141 Dupe Challenge 10 : Voles, Regolith, C Miners, Chimney clearing : Oxygen not included

[@TheZestologist]

The anthem of Oxygen not Included: "I'll worry about that in a minute"

[@ariedge2435]

the anthem of symhony

[@Quirkyhndl]

Followed by "oh crap..." 10 minutes later.

[@shneegle69]

You should get a mod called "popup control" by Stephen, it just removes all the useless little popups when a dupe eats or gets a new friend, ect... it should help with performance so maybe... just maybe, you won't blow up your PC, Love your oni videos keep up the amazing work ❤️

[@quinnwisnovsky8495]

I made it! Stinky wouldn't have been my first choice but can't complain about the Diver's Lungs. Great series, keep it up!

[@Blar408]

At about 5:45, that little happening reminded me of a screenshot someone else took of their game where a dupe didn't animate right when making a sculpture, and just stood there scowling at the unfinished art piece. So it looked like the dupe was sculpting with the power of their scowl.

[@ChristianAkacro]

Undug fossils under the rocket chimney? For shame Francis, for shame!

[@kurgisempyrion6125]

Haha was just thinking the same thing when I watched that part :D

[@fada1922421]

Smh

[@remon201]

I've been wachting this series for a while now and is there a way to sub twice. I really love it. You really deserve more subs man!

[@lyssalud6781]

additional youtube accounts

[@truezulu]

Best ONI streamer on youtube. Hands down.

[@Truemmerphantom]

I'm honestly amazed how well you are doing. 287 Cycles in, 97 (!) Dupes, The map is almost entirely mined out, Space had been claimed and a Shove Vole Farm was constructed in less than 20 cycles... and you are prepping a Rocket Chimney. I would have despaired way, way before you. It's a shame that off-gassing PWater Bottles and PDirt is, on this scale, not sustainable. Otherwise you could have lived off of shrooms and pufts. ^_^ Keep up your good work! :D

[@JaRyCu]

around 33:40 "I give up. Everyone, you just got a new friend!" OMG I love FJ videos.

[@duplicantlivesmatter9083]

26:20 Francis why is there a blob of magma sitting next to the door of your petrol boiler? Next to the heat transfer system, not at the bottom of the heat spike. Did you get an insulated tile to melt into magma?

[@jasong1872]

I think you are right. Looking back at when he built this, it does seem to be an igneous rock insulated tile. With that thermal shift plate on its corner it would definitely have heated up. There was also a block of igneous rock and a piece of iron in that tile when he was building it, which I'm going to guess got trapped inside the block. That could explain where all that magma and molten iron came from at the bottom, it liquified inside the tile and oozed out onto the ground, before the whole tile itself melted.

[@duplicantlivesmatter9083]

Jason G glad I’m not going crazy. Excellent observation my man. 😎

[@ariedge2435]

yeah... it is melting.... how.....

[@ariedge2435]

26:04

[@duplicantlivesmatter9083]

Ari Edge I do believe it is as Jason says. The temperature shift plates just on that one tile. I don’t think it’s going to matter much. He can just replace that one block with an obsidian one and then he’s good to go. He can even keep the shift plate in.

[@dsutc3]

Thanks for another great episode, hopefully the patrons continue to survive, just something to note i loaded up the save to have a closer look at some things, and noticed the automatic dispensers on the top row (where all of the regolith is) are not set up so the dupes are running up and down constantly to move all of it when you already have the dropper on the level right their and could simply use it to drop everything faster, as as always thanks for that video.

[@JerekDain]

Behold my ability to construct through wormholes! :D

[@pistachioicecream8800]

Reminds me of a comment a few episodes ago: "Imagine Francis desperately launching a steam rocket for water"

[@MaddestBob88]

I'm crook at the moment, bundled up in front of the computer, vixed up, and that ''annnnd we're back'' is soothing to the soul.

[@tobycat5799]

I'd be on the "pat myself on the back and call it quits" stage of the game by now. Good job! Amazing vids, always excited for the next one

[@AnthonyBecker9]

What the heck.... I can't even imagine getting to this deep in the game. Glad I got this game and thanks for the video!

[@mosterdpottv]

Absolutely loving this series. Thank you

[@learningpianomusic]

37:36 is that dupe head banging?

[@mirjanbouma]

Oh yeah! Another attempt at melting FJ's pc.

[@soniak13]

I think he will manage to melt his brain first.. calculating the calculations his pc would make XD

[@Zaughon]

Well, he did say he managed to melt the Gravitas facilities, so now he's using a mod for that. Now it's time to melt his computer instead. I wonder if he'll use a mod for it when he's done it the first time.. /thinking

[@duplicantlivesmatter9083]

31:26. Is it worth it to waste all that time to melt such a small ice biome? By now the rate at which you run through water, it kind of seems to me that it would make better sense to just core out the ice and get a head start on the rocket chimney so that you start producing more water more quickly. In other words: aren’t you actually wasting water by taking the time to melt that all down?

[@kevingriffith6011]

I was just thinking the same thing. That and maybe setting the non-atmo suit dupes to sort of "pre build" the rocket chimney, get a head start on the parts you *can* build with those biomes in the way.

[@Vogelgangg]

He needs all the water

[@kevingriffith6011]

@@Vogelgangg That may be, but every cycle he spends *not* building his rocket chimney is nearly a ton of oxygen lost. Digging it out may *save* him water.

[@xPanda25]

I think it's a double edged sword where he loses out either way. He needs as much water as possible and manually demolishing it removes half of the available stockpile of water he is able to run on until he runs out before he gets the chimney in place, yet the time spent melting the ice biome delays that rocket chimney which will solve the water problem. HOWEVER, in melting it, this allowed him to tackle some of the other necessities like the power spine and the start of the shove vole farm while the ice biome is simultaneously melting. So I think it kind of evens out in the end

[@duplicantlivesmatter9083]

Chandler Hupp yeah. Either way I think he has enough water in reserve that it’s not going to matter anyway. He should have plenty of time to get it all done, and if he fails I can just unsubscribe. 😃😝

[@greggbennett1750]

Why am I excited by watching someone else play but don't enjoy playing myself anymore (until the DLC anyway). Gotta wait 4 days till the next one 😭

[@duplicantlivesmatter9083]

I’m the same way. I don’t play any games whatsoever anymore. I only watch Francis John, brothgar, and the Minecraft hermits

[@G.r.e.g.g.l.e.s]

What a lovely joy to come back to after a day's work

[@ravingodd]

When figuring out the name for xmtb, you suggested "mean time between". and the only time I've EVER heard that was in a systems engineering environment. Makes me wonder if that's your profession 🤔

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Network engineer, but studied programming back in the day.

[@dsutc3]

Ran a "small" stability test on the save up until cycle 400, and two biggest issues i noticed was toilets and their constant use leading to small pool of water everywhere lack of and the issues of the Shove Vole ranches, appears iron ore air flow tile they can dig though thus escape the ranch, an annoyance but easy to solve, the Larger issue is the lack of a robo-miner in the Shove Vole breeder they can rapidly fill the room with regolith. i wish you luck keeping your patrons alive, ps i also had escaping voles from the breeder but for the life of me i couldn't find how again good luck.

[@S_Black]

Steel, diamond or obsidian keeps them in. If you don't have those more advanced materials, just regular doors work for some reason, no matter the material

[@chaowang9312]

35:55 Call me too picky about it, but one conductive wire can support more bunker doors, because bunker doors and miners are never operating at the same time.

[@MaskedCritic1932]

Three things: 1. It's harder to melt POI structures without mods, now. Recent patch made ice makers able to overheat, so no more melting steel that way. I actually don't know if it's even possible, now. 2. What about polluted water off gassing? How does that compare to electrolyzers for O2 production? 3. I've always found the massive nerf diseases got before 1.0 disappointing. Doctors are basically useless! To counteract that, I came up with a challenge: Sporechids for decorations. Think it's possible to survive with that?

[@thade7062]

you can still easily melt steel in a vacuum over mesh tiles with an aquatuner it will melt before it breaks down set it to not be repaired obviously.

[@curtissyoung2698]

Not sure if you knew: you can run desalinators underwater, helps keep them from overheating, but then you need atmo-dupes to clear the salt. I really enjoy what you're doing, keep it up!

[@xPanda25]

You can?? Sheesh gonna test and hopefully implement that myself because I kept having to put the desalinator in weird places to make it fit, but if i can just stick it underwater next to the pumps that would be extremely helpful

[@Vogelgangg]

Oh my never knew that

[@Jules_Diplopia]

It never ceases to amaze.

[@SeriousBurnsUnit]

With 170 tons of algae, you might want to consider the economics of Algae Terrariums. It's only a stopgap solution without a constant source of algae but it's considerably more effective for turning water into oxygen the Electrolyzers. They do require maintenance but it's not like you're short on staff. In addition to oxygen they also produce polluted water which will off-gas more oxygen. They apparently can absorb water from the floor so they can be drip fed water without duplicate intervention till the polluted water needs emptying.

[@Idontknowwhattocallmyself]

Been waiting for this!

[@TheAnigai]

I pose a challenge to you fellow Irishman. 32 dupes, liquid based rockets and most importantly; you manage to get rid of the long commutes message. Dublin in case you're wondering ;)

[@commonsense-og1gz]

francis, don't forget to save as much slime as possible. 4 algae distillers will provide enough water for one electrolyzer, and enough algae for one oxygen diffuser.

[@Tamizushi]

I'd like to add that if someone wanted to use slicksters to provide oil for a sourgas boiler, actually they'd be better of ranching glossy Dreckos. A glossy drecko produces up to 50kg of plastic per cycle which can be turned into 22.2 kg of oxygen through (plastic->naphta->sourgas->methane->pwater->water->oxygen). In this scenario, you'd need about 2.7 dreckos per dupe, most of which can be sheared without being fed. Doing the same with slicksters would require 13.5 slicksters per dupe. They main advantage of slicksters is really the food they provide. But yeah, I agree that a chimney is ultimately the simplest solution.

[@YellowGoddess]

I'm looking forward to your suprise when the printing pod stops giving you duplicants once you reach 100 ;) At least that's what my printing pod does...

[@vulkandrache1928]

Melting an icebiom with a tepidizer works better by backfilling the bottom with blocks so the water rises and using a few thermal plates against the ice.

[@matthewhaas8758]

He's got a thing for mechatronic engineers ;)

[@arturmonteirodacosta170]

Francis, I had some problems with a design like that for ranching shoves, it seems the pneumatic doors wouldn't keep steam from going to space, and my steam chamber eventually dried out, it might have been a bug or something like that, but you might want to keep an eye on it.

[@PyrokineticFire1]

he built it over the gravitas drywall tiles, so i don't THINK that'll be an issue, but i may be wrong.

[@arturmonteirodacosta170]

@@PyrokineticFire1 you can't build anything on top of the drywalls, and if you mouse over the pneumatic doors it says "space exposure", but in one of the patch notes the devs said doors wouldn't let anything leak out through them, so I'm not sure what to trust.

[@NoMusiciansInMusicAnymore]

Down the left hand side.... Do you mean stage left or the other left?

[@efethecaptain6]

I was looking forward to Rocket chimney explanation a bit more than the Rime one, this is gonna be more convenient hopefully

[@ajaleman646]

Not sure about your computer set up, but if not suggested, try a two computer set up. The more powerful one running the game and a lesser/cheaper computer with video capture. That should free up cpu power so your game is not so slow. Video capturing take a good chunk of your cpu.

[@audrianmarak1574]

Same thing happened with my petroleum boiler heat spike, but in my case I left the obsidian untouched in the bottom instead of a steel door, no debris was there with low enough melting point and still magma managed to get in

[@cceres]

I did not know the map wrapped round like that!

[@michaelsotomayor5001]

When we reach a point where Francis comments and "oh new printable are available.. aaaand over here" lol Leave it to Francis to do the things we will n e v e r do in this game xd

[@DrRetardo8600]

Hey Francis, I've got a question about your self cooling steam turbines. At 30:30 you show one for a brief moment. I've tried to build one of them recently, but it never seemed to work. I've started one with a liquid layer at the bottom - overheated. I've filled one with hydrogen (20kg per tile) and even temp shift plates - overheated. So what am I missing?

[@shotmeonsightplease]

If the input steam is above a certain point, the excess heat from the steam is turned into heat from the steam turbine. So if you feed it 500*C steam, the steam turbine will generate a LOT of heat, way more then it can self cool. Self cooling really only works if the steam is below 200*C.

[@DrRetardo8600]

@@shotmeonsightplease That can't be it, my steam is always between 170 and 180°C

[@shotmeonsightplease]

@@DrRetardo8600 I suggest that you post on the Reddit then, and attach either the save game or pictures. Good luck

[@shotmeonsightplease]

@@DrRetardo8600 But I still think I am right. If you run it with 170-180*C constantly, that might just be to much. Francis' design here will probably not run at full tilt at all times.

[@danbance5799]

@@DrRetardo8600 Self cooling only works up to about 140C. I have done this many times, and I assure you, 140C is the upper limit. You can remove up to 292kdtu/s this way.

[@vojtechfarkas885]

How about using Morbs, they offgas polluted oxygen and you can create them by not emptying latrine. Only issue i see is dealing with excess clay. Assuming you deal with slimelung by immediately deodorizing the oxygen and/or by running it through chlorine submerged gas tank.

[@CaptainLanky]

Can't shove voles vomit regolith into the doors, dig into it and escape? You might need to modify the vole collection room at the top of the map and the room in the mini mega base. Or did that get patched and I missed it?

[@Marcimio]

That only happens if they get to eat anything, so in the base it should be fine.

[@francisdoherty5580]

Question: with the way that convection occurs (or doesn't), could it actually be occurring the way it does because of gravity (possibly microgravity)? That might also explain the way the fluids move.

[@richard2mitchell]

Flotsam had some updates....you plan on looking at it again?

[@custume]

hmm why the tiles next to the limit of the map ? is to get less regolith ??

[@hoovyzepoot]

*31 seconds ago* Well don't mind if I do

[@xPanda25]

Hey Francis John, I'm having a huge issue with the petroleum boiler and I have no idea why. I built it tile for tile like in the tutorials, set the automation wire exactly like how it shows, yet I keep getting a build up of more igneous rock than the mining drill can mine out in the 20 seconds with the filter gate. This is also causing the igneous rock to not be able to fall through the bottom door as well that last tile isn't being mined out in time. I kept trying to troubleshoot but have come up with no reason for why this is and was wondering if this is something you've dealt with?

[@xPanda25]

The build up of igneous eventually causes the magma to flow out the side and come in contact with the metal tile the drill is sitting on, turning the crude oil into sour gas. Granted this takes hundreds of cycles, but it's happened several times as I sometimes leave it running overnight or w/e and will end up having to reload a much earlier save to before it all got destroyed

[@randomdude532]

@@xPanda25 it sounds either like the door at the top is set to open and close too slowly that it lets too much magma in. Perhaps the door is unpowered or the timing is set wrong? If not then the thermo sensor that sits inside of the igneous rock (which i believe is the sensor that controls the door opening and closing) is set wrong. Most likely you have it set to the opposite of what it needs to be. For instance you have it set to above when it needs to be set to below.

[@xPanda25]

@@randomdude532 I discovered it was actually because my computer couldn't handle the game at that point at the max speed, so it was skipping time within cycles which meant the mining drill didnt actually run for 20 seconds it ran for 16, which over time lets the rock and magma build up

[@Bioklonik]

More water from sinks. Build rooms with sinsks divided by rooms that contain germs. After passing through the room they should be wearing germs. In the next room the sinks will remove them. Anyway, several rooms in a row to increase the production of water from the sinks.

[@WickedPonder]

I wonder if duplicants running around washing hands all day would be water positive enough to justify the loss in labor...

[@S_Black]

Sinks don't produce water. Toilets do. You're really harvesting their pee

[@ShadowWolfTJC]

I say start building the Rocket Chimney now, even if not all of the ice has melted on one side of the map. Surely, hot steam should quickly take care of all the remaining ice on that side of the map, right?

[@suzyb1499]

Why do dreckos always get overlooked as a free food source? Feed them balm lilies, which require no resources, and all they take is dupe labour for grooming. Plus they give a nice supply of reed fibre.

[@CGADragon]

I think it's because they live like 100 cycles? Makes for a really long turnaround time.

[@suzyb1499]

@@CGADragon yeah, but they lay an egg every 9 cycles. So it only takes 3 of them to feed a dupe. The gestation for the eggs is 30 cycles tbf (and 10 cycles if you're cold-killing them for reed fibre), but once you've got a steady stream of them, it's free food and reed.

[@Khaim.m]

Balm lilies may be free but they don't grow very fast. And dreckos require heat and can't live in oxygen, which means you have to build a special environment for them. For early game hatches are easy to set up, for late game voles are most efficient (regolith is also free). I'm sure you can ranch dreckos if you want but I wouldn't really recommend it.

[@suzyb1499]

@@Khaim.m oh, totally, hatches are easier and get done first. But drecks aren't especially complicated. I find I'm ready to set them up waaaay before I have space sufficiently tamed to be auto harvesting the regolith. And by that time I have a butt-tonne of reed fibre from several hundred cycles of drecko farming.

[@TheRainfall09]

why is there a damage on the liquid pipe in the petroleum boiler? is that because pressure damage or because magma in the inside door?

[@xPanda25]

Several reasons, first possible reason: He stopped pumping in crude oil, and the crude oil was cooling the petroleum down as it goes down the counter flow. Stopping the crude oil means the petroleum heats up a lot, so the next time he starts pumping crude oil in, it gets so hot that it flashes to petroleum inside the pipe and damages it (usually not a problem unless you're using aluminum pipes in which case you'd need to build insulated pipes until flow starts again and then re-pipe it with radiant pipes)

[@xPanda25]

Second possible reason: The wrong liquid got in and damaged the pipe, which he just mopped up and didn't bother with the pipe (which isn't the most likely but still) A third, although you mentioned pipe it could have been a tile that was damaged and this would be because crude oil takes less space than petroleum, and so when it flashes it has to expand in a short amount of time which can sometimes cause damage to the tile. Usually happens on first startup or when the magma stops transferring a lot of heat, meaning the crude stops converting immediately, and then when the magma cycles and dumps A LOT of heat it can flash all that crude oil instantly again causing damage

[@tejing2001]

You mentioned arbor trees have to be wild to be water positive. This isn't quite strictly true, since you can convert polluted dirt partly into polluted water via offgassing to pufts to algae distillers, and adding that on top of the polluted water from the generators burning the ethanol makes it water positive even on domesticated plants. I get that this isn't really an option here, a rocket chimney is the way to go. I just wanted to clarify the possibility.

[@anil1svnit]

@Francis John Can we use Drecko's Plastic to get Oxygen ?

[@grepgrok8735]

So polluted water bottles have really weird off-gassing mechanics. The short of it is that if you put a whole bunch of bottles on a tile and by putting I think less than 1500 g of water on top makes the bottles off-gas indefinitely. I believe that what is happening is that the bottle measures only the mass of the tile it resides in to decide whether or not to off-gas. Because gas always sits on top of liquid no matter what, the bottle will always read less than 1500g so it will off-gas, gas moves up, bottle reads

[@xPanda25]

He's aware of how off gassing works, and actually has expressed this even in his Rime playthrough. In this map, however, off gassing the water isn't worth the effort to get into. Although it may seem as simple as just sticking a deodorizer next to polluted water, it's a) more valuable to turn it into oxygen via electrolyzer b) requires a ton of filtration medium for the amount of oxygen he would need to produce c) not worth the effort of having to set up a LARGE area for it (again, for the sheer amount of dupes he has to provide oxygen for) and setting up the automation and establishing filters etc. when that effort can go towards the permanent solution of erecting the rocket chimney to supply enough water to cover the deficit the map left him with

[@Vraimorte]

Love these videos.

[@LivingNihilism]

I am confused, how are the robo miners and sweepers in space being prevented from overheating in the current build? I always struggle with that part

[@Khaim.m]

That's a good question. I don't see anything to dissipate the heat so they're going to cook pretty soon. I suspect that in the middle of next episode were going to hear, "oh I forgot to put in cooling for the miners, whoops."

[@JLuz34]

I have ~150 hours into this game and don't understand most end-game stuff, this is base is crazy lol.

[@ericab3919]

How water positive is a rocket chimney anyways? Dont you need a bunch of oxygen to fuel it?

[@aidanatkinson7717]

stick the natural gas generator in an ice biome, emits heat melting ice, produces a lil power, and the water that comes out just let it fall in the biome, its so small it wont really matter by the end.

[@drewbeck5725]

Hey, I was wondering why you didn't use morbs to make oxygen?

[@CuppaLLX]

Cause he kills every morb he sees

[@agrro_krysia3244]

You should install every mod optimizing performance of Oni. Someone mention that if you set priority of every duplicant, then performance will jump too.

This entire episode is: r/Theydidthemath

[@Zaughon]

FYI, Tepidizer has been renamed to "Yepidizer" due to a typo during a conversation. Sincerely, your Discord server :P

[@soniak13]

Thank you!

[@ЭрдэмНиколаев-ц5щ]

using poluted water to purify it with sand to clear oxygen is way better!) you can do it with 2-4 bunkers of poluted water with 10 destroyed tanks of poluted water and it will produce enough oxygen for 20 duplicants*(how many bunkers you will do)

[@Chaoscrider404]

I know this sounds insane, and probably is, but wouldn't filling every unused tile with an actual "tile" reduce calculations and help the processing speed? Less gas, pathing and other calculations...

[@PyrokineticFire1]

i'd assume the best "tile" content to minimize game calculations would be a vacuum. solid tiles don't move, but they have temperature. i guess neutronium would also work for that

[@xPanda25]

Ezekyle Abaddon actually you'd be wrong with that assumption, tile>vacuum>gas/liquid. A vacuum always has to determine whether it can be filled or not, whereas a tile ONLY deals with temperature transfer which helps more with performance.

[@danielliz3004]

You really should put the last 41 dupes in the "hotel" so they generate less lag and consume less oxygen. That way you can actually finish the game

[@Blyndem]

Madness

[@adab1s1]

going to bad use the Sightseeing Module for stasis chamber :D

[@TheMule71]

BTW how's Wojciech Szymski? Why don't we know more about her? What's her story? How are her days like? You never mention her... :( j/k

[@nadiadima9449]

Great job!

[@harriel001]

@FrancisJohn I'm concerned about the modifications you made to the petroleum boiler...you removed all the atmosuit docks and blocked access to the oil biome at the bottom of the map a few videos ago...those build commands you put down there will never be completed if you don't reopen that area and put some suit docks back down there >.

[@harriel001]

oh, wait...nm...I totally missed the fact that dupes in atmosuits were actually walkin around the oil biome in the video getting things done...they must just be coming from the mini-base at the top of the map...that's one hell of a commute...

[@xPanda25]

You missed the part in that episode where he intentionally ripped the atmo suit docks and barred anyone to enter who wasn't part of the 48 dupe mini base who all are allowed in atmo suits

[@bahrisean9116]

I got an idea for future challenge. badlands max difficulty no care package and always take 50 available dupes that shown on printing pod

[@TheKloro]

Is there any difference by digging and melting the ice biome

[@notyou2353]

Digging causes half of whatever's dug to disappear. Melting it does not do that. He melts the ice biomes so he has the most stored water as possible while working towards a more permanent water supply.

[@syn6109]

somthing i learnt reacently abaut space in oni 3000kg steel is not enaugh steel

[@GeneralBlorp]

Music at the end isn't quite right ...

[@tyraelpl]

FJ you need a sponsor (looking at you Klei...) who will pay for your new PC with like 128 CPUs and 64 GPUs and prolly like a couple of TBs of RAM so that you can play the game in some humane conditions :P (To those who can't read between the lines and dont recognize the joke, it's joke. I am aware that such a "PC" wouldnt be a PC and that it's prolly not possible by conventional means.) On the serious note tho, thank you for the video and thank you for all the numbers! Those put things nicely into perspective. 24:45 Sven or Svein?

[@128randomness]

Furthermore, the game isn't multithreaded enough to max out one CPU, let alone 128 of them, and neither the GPU or RAM are bottlenecks in this case, so such a PC wouldn't improve performance whatsoever.

[@tyraelpl]

@@128randomness Wow... you rly RLY RLY are utterly unable to read between the lines. It would improve performance a bit tho. Force system to run on one cpu and dedicate a whole free one for the game. I assume you are intelligent enough to know what is the point that I was making.

[@kelciheit]

Wow even after +1000 hours, I don’t know how I didn’t somehow realize that the world was round...

[@keonwilson3505]

Why not give all your dupes an extra bathroom break? Provided you have the bathrooms for them to use, 6.7 times 92 dupes times (for example) two bathroom breaks would net you a little over 1.2 tonnes of (polluted) water in excess after using it,all over the course of 1 cycle. Maybe that'd make for a nice buffer of water until you get the chimney running, in exchange for a slot you could normally use for work.

[@KerbalLauncher]

You see the interaction with the salt water at 38:40? There is actually a bug that allows you to multiply liquid. I found this out using supercoolant. Maybe this can be a good interim water supply solution.

[@stefanoehme1083]

Would a mod to cancel unnecessary dupe and mechanical animations make the game run smoother?🤔

[@S_Black]

Graphics aren't the problem. The simulation is

[@benjaminolsson2162]

When you do get around to the rocket chimney, make sure the aquatuners run with very small loops of super coolant but with larger loops of petroleum or something to spread out the cooling to the chimney itself. Otherwise you'll need huge quantities of super coolant just to get it started. And it simply isn't worth to use anything else than super coolant in the aquatuners when you need that much cooling. Also, get a rocket running soon so you'll have a bit of space recourses and the research needed for the hydrogen rockets before the chimney is finished.

[@Vogelgangg]

To get super coolant you first need to get a rare resource from space unless your talking about upgrading it it will just have to be Steam turbines for now

[@Vogelgangg]

hey are you ever on the discord?

[@irfanalfarabbi]

Still not using 6 Scanners eh? For the sake of 100% network quality 😂

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I can live with a little inefficiency so I don't have to deal with the doors opening and closing.

[@nematrec1]

I've asked before, but can you send out notices on patreon for those of us who like emails? KZbin stopped sending those out for videos.

[@MasterZenII]

I think bottles of polluted water that sit in a thin puddle of clean water offgas a lot more than they are supposed to... Kinda exploit-y but if you gotta get 141 duplicants enough oxygen to breathe... >.>

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Water is the source of all long term O2 supplies, does not matter if you electrolize it or off gas it from polluted water. The real bottle neck is always the water source, we just need more of it.

[@rupertbear4447]

dam a minute

[@duplicantlivesmatter9083]

6:36 * duplicant 91. You killed one of your patreons. 😢

[@Vogelgangg]

It wasnt himself it was the horrible pausing

[@duplicantlivesmatter9083]

Norm 😅 haha true. His poor computer

[@Vogelgangg]

@@duplicantlivesmatter9083 Indeed

[@gp6763]

I tried to do the same thing.. but my CPU didn't agreed :(

[@clemensfrank9304]

You don't actually have to rot food to have polluted oxygen offgassing. You may also just have botles of polluted water on the ground, as it is not consumed while offgassing, if I'm not mistaken . So you would have to invest a bit of your toilet water, but you would get infinite oxygen out of it. I think Brothgar even made a video on it.

[@mikeroch7393]

He did this in his Baby Base series where he built liquid tanks, filled them up and then deconstructed. I'm surprised as well he isn't considering this. It feels a bit exploity, but if used it there shouldn't have a problem in here as well. :)

[@tullowitsch]

yeah :D

[@TeresaHetu]

You need to remove all extra ladders you don't need. every ladder adds significant calculations to duplicant pathing. if you click a dupe and look at their pathing calculations you'll see why ladders are so bad.

[@Hedning1390]

You do NOT have to plant wild trees. Domestic is great with the farming station and that way you'll need 1/8th the amount of trees. You'll get it in no time at all. With the farming station it is very water positive, and the polluted dirt generated can offgas into loads of o2. 4 petrol gen +16 ethanol distillers + 17 trees grown with farmers touch + 1.2 (=2) fertilizer synthesizers + 0.13333 (=1) natural gas generators + 12 groomed and happy pips +2 groomed and happy dreckos turns into 587kg polluted water and 3200kg polluted dirt per cycle. This is enough to oxygenate 60 dupes. Spoiler: You have a planet with pips and acorns at 40k.

[@jivansh]

I would not normally trust the polluted dirt, but in this case, francis has plenty of time to set it up for offgasing. I do not think he would go that way tho, because he believes he can build a chimney faster than setting it up, i am a bit disappointed tho, IMHO, water generation thro chimney is too exploity. The chimney should not be able to get you more water than the weight of the fuel.

[@Frohoth]

There's still a bug right? Fertilizer doesn't speed up the growth of the tree branches

[@Hedning1390]

@@Frohoth It worked fine a couple months ago.

[@johnarmitage3452]

u should do a no recruitment run after this

[@DearValentina]

vore ranch :o

[@keatoncampbell820]

It's time for you to get a threadripper so you can actually run the game with 141 dupes and a chimney

[@Notllamalord]

Your poor computer