14 Year Old Build a Voron - Sort of. Wizard3D W1 Review!

FINALLY - My first look at the Wizard3D W1 3D Printer. Wizard3D is run by 14-year-old Max Leabman in California. He built and sent this 3d printer to me to have a look at. I'm VERY thankful Max reached out! It runs Klipper, Mainsail + Moonraker, Rpi3+, TMC2209. Has a build volume of 310 x 310 x 390!
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[@wizard3d687]

Website's back up - there was an issue with enabling the payment system. Sorry for the delays

[@Da-Real-Gigachad]

Nice!

[@alockworkorange7296]

Good luck man it looks awesome

[@alockworkorange7296]

@@BigfootPrinting i agree ppl dont ford cobras A.C. even tho its their body same with Hennessey venom ppl dont say its just a lotus exige

[@Noah-Davis]

You should create a google business profile to reach more customers.

[@anomicxtreme]

Great job, you've definitely got a bright future. With some stronger material and maybe heat sunk screw mounts this build will be solid as a tank and be able to handle high speed as well as high res. Good luck on your venture, I'm poor lol but if I can ever afford one I'll be getting one of yours. I really like and appreciate not only the effort and hard work but the personal aspect too. Nothing makes any product better than when someone's heart and soul and passion are behind the whole thing. Keep up the awesome work!

[@FilamentFriday]

Well done Max. Great summary Joel.

[@3dprintingtoday]

Sup chep

[@wizard3d687]

I want to give a big thank you to Joel and the 3DPN team for making all of this possible and for all of the great feedback!

[@timlong7289]

Well done Max, we will be watching out for you in the future to see what your company builds.

[@PS-nf3xw]

"We Will Watch Your Career With Great Interest"

[@richardmatthews7275]

Well done max. that looks awesome and can't wait to see what you're capable of in a few years if youre only 14 now

[@toyotaboyhatman]

Joel, you did a very good job of giving constructive feedback without it sounding mean. Max: I'm 47 and an engineer, and I don't think I would even take on designing a 3d printer from scratch so good on you for taking on such an uphill project. When I was 14 I was playing super nintendo.

[@olafb.2929]

I thought the same 😀

[@Akegata42]

Maybe you would build a Voron using the readily available manual and BOM? Because this isn't a 3d printer build from scratch. This is a Voron.

[@4thfrom7]

@@Akegata42 If you know of someone who has built an entire 3D printer from scratch without sourcing any existing documentation, please send them help, because that's straight up insane. 😆

[@agepbiz]

Great job Max! Thank you for printing my cube Joel, now you need to print the teeth as well! Lol. Also, you pronounced my name almost correctly, I approve! 😄

[@Dexipixle]

It's possible print qaulity was fine but you have to be careful with spray paints carrier liquid or component. It's possible it softened his ABS parts.

[@cheetahkid]

I could say the same thing, is like painting your helmet, it will becomes brittle.

[@UncleRons_3D_Pub]

I was wondering the same thing, I know plastics can react 'oddly' to carious sprays and coatings

[@vhoward1122]

I know Krylon makes a paint specifically for plastic that won't degrade the plastic. It is not that popular because it take a lot longer to dry/cure. That's because they removed the solvents that flash off quickly and the solvents are what weakens the plastic.

[@S_Roach]

I had the same thought. The plastic shouldn't have been crumbly.

[@vanceblosser2155]

I agree with this. I have also had issues with painted PLA - some solvents do affect it, and although they don't dissolve it they make it weaken and get soft and crumbly. Similar to acetone - it will dissolve ABS but makes PLA get kind of chalky and weakens it.

[@Martin42944]

I'm glad you treated this like a normal review. When I was younger one of the best things my mentor did was treat me like an adult. He wasn't rude or mean, but he didn't sugar coat things either. It helped me to grow quicker than I would have otherwise.

[@kovifranck8015]

me to but im still 14 i do all sorts of building and 3d printing as im autistic and adhd i have been cast away my whole life but now things are looking better

[@jackdolezal9742]

I’m 14 too and just got my ender 3 and its way more fun that I thought. First print was a calibration cube and it turned out nearly perfect. I’ve only had one failed print so far and it was my fault, but it was within the first 10 min of the print so not much waste. Eventually I’ll do the noise mods and maybe even extend the build volume. Ive built a computer and a assembled 3d printer no problem so I think i could build a 3d printer once i learn more about them. Max is one of a kind and we need more people like him. Age does not matter

[@kovifranck8015]

hi i am also 14 and yes age does not matter i have done so much im even going to tafe i build furniture and 3d print btw you should chck out a printer called the ecubmaker 4 in 1

[@formysindesigns]

Fantastic. Thanks Joel for supporting such a great young mind! Well done Max for having the confidence to push yourself with something you love. Hope to see more of wizard3d in the future

[@outofdarts]

Awesome to see the next generation of designers in the 3D-printed space. Keep up the great work Max!

[@It-b-Blair]

Can you print more darts?

[@olafb.2929]

Great work Max, and hope your business idea goes well. This is an awesome piece of work, just go your way and follow your ideas. And thanks to Joel for sharing this and giving some advice.

[@super_slo]

Awesome kid, neat printer concept. There's a definite market for a Voron inspired PRODUCT, as all of the chat flavors are full of "where can I buy one? I don't want to self source and I don't want a kit". Good luck with this dude

[@rivera82falcon]

It's stuff like this that deserves to be recognized and praised instead of big companies using kickstarter. Great work Max!!! I'm definitely interested in this project.

[@edwinirizarry9277]

I think was an amazing episode , this is what makes mr. 3D printing nerd so great and you have put a lot out there for the wonderful Max to chew on . I hope he def takes it all in and doesn’t stop! Way to go Max!

[@francistaylor1822]

I don't want to rain on the parade, and call me overly cynical but this printer is a Voron with some parts that dont improve the design - and possibly degrade it. The builder is undoubtedly bright but this isnt ready for commercial sale - basic things like wire management, packing without damage to name a few should be addressed before he starts selling them. I personally think Joel should have given the feedback in private sent the printer back (its almost $1000 in parts and thats a lot of money for most 14 year olds) and Wizard3d could spend a few more months ironing things out before sale - there is certainly a market for voron-esque printers that are fully (or largely) assembeled. If he starts selling printers as is, it will cause him no end of pain with complaints and returns and possibly ruin the business before it has had an oppurtunity to start.

[@3DPrintingNerd]

This machine is going back to Max, just trying to figure out the best way to ship it back.

[@francistaylor1822]

@@3DPrintingNerd oh cool, thanks for clarifing.!

[@underourrock]

@@3DPrintingNerd great to hear that it is going back. My suggestion: Take it back to him. Collab on some of his design / work for a week. Film it. Your niche (to me) appears to be being able to highlight all kinds of awesome things in 3d printing. Your interviewing and personal skills working with people are sharp. Maybe the Collab video you guys do could pay for most or part of the trip. (Tons of assumptions in there that might make this untenable, so no worries if you can't. Just an idea for a creative approach.)

[@corewarrior]

Nice job Max! Thanks for the fair review and encouragement Joel!

[@tmtjg3]

Max, this is a great start for your business and 3D printer. The thought that your 14 and doing things like this makes me super excited to see what the future holds for the 3Dcommunity. I can't wait to see the minor bugs worked out cuz I think you have a really good thing here. I would like to see how things are progressing for you from time to time and I think when the printers are ready for market you are going to present concern for the "big boys... i.e. creality, Prusa, etc". Now it's just a matter of time until you see clones of your designs and printer come out. Bottom line Max, keep up the phenomenal work! Lots of people are rooting for you and want to see you succeed. Best of luck!!!

[@RobertRiggin]

Excellent feedback and encouragement provided Joel. This has inspired me to get back to work on my printers and finally decide on whether to convert my already heavily modified x5s to a vzbot or voron 2.4. One thing I know for sure is whatever it is I will do a kinematic bed.

[@jimstamper7062]

amazing balance between being supportive and honest. GL Max!. you are doing great!

[@rcmaniac25]

I expect we'll be hearing more from Max and Wizard over the coming years. Awesome to see what someone can do when they put their mind to it.

[@merwynmathew]

Mindblown with such kids. They have such a long and bright life ahead... Gosh So excited for Max.

[@varmint243davev7]

This is awesome and it is awesome that you put in the effort to give and honest evaluation in support of Max. I could easily see Max becoming an ME, EE, or Business Entrepreneur.

[@roguewolf0148]

Good luck max!!!!!! Wish you the best, looking forward to seeing what the future holds. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@plebefpv]

Good luck Max, keep working on your goals

[@hczylos2432]

Sick, i have so much respect for all you’ve done for this kid, he’ll cherish this for life. All love. ❤️

[@Davideturner]

Love this! Great job Max!

[@justsomeguy5186]

This kid has a bright future ahead of him.

[@The-Weekend-Warrior]

Keep on making Max! And my upmost respect to you Joel for supporting him! You're awesome!

[@DanielCooper1]

Go Max! Good luck, buddy. Get your stuff going, and reach for it!

[@timlong7289]

Nice to see you guys mentoring the next generation of 3D printing innovators. And all out of the open source philosophy, too.

[@riceball4u172]

Good job Max, the feedbacks are good to listen to

[@tylermckeon7965]

Great job, Max! Everyone has to start somewhere! Also, Joel, excellent video! Excellent delivery of your review and constructive feedback. Hi Five!

[@wes3dprints770]

That's an awesome achievement for a 14 year old. If he's done this now. What the future holds will be great. Great video, and honest feedback that will help him learn, and grow.

[@B1GJano]

The future is bright for you Max! Excellent feedback Joel!

[@DWIT3D]

That is awesome. Definitely someone to watch out for... he has a bright future! Great video Joel.

[@Erik-pr2rf]

Well done Max. keep moving forward progressing in ideas and quality etc.... never give up

[@75echo]

Nice effort, especially considering his young age. However my advice to the young man would be to establish direct contact with parts suppliers to make his own Wizard1 brand parts that assemble together still keeping the Voron inspired coreXY design. As he has it now, people will always consider it as still a Voron just with upgraded PSU and display.

[@ntwananohaward4504]

Thank you for the dedicated video, as always you're doing a great job in spiking kids interest to join the 3D printing community.

[@ZedkeiaFreimann]

The things you can do with 3d printers is amazing

[@anthonyrich1592]

The crunchy parts sound like what happens to my parts when I print in PET-G and forget to bump up the temperature from the previous PLA settings. I'm really impressed that a 14 year-old kid has come up with this printer and a business strategy to go with it. I hope he accepts that your criticisms are constructive and takes them on board to deliver a reliable, quality printer to market. Best of luck to him!

[@ygiagam]

Awesome job, Max. Keep up the good work and you will be successful.

[@lowelljeff]

Joel you are a good Person.......It makes me feel good you did such a good job on the Printer from Max.

[@peterwalker5413]

At 14yrs old and making a CoreXY… this young man has got some skills! Keep up the good work.

[@user-eu2pb9rr4l]

Joel is really empowering kids to learn STEM. You are an amazing person, never get old.

[@jlg23us]

Well done Max, great job Joel helping the young man out.

[@kylejmxb]

Great job Max, this is super awesome.

[@quantummandavid]

Bless you and your family Joel.

[@SengirIndustries]

Been waiting for this one!

[@KarrMcDebt]

Great Job Max!!! Keep it up!

[@Neptune730]

Good job Max. Not bad for the first attempt. Don't feel discouraged. Take the constructive criticism as a learning tool to refine and improve the machine. Don't give up. I think you are going to go far. Don't be in a hurry. Good luck. I'm looking forward to seeing your improvements.

[@Luptonium]

Awesome job Max!

[@bwselectronic]

He's got a great future ahead of him. You gave him a good critique without being hyper critical. I'm sure he will learn a lot from this experience and you may be helping the next tech billionaire to start his career.

[@evel-knievel]

Sweeet, love to see young kids going at it!!! Cheers Evel

[@buildersmark]

CANDY CORN FTW! Poor mini Joel. All prints look great. Max keep going man. We want to see you succeed. Definitely a good first round.

[@oscaranderson1822]

Thanks for bringing that to us Jewel you're the greatest

[@jamesolson4610]

I like what Max is doing.

[@sanjeewaalahakone4324]

Max, wishing you all the success and hope you will be the next Xerox

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

Tapping the extrusions is also resistant to sliding out of position during shipping. If they get loose, they're not going to move out of position. Pooch is awesome.

[@crussty3d]

Very inspiring! Max has a bright future head!

[@jesusc.trevino4359]

Voron community and voron creators should be more than ok; but should be proud that they inspire teenagers to create unique corona 3d printers. Future engineers. Thanks to all Voron and 3d printing community.

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Agreed!

[@aminlhih6507]

Good luck max, you're on the right track bro

[@thirtythreeeyes8624]

I respect the hustle

[@PanacheConnection]

Well done Max, I think the quality control issued faced all come down to the rather meagre budget an average 14 year old has. One thing I would suggest would be to try to think outside the box. One thing you have that us old timers have lost over the years is an active imagination. Just put your feet up and think of the stuff that you really wish your 3d printer had but is currently not available on any 3d printer in the market. Take your time. Hopefully in the next few years I will have and Wizard3d printer in my basement with certain capabilities only available with the Wizard3d brand.

[@bratwizard]

FABULOUS JOB, MAX. You Rock !!!!

[@kevinj9059]

Hey Joel! Instead of using long screws to secure the frame (which is totally fine) you can use 5mm pan-heads which fit nicely into the T-slots. You then drill a small hole through the extrusion that's just big enough to fit the "allen" wrench. Assembly is fairly easy because you can have all of your bolts screwed into the ends of the extrusions before you even start the assembly: simply slide the parts together and tighten. It makes a really clean look (can't see the screws at all) and gives you full access to all the T-slots. It's best to make a hole drilling jig that clamps into the T-slot for accuracy/repeatability. A 3d printed one would work for a while (there are plenty on Thiniverse "2040 drill guide") but I made mine out of steel. One thing to mention is that when using this method, or the method you mentioned is to make sure your extrusions are cut VERY squarely. I recently got some 2040 from China and the cut on the end was off by more than a millimeter over 40mm which is almost 1.5 degrees off.

[@KevinGroninga3D]

Wow! Max has a bright future! If he’s at this point at 14 just imagine where he’ll be and what he’ll be doing at 19 or 20! Nicely done!

[@dtaggartofRTD]

Definite potential and an ambitious machine.

[@Kosh42EFG]

Excellent for a go at 14! I was too busy playing computer games. Perhaps at this point you could offer a Voron build service? You can get to build (which is fun) while learning and tweaking your designs. People are more likely to spend money on a well tested and know entity than a "gamble" on an unknown design. Maybe offer it alongside the W1?

[@jamescullins2709]

Max, you are awesome and I am sure you will be successful with the Wisard3d.

[@CornishCarper]

Go on kid, be the next Prusa! Anything is possible!

[@protious]

I can't wait to get a Wizard 3d W1!

[@tobins6800]

This sounds like a good start. Let us know when they are able to start shipping and more importantly updates on his side of the business. Him being in California, that might limit the types of foam he is able to procure as a startup. Cardboard is much easier to get in bulk. Do some tetris engineering and make the printer in kit form, flatter pack. Take that package design to a local cardboard/corrugate factory or processor, get quotes for quantity and lead times.

[@AndrewGillard]

A lot of people prefer recyclable packaging (e.g. cardboard) over even more single-use plastic as well. In Vector 3D's recent printer unboxing & build livestreams, he's criticised any printers being shipped in blocks of foam. Yes, it's good protection during shipping, but then it probably just goes to landfill. Prusa's got cardboard packaging working well, I believe (from watching other livestreams), so it can be done 👍

[@blakelong6149]

Good on this kid. I wish I knew half as much as this kid at that age.

[@boazjoe1]

Joel, your kindness is showing.

[@chicoriver8606]

Max. Good luck 😃

[@yogician]

This is so cool.

[@grey1185]

Woah that is amazing

[@NautilusTSG]

This boy should just use the whole voron design. I love my voron.

[@98nchen]

This is basically a voron trident with extra steps

[@stldenise]

Max is one gutsy kid.

[@KeeDel]

I wish I had this kind of support when I was 14 every idea I had I was told it was bad and it would fail by family Friends and teachers but kid it looks like you have a great future ahead of you

[@trevormallow2788]

That ringing could be because the drivers are switching between spreadcycle and stealthchop which negates input shaper. The stealthchop threshold in the printercfg should be 999999 to keep it in stealthchop mode and then retune input shaper. I had the same issue and that solved it for me.

[@TwistedRealityDesigns]

I'm super interested in wizard 3d.. I hope I get to see more of this

[@GarthVader68]

Joel, a great review and advice. Max. One option that was not suggested was selling the printer in a parts kit. Focus on the parts, STL's, and software. Shipping will be easier. Cust down on cost. As I see this being a printer for more advanced users. Putting the kit together will be what I would prefer to order.

[@zzace00]

This is awesome to see. Something I think I might see is if the 3d printing club at UW can do is go around to local high schools and show them what 3d printing is and the amazing things you can do with it to hopefully get people interested in 3d printing at a younger age

[@bravofighter]

Way to go, Max!!!!!

[@Johan-ul9jb]

Love the ambition of this young guy. But also let's be realistic. He is basically selling a design from someone else (except from some parts), but with a lot of issues. Also when selling it as a complete printer there are compliance rules to consider. There are a lot of things that come with selling a printer officially instead of diy at home. He should really get some mentoring in that area at least. When people starting to pay for it they might be less forgiving as Joel.

[@nine0ten771]

Great constructive review.

[@AN_Design_3d]

Well done! Nice Quadrent, it looks like a modified Voron

[@RealGardenMechanics]

I’m very impressed, and this is before I find out it’s made by a 14 year old, this young man has skills mast people don’t normally acquire till their late 20s+ he’s obviously made his own parts using CAD software such as Shapr3D or Solidworks, worked out the wiring for the harness and the output voltage……when I recall he’s 14 🤯🤯🤯 I’m blown away.

[@electronicpresentationEP3D]

As a 14 year old that builds 3-d printers Too I think this is cool!!

[@TripleJAu]

The Sky is the limit for Wizard 3d

[@theegg6852]

I used to be Max’s neighbor and play with his brother that’s cool he has a whole business kinda thing happening now!

[@matbroomfield]

Max is a very smart young man.

[@silentpaw]

Hey Joel, I think I may know what happened to those parts that crumbled. Since I am a model builder and painter, I learned the hard way that some filaments don't play well with some paints. So that may be what has happened here. Maybe Max should get a custom color of filament made to print his parts so these kind of problems do not arise in the future.

[@hanslain9729]

* high fives Joel * Way to use your platform to enable Max! Supporting the future.

[@TheSonofruss]

As a complete novice to 3D printing increase your wall thickness and fill on your production parts especially the stepper brackets putting metal anti crush sleeves in structural connections is an idea you might want to look into. I wish you well in your endeavors.

[@cheetahkid]

Looking nice, not bad for a 14 years old. I have to say about cables tidy need conduct cable tidy. Keep up a good work boy and you get a beautiful units..

[@MO-ProMaxDesign]

Looks good. Love to try it out. I also can help with the stronger parts, i do cnc metal or aluminium cuttings

[@saus7026]

Yess! Finally get to hear all the details on this, exciting! Edit: Unfortunately, it looks like Wizard3D is currently down, getting a 404 error when trying to access the website.

[@SengirIndustries]

Probably too much traffic because of this video

[@saus7026]

Likely yes, mentioned it to make people aware