[1463] Better Than Most: Vaultek VS20 Gun Safe

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The old video I discussed: [1044] Opened With FORK: Vaultek LifePod Gun Safe
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[@unintentionallydramatic]

A gun safe that LPL considers better than hiding the gun under your carpet is literally a museum-worthy device of legend.

[@jme36053]

@Unintentionaly Dramatic. Clearly a cause for celebration at Vaultek Corporate HQ?

[@aeislugh]

a review they could put on their packaging "Better than most" - Lockpicking Lawyer

[@unintentionallydramatic]

@@jme36053 Celebration? _CELEBRATION_ ? This is worth 3 week company retreat to Dubai or Bali with all expenses paid. Most gun safes will find ways to shoot your dog if you don't align them with the magnetic north while throwing salt over your shoulder and chanting the Lotus Sutra.

[@pyrob2142]

@@aeislugh I would absolutely purchase locks with that approval. I mean most of the time it takes him longer to introduce himself and the lock, than picking it.

[@XMeK]

@@pyrob2142 Agreed, I've only heard him say "I might consider this lock for such and such". NEVER heard him say "This is a great lock".

[@Ampheon181]

"Better than most" is a glowing review compared to the other gun safes on the channel

[@CupCatsss]

Yeah, the safe manufacturers must all be cheering at their desks saying “WE DID IT, WE WERE CALLED BETTER THAN MOST!!”

[@cheeseburgerbeefcake]

gun safes? more like 95% of the products shown!

[@delpinsky]

Also, if you consider "they" contacted LPL to let him know they were patching the old model, correcting the flaws, I think it's the way to go for a company who is responsible. After all, gun safes are important, especially in USA, where everyone can own a weapon very easily.

[@J-Post86]

"This could be a reasonable choice". One of the best compliments they could get from LPL

[@reallyniock]

This is the only small gun safe period that I've ever seen a good review about, and this is a hell of a trusted source.

[@altercaze]

Props to Vaultek, quick on the response, take criticism. Most importantly, they value their products! This should be the RIGHT way of doing business!

[@FoxRayne]

Unfortunately, in our economy at least, the "RIGHT" way of doing business is costly and not very rewarding by the business standards, which is why most other companies don't do business the "RIGHT" way. :(

[@altercaze]

Sadly, true.

[@itsmikehayden]

Vaultek: *nudges Master* "Eh? Eh? No? Just us? Cool story."

[@DiehardMechWarrior]

>valuing product over employees >“right” way of doing business Yup. Sure seems like it.

[@kirvis250]

Aaaannd by doing so they got the best advertisement that even money can't buy.

[@durathuril7343]

Something tells me Vaultec staff had a moment of panic but are now breaking out the champagne. LPL praised them twice in one video, and said that their safe had won the highly coveted "very reasonable choice" designation. What an achievement.

[@MrHobj34]

your mama

[@_EllieLOL_]

@@MrHobj34 yes

[@Pip2andahalf]

Seriously. They made the right move.

[@JS-rv3et]

i wonder what lock would earn the . damn now thats a good lock 10/10 couldn't pick again. edit some grammar commi is calling out my typo so whatever

[@TheBurningWarrior]

@@JS-rv3et I think the world locks in kingdom hearts had that designation before he got together with Bosnian Bill to make a tool for picking keyblade style locks.

[@satorudo]

The fact it beeps when you open with a key is actually kind of genius

[@ThatGuy-fi9bm]

It really kinda is

[@sonman3694]

I kind of agree

[@elfferich1212]

Yes but then it resets when you remove the battery kind of makes it useless

[@JordanVic87]

Got to kinda give them props for that

[@dacaca]

​@@elfferich1212 yes, but it resets the pasword too, and if anything without the password open the box picking the cylinder and remove the battery, it will forget the password and the the owner can identify the tamper because the box not remember the original password. Anyway the safe of a box that can be opened by medium-light brute forze have no sense in terms of security.

[@maxmillian3527]

A company responding to product criticism in a positive manner is an honorable company. Due to LPL's video and their response, I purchased two of their Lifepod products and love them. Win-win overall. The company receives more sales, LPL shows he's not out to get companies but just trying to improve the industry, and I have a safe vetted by the master himself. I spent a long while before buying gun safe because I was skeptical of many brand's security based on LPL's and other's videos, all showing how easy it is to get into them. With ensuring safety against adolescents being my #1 concern, a video like this is really reassuring to me.

[@DiscipleGames]

@@mackmcmillan9905 why are your names so similar I don’t like it

[@DiscipleGames]

@@mackmcmillan9905 he used a Kryptonite Evolution as of 3 years ago

[@mackmcmillan9905]

@@DiscipleGames Thank you!

[@troyclayton]

Stopping some adolescents is harder than stopping any normal intruder. When I was 14 I got access to my father's keys for 30 minutes and had a hand filed copy ready to go (already had a blank I bought). It was for porn (early 80s), our guns weren't locked- how could we go shoot when he wasn't home if they were locked up? The only way he could have stopped me is if he never took the keys out of his pocket, and wore them to bed. Pants on the floor and I would have had my copy.

[@EnsignLovell]

@sewagii You clearly must have not watched the video, the company made a new safe, the problem was not present. Just because someone engineering it can have a minor oversight, doesn't mean they are a bad company. I mean they literally sent out kits and made their customers aware of the flaw, didn't just sweep it under the proverbial rug. Yes this comment does make sense, it is about the video, the company in the video, and that company's products. If a company is willing to acknowledge and fix their short comings within a matter of days, that's a good company, doesn't matter if they made a mistake, as long as it is not made again and they learn from it enforcing new policies due to it.

[@linksbro1]

Honestly the lock box itself isn't the main reason I would recommend their stuff, more notable is hearing how promptly they responded to the fork fiasco with a fix that they even tried to get to existing customers, not just future customers.

[@Blazinter]

Yeah. Usually one would expect to just change future productions (or not even that at all depending of your optimism levels) and that's it. But then getting to the ones who already got the flawed version? That's going the extra mile. They absolutely deserve every penny they get and more.

[@briantimms6528]

honesty and customer service are HUGE positive points for any company, spending that little extra to care for someone who has bought one, not just the future buyers. Massive win!

[@BirnieMac1]

It’s nice seeing companies that care about not only their product but their customers too Like they’ve got their money they could have just ignored the people who had the at risk ones, but did the right thing and went out of their way to remedy that too With how promptly they did it too is just beautiful

[@Lew114]

Good point. It’s great to see a company take responsibility for their products.

[@darkjanggo]

VaultTek is a cool company. I wonder what they'll be doing in, say, 2077

[@KvotheTheBroken]

Props to Vaultek for responding correctly, rare these days. Thanks LPL for highlighting when a company takes the right steps.

[@scottmccloud9029]

Well said.

[@moteroargentino7944]

Yeah, instead of playing deaf or offended, they should be grateful that he's doing research for them for free.

[@WolfFenrirHelix]

I think it's only PacLock, Sterling, and Vaultek have looked at LPL's videos and gone "Okay, we made this mistake here, let's fix it to prevent it being as problematic as before." Masterlock are content to just make the same flaws over and over and over, and the cheap locks that don't have any security are just embarrassments.

[@BytebroUK]

Huge applause for this! If someone gets a defeat and then does their best to fix that defeat, then they are paying attention. Unlike MasterLock who appear not really to give a damn as long as you keep buying their crappy locks.. Just my own opinions, of course, so don't sue me.

[@chspyderr]

Hold the applause to see if others receive the fix or only the ones with a big voice on YT.

[@NJ-Cathie]

Dear Lock Picking Lawyer: Thank you for reviewing this safe. I just got this for my son at college. He takes meds that are very attractive to steal. His feedback on the safe: (1) It is very heavy and the metal is not bendable with a fork. (2) There is an app that he downloaded to his phone that will alert if anyone is tampering with the box. (3) It has multiple ways to open (key/code) for backup. Finally & probably most important it cannot be opened with a fork which are widely available on college campuses. Thank you for reviewing this safe. It is an excellent addition for his college dorm. Best - One happy Mama

[@-aku2805]

Kind of a weird application to have this for meds, but understandable. What does he have? ADHD?

[@NJ-Cathie]

@@-aku2805 yup. Son was impressed with this model after we had the safe that a fork was the back up entry device.

[@fallongarens6734]

@@NJ-Cathie Ahhh good on you for getting that safe. ADHD stimulants are powerful things. Good job, ma'am.

[@rabbidcow2135]

If he's on stims make sure he takes plenty of magnesium. I aced college and done well but my bones break easily now. Ruptured 3 vertebrae and damaged my spinal cord. Disabled at 40. My neurologist said magnesium deficiency from meds played a large part.

[@starg09]

Ahh so that's what the bluetooth sticker was for, notifications for tampering. That sounds pretty nice, was a bit more pesimist and thought it might be a BT-based unlock mechanism.

[@courtneybermack]

Vaultek Staff: LPL is reviewing us again! All crowd anxiously around the monitor A small cheer goes up when LPL says they dealt with the last one well, but the tension remains... At the end of the video, people are crying and hugging and management sends everyone home early

[@brucenolin6726]

Time to buy stock in this company!

[@fstorm001]

"You get a bonus, you get a bonus, everyone gets a bonus!!"

[@dmwi1549]

And Valentine’s Day is hereby reinstated at VT!

[@davidioanhedges]

Properly built without cheap materials, backup lock is a 9 disc detainer, electronic lock is secure .... better than most is high praise indeed

[@kenbrown2808]

"they saw my report on the flaw and let me know they fixed it" is also high praise.

[@JonVonBasslake]

Yeah, no bypasses, made from good materials, the backup lock being a disc detainer is a huge plus as it takes special tools to even pick and skill to do even relatively quickly. This thing may actually be worth the price. Depends on how many digits the code can be, since that can be brute forced quite fast with just five digits. Five to the power of five (assuming five digits long code) is only 3125 options. If we say that entering the code and the lock resetting takes 5 seconds, that leaves us with 625 seconds to try each combination, so a bit over ten minutes. But still, most curious adolescents would probably give up after trying the more obvious answers, at least if the parents are home.

[@lightweight1974]

@@JonVonBasslake Not sure about this one, but some e-locks will go non-functional for 10 minutes or so if too many failed attempts. This would make brute force take quite a bit longer.

[@JonVonBasslake]

@@lightweight1974 Well, that sleep mode would probably help deter a curious adolescent quite well.

[@deano9018]

@@JonVonBasslake out of curiosity checked the manual it says up to 8 digits so 5^8 = 390,625 possible combinations pretty decent.

[@spasecookee]

This gun safe has earned the highly coveted "very reasonable choice" award from LPL.

[@MrHobj34]

ummm no crap, thanks for letting all the other reterds knows

[@reallyniock]

I've learned through hundreds of hours of Fallout that Vault-Tec is not to be trusted.

[@kharthicthiagarajah3500]

What experiment do you think this is

[@mexican6925]

agreed

[@drkcobra]

Could you elaborate?

[@reallyniock]

@@drkcobra it's a video game reference to a corrupt company that is phonetically coincidental to the name of this safe manufacturer. Just a low hanging fruit joke.

[@firstsurvivor7600]

@@drkcobra Vault-Tec is a fictional business in the Fallout universe of video games that used nuclear shelters as ways to create social experiments on humans. Those experiments are often cruel and deadly.

[@User_Un_Friendly]

Of course Vaultek products offer a reasonable level of safety. In the Wasteland, they’re used to secure Plasma and Laser pistols after all. Will you cover the model that can be unlocked by inputting the code into your Pip-Boy? 🤓

[@isidzukuri]

Yes, is has Bluetooth connectivity

[@mouseblackcat5263]

I am disappointed in the utter lack of Bobbypins and Bottlecaps in this Video. O.o

[@skinwalker69420]

And in Fallout 1 and 2, you could blow it open if your explosives skill was high enough. That's why you should put points into explosives, instead of lockpick.

[@falkenvir]

dude...

[@mercury5003]

@@skinwalker69420 I would love to see lpl try to open a lock with explosives

[@arieljuod]

I can imagine the packaging on the next batch of safes by this company, with a big "Better Than Most, a very reasonable choice ~ The Lock Picking Lawyer" quote in the front to show how good it is

[@JS-rv3et]

it would be a massive oversight to miss that opportunity to add such a huge selling point.

[@henrydutoit2091]

If I saw that I would first make sure on LPL’s channel so hopefully they put the episode number with, but then buy it ASAP

[@xbeaker]

"Better than most" doesn't hold much water when 'most' gun safes LPL finds he opens with random debris he finds in his garbage. This is is Fort Knox compared to most gun safes.

[@MetalRenard]

'fork Knox'

[@Jack63141]

Big time LOL!! Debris found is his garbage -- great comment.

[@klchu]

For those who say "LPL is just helping thieves" this is the counter example. Vaultek made their product better and hopefully people who buy this product are safer, as are their families.

[@mwperk02]

If anything lol informs consumers on what kinds of garbage products to avoid. Like all of masterlock. While periodically some companies take notice of such easily exploitable vulnerabilities and fix them. He further shows high quality products that can resist most picking attempts and/or have good defenses against destructive attacks for the price point.

[@ruffrider2626]

Who says that?

[@Rhoasckm]

@@ruffrider2626 It's a surprisingly common mindset amongst general people that if you study/teach lockpicking for anything other than locksmithing reasons, you must do it for nefarious reasons. I used to work with a guy who, in my eyes, was about as skilled as LPL. He didn't do it for a career, he just liked having it as a useful skill and a way to be more informed about security, but because of that he would frequently get flak from friends and family about it. Sometimes jokingly, but far too many times they were genuinely concerned.

[@ruffrider2626]

@@Rhoasckm Interesting. I never thought the solution to faulty security was to stick ones head in the sand and hope everyone else did too. I guess I pay those types of people no mind as they have absolutely no idea what they're going on about, therefore my bias never sees them. Keep it up LPL! Cheers.

[@Superterrestrial]

Tbh destructive entry is the obvious and preferred method of thieves

[@ogranesson]

We haven't seen the pick that BosnianBill and he made for so long that even he stuttered while saying the iconic line :'(

[@nooboftheyear7170]

I think he more choked up with memories of working with Bill

[@svensorensen7693]

Good on Vaultek for not only making a quality safe, but correcting an exploit for *current* customers! Maybe I'll check out their underground shelters I've heard so much about.

[@PanduPoluan]

I think you have in mind a different company 🤣

[@richardlair6981]

@@PanduPoluan no its for sure vault tech.

[@greenking7390]

Good reference lol.

[@Josh_D78]

that reference gave me a good laugh :-)

[@zextra]

Great reference!!! 😂😂😂

[@RD-170]

Imagine when you open it it just goes: ”Have a very safe day, and thank you for choosing Vault-Tec”

[@themadsuika3909]

Vault Tek, prepared for the future

[@manfredrichtoften8848]

I'm just waiting for a company called West tek and I'll know we live in a parallel reality.

[@aboriani]

I read that in the train lady's voice from Half-Life intro

[@mandowarrior123]

Tempting to put dry ice in there

[@EmperorSigismund]

The perfect message to receive when you reach for your handgun.

[@gigachad7153]

Why did I get so many likes?

[@ZNotFound]

The things is... It was their previous product that got opened by kitchen cutlery.

[@boymahina123]

@@ZNotFound And unlike other gun safes that also have kitchen cutlery (or even easier) vulnerabilities, they patched said vulnerability.

[@ben_1]

"... anymore"

[@jdfmovil]

Now with fork bypassing resistance.

[@gunner4544]

Fork you evil doers lol

[@eliyahukuperman9250]

"Hey boss, the LockPickingLawyer has made a video about us!" "Oh no, prepare to bankrupt" "But boss, he said our gun safe is better than most!" "Prepare to be rich then!"

[@mhfuzzball]

Considering their response the last time he did a video on their products, the second line would probably be, "Oh hell, what do we have to fix now?"

[@ShadowDragon8685]

@@mhfuzzball Which is lightyears better than MasterLock's response of _shrug_ If there's a problem with their product, then fixing that problem is important. They not only fixed it for future products, they also tried to make it right for existing owners too. Frankly, that says something good about their company.

[@davidp2888]

“Better than most” and “going to use a device that Bosnian Bill and I made”…two signs of a decent lock.

[@mackmcmillan9905]

"the pick that Bosnian Bill and I made.." YES, I love that line and I really love that tool. Engineering and proper execution all in one well thought out instrument. How can one NOT like this channel!?!

[@radamanthys0223]

"the pick that Bosnian Bill and I made.." always gets me Here's hoping Bill is good and enjoying time with his family

[@LKLM138]

Made me clap to my PC alone in my apartment.

[@mackmcmillan9905]

@@radamanthys0223 Here, here!

[@mackmcmillan9905]

@@LKLM138 Nice!

[@alekmoth]

How is the tool compatible with his idea of a curious teenager? They won’t have the tool even if they have pick knowledge from internet. He should do these tests with more available tools

[@Deepwaterjew]

I can respect a company that made a patch on their design flaw, then sent it out to the owners of the product. It actually seems like a fairly good product, being backed by a great company.

[@Art1stical]

I have the impression that LPL was going to say "disc detainer lockpick" or something, but he remembered and quickly said "the pick Bosnian Bill and I made", much to the audience's joy :D Also, props to Vaultek for their desire to improve. I doubt I would ever need one of their products, but if ever, they will be top of my mind :D

[@Plakue1]

I think he said disc detainer lockpick while filming but noticed it while editing and changed it to the pick bosnian bill and I made because he knows everyone loves when he says that :D

[@1TN1]

@@Plakue1 He is contractually obligated to say "the pick Bosnian Bill and I made" every time he uses it.

[@MrRowskey]

A rare error that proves he is not as mechanical as the locks he picks ... though we have vastly more evidence to suggest he was in fact manufactured for perfection.

[@deanwoodward8026]

You may never own a handgun, but I could easily see putting a cheap handgun safe next to my bed as a honeypot for burglars- that is, put an alarm switch in it so if it opens with the alarm armed it trips a panic alarm immediately.

[@EllySensei]

When LPL says it's better than most in the title. You know it's a good lock.

[@MaskOfCinder]

And you also know LPL can still defeat the lock pretty easily.

[@Autoskip]

@@MaskOfCinder Well, duh - the only reason that locks don't open when he enters the room is that the locks know he doesn't like a free lunch. Masterlock doesn't always get that memo though.

[@mordret103]

@@MaskOfCinder He has specialized tools, lots of experience with said tools and probably picked the lock before, so oc it's quick

[@jayspeidell]

It doesn't mean a lot when the competition can be opened by toddlers. The bar is reeeeealy low for gun safes.

[@startedtech]

Wow, it being Vault-Tec I'm surprised you couldn't pick it with a flathead screwdriver and bobby pin!

[@deciplesteve]

Came for the Fallout jokes, thanks.

[@skinwalker69420]

kek

[@GemmaLB]

@@deciplesteve Same

[@JS-rv3et]

i was gonna say yeah because they actually improved the thing then saw the fall out comment and was like oh yeah that lol

[@Not_Skynet2044]

VaultTec, prepared for the future

[@TheTheJimJim]

In 50 years Vaultek will have slightly changed their name and will be building fallout shelters.

[@Manny.93]

Vault-Tec seems to always be doing good stuff in Fallout so this lock should be excellent.. 🙃

[@mouseblackcat5263]

But what level of Lock is this and How Many Bottlecaps come in the Box? O.o

[@Manny.93]

@@mouseblackcat5263 Most likely advance lock and 100 caps😝

[@mouseblackcat5263]

@@Manny.93 Thats an aweful lot of Caps. O.o Usually its less than a dozen. Im betting its a... Master Lock though. :P

[@georgejones5019]

@@mouseblackcat5263 You need to put more points into luck.

[@WESELY_CARTIER]

I was just about to say that same thing

[@ryanjackson401]

1-2-3-4-5? That’s amazing. I’ve got the same combination on my luggage!

[@ogranesson]

Vaultek stocks are going to go off the roof now, props to them.

[@eliyahukuperman9250]

Well, if some company actually cares about their costumers and actually does things to satisfy them then they deserve every bit of the success they will have.

[@BlazeMakesGames]

They should upgrade to making nuclear bunkers

[@MaksKCS]

they don't trade in stocks

[@НиколайДемидов-ь8ж]

Just a few steps away from changing name to Vault-Tec

[@Mammolytic]

@@MaksKCS It's called a joke.

[@Dhalin]

I like how he points out that no handgun safe is going to resist much of any destructive attacks. That's just unreasonable to expect a portable handgun box to resist, say, an angle grinder. But yet a lot of people go "pfft I could just cut it open". That's _missing the point entirely_ to be honest. Here we have a product that is reasonably difficult to pick open, as LPL correctly states, requires specialized tools and the knowledge of what you need to pick it open as well as the skills to actually do so, and there's no cheap and easy ways to stuff a bit of thin metal in-between the seam to pop something inside of it, nor can you just simply use a magnet to engage some mechanism inside of the box. A competent product, a little pricey, but is $230 worth more than someone's life? Absolutely not.

[@its_clean]

Depends who the someone is. Personally I think I'm worth about $1.75 and a handful of sunflower seeds, so $230 would be a princely sum to invest in my longevity 🤠

[@sirjmo]

@@its_clean it's not about your value, it's about how you value friends and family finding this product. There's many ways to hide/secure a gun, this seems like a good option.

[@stuartd9741]

You also have to look at the opportunistic scenario when locking up a gun. If this lock safe prevents a child from picking up a non secured handgun potentially causing an injury then in that respect it will suffice..

[@Pandemonis]

Guns are not safe, even in a vault. (And I think if a magnet would do it, LPL would have shown the flaw. Im curious about the battery resetting the code though, and 5 digits is just 5! so 120 tries to brute force, three minutes at most)

[@justincase7471]

@@Pandemonis It's 5*4*3*2*1 which is 120 if you can only use each digit once but it's 5*5*5*5*5 which is 3125 combinations if you can use the same digit more than once.

[@spudhead169]

Vaultek CEO: I heard our new gun safe can be picked open in about a minute? Vaultek PR: Yeah, we're all celebrating, come on down and join us. Vaultek CEO: Why would you celebrate this? It's terrible news. Vaultek PR: It took a minute for the LockPickingLawyer to pick it open, with specialized tools. Vaultek CEO: OH! I'm on my way.

[@epicfiredragon0819]

For once he only has compliments for safe and lock, that is unique. Good job Vaultek

[@ericclaptonsrobotpilot7276]

You just helped them to not only sell more safes, but to possibly prevent a tragic accident involving a child. Bravo LPL!

[@Dyanosis]

Adolescent != child. Could mean Teen. Young Adult. Any person with a younger than average mindset.

[@figmentincubator7980]

@@Dyanosis This distinction makes no difference whatsoever in the meaning of the comment lmao, why bother correcting it? Plus, child technically means

[@unnamed715]

@@figmentincubator7980 Everyone on the internet thinks they're a college professor 😂

[@CeRz]

@@unnamed715 Eh, let them, maybe they suffer from mental problems. This has no impact on the real world nonetheless. People have to learn being critical towards information these days anyways.

[@UnknownOverLand]

If I were Vaultek, every box would say "This is a reasonable choice - LockPickingLawyer".

[@markjohnson5847]

😂😅

[@C31c10n3]

tbf - that slogan only works for ppl that have a clue about who lpl is. Everyone else would understand it as a negative statement.

[@ShadowDragon8685]

That would not pass legal. "Requires purpose-built tools and a special set of skills to pick" probably would.

[@vast634]

"stops a normal curious adolescent"

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

​@@ShadowDragon8685I dunno. Sounds to me very much like "probably the best bet in the world", as "reasonable" is subjective and unquantifiable. Would require clearing it with LPL though. Anyways since he's apparently a lawyer himself, he might consider rubbing an endorsement deal.

[@HSishi]

Two big compliments - I guess Vaultec's staff got a day off now

[@SkylosSobaka]

Naw. Now they have a million orders to fill.

[@TheRealFumigator]

Chinese laborers don't get days off.

[@KaitouKaiju]

They removed the suicide net for an hour

[@recklessroges]

Vaultek at the start of the video: sweating "oh no, he's back." Vaultek at the end: massive relief, "he even said something nice about us!" feels good man.

[@DarkOmegaMK2]

Props to Vaultek for preparing us for the future!

[@singularkakapo]

Enjoy your return to the surface, and thank you for choosing Vaultek.

[@memphispatriot]

@@singularkakapo Something I dont know? :|

[@royalcrown7180]

@@memphispatriot fallout reference.

[@roelbrook7559]

"Better than most" from LPL is a real big compliment for any lock maker.

[@Simon-ui6db]

So Vaultek took it on the chin, went away and fixed it. Now thats a company what wants a good name for their brand. Kudos to them.

[@IrishCowboy8705]

Maybe masterlock should do the same 🤣

[@darrennew8211]

*And* they retroactively went back and fixed all the older safes they already sold, which is automotive-recall levels of care. (Probably made easier by it being a software update, but still...)

[@biggusmunkusthegreat]

As a security professional hearing about their immediate response to your previous video put a smile on my face. Good on Vaultek.

[@kablooey2369]

Here at Vault-Tec, your safety is our number one priority.

[@troyclayton]

A 'curious' adolescent can do more than any home invader. I just 'borrowed' my father's key for a short period and filed another to match it so I could access to his 8 mm films back in the early '80s. I'd like to call them educational films, as I learned a lot. edit: The guns were never locked, only the porn. What a strange world. But, we didn't go around shooting up public places much back then either.

[@lsswappedcessna]

Wait, who records porn on 8mm? I get it was the 80's, but it's hard to beat your meat unnoticed with that projector sounding like a Chevy G30 van with 350k miles and barely any oil pressure.

[@troyclayton]

@@lsswappedcessna It was all on 8mm/super 8. It used to be the only way to watch something on demand was on film. We had projectors my entire life, but didn't get a VCR until the early 80's. Many people had their own video cameras, we did. Noisy projectors were a part of life.

[@lsswappedcessna]

@@troyclayton Yeah, I have an old super 8 projector and some developed film (not porn, though). It's unusually high quality for being almost 40 years old! I was making a joke about the stereotypical "sneaking to watch porn" thing though, your dad would've known, at least you'd think, when he heard the geneva mechanism in that projector clicketyclacking away that you were up to no good!

[@troyclayton]

@@lsswappedcessna lol. Mostly he had magazines, we could never have run the projector while he was home without him sticking his head in. I guess I mentioned the films just for reactions like you made. Thanks!

[@the_guy_that_asked]

,,better than most" Holy shit lpl compliment a safe, that stuff must be a Mythical artifact or something

[@Madlintelf]

Have to hand it to LPL, when a company does the right thing he does the same and gives them praise when it's due. At least this company addressed it's flaws, and improved it's product, well done!

[@andrewalegnani3423]

I love the Genuine response and shows the company owner(s)’ true care for their product and clients/customers! A rare breed it seems; thank you LPL!!! I love your videos, and have for years!!! Maybe another video with DeviantOlam Soon??? 😁🙌🏻👍🏻

[@tihspidtherekciltilc5469]

"Customer service" like the service this company displayed when they weren't even contacted is why I'm willing to pay more for a product even if it's exactly the same as sold by someone else at a reduced price. Walmart of all places went above and beyond within a minute of me hitting "send message" yesterday for some deliveries with both missing and damaged parts I had ordered online. No, I'm not paid and wouldn't write this if it was just a one time thing or "fluke" if you will as this is the third time in three months they have surprised me with excellent customer service with a quick solution. It's a shame more companies based on security don't reach out to the LPL so it's definitely worth remembering the ones that do.

[@phuchu]

They should make a firearm lockbox that sends a message to a designated phone if it's interacted with in any way. That way the owner could be notified even if they aren't at home.

[@saseals]

They have one. If someone tries to use the fingerprint reader, enters a wrong code, or bumps it too hard, it sends an alert to the app on the owner's phone. It works very well.

[@saseals]

I have one of their lockboxes. If someone tries to use the fingerprint reader, enters a wrong code, or bumps it too hard, it sends an alert to the app on my phone. It works very well. The quality of the lockbox seems to be above most others I have found.

[@lairdcummings9092]

"Disk Detainer Design" You can almost hear the dramatic 'Dun Dun Dun!' music.

[@markjohnson5847]

🤣😂

[@moteroargentino7944]

"Better than most" is the same in the LPL channel as to being "average" in the special forces. If you made it that far you're already the cream of the cream.

[@Dyanosis]

I hope you meant "cream of the crop" as "cream of the cream" doesn't mean anything.

[@174wolf]

@@Dyanosis "Crème de la crème" is a pretty common, though seldom translated idiom.

[@moteroargentino7944]

@@Dyanosis Like @asdf918 said, it's the translation from the french quote. Its another way to say "the best of the best".

[@Stonka1]

The pick that Bosnian bill and I made finally makes its return 😄🙌

[@sw1mm3rBooiii]

which kind of gun safe do you use. We're learning a lot about what not to use but can you do a video on gun safes and things that you would recommend?

[@artistwithouttalent]

"Let's see what it takes to pick this open." > Sees that there are still more than two minutes in the video _Hello..._ And yes, I know LPL will probably also try the electric lock, but that's still impressive.

[@codynate4522]

Appreciate this video. I've been on the lookout for a night stand gun safe because I have an almost 2 year old. I will be getting this one now, I know if you say it's worthy, then it must be good.

[@marvindebot3264]

Just remember, they will stop your kids but they won't stop a thief or at least not for very long.

[@Mandolatron]

@@marvindebot3264 are Americans always in Jeopardy of about to be home robbed?

[@celozzip]

surely its easier to teach the kid not to bother you during the night.

[@Mrhalligan39]

@@celozzip LOL you must not have dealt with many two years olds! 😁

[@phionella7]

@@Mrhalligan39 right, lol

[@fredbloggs5902]

‘The Curious Adolescent’... ...non destructive but persistent 🤣 I was one of those once (some 40 years ago). I found a combination bike lock lying in the street. Knowing nothing about locks I just worked through every combination, took me about a week.

[@Dhalin]

Yeah, I think the next thing Vaultek needs to do is implement a # of password fails feature if it does not already have one. Like, if you fail the code 5 times in a row, it sets off the beeping until the real code is entered. That way, if Jimmy tries to open it by brute forcing the code, his parents will know about it unless he gets insanely lucky and guesses it within 5 tries.

[@norwegiangadgetman]

@@Dhalin He could try one or two codes each day that the parent takes the gun to the range because a successful opening will clear the counter. But yeah, that will take some time. And if the parents guess, and reset the code, it could take even longer.

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@norwegiangadgetman , The code should be changed on a regular basis...

[@marvindebot3264]

Holy crap, a pistol safe that is actually safe, I'm in shock.

[@TobyCatVA]

I keep weed in mine. 😻

[@EGarrett01]

2:00 That curious adolescent who understands the weaknesses of disc detainer cores and has a handmade set of lockpicking tools.

[@curlyvideos]

Could the alarm be circumvented? -Draining the rechargeable battery somewhow? -If the alarm's triggered by releasing a button normally pressed by the door/latch, then maybe that button could be held down with a probe? BTW the companion app offers alerts and history logs

[@X1ongu]

Finally, the pick that Bosnian Bill and I made has returned. It's been so long, the words send shivers down my spine. Actual ASMR.

[@frgeoffhorton]

I shouted “Yes!” with a fist-pump.

[@peterkelley6344]

Has anyone heard how Bosnian Bill is doing recently???

[@dorklyasmr6017]

Those new to the lock picking lawyer's site need to know what he says about this device and the vaultech company in general is SUPER HIGH praise from him.

[@SamuelElPesado]

where do i plug in my pip-boy?

[@N8SANZ]

I really love when companies actually heard to those who deeply know what they say. The reaction and response to the flaw detected by LPL was, IMO, the perfect one: contact LPL, fix the flaw in next version, release a fixing kit for those clients who already own one. Just the way that things should be fixed when someone screws it up. I hope every company would react this admirable (and also the smartest) way. Well done, LPL, and very good job of those at VaulTek, congrats to everyone.

[@78Mathius]

I think curious child is exactly the right threat model. The tamper alarm is nice feature. No exploits. My only issue is the low number of combinations. You could try them all in under an hour. If the safe has 30 to 90 sec cool down after 3 failed attempts, that will make guessing impossible. Better yet, have the tamper alarm go off after 3 fails. Those might be included.

[@simpleman806]

Nice to see a lock company take the necessary measures to fix a defective product

[@bcramer0515]

Vaultek should consider this a win 🏆

[@danieletrabalza5943]

It has Bluetooth connection, I wonder if that can remotely open the lock. If that’s the case there might be security issues there as well

[@theeternalsw0rd]

Not via the app, but they do have a key fob. They have also made it possible to turn the bluetooth feature off entirely, which they should be given credit for as well.

[@oxymoron02]

It can 100% be opened remotely by even a rudimentary sniffing attack; same technique used by some advanced/"professional" modern car thieves. It's the reason why, if you have one of those cars where the key doesn't have to be in the ignition to start the car, you should NEVER keep the fob on the same side of the house as the car overnight, or when you're not going to be using it. Either keep it on the opposite side of the house, or store it in a shielded container.

[@lsswappedcessna]

@@oxymoron02 The microwave oven is a good hiding spot, given you remember to remove your car keys before using it in the morning. Since anything conductive will turn into a bomb when microwaved. That's why the cooking chamber is a Faraday shield. They'd end up frying their own electronics if they weren't behind a steel plate.

[@securi-t]

Dude, huge respect for showing quality products on your channel. And kudos to Vaultek for updating their product based on industry professional feedback!

[@redwater1995]

Seems like a good lock to me. Though my main concern for locks or codes I dont want my family or people I know to get into is them learning the code or swiping the key. As a cheeky little youth I recall breaking into these numpads all the time simply be either guessing the code (most people use the same codes so if you learn one you learn em all), watching for when the code gets punched in and then using it later, or even looking at marks on the numbers to see which are pressed and narrow it down from there through deduction. I did all 3 of these under the age of 10 (though not to a gun safe) so its something to keep in mind.

[@ProfLuisHerrera]

When a disk detainer lock appears and all we know what line comes next!

[@pie4dessert]

LPL: "well it could probably keep a child out" Translation: Literally Fort Knox

[@Mario_bland]

Thank god for vault tek! I hope to get a fallout shelter from them soon!

[@Mr_Reset]

This should get a ‘Reasonable Choice’ - LPL sticker when sold. Surely sell more than the competitors

[@OGSontar]

A serious kudos for the manufacturer. I'll bet the champagne party is going to last for days. With this level of defense, I'll be giving this product some deep consideration, far more than the other gun safes I've seen LPL test. Good job, Vaultek.

[@ernestogarcia2393]

LPL: Today we're going to see if we can't pick open this solid lead cube. "2 is binding, click out of 2"

[@edwardstarrett5545]

Jesus, there's a massive run on these going on I'd imagine. That's some high praise from LPL! Way to go Vaultec!

[@gergelyvarju6679]

We can expect around 500.000 views in short term, with people coming back because of comments, it can be around 300k to 400k people reached. 150k to 200k from lands where gun safes are common, around 75k to 100k from households with guns maybe... around 25k to maybe 40k makes decisions about purchasing safes (others are either teens, kids or their partners buy these things, etc), most of them already have gun safes or better storage for their handguns, so around maybe less than 5k plan viewers plan to buy a gun safe in next 12 months... So that massive run is unlikely. But people who search for videos and reviews about their products might encounter this video later, they will create a bit more views, but while those views are maybe tens of thousands people in the long run, they actually represent people who check various options and will buy gun safes. Some of the videos might get linked from store pages, etc... and these reviews will translate to sales at that time.

[@jpendowski7503]

Thanks for a review that has meaning. A curious adolescent is a reasonable home metric. A thief may just take it safe & all.

[@Guderian2]

Mad respect to vaultek. If only certain other companies would learn from this. Like a certain company starting with an M

[@NIronwolf]

I think "this might be a reasonable choice" is the most praise I've ever heard LPL give.

[@FirstLast-gw5mg]

Not only does the mechanical backup require special tools and training to pick open, but the software detecting and logging the use of the mechanical override with apparently no way to circumvent this? Sounds about as secure as you can possibly get without investing significantly to harden it against physically destructive attacks.

[@darrennew8211]

The only better I've seen are locks where there's *only* the combination lock, no backup lock, and the battery is on the outside of the box. Check out some of the Bosnian Bill lockbox reviews to see some he approved of.

[@captainsinclair7954]

Vaultek passes the Lawyer's test with flying colors! It feels so good when companies fix their mistakes and change their designs for better protection from curious adolescents or actual thieves.

[@RhinoBarbarian]

And here I thought this video was somehow going to be about a gun from 'Borderlands.' Oh, well. This is cool too.

[@sharkcookie.YouTube]

I couldn't find the tool you used here on your website. Is it for same?

[@ericvaninwegen6384]

I love how, no matter how good LPL is at the LP, he's still an L. The conclusion at the end is perfectly qualified, summarizes his findings succinctly, but is still a qualified approval. Perfect LPL conclusion!

[@Meczyk]

And that's why I love LPL - absolute honesty and transparency. He is not trying to kick anyone, just deliver a brutally honest review of a product, giving credit where credit's due.

[@jasonkeith2832]

He does kick, but only masterlock.

[@Meczyk]

@@jasonkeith2832 Not really. I think that that company has done a lot to earn such reputation.

[@jasonkeith2832]

@@Meczyk A kick is a kick, even if it is set up easier than a tee ball swing.

[@Osprey1994]

Good to know, I definitely think it's important to remember that if someone is willing and prepared to destroy a locking container that they can get into even those huge "safe" type comtainers which people store their guns in. Ideally I would want to figure put a place to put this that would make it difficult to find or destroy if it's in a vehicle and as for home this is a nice way of making sure there's an extra barrier between a gun and a child.

[@acardboardbox3610]

I've played enough fallout to know that vault tec can lock things up reasonably well

[@Sef_Era]

Well that’s surprising- I don’t hear “this could be a reasonable choice” that often, from LPL. If I ever own a gun small enough to fit in that, and I don’t just store it in the big safe with the two guns I currently own, I’ll consider getting this to use there.

[@dylr6752]

Vaultek Calling!

[@field-9897]

you know the lock is good if his video is longer then 2 minutes

[@12stepsbeyondtheeventhorizon]

Vaultek seems like they respect their business and clients, props to them. They must be on cloud 9 from the praise LPL gives them here.

[@chadnelson2937]

LPL’s house is the most dangerous for “curious adolescents” cause they got all the tools they need to get into things they shouldn’t

[@rimfire2642]

Great video. LPL is a brilliant lock picker and probably as good of a lawyer. Before I clicked the video, I was nearly certain LPL would once again be able to pick whatever locking mechanism. I just had that feeling. Unfortunately, my 2 yo has one of these disk detainer picking tools (I've taken 3 away from him...I don't know where he keeps getting them...I think it's his grandpa but he denies it). So I wonder what it means that yes a criminal who found this safe would probably be able to get into with a screw driver destructively, I have to wonder through about those with extremely curious toddlers (or even teens) that don't have disk detainer tools (damn grandpas) HOW would this really stand up to a very curious teen, who was "clever", and didn't have a disk detainer tool?

[@noooo8669]

I can't help but imagine a Vaulttek executive member getting a call from PR and an enthusiastic conversation involving "LPL" and "with a fork!" on that day.

[@N0rmandy]

You know it's a good lock when it takes LPL a minute to crack it

[@angelabillmeyer7018]

I would love a series of "this is what I currently Recommend" for gun locks.

[@stephenlucerne1052]

it would be a very short series lol

[@madbradfreeman]

You just saw it!

[@SteelSkin667]

Per the channel description : "Please note that I do not recommend locks, nor do I provide assistance in opening them." That's why it didn't happen for other types of lock-based products either.

[@JamieStuff]

Remember, he is a lawyer. A recommendation has legal ramifications that he is avoiding. That said, once you watch a few of his videos (and read the comments), you'll be able to determine if it's worth using or not. The closest thing to a recommendation I've heard him say is "This is a lock that I would use".

[@darrennew8211]

Bosnian Bill's channel actually has a few.

[@SebiTheFox]

Vaultek ?! Damn... Patrolling the Mojave Almost Makes You Wish For a Nuclear Winter.

[@leyenda6149]

I can buy online, buti usually like to examine stuff like this at a brick & mortar store. Cabela's/Bass Pro Shop doesn't carry these. Who does? Also, trying to determine if different sizes & model numbers of the Vaultek VS20 get the thumbs up from our dear LPL. Thanks y'all!

[@S0ulGh0st]

It's amazing how LPL videos can be wholesome in such technical ways.