Badlands Hungry Dupes 18 : Scanners, Solar, Regolith and Batteries : Oxygen Not included

[@GrindThisGame]

Glad to see you taking that battery box to ludicrous levels :)

[@DasPanoptikum]

Congrats for winning the 100 dupe challenge. Also, thanks for pointing me to Francis Johns channel, you have not exaggerated when you talked about his playstyle. Surely amazing stuff

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Loving the 100 dupe challenge, I really want to give it a try as some point. You are going to result in my PC melting.

[@GrindThisGame]

@@FrancisJohnYT Yeah I needed a new computer to get more than 10 fps :P I think the beta branch has some performance optimizations on it. Some things seem way faster. Unfortunately 12 of my 16 cores sit almost idle :(

[@FrancisJohnYT]

@@GrindThisGame most games still can't take advantage of lots of cores. I usually favour higher clock speeds over more cores. I feel like you only upgraded recently, do you upgrade once a year?

[@Beregorn88]

the amount of procrastination he is putting in in order to avoid doing a regolith melter...

[@Majromax]

Don't forget the rust melter!

[@FrancisJohnYT]

The timetable is, small space program, say 6 rockets. Then Rust melter, then retrofit the rust melter to do regolith once all the rust is gone.

[@GazeboPelt]

I'd suggest the use of 2 mods; one for quality of life, and one for clarity. The first is Suppress Notifications, as it satisfies my OCD of only having notifications that I want to take action on. The second is Show Building Ranges. It's a lifesaver when trying to plan out things like space scanners, pumps, and everything else that has a range.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Everytime my game crashes the mods all get dropped so I have to suppress everything again, it's the reason I stopped using it. For some reason my play style results in a few crashes. Will give show ranges a try, that sounds useful.

[@laelienriviere5735]

Episode 18, and the map isn't cored out just yet? Oh Francis, how you have changed. Just kidding, I love how you keep each playthrough fresh and different from the last one, it's awesome!

[@FrancisJohnYT]

It's more that I can't hire as many dupes as quickly due to the ravaging hunger, it slowed me down no end. But I'v got 30 now, it's soon time to clean out the asteroid.

[@oofje435]

I can't believe you made that steam turbine to cool the battery box out of lead, it should've been steel!

[@FrancisJohnYT]

My apologies I will correct that travesty immediately :P

[@eragonawesome]

No need to apologize for late uploads, I don't think any of us even know what day it is anymore at this point. There's three days in terms of scheduling now and they are "Yesterday, today, tomorrow"

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Yeah I'm feeling that to.

[@FerrybigGaming]

9:08 Heavy conductive wire made of gold?? It needs to be steel! Don't think we won't notice this! :-)

[@FrancisJohnYT]

My power spine is always made of gold, also I burned almost 100 tons of steel on that monstrosity I don't think I could have afforded any more.

[@Jules_Diplopia]

The insanity goes on.... Please never stop. You are an inspiration.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I'll do my best... to stay insane I suppose :)

[@Shindo13371]

Another reason to use dispensers that I don't think he mentioned is that loaders count as heavy machinery whereas dispensers do not. Which means that you can safely place them in range of scanners without interference. Not relevant for his setup here obviously but an important thing to note when collecting regolith.

[@Albert-yu1cg]

"The Steel Place"

[@Ozmundas]

Steel .. Palace ? :)

[@teecchnoboy]

aaand we are back

[@similar_username]

Day 2 of asking him to fill the core with steel

[@frogdan]

Liquid steel, I presume.

[@isawadelapradera6490]

@@frogdan Liquid steel molten with jet fuel.

[@similar_username]

@@frogdan I was tinking metal tiles but now I want liquid steel just to torture him

[@rubikmonat6589]

Gotta do something with that iron falling from the sky. Caves of Steel.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I mean... in theory. But it takes 3870kg of molten steel to fill one tile. Just to cover the bottom row of tiles of the map (256) would take 990 tons of steel. So the bottom 10 tiles of the map would easily take 10,000 tons of steel when you add in liquid compression. Even after I convert all the rust to iron I'd max out at about 1000 tons of steel. I would need way more pokeshells. And a lot of rockets. Also tens of thousands of cycles.

[@KubratTomov]

Here you are and i'm struggling to make a steel aquatuner on the volcanea map, sob sob. But the space setup you are using is top! I'm using it every time, though with rocked suits, i'm too lazy to build all the ladders.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Be careful with the rocket suits, it has a tendency to slow games a crawl unless you restrict them substantially.

[@b1ngnx33]

AND WE'RE BACK.........Luv that line!!!

[@Majromax]

I think the scanner/bunker door arrangement can be made more efficient with a memory block. Take the existing output of the scanner (green = meteor, after 160s -- signal M). Pass it through a not gate (!M). !M goes to the R port of a memory block (output B). Output B goes to the bunker doors. It also goes to a buffer gate (10s, output B'). B and B' go to an XOR gate (B"), then (M AND B") go to the S port of the memory block. If I've drawn this out correctly, the circuitry after the memory block will result in a green signal only if the door state has not changed for 10 seconds. That signal acts to filter the "open the doors" signal from the scanner, so a brief pulse of "doors closed, forget the meteors boys" gets ignored, but at the end of a meteor shower the doors will have been closed for a while and the open signal should go straight through.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Will give this a go, could save 10 seconds of solar power each time.

[@Majromax]

Oops! In reading this out again, I realize I've messed up some NOT gates. First of all, M, not !M, goes to the R port of the scanner. The memory block should output a red signal when meteors are detected, and you get that by resetting the output on detection. Second, the output of B" should also go through a NOT gate. (B xor B') will be green when the signal has changed recently, and we need to invert that to forbid setting the memory block. Finally, the S port of the memory block should get (M AND !B").

[@Omni0404]

I cored out a warm biome that was between 2 frozen areas and created the "battery biome." I left all the abyssalite and packed as many lead batteries as humanly possible with a steam turbine/aqua tuner on top piping around polluted water. Even though I have to keep them under 110 degrees I have the whole biome chilled to like 10 just because why not?

[@2000Meilen]

If you happen to have another ~700 tonnes of steel then you can replace all those Temp Shiftplates in the battery box with steel.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

You monster :)

[@JerekDain]

Blood for the blood god! Steel for the battery box!

[@jamesdill6970]

I did the math. There are 200 jumbo batteries in the battery box. Each leeches out 2KJ per cycle, or 3.33j per second. At 200 batteries, your looking at a loss equivalent of 667 watts. You’d need 2 solar panels operating at near maximum charge to make up that difference. This is why you use the smart batteries.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Yeah, but that is not nearly as much fun :)

[@sebbes333]

*@Francis John* A thought, is it possible to build a base with almost no piping? (to maybe reduce lag) eg: You need to move liquid from the bottom of the map to the top: use a door compressor or other glitch to infinitely compress the liquid into a 1 tile shaft that pushes it all up, then at the top you MAYBE have a pump & pump it the shortest distance possible, into some machine that needs it. eg: No cooling loops that go all around the map, instead you have a "shower system" that drops the cooling liquid along maybe a staircase design that cools down & provides the cooling. And so on. I think this would be a really interesting challenge. The a big problem is probably moving gases around, but maybe something like the liquid system can be used? But the biggest problem is probably moving power around, since there are no way to move power outside of wires (it would be fun if it was possible to build iron floors & walls & just electrify it (@modders, hint hint ;) ), but you could for example move petroleum up close to the generators & just pump it in the last shortest distance.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I don't think power wires are bad for lag. However pipe most certainly are, if I limited myself on the cooling front I could speed up the game by a lot. Though I let the game run overnight with a big sweep command and the game appears to have improved in speed.

[@Bastit3hman]

STEEL FOR THE STEEL BATTERIES! HEAT FOR THE HOT BOX!

[@raulpestonitjr1301]

viewers: Why are you using the large batteries, you yourself admmited that the power bank would be less energy and resource efficient as a result! Francis: It's not about the power storage... It's about sending a message

[@annoyannoy]

Since you're going for such a hot map, how about turning the entire asteroid into a giant steam room? Or ethanol gas, it looks cool!

[@michaelsotomayor5001]

190° C map.. damn lol

[@annoyannoy]

@@michaelsotomayor5001 naah, keep it somewhere at 150C :) Also ethanol becomes gas at 80C i think? Not sure

[@thebosstre]

I just stared at the thumbnail. KNOWING 100% THATS ITS NOT CLICKBAIT

[@FrancisJohnYT]

You may have the unfair advantage of knowing that I use screenshots from my game only.

[@thebosstre]

@@FrancisJohnYT thats why I love your channel. Crazy stuff that we all know is true insanely to do in a game :O Ps how many hours do you have in the game?

[@esaedromicroflora1247]

got the same ranching bug with just 7 hatches/stone hatches ranches. Very annoying. I noticed it just because I periodically follow a random dupe to check if he's really doing the jobs according to priorities. Only save-reload fixed it, but now it haunts me

[@FrancisJohnYT]

It is a bit of an annoyance all right, so much wasted steel and food.

[@eventprogenitor1873]

In your hot bettery box why use air flow tiles over all mesh tiles so any water that can potentially cools would just drop onto the floor to then be heated up?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Convection is not a mechanic in this game. If I let the water go all the way to the bottom the bottom will just get colder than the top. If I let the water drop into the middle of the box and stop it there that should keep the average temperature across the room more even. As the (water) cooling is as equidistant from all sources of heat as possible.

[@eventprogenitor1873]

@@FrancisJohnYT ah never tried the hot box cooling

[@ianmalkaviac]

Now you can run the hot regolith through a sauna room to bleed off the heat and produce more energy using conveyors, maybe through the battery sauna.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Not sure I have enough steam in the battery sauna for that, would prefer the pressure to be closer to 100kg to be safer. If the temp in there hit 300C all the batteries would start breaking.

[@randomzocker8956]

Is the battery array with the Steam turbine power neutral? How much of the energy leak do the batteries produce in heat? If they produce less heat than the energy leak actually should cause then the whole array will suck a lot of power.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

The whole thing is a net energy loss, it costs roughly 600 watts in run off and you only make back about 200. But on the bright side it's fun to build and is a cooling solution with no moving parts.

[@Tamizushi]

If you use smart batteries, it's almost power neutral. It costs 125 watt of which you get about 100 back as heat. The bad side is that you only get half the power storage, but then again you only need half the steel. You could easily make the batterie box pay for itself if you used it to cool down regolith though.

[@Wheedlinglemur]

Dear God, so much steel!

[@monolythspartan]

the thing with the ranches is I think similar to what brothgar ran into when he was making a large contraption in the upper portions of the map. The game seems to forget what is supposed to be going on if the player doesn't occasionally look the camera over an area. The more time you spend away from an area, the game looses track of stuff beyond your view. A reverse of how the game gets more sluggish the more you uncover since it is tracking fewer things at the start.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I went back to my sauna at one point to find the petroleum in the bottom was almost overflowing, game forgot to pump into into the generator.

[@monolythspartan]

@@FrancisJohnYT just have to babysit the map with a bit of camera movement maybe every.. five-ten minutes? Sadly, I imagine the game would shatter if it had to, like a player might assume, keep everything computing even when out of focus.

[@s19tealpenguin61]

Do you think you'll be able to get enough steel to make a line of Great Monuments from one end of the map to the other?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I think that should be very possible, though I would most likely spend all the steel on something before I got around to building them.

[@ArcaneXanth]

Steel for the Steel God!

[@OmegaGamingNetwork]

Off topic, but I blame you for getting me addicted to Rimworld. I finally bought it a few weeks ago and am currently dealing with the madness of "Why the F are these muppets choosing the middle of a 100 tribal raid to start punching each other in the face??" I've already have a few pawns that are in "timeout" in a sarcophagus in the freezer in spite of me having several rez serums until I'm less angry with them.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I need that laugh, I know exactly that feeling. Muppets. Stay strong and don't let their stupidity stop you.

[@kurgisempyrion6125]

Francis talking about poker nights... *looks at Dupe stress hitting 60+* hmm yes it seems so :)

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I think I had just let a dupe out of a rocket, they were missing all their bonus. Poker night was great.

[@ariscop]

Built a scanner setup like that and it caused so many problems, if only scanners would latch on until the shower is over

[@FrancisJohnYT]

A quick 10 second delay helps a lot.

[@matthewghilarducci5033]

If you decon and recon the grooming stations it fixes that bug. Had the same problem.

[@stevethemastersword]

interesting note on the smart vs jumbo battery thing, smart batteries are more power efficient for generating heat, generating 500 dtus for 400 joules lost, whereas jumbos produce 1250 dtus for 2000 joules lost

[@FrancisJohnYT]

The reason I did not go with them is it would have cost me 500 steel vs 400 for the same amount of heat and two and a half times as much space. To 2 and a half times as much mesh tiles. So more accurately 1000 vs 600 steel. Even if all the pokeshells were working correctly I could not manage that. As it was I now need more steel :(

[@TheKderosa]

In my latest map I’ve built a remarkably similar system to yours with a scanner array with perfect coverage on the left. Rockets in the middle. And the solar array on the right with one scanner relying on the perfect network coverage. Be careful I had to add an automation line to this solar array scanner because when the network signaled incoming meteors and closed the bunker doors the solar array scanner would immediately open its doors as soon as they closed presumably because it had not yet detected the meteors and then list the network signal as soon as the bunker doors had closed. Perhaps, your filter gate will solve this annoying problem. I just ran an automation line across the rocket bays and haven’t had a problem since. I used my overflow oxygen vented onto the robominers with drywall backing instead of a loop. Has worked well for hundreds of cycles at 200 g/s oxygen distributed to the robominers. You can also add a simple regolith removal system by placing an automatic dispenser below each robominer station along with an auto sweeper for each station. If you position the automatic dispensers right so that the auto sweeper can only access one automatic dispenser and the tile where the automatic dispenser drops material at an adjacent station (I did this by placing the dispenser on a mesh tile and extending the bottom tile of the robominer tiles down by one) you can daisy chain the automatic dispenser to move the regolith either left or right then place a vole ranch right underneath the end automatic dispenser station so it falls right in.

[@TheKderosa]

Oh I see you ran into the same problem. Just run an automation wire to the scanner.

[@TheKderosa]

I also see you had the same daisy chain the automatic dispenser idea too. It works surprisingly well. drop the regolith right into a vole ranch through a pneumatic door.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Dropping the regolith right into the ranch is the plan, I have a mountain of the stuff to get rid of.

[@danielsattler5677]

Any possibility of you doing a petroleum boiler with a thermium aquatuner? I'm trying one out and having nothing but issues.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Here is the most recent one I built, the save file is in the description. For a first time I recommend putting a Tepedizer in the aquatuner output area to keep it warm. It is hits absolute zero you cannot generate any more heat. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jp2pna2Yns1mgKc

[@danielsattler5677]

@@FrancisJohnYT You're the best! Hadn't gotten through the rime play through yet.

[@pronkel]

as always thanks for the video :)

[@FrancisJohnYT]

As always thanks for the thanks :)

[@G.r.e.g.g.l.e.s]

Why would you want to trade 25 times the power leakage per joule stored, for a net loss in power even after running the steam turbine? For what? Double the storage potential to save on space? To save on steel?

[@UgatoSA]

Considering he's making enough power to fill up batteries instantly without stopping any consumption whatsoever, the battery box is more of a monument to absurdity than any even remotely practical design

[@Ozmundas]

He stated that Jumbo batteries actually use MORE steel :) It didn't save anything ... and that was kinda the point :)

[@boristetevi2338]

i realy like the way u play the game

[@Sheldezare]

So Francis... what do you think about space crabs and their superpower to generate steel out of thin air?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I'm always going to be ranching space crabs from now on, which I suppose means I'll always be doing trees and ethanol.

[@Sheldezare]

@@FrancisJohnYT I still think you should try out that snakelet mod. You'd finally have a use for the boulder asteroid features as the tough snakelets feed on obsidian and shear steel.

[@Genesis8934]

A note: Ep. 17 isn't in the playlist for this series btw! Great series though! :)

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Oh thanks! Have fixed that.

[@fernando_eac]

I'm having the same bug you have with pokeshells on my slicksters, my game is also losing performace when i use the liquid overlay and i have waaaaaaaaaay less pipes.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

The game has issues when you get a bit big, I think I need to organise a big big sweep and let it run all night.

[@richard2mitchell]

When you going to make a liquid steel tank?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Nope, just nope. I still have to make a rust melter and melt 350 tons of rust.

[@Ozmundas]

@@FrancisJohnYT I'm looking forward to seeing that done actually ! Never occurred to me to even try that.

[@CuppaLLX]

The problem also is steels liquid point is over 2500 degrees, not 250, two thousand, finding something f that can hone 2.5k liquid let alone output that level of heat will be interesting

[@StephenHey]

I like 2020 version of Francis John. Niobium instead of Nubidium. :P

[@Runie2607]

You can snake all the hot regolith through the battery box for even more power...and to waste more steel

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I was tempted but I wanted to keep the battery box pure, well except for the gold volcano of course :) The regolith will all end up getting melted or fed to shove voles at the end of the day.

[@Brogrove]

Can't you use a flip-flop (memory toggle) to keep the bunker doors closed?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Don't think so, the issue is the scanner stops seeing the meteors when the doors close and sends the open signal. I put a 10 second delay which is overkill but it ensures the doors stay closed until the meteors start at which point the scanner is 100% to detect it.

[@michaelsotomayor5001]

That's weird on the ranching.. I wanted to make a tier of different critters and hoped to get an abyssal bug.. Now I'm scared of putting effort in it to fall down the wayside.

[@gerb1419]

do u have guide for building this systems like scanners, solar panels, rockets ?

[@ChristianAkacro]

You should look at doing some Sweepy geothermal to clear out the core magma like in Brothgar's latest vids.

[@Garueri]

I think sweepys only sweep liquid with a mod installed, and I don't know if Francis would be found of installing a mod to do that. I know they carry liquid bottles but I'm not sure if they bottle the liquids

[@ChristianAkacro]

@@Garueri afaik vanilla sweepys can sweep up liquids to their dock and when dupes remove it they take it out in bottles.

[@Garueri]

Christian Akacro really? That’s interesting, but is it worth it? I saw his video and he took 3 dupes to make 9000, using francis geothermal volcano tammer he can get constant turbines automatically

[@ChristianAkacro]

@@Garueri Sure... it's not so much about the efficiency of it as a different method of emptying the magma biome since Francis is trying new things this time round.

[@Garueri]

@@ChristianAkacro That's an interesting approach, will take some time but making use of that core is already awesome

[@chrisrodriguez2275]

Why not drop the regolith into the bat box? Feed it to the critters after you take its energy.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I might do that, had so many projects going on at once I did not want to add another. I should have put in a shove vole farm already so I could start thinning out the regolith.

[@REGANELITE]

Just a suggestion but have you tried replacing the stations so the poke shells get groomed?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Yes, have tried adding a second station as well and same problem. Disable and enable same problem. Only fix is a restart and even then it's on temporary.

[@uther10]

Lol dont think Ill go that far with steel but thanks again for the video!

[@frogdan]

Mantle of Steel

[@danielsilva1423]

John what is the name of the mod to desconstruct interest points ?

[@fl0ok]

Deconstructable POI Props

[@GazeboPelt]

Destructable POI props

[@TheLoneWolfling]

...Aren't you losing more energy due to the power runoff than you're getting?

[@davawen9938]

Yes, he said it

[@juanpedropascual1621]

Yeah, he mentioned that. But to be fair he has so much power input that he probably wastes more from the power not having available storage than the power loss from the batteries themselves so why not :)

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Oh yes, but it with the power spikes of solar it's very much worth it. Also it's a form of cooling with zero moving parts which is kinder to my hurt frame rate.

[@Beef1188]

Next up - magma boiling room! >:)

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Not quite I want to get rockets sorted so a quick liquid O2 and H2 and about 6 rockets should cut it.

[@annoyannoy]

Do airflow tiles not leak gases to space?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

No, their is a complicated patch history but airflow and mesh do no leak gas or liquid out the back of them into space.

[@annoyannoy]

@@FrancisJohnYT that would have simplified things when i was building battery boxes using metal tiles

[@dannydeveto4475]

Take one scanner and direct it to the Rocket silo doors to open when detected

[@thesentientneuron6550]

Can you get steel from asteroids?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Yes, I'm going to harvest them to. Next up is a small rocket program.

[@sbmkathex]

Can you use the new ribbon automation to automate the doors in some way?

[@raptor0286]

with all the transfo and baterie you should expect 202w of power output on the steam turbine but waste 600w on the batteries runoff

[@FrancisJohnYT]

At a cost of only 100 tons of steel what a bargain :) I did something similar to this with transformers in a Debug video, I wanted to do something similar in a real game. This is the only game where I have enough steel to do it. The real question is what do I do with the next 500 tons of steel?

[@raptor0286]

Francis John if i was in your shoes i would make a molten steal pool in my base using a regolite melter to preheat the steal to around 1200. Watever you do im sure its gonna be intertening.tanks for the great content

[@firefly6198]

Does your Steel system run-out of something at some point ?

[@DasPanoptikum]

Great panzer of the lake, what is your wisdom? :D

[@firefly6198]

@@DasPanoptikum The DEUTSCHE REICH WILL AUFERSTEHEN !!!!!!!!!! ;D

[@DasPanoptikum]

@@firefly6198 that's some scary wisdom, Mr panzer

[@firefly6198]

@@DasPanoptikum Doubt IST EIN SIGN OF WEAK!!

[@FrancisJohnYT]

It will run out of Iron first then coal/carbon. However both are theoretically renewable from space. But in practice it will be limited by the Iron on the map, once that is gone it will slow down a lot.

[@WeirdOne19142]

Using the heat from battery inefficiency in order to create the power necessary to hear said batteries, and the entire thing is power positive. It always makes me laugh when people make comparisons between this game and objective laws of physics. 😂

[@FrancisJohnYT]

It's not quite power positive unfortunately, however it is a cooling solution with zero moving parts :)

[@acz.24]

I found that if i turn on low-res textures, my computer doesnt die as hard

[@TheGalifrey]

In this case the issue is the calculations, low-res textures won't help at all.

[@artur6912]

@@TheGalifrey Yeah, the game would greatly benefit from better multi core support.

[@TheGalifrey]

@@artur6912 Better or some? :D My CPU is at 12% and my GPU at 13% and I am getting 13 fps :(

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I let it run overnight doing a full sweep, it helped a lot. Debris is still a big hog, it's one of the reasons I got the regolith management into play so soon.

[@Striiket]

I've been watching your videos for some time, and cannot figure out how you get away with clearing the map without lag? I just hit cycle 2000 with 21 dupes and it became unplayable. Are there specific things I need to take into account here? IE, store all the debris? All the posts I find on this topic are over 2 years old.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Sweep the map and put all the debris in one spot it is the one biggest improvement you can make to your game. Have a google for the Bulk Storage tutorial.

[@dunning-kruger551]

What is the purple liquid lock?

[@AKUJIVALDO]

Viscogel..?

[@dunning-kruger551]

@@AKUJIVALDO yeah I know that now thanks! I had no idea back then!

[@MJnyxstar]

Just feeding the algorithm

[@XconeArtist]

Does that mean patreon ppl are now also sponsoring your poker hobbies, next to you wiskey, chocolate and potatoes hobbies?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Not quite, all pateron proceeds will only be spent on the good stuff. However the Whiskey and chocolate I consume during the poker may be from the pateron funding.

[@WeirdOne19142]

An upload on a Sunday?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

My schedule is all over the place, as soon as they are ready I kick them out the door now.

[@WeirdOne19142]

Yay!

[@WeirdOne19142]

@@FrancisJohnYT you are far and away my favorite KZbinr. If you made 5 videos a day, I would watch 5 videos a day 😎.

[@Soul-Burn]

You get power from your batteries... and a gold volcano.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

That will go dormant soon, it will be fine.

[@stevethemastersword]

you know since one of the challenges for this paythrough was to only get plastic from glossy dreckos, maybe next playthrough you should try to only refine raw metals using smooth hatches

[@AndyPue]

So two extreme types of players: a) Those that cook their base by carelessly putting a battery too close to their farm. b) Those that use a volcano to preheat their battery box cooling solution. My comfort zone is somewhere between a) and b). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Oopsie223]

You’re nuts 😂

[@Nikletheman]

just put a steel automation rail loop through magma and ship the regolith into it.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I want to do a counterflow heat system to recycle the heat, that way I can convert the system straight to a regolith melter.

[@annoyannoy]

There is a great mod that shows the range of buildings, it was a must have for me when i started doing space. steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1960996649 Really simplifies things, especially with scanners!

[@JessWLStuart]

STEAL FOR THE STEAL GOD!

[@128randomness]

Commit theft for the commit theft god!

[@AKUJIVALDO]

Heretics needs get cleansing, call IOM NOW!

[@genisguillem]

:)

[@ChristianAkacro]

Triple first! Not on the bell squad even!!

[@Varmint111]

Don't you think what you have there is super excessive just to move "regolith" away from the surface? That's such an unnecessary amount of effort and energy that you have to go spend just to push meteor debris away. Nothing else, just push 1000's of tonnes of regolith out of the way. I really don't think thats the way to make space more difficult. Meteors? Yes, definitely. 100 tonne of regolith dumped on your base every cycle? Come on. Who thought this was best way to make a space program complicated? If you want space to be more difficult, why not some sort of rocket maintenance/repair? Maybe a rocket can sometimes have an accident and you have to send a rescue rocket to help out. Maybe the rockets need to overcome gravity with a powerful first stage or maybe the 100k+ ring needs a 2nd "long haul" stage that requires double size liquid hydrogen and oxygen tanks made of space metal due to immense long term storage pressure. Maybe the rocket command module has to be filled with enough food for the dupe/s. Also on top of all this, if you have water and oil geyers, the oil reservoirs don't run out. So... You don't even need space harvesting for any reason. Like.. Who is urgently building liquid cargo rocket fleets to collect water? That would be an AWESOME situation to be in.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

The Regolith was introduced to act as a replacement for filtration medium, in the before time maps use to run out of sand and dirt. Regolith solved the problems but then they introduced more solutions later that made regolith redundant. Sort of the same as algae distilleries, due to the introduction of electrolizers and renewable water no one every needs to use them.

[@boristetevi2338]

First

[@commonsense-og1gz]

if you use diamond tiles, or metal tiles, could the miners be cooled without liquid by cooling the tiles that the miner is attached to?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Unfortunately no, tiles do not exchange heat with buildings directly. Their needs to be a medium like gas or liquid for that to happen.

[@commonsense-og1gz]

@@FrancisJohnYT having a high temp steam line used to cool a steel miner for a volcano petrol boiler might be something i explore in the future.