanted Maddie to stay AWAY from the boy
@somerandomperson6141
@somerandomperson6141 Жыл бұрын
@@FuzionGamr yeah, Maddie’s parents did want her and her sister to stay away from the boy.
@kylein9869
@kylein9869 Жыл бұрын
@@somerandomperson6141 well yeah it’s very weird for a teenager to be hanging out with an 8 year old. Do you know how old the sister was?
@Your_Wingman
@Your_Wingman Жыл бұрын
One detail missed is that the boy was actually a main supporter in the search for her saying something along the lines of "I want my friend back" and making him look innocent
@xqza
@xqza Жыл бұрын
This really shows that a person's upbringing can really affect them later in life
@pamparris
@pamparris Жыл бұрын
his father beimg abusive wasn't even 100% true...
@mur8255
@mur8255 Жыл бұрын
his father wasn't abusive,he said that lie along with the "baseball accident" thing,she had no injury.
@iLikeCok
@iLikeCok Жыл бұрын
@@mur8255 I don’t believe that, she definitely was hit lmfao
@gummy5862
@gummy5862 Жыл бұрын
@@iLikeCok According to some comment, no eye injury from the ball were found. He could’ve killed and assaulted her just because.
@gummy5862
@gummy5862 Жыл бұрын
I think both things can be true: he was affected by his upbringing, but he was also born a monster. I don’t truly believe in the nature _or_ nurture debate because both go very hand-in-hand. Many people are abused, but not many sexually violate and brutally murder little children.
@philzztheblader1767
@philzztheblader1767 11 ай бұрын
Parents create lives but abusive parents destroy.
@user-lg9gb7te4l
@user-lg9gb7te4l 11 ай бұрын
I'm glad he gets bullyed for being toxic that man can burn in hell for hurting that girl
@user-sz6wu6rt3r
@user-sz6wu6rt3r 5 ай бұрын
It was an accident and he was a kid Get a life bro
@duebfofn
@duebfofn 5 ай бұрын
​​@@user-sz6wu6rt3r He still killed a girl, what excuse does he have? And how about you get a life.
@user-sz6wu6rt3r
@user-sz6wu6rt3r 5 ай бұрын
@@duebfofn and me saying get a life was a bit excessive tho
@duebfofn
@duebfofn 5 ай бұрын
@@user-sz6wu6rt3r You're right about that though, but he knew well what he did.
@user-sz6wu6rt3r
@user-sz6wu6rt3r 5 ай бұрын
@@duebfofn ??
@ssinssrigg
@ssinssrigg Жыл бұрын
maddie didn’t immediately die. she was still alive hours later so josh stabbed her repeatedly with a knife. a couple days later josh’s mom walked into his room and saw maddies blood seeping out from under his bed, which prompted her to check and she found the body.
@RelatableGamer222
@RelatableGamer222 Жыл бұрын
Yeah he sliced her throat open
@amethystexpress1398
@amethystexpress1398 Жыл бұрын
I just noticed how much weight his lost , keep up the good work bud 😊
@adamdiablo8319
@adamdiablo8319 Жыл бұрын
​@@amethystexpress1398 huh
@winnunition
@winnunition Жыл бұрын
​@@amethystexpress1398 huh
@GODSWORD11
@GODSWORD11 Жыл бұрын
JOSH DIDN’T DO IT SON!!!!!
@Gigan10610
@Gigan10610 Жыл бұрын
Forget the killers... Remember their victims RIP Maddie Clifton
@CharlieDust942
@CharlieDust942 10 ай бұрын
Maddie Kinda looks Half Boy Half Girl
@GD-rw2ht
@GD-rw2ht 9 ай бұрын
Never forget the killers he has to deal with it till he dies
@Lois_Griffin.
@Lois_Griffin. 8 ай бұрын
​@@CharlieDust942ok and???
@flyingdawsonyoutube
@flyingdawsonyoutube 8 ай бұрын
He didn’t want his abusive father to find out
@Masterb8n
@Masterb8n 8 ай бұрын
​@@flyingdawsonyoutubeso that makes it right? F that guy
@optimusstorm2364
@optimusstorm2364 Жыл бұрын
Perfect, My friend accidentially threw a baseball in my eye when him, me, my other friend and my dad played baseball. TODAY
@PJRNWY
@PJRNWY Жыл бұрын
As a 14 year old please don’t let this make you think 14 years old are all bad
@robertkarp2070
@robertkarp2070 3 ай бұрын
All adults on here were 14 years old once, so you have nothing to worry about in that department.
@Beautiful_Mess
@Beautiful_Mess Жыл бұрын
Happened in my city, on my wedding day (11/3/1998). I remember seeing the missing fliers all the way down to the Keys as we drove south for the honeymoon. She was found the day we returned. The bat wasn’t what killed her. Josh stabbed her multiple times, causing her death. The bat rendered her unconscious. Maddie’s parents never recovered, and divorced not long after.
@legnxtxd4101
@legnxtxd4101 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he also cut her throat
@j.isaacrosales5243
@j.isaacrosales5243 Жыл бұрын
Dang I was like 6 months old when you got married 😮
@Bekrox65
@Bekrox65 Жыл бұрын
On your wedding day? Damn
@Sir_Frenzy
@Sir_Frenzy Жыл бұрын
That must have been a good wedding
@Cece_zpt
@Cece_zpt Жыл бұрын
I wasn't even born yet 💀
@SuicideboysGrey59
@SuicideboysGrey59 2 жыл бұрын
She was so pretty and I’m sure so full of life and had a bright future… ugh. I hope she’s resting in peace
@jbluyt8890
@jbluyt8890 Жыл бұрын
O how old are you
@jbluyt8890
@jbluyt8890 Жыл бұрын
This sounds weird man.. uhhh 😬
@brrrh105
@brrrh105 Жыл бұрын
@@jbluyt8890 ??
@turtley4444
@turtley4444 Жыл бұрын
The boy was also terrified of his abusive dad so it's not all his fault.
@yoursleepparalysisdemon8752
@yoursleepparalysisdemon8752 Жыл бұрын
​@@turtley4444 He means that OP calling her pretty would be rather suspicious taken out of context. He was asking how old OP was to check if they actually understood the possible implications of what they said
@Butt0nsTh3Bl4ckC4t
@Butt0nsTh3Bl4ckC4t 2 ай бұрын
Don't blame the kid. Blame the dad.
@kasiasinior8332
@kasiasinior8332 Ай бұрын
How old do you have to be to know not to kill someone?!
@Thatkoolgamer1
@Thatkoolgamer1 11 ай бұрын
In the words of that one sherif threatening Darren Carter “most of those men in there are good men, who found themselves crossed with the law”
@SlimyReiko
@SlimyReiko 11 ай бұрын
That isn't a good reference there is some proof he made the story up. he made that story up. When they found the body not only did her clothes nor her body have dirt on it but half her clothes were missing, and there wasn't an eye wound on her nor was the baseball or the bat was bloody. He did make sexual jokes around her and was hiding pictures of his sister and her doing gymnastics. Also joked about raping people to her
@Thatkoolgamer1
@Thatkoolgamer1 11 ай бұрын
@@SlimyReiko sorry I didn’t do research, I don’t really care either, my word describe HIS story, not the truth.
@jankemjunkie6564
@jankemjunkie6564 Жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Maddie, condolences to the Clifton family.
@tyronosourus
@tyronosourus Жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: Don't play with the neighbor's kid.
@SFVnative
@SFVnative Жыл бұрын
You can't stop your children from having friends and there's no reason to. Just don't let the friends be older boys.
@RandomAviator
@RandomAviator 11 ай бұрын
What if im neighbor with my parents
@mw6ngi0
@mw6ngi0 11 ай бұрын
​@@SFVnative he's joking... it's a joke.
@1A_B_C1
@1A_B_C1 10 ай бұрын
No
@michamicha7011
@michamicha7011 9 ай бұрын
mom: go play with the neighbors kid the neighbors kid:
@nicolejones3686
@nicolejones3686 11 ай бұрын
That's crazy! 😟 May Maddie R.I.P 😔🕊️
@htfs493
@htfs493 3 ай бұрын
How abusive does someone have to be to make your child think that THIS was better than just owning up to their mistake?
@Huh._.-_-
@Huh._.-_- Жыл бұрын
What's crazy is that the victim's family and the whole neighborhood started searching for her and this guy also joined them knowing that she was already dead
@collinthegamer510
@collinthegamer510 Жыл бұрын
That’s fuckin crazy
@Casid2
@Casid2 Жыл бұрын
This case isn't as simple , the story after he hid her body below his bed is ; Maddie was reported missing by her parents and everyone in the neighbourhood came to together to try and find her. The kid , Josh pretended like he didn't know anything and joined the search party, the sad part is , Maddie was still alive when the search party was trying to find her. If Josh had confessed and taken her parents to her , she could've been saved. After a few days the search party and the police were starting to give up hope when they started to question Josh and asked him where he last saw her , he fumbled with this words and said that they were playing ball , the police got suspicious and checked his house , Josh was using a house freshner to keep the smell in , the police at first didn't find anything but then they found long strands of hair and blood on the floor , they looked under the bed and found her lifeless body. She likely died of excessive blood loss and infection in her injured eye, not to mention lack of air to breathe and water.
@bigaraga
@bigaraga Жыл бұрын
That is so messed up. Straight from a horror movie honestly. I'm not completely blaming the kid because he's a kid and had an abusive father, but he was 14 so he was old enough to make more rational decisions. I can't imagine how crooked their lives must be, the blood of other people is on their hands. One of the worst crimes you can commit. The guilt will also lay on him for the rest of his life. I wonder how much he thinks about Maddie's blood stained lifeless body, the fact he also hid that body under the bed knowing she was still alive before she passed away and could possibly be saved but still fearing the consequences from his dad. He'll also feel bad that that decision ruined the rest of his life. Or at least I hope he'll feel some remorse for it, especially when he grows older and matures and gets a better idea of the bigger picture, not being in a narrow, limited, fearful mindset from the oppression of his father. I feel bad for him in a way. I hope that if his heart truly changes he can be released one day when he realizes he made a really bad decision, but I'd feel bad if he spent the rest of his life rotting in prison for something he did at 14 with other factors influencing it.
@Casid2
@Casid2 Жыл бұрын
@@bigaraga Josh apprently wasn't aware if Maddie was still alive when he hit her with the baseball bat, he just put her under his bed while she was unconscious. The police visited Josh's house a few times prior to make sure she wasn't there but always got thrown off by the home freshner scent , Josh was planning to move her body but removing her from under the bed let out a lot of bad smell which is why his mom called the police and that's also how they found her body. Moreover , Life sentences only last for 25 yrs until there can be another court session. Josh was 14 then , the next court session would be when he's 39 , he will most likely be set free since he's spent more than half of his life behind bars. He'll be turning 39 this year , let's see what the court hearing shall be.
@FluffScripts
@FluffScripts Жыл бұрын
​@@Casid2 Accordidng to many articles, the baseball part was just a lie as he had no excuses to bring her in the house. He watched adult things before and did some disgusting things to her. There were no visible damage to her eyes as exaggerated.
@wawerington
@wawerington Жыл бұрын
it says josh cut her throat on his wikipedia page
@MScienceCat2851
@MScienceCat2851 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, It was totally kid's fault. He was 14, and he was old enough and aware of his decision. No matter how abusive your father is, doing something liek this shows how youre going to kill someone rather to take a slap on the face. That was very horrorfying to read, and made me sick. He already had his choice, and put her under the bed and used air refreshner. Its clear and obvious that he was aware of what he was doing.
@ocelotsantinkehewin1553
@ocelotsantinkehewin1553 6 ай бұрын
I just heard of a story of a mother killing her children and got 57 years in prison. Why is she not life in prison.
@stvrribera
@stvrribera 17 күн бұрын
the parent that raised him like that i honestly feel bad for him his dad was a monster
@cygnusereve4779
@cygnusereve4779 Жыл бұрын
Some other notes about the case. - after hitting Clifton with the baseball bat, he would later stab her 7 times with a knife after hearing her moaning in pain. - clothes were missing on Clifton's body. Phillips claim the clothes had slipped off when he dragged her body. The clothes were later found but there wasn't dirt on the clothes. - Phillips had talked about sexual intercourse with Maddie Clifton and Maddie's older sister. But not enough evidence was found to prove rape (or necrophilia). - there was no blood found on baseball bat nor the baseball. There was no blood found in the backyard as well. (Blood can be washed off but it could be determined that blood may have been on the item)
@DoggerV8
@DoggerV8 Жыл бұрын
@thisapplejudges6553 we will never know
@user-nu3sd7zb2j
@user-nu3sd7zb2j Жыл бұрын
​@@DoggerV8we do know. He wasn't abusive
@brunitoknolastname69420
@brunitoknolastname69420 Жыл бұрын
Yeah no that life sentence is well deserved
@Loudfox101
@Loudfox101 Жыл бұрын
​@@DoggerV8hello... Hank
@tailis8489
@tailis8489 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get this extra information?
@Luluxbracelets
@Luluxbracelets Жыл бұрын
Yes, but don't forget, this was from his perspective. There was no evidence that part of it was true. All we know is that he was the culprit. What he said may not be true because no blood was found on ghe baseball bat. You also missed the part where he claimed "her trousers fell down" but we don't think it was an accident. By the way, I found this information on another video, so please do not hate if it isn't true. Edit: Full story Josh and Maddie were friends but were not allowed to play with eachother as he had told Maddie an innapropriate joke and also fancied her sister. One day, Middle asked to play baseball together as their parents weren't home. They went to his front garden and played baseball together. Josh though was older than Maddie, and so his hits were harder. One time, he accidentally hit her in the eye while trying to pass the baseball to Maddie. Josh got scared because his father was very abusive and so he was scared his father would see what he had done and abuse him. Maddie was screaming and crying as her eyes was bleeding, so he brought her into his house and to stop the crying and screaming, he hit her hard with tge baseball bat, hoping to silence her. He dragged her inside his bedroom where he claims her trousers fell down as he was bringing her in. However, people's clothes don't just fall like that. It it probably happened that he was attracted fo her, and became innapropriate, because he began to sleep under the bed on top of her while her trousers were down. The search for Maddie began and he pretended to be scared and worried, even joining in with the search for her eith a look of worry on his face. No one was suspicious of him as he was only 14. Not even when the police came into his room and smelled a disgusting smell from the body of Maddie. Seeing as there were birds in the boys house, they thought it was just the foul smell of them. A week into the search, Joshs mother came into the room to see Maddies foot sticking out of the bed. She was terrified and directed the police in Joshs bedroom, too scared to go back herself. The police found Maddie, who wore nothing on the lower half of her body. Josh denied it at first, but then told the story heard in this passage. However, there were no marks from a baseball bat on her, and there was no blood on the ball or the baseball bat. Josh was sentenced to prison for life and I do not know what happened to his abusive father. What he supposedly did was very upsetting and what we think he may have done as there js no evidence of his story was very inappropriate. God bless the poor girl. She did not deserve to die as she was only being friendly playing with Josh, not knowing he would kill her. Her family were devastated, wishing her heart wasn't so big so that she could have lived. Rest in peace, Maddie.
@calanon534
@calanon534 Жыл бұрын
So, this sick little monkey raped her before and after he killed her. Gross. I can understand why this didn't come out - it's just too horrific.
@_Costed_
@_Costed_ Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@pebbles_of_fruit
@pebbles_of_fruit Жыл бұрын
this is so sad! (on a lighter note, 69th like)
@DToTheB
@DToTheB Жыл бұрын
ok this explains the life sentence
@Luluxbracelets
@Luluxbracelets Жыл бұрын
​@@pebbles_of_fruitwow 💀
@kraftwerklover69
@kraftwerklover69 Ай бұрын
Life in prison? That’s overkill. Especially for sentencing a 14 year old who isn’t yet mature.
@user-ro8dc6ny1t
@user-ro8dc6ny1t 6 ай бұрын
“Those who are near monsters only end up becoming monsters themselves”
@kylebradley3
@kylebradley3 Жыл бұрын
Dude is a straight up sociopath, forgive me if I'm not going to just take it at face value when he says his dad was abusive.
@ademeda
@ademeda Жыл бұрын
Ye, I mean it's 20% his father's fault, but ffs he's old enough to think about not killing someone because of that especially his sister.
@keithfields1756
@keithfields1756 Жыл бұрын
​@@ademeda no it's just the kids fault
@ademeda
@ademeda Жыл бұрын
@@keithfields1756 but what caused him to be like that?
@keithfields1756
@keithfields1756 Жыл бұрын
@@ademeda caused him to be like what? A murderer who killed a little girl? That's all on him. I had an abusive alcoholic for a father who used to severely beat me throughout my childhood and my sister who he favored used to get me in trouble which would induce a beating yet I never attempted to kill her. You along with everyone else making excuses for why a 14 year old highschool student murdered someone are fucking idiots
@iammar1159
@iammar1159 Жыл бұрын
What’s crazy is that there are people making excuses for him and lowkey defending this sicko 🤦🏾‍♀️ I’ve been a victim of âbüšę too and so have other people and they didn’t turn into kïłłérš.
@shamaiwanyashrahla4725
@shamaiwanyashrahla4725 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t want to hear anything about “he was young” or “it’s his dads fault” the only mistake was hitting her with the ball but at the age of 14 you are very competent and completely understand consequences, so you don’t drag someone in your house and torture them until they die to make them stop crying you just don’t. I completely understood what I was doing at the age of 6 and was a man at 14 so no excuses. If he knows how it feels to get abused he did the exact thing to that girl, he’s no better than his dad and arguably worse because he killed her, to kill somebody with a bat you actually have to try, it’s not like little tap would do the job nooo, he was swinging with all his strength not to simply convince her to stop crying but it was his full intention to homerun her head into oblivion to make her stop and he is a murderer. That isn’t a mistake it’s 1st degree murder. Don’t @ me I live in reality and know many who truly had it bad as a kid and they aren’t murderers. I hope he got what he deserves
@Zentrix588
@Zentrix588 Жыл бұрын
Finally, A person who has a brain. You are completely true, I'm 14 and I would've called the kid's parent and my parent right away. That 14 year old is a sociopath.
@titanictyranitar9571
@titanictyranitar9571 Жыл бұрын
I agree that it was mostly his fault. But there is no way that you can't see that his abusive father didn't pressure him. No matter the age, if a child is threatened or abused by parents it has bad side affects and emotional damage. And though the decision was tragic and horrible. I still also feel really bad that the dad partially ruined his son's life
@akhandtripathipyz9888
@akhandtripathipyz9888 Жыл бұрын
@@titanictyranitar9571 what Ali told is actually not the true story You just heard what murderer himself told to the court In reality when Maddie's body was found there was no eye damage and her skirt and panties were not on He also watched violent porn before the murder took place He also showed no remorse in court This story is made up so that he could get a lower sentence but he got the full sentence he deserves
@MidKnight08
@MidKnight08 Жыл бұрын
Yah and why would you throw a baseball at an 8 year old, GIRL!!!!
@capncookie1110
@capncookie1110 Жыл бұрын
@@akhandtripathipyz9888 I guess he saw a false article about it and thought it was the real deal
@lord.d1_
@lord.d1_ 4 ай бұрын
"Why did you beat your sister with a baseball bat?" "I just had Inglorious Basterds flashbacks."
@notbadsanta
@notbadsanta 5 ай бұрын
Such a tragedy, I can't even imagine how terrified that little girl was.
@rochellygreen1494
@rochellygreen1494 Жыл бұрын
This is the perfect example of abusive parenting. Josh should have known better at 14,but the fear of his father was strong enough to cover up his crimes. RIP ❤️🌹🙏😪
@weirdghost3064
@weirdghost3064 Жыл бұрын
Are you not going to feel bad for the girl that got killed?!
@rochellygreen1494
@rochellygreen1494 Жыл бұрын
@@weirdghost3064 What do you think RIP means????
@weirdghost3064
@weirdghost3064 Жыл бұрын
@@rochellygreen1494 Your comment makes it seem like you are just excusing the 14 year old and not worrying about the little girl that got murdered. If I'm wrong, that's on me
@rochellygreen1494
@rochellygreen1494 Жыл бұрын
@@weirdghost3064 It seems like,but no my heart goes out to her. She was a victim of a monster(Josh) and he was the victim of his father. I raised 3 children and never abused them mentally or physically. I hate when parents abuse children,I really do.
@Appollo45667
@Appollo45667 Жыл бұрын
@JALAL 7 i don't know what you are talking about, it doesn't matter if god forgive him or not but he definitely deserved the punishment he is getting.
@BoosterSLC
@BoosterSLC Жыл бұрын
Josh is the kind of kid to cover up carpet stains with more stains
@zjthelion4829
@zjthelion4829 Жыл бұрын
Fr
@molester628
@molester628 Жыл бұрын
and also the kind of kid to commit a crime at the age of 14
@ShotMorphIRL
@ShotMorphIRL Жыл бұрын
Like fr I can see that in him-
@KyryloMudrokha
@KyryloMudrokha Жыл бұрын
From the very year he is accountable for crime, he will spend the rest of his days in hell, while his alcoholic father that is the reason in the first place is still free.
@arndguy2550
@arndguy2550 Ай бұрын
He's not only a murderer But also a broken child
@teresayates8274
@teresayates8274 Жыл бұрын
Anyone capable of committing murder at that age should NEVER leave prison. It wasn't mentioned that he also did disgusting things with her body.
@mary-ks4pz
@mary-ks4pz Жыл бұрын
الدماغ ليس مكتمل في هذا العمر ربما خوفه الكبير من والده المعنف وبيئته السبب في جريمته هذه لكن لا يمكن الحكم على شخص مدا الحياة لجريمة ارتكبها في طفولته . الذي يستحق السجن هنا هو الوالد
@lilprinter613
@lilprinter613 Жыл бұрын
Cap
@Artyfier
@Artyfier Жыл бұрын
@@lilprinter613 Nope, her pants and underwear weren't found or were found but she wasn't wearing them, he claimed they just kinda, y'know, slid off, but nobody's clothes just come off like that so you can guess what he had done.
@AnarchyAgenda
@AnarchyAgenda Жыл бұрын
​@@Artyfier But the crazy part is there's no evidence that he R worded her AND no evidence that her clothes just slid off so that makes it even more confusing
@therain17495
@therain17495 Жыл бұрын
​@@mary-ks4pz Você definitivamente não sabe de nada. Ele cometeu o crime uma vez e pode voltar a comete-lo. É claramente um perigo para a sociedade e nunca mais deve abandonar a prisão
@DBDG0499
@DBDG0499 Жыл бұрын
Good on that Mom, she didn't see her son as an Innocent, she saw him for what he truly is and Got Justice for that girl and her family!!!
@Foreverylike
@Foreverylike Жыл бұрын
agreed. i wouldn’t hesitate and i would show no mercy to the kid in court
@keith_fGf
@keith_fGf Жыл бұрын
@@Foreverylike bro, I think it’s the fathers fault for being abusive
@davemathew5236
@davemathew5236 Жыл бұрын
But still remained married to his abusive dad and didnt give a fck.
@lucifero9077
@lucifero9077 Жыл бұрын
Got justice 🤣
@jakedoesyoutube
@jakedoesyoutube Жыл бұрын
​@@keith_fGf the boy also did... things... to the girl... yeah the boy was equally monstrous.
@nicholasreyna2164
@nicholasreyna2164 11 ай бұрын
Sad story, making an awful mistake so early can destroy your whole life
@soratenshi2847
@soratenshi2847 11 ай бұрын
its stupid that he gets a life in prison for a mistake at the age of 14 while also being paranoid about his dad
@DookiePoopButtDeuceDropper
@DookiePoopButtDeuceDropper Жыл бұрын
There are actually many things in his story that don’t add up with the evidence they found. If you want to hear more about this case, Bailey Sarian covered this case in one of her videos, which I recommend.
@qc_gaming538
@qc_gaming538 11 ай бұрын
I will definitely take advice from someone with a username like that
@Ijhgvbbnjjhbnj
@Ijhgvbbnjjhbnj 10 ай бұрын
@@qc_gaming538😂
@satrah101
@satrah101 8 ай бұрын
​@@Ijhgvbbnjjhbnj 😂
@sethl2800
@sethl2800 6 ай бұрын
@@satrah101😂
@p_stains
@p_stains 5 ай бұрын
@@sethl2800😂
@KaijuKing1945
@KaijuKing1945 Жыл бұрын
She found him bc she thought it would be nice of her to clean his room for him and when she lifted up the bed to clean under it she discovered the body, investigator’s say that the water bed probably prevented the dead body smell from escaping and the dog smelling it. The mom was hesitant to either call police or tell the father but she knew if she told the father he would be mad so she called police and it was a very difficult task for her to do even though her son was a murderer
@mask938
@mask938 Ай бұрын
He was raised by a monster and instead of trying to be better, he chose to become a monster himself.
@averykyliegrambs3814
@averykyliegrambs3814 2 жыл бұрын
Bro there's OTHER methods to get a child to calm down then SMACKING them in the head with a BASEBALL BAT secondly he would've been in a lot less trouble if he had just owned up to his mistake
@JustSomeGuywithEpicGrasses
@JustSomeGuywithEpicGrasses Жыл бұрын
I see you clearly didn't grow up with an abusive father.
@emptyhand777
@emptyhand777 Жыл бұрын
Ah shit, now you tell us. Too bad you weren't there to handle the situation.
@runeistaken
@runeistaken Жыл бұрын
​@The Quiet Kid what does that have to do with the original comment
@JustSomeGuywithEpicGrasses
@JustSomeGuywithEpicGrasses Жыл бұрын
@@runeistaken What would a father who beats you without reason do when he has a reason? The best answer to this question is that he would commit filicide .
@Wanderer5260
@Wanderer5260 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god is this fairy tail avery Kylie gonna time travel to save the child?!1!1!1!1!
@CreeperG0d
@CreeperG0d Жыл бұрын
If I had been him, I would have called her mom and my mom to help and explain it was an accident. He made it into a bigger problem than an eye bleeding.
@akhandtripathipyz9888
@akhandtripathipyz9888 Жыл бұрын
After researching This is actually not the true story This is what Josh himself told to the court The real story is far more disturbing When her body was found there wes no damage in her eyes and her skirt and panties were down You know what happened now Josh also didn't show any remorse for his actions This story was made just to have his sentence lower I hope the boy rots in prison
@LiebeLeuchten
@LiebeLeuchten Жыл бұрын
well thats you, he had an abuse father so abusive to the point where in this situation the first thing he thought of was murder, he is just a result of his abusive fathers unbringing. I feel bad for the victim and the boy.
@Jitju
@Jitju Жыл бұрын
Not everyone is in the same parental situation as you
@BarocaS2
@BarocaS2 Жыл бұрын
​@@LiebeLeuchten yeh it's clearly quite a complex situation. People just don't understand and they forget how vulnerable people are at 14. Right and wrong didn't even cross his mind in that situation, it was pure survival instinct due to fear and desperation. Obviously it doesn't justify his actions and I'm sure I wouldn't feel this way if it was my child that was killed but from the outside, a life sentence was not justified. Years of therapy and obviously punishment could have saved the boy. But, it's probably way too late for that now. The prison system often does more damage than help which is why so many reoffend. Such a sad case. I hope the dad received his own punishment for his crime of child abuse.
@maxzmoose7459
@maxzmoose7459 Жыл бұрын
@@LiebeLeuchtenif you have heard the real story you would not feel bad for the boy at all
@jaudyparcon8591
@jaudyparcon8591 10 ай бұрын
This is why you shouldn't become a parent if you don't know how to
@steveardila7651
@steveardila7651 Ай бұрын
This is one of those cases where you feel bad for both the convict and the victim.
@tayman1404
@tayman1404 2 жыл бұрын
It was the dads fault because he was so scared of his abusive dad the dad should also be in prison
@akhandtripathipyz9888
@akhandtripathipyz9888 Жыл бұрын
The dad is innocent Anyone would have scolded or beaten their child for such a thing The boy was scared of that so he murdered her This is the boys fault no one else's
@akhandtripathipyz9888
@akhandtripathipyz9888 Жыл бұрын
I have researched about this case for a few hours and the story you heard here is made up by Josh and i hope this story was true In reality there was no damage on the eye of the girl and her skirt and panties were not on her when she was found you are smart enough to understand the case now Josh also showed no remorse
@yoursleepparalysisdemon8752
@yoursleepparalysisdemon8752 Жыл бұрын
​@@akhandtripathipyz9888 Oh Jesus, and here I was thinking that the kid was just acting out of fear. That's so fucked up
@SixtyFourJr
@SixtyFourJr Жыл бұрын
​@@akhandtripathipyz9888 please don't tell me that sick son of a bitch did something with her..
@akhandtripathipyz9888
@akhandtripathipyz9888 Жыл бұрын
@@SixtyFourJr there is no evidence that he raped her but her skirt and panties were not on when she was found The court was convinced that he committed murder for sexual pleasure
@danielobrian5675
@danielobrian5675 Жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion but I believe the dad should share his sentence. Monsters are not born, they're created.
@bakashiro
@bakashiro Жыл бұрын
delusional
@danielobrian5675
@danielobrian5675 Жыл бұрын
@@bakashiro no need to describe yourself, mate.
@bakashiro
@bakashiro Жыл бұрын
@@danielobrian5675 yup, thats why i, in fact, did not describe myself
@danielobrian5675
@danielobrian5675 Жыл бұрын
@@bakashiro don't forget to breathe.
@bakashiro
@bakashiro Жыл бұрын
@@danielobrian5675 what does that mean? would be fun tho
@NoName-00010
@NoName-00010 Жыл бұрын
I'm telling you,he would survive in a zombie apocalypse
@SunnyRaindew
@SunnyRaindew Жыл бұрын
Often people forget the things fear does to you, or rather, the things it makes you do.
@Fishy_17
@Fishy_17 10 ай бұрын
He lad falsified his motives. He did not do it out of fear of his father. This is because if he did, then a lot of evidence wouldn’t make sense.
@kingladekahn
@kingladekahn Жыл бұрын
So basically, there's a lot of speculation about what happened: According to Phillips, on November 3, 1998, he was home alone when Maddie Clifton, who lived across the road from the Phillips, came to his house asking him to come outside and play baseball. Phillips agreed, even though he was not allowed to have friends over while his parents were not home. As the two were playing baseball, Phillips accidentally hit the ball into Clifton's eye, causing her to bleed, cry, and scream. Phillips panicked, knowing his father Steve would be home soon and fearing his reaction. Phillips dragged Clifton into his house, saying that the clothing came off Clifton's lower body as he did so. He hit her with the baseball bat to stop her from screaming before putting her under the base of his bed. When Steve returned home, Phillips interacted with him for a period of time before returning to his room. When Phillips discovered that Clifton was still alive and moaning under his bed, he removed the mattress, cut her throat, and stabbed her in the chest seven times with the knife from a Leatherman tool, killing her. Clifton's disappearance was reported around 5:00 pm that day. Police and volunteers searched for Clifton for six days; Phillips participated in the search. He later stated he spent the following week living in denial, saying, "I was putting myself in a fantasy world that nothing had happened. That was my defense mechanism for everything when I was a kid. I never made the decision ... to ignore it. I just did."it
@GODSWORD11
@GODSWORD11 Жыл бұрын
FALSE INFORMATION SON!!!
@krahser6914
@krahser6914 Жыл бұрын
@@GODSWORD11it’s not false. Look it up
@GODSWORD11
@GODSWORD11 Жыл бұрын
@@krahser6914 look up deez 🥜
@crowspoons
@crowspoons Жыл бұрын
​@@GODSWORD11 bruh you dumb or smth?? this is literally his side of the story, go and read the actual report.
@baldaizamusic
@baldaizamusic Жыл бұрын
It's Ironic that half if not most of the people that claim "iT wAs thE DaD'S fAulT" don't even know the true story and probably also have pretty decent parents irl and have no idea of what an abusive relationship is, they just want to vent over their parents not giving absolutely everything to their already spoiled asses
@aaronsmith5947
@aaronsmith5947 Жыл бұрын
I do concur with this statement
@ShotMorphIRL
@ShotMorphIRL Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if you’d like to count it but I’m emotionally abused and I hate it no need to track me like u weren’t gonna do but like- he’s still “nice” on some days so y’all enjoy ur nights with a great parenttt
@Windermed
@Windermed Жыл бұрын
I dont think saying everyone had “decent” parents is good to say imo My dad was a narcissist who would often hit my mom and both of my parents would inflict physical pain as “punishment” growing up (wether it was through a belt or with their fists) and even i think that IF the baseball story was true, then i’d say this kid would definitely deserve rehabilitation rather than prison time entirely. of course tho.. if he truly did do disgusting things to that girl then that can’t be linked to him doing it out of “fear of his father” and that can’t be excused and i hope he does rot in prison if that’s the truth
@36-Idk
@36-Idk Жыл бұрын
People say it's my fault when I hurt someone because they were irritating even when the anger and short temperament came from my dad kinda simular to the kid in the story. I'm glad to find people saying it's the kid's fault usually.
@andremaster1752
@andremaster1752 Жыл бұрын
I've seen many kids be juvenile and do terrible stuff with amazing parents who spoil them with love.
@EviMlcak
@EviMlcak 11 ай бұрын
He was more afraid of his father than he was of prison.
@robertsimon2885
@robertsimon2885 7 ай бұрын
This is a reason why abusers must stay away from society.
@itzamia
@itzamia Жыл бұрын
I remember all the flyers in Jacksonville back in 98 when I was a kid. Everyone was looking for her. In class a breaking news report that afternoon came on with the Sherriff letting us all know they found her. Not only did he hit her over the head to stop her from crying, but he grabbed his pocket knife and sawed her throat to get her to stop making noise, which ultimately killed her. The smell from her body day's later being under his bed is how his mother thought to look under the waterbed after thinking a rat had died in the house somewhere.
@Memer_child
@Memer_child 5 ай бұрын
Dam dude. That’s tough. Did you know her?
@itzamia
@itzamia 5 ай бұрын
@natedurso8986 I didn't know her, but a kid that used to visit his dad in our same apartment complex lived next door to her and regularly saw Maddie Clifton and was friends with Joshua Philips. He took the news a lot worse than the rest of us given how close he was to the ones involved.
@Stevo-klo45453
@Stevo-klo45453 4 ай бұрын
What a joke. Sorry for your friend. That’s f…d up. Condolences
@michaelcorrigan6577
@michaelcorrigan6577 4 ай бұрын
Damnit Jacksonville why!
@charliesalazar8010
@charliesalazar8010 Жыл бұрын
Another reason of why you shouldnt let your kids play with anyone unless you know them well and even then stay cautious
@theredhood2796
@theredhood2796 Жыл бұрын
Maddie wasn’t supposed to be playing with him both her parents and Josh’s parents agreed on that after he had made sexual comments towards Maddie and her sister.
@Council_Member
@Council_Member 7 ай бұрын
@@theredhood2796sources?
@FNAFpanda
@FNAFpanda 5 ай бұрын
This is genuinely sad. Not only was someone killed, but they were then dragged away to be hidden because the killer was afraid of their own DAD
@Urmomsahoeee
@Urmomsahoeee 2 жыл бұрын
I almost cried when I saw the first picture of the little girl, I already knew what happened to her...
@duckingtonedits2369
@duckingtonedits2369 Жыл бұрын
You left out the part where the abusive father saw that he was a monster and forbid him from ever being alone with a little girl
@BirdzBTD
@BirdzBTD 11 ай бұрын
Bad parenting grows bad people
@melis9029
@melis9029 Жыл бұрын
That’s the most 30 looking 14 year old I’ve ever seen
@hossainayon9588
@hossainayon9588 11 ай бұрын
That's 30 looking? Plz check ur eyes 😂
@melis9029
@melis9029 11 ай бұрын
@@hossainayon9588 😂😂
@lilygamingtheories1410
@lilygamingtheories1410 2 жыл бұрын
I hope his father at least got arrested too
@coolkidrblx
@coolkidrblx Жыл бұрын
It's the kids fault so stfu
@coolkidrblx
@coolkidrblx Жыл бұрын
The kid got so scared that he murdered the her
@coolkidrblx
@coolkidrblx Жыл бұрын
But it's "the dads fault"
@JustSomeGuywithEpicGrasses
@JustSomeGuywithEpicGrasses Жыл бұрын
@@coolkidrblx the dad's dead.
@kylein9869
@kylein9869 Жыл бұрын
Dad died in drunk driving accident in 2000
@NPRYRS
@NPRYRS 2 жыл бұрын
LORD HAVE MERCY 🙏🏾🙏🏽🙏🏿
@E.T.whisperer
@E.T.whisperer Жыл бұрын
This is why abusive parents should be kicked in the face.
@DalmatianGeo
@DalmatianGeo 9 ай бұрын
Whats worse is that he probably would have never done something of such manner if he had grown up in a stable home.
@supersmiley5587
@supersmiley5587 Жыл бұрын
Bro, CALL A GOD DAMN AMBULANCE
@Crazycreeper349
@Crazycreeper349 11 ай бұрын
Yeah the kid was pretty stupid, I guess he didn’t call them because I feel the dad would’ve beaten him up anyway
@Anonymous7070
@Anonymous7070 10 ай бұрын
@@Crazycreeper349this happened in the 80s
@Anonymous7070
@Anonymous7070 7 ай бұрын
They did not have cell phones back then
@supersmiley5587
@supersmiley5587 7 ай бұрын
@@Anonymous7070 🤓
@Anonymous7070
@Anonymous7070 7 ай бұрын
@@supersmiley5587 what do you mean
@RockstarGacha69
@RockstarGacha69 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has been mentally abused and gone through many terrible things myself, I would've never dreamed of doing that to someone even at 14 I wouldn't have. Even if "people react/handle things differently than me." There's honestly no excuse for what he did even if his father did abuse him.
@biswasronit
@biswasronit Жыл бұрын
This is a lie.
@Ehreniscool
@Ehreniscool Жыл бұрын
That's you everyone is different on how they respond to abuse
@theredhood2796
@theredhood2796 Жыл бұрын
He wasn’t even abused though it’s a lie he told the cops and told while on trial in order to make himself look more sympathetic.
@theredhood2796
@theredhood2796 Жыл бұрын
@@Ehreniscool except if you research the case you’ll find out that the story told in the video isn’t what happened.
@inbeing3464
@inbeing3464 Жыл бұрын
The original video creator missed something, there was a lot of sources claiming that his father wasnt actually abusive and that there wasnt any injuries on the victim's body that could have come from a bat or from the ball that the kid apparently throew at the girl's eye. So yeah it was basically the kid being really fucked u0
@amygee9420
@amygee9420 6 ай бұрын
It seems like all murderers had a bad childhood/childhood trauma
@ecks_l
@ecks_l 7 ай бұрын
imagine how different this could have been if that dad treated his kids with kindness... R.I.P
@hollyardis4524
@hollyardis4524 Жыл бұрын
I saw this whole story. I an pretty sure he also was questioned as one of her friends. He helped in the search for her. I didn't hear that much about fear of an abusive father. His mother did discover it by walking into his room, days later.
@auzy2u845
@auzy2u845 Жыл бұрын
His 👨 was an abusive alcoholic.
@ily_h96
@ily_h96 Жыл бұрын
whatever the true story is, i can’t imagine going to sleep at night knowing someone’s body is just always below you. freaking haunting to think about.
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