[1482] The Most Weather Resistant Padlock Ever Made - S&G Environmental

[@kitsuneneko2567]

Railroads are generally more interested in quick access than secure access. Since all their stuff is out there, often in remote areas, people would have as much time as they need to pick or even grind off, so higher pick resistance gets them nothing. However, being able to give the same key to all the locks is of great value to them, so their conductors and engineers don't have to carry around a huge, heavy ring.

[@bradley3549]

I agree 100% and in addition, that style key is incredibly durable and can apply a lot of torque to the mechanism if/when it becomes cruddy.

[@robertcalkjr.8325]

Locks are just to keep honest people, honest. Is there a lock that could survive a cutting torch?

[@Tyiriel]

@@robertcalkjr.8325 I'm sure we could make something big enough..

[@soulbound11]

I think there is also a lot to be said for the deterrence of just having a lock on something, whether that lock is good or not. I know as a kid i would wander into places that werent locked, but almost never even checked locks to see if there were actually engaged to get into places that looked locked up. Sure, almost anyone with a little know how can pick it and get in, but you are still preventing 90% + of the public who was just never interested in picking up that know how. Sometimes, thats good enough.

[@kenabi]

@@robertcalkjr.8325 with the advent of cordless angle grinders that are as powerful as they are now, one of those and a few batteries and you can get into anything if you're not having to worry about getting caught in a few seconds, no torch needed.

[@billstrader4326]

Old flex: I can pick this in moments using the pick that Bosnian Bill and I made New flex: I can pick this with the tool you can get at Covert Instruments Newest flex: I already had a key for this lock because of course I did.

[@domchappell4775]

Yet possibly the most on-brand flex to date

[@ipick4fun27]

The pick that Bill and I made can’t open this lock. It’s original style Abloy Keyway. You can probably use a standard hook if you are skillful enough. But a Silver Bullet with a custom tip can pick it.

[@NEEDbacon]

"Both homemade and from factory"

[@xaosflux]

...because I have ALL the keys

[@barryabell5410]

It's downright disrespectful and theft of another man's property as its possibly a rare find in the wild 😡😡

[@raidensnake9471016]

Chris in Florida after seeing the lock not getting picked and gutted: "My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined".

[@msnpassjan2004]

Wonder if he lives near Report of the Week food reviews with Review Brah

[@MegawackyMax]

If it was me, the plot twist that A) the lock only has a very finite number of potential keys; and B) of course LPL has them all; would have been a most wonderful plot twist. BECAUSE IT WAS.

[@samv225]

So why didn't he gut it? If all it took was a simple drilling. And even though he had a key seems like he could have picked it as well. Why go out of your way to ruin a fans day?

[@puphafishprime]

@@samv225 the drilling itself would have been simple, but then the lock is no longer functional. It could have been picked though, even with the master key at hand.

[@samv225]

@@puphafishprime My point exactly, all simple stuff requested by the fan that took the time (and expense) to send in the lock.

[@kainthedestroyer]

This is definitely an example of a lock being used as more of a latch than a security device. It's just there so that whoever bypasses it has to do so deliberately and knowingly, and often *at-their-own-risk.*

[@dmg4415]

As most locks is done, to hinder the opportunistic burglar who has only some rudimentary tools, a screwdriver and a small crowbar, the dedicated burglar You can not stop with locks, not alarms either, they set aside 2 to max 5 minutes in a home. Maybe a well trained guard dog will help. Or a armed guardian patrolling the house 24/7/365, they have a day of the 29th of February.

[@user-bc7cb8uu7e]

You'd be surprised how many people this would stop. The vast majority of people would never think about the idea of getting a set of keys for the locks. Just seeing a lock at all will turn most people away, unless they have a good pair of bolt cutters. Pick resistance matters a lot less than bolt cutter resistance in most cases. This lock would probably fall to a good pair a bolt cutters, but so would quite a few higher security locks

[@Itoyokofan]

You know, if you wander into the limited area that was unlocked and got caught, you can bluff yourself out, saying that your head just went blank and you were curious. On the other hand, picking a lock no matter how shitty it is, is a guaranteed deliberate burglary.

[@TallifTallonbrook]

The shackle is so thick to prevent showing a switch while locked. It is the actual block for the lever.

[@dmg4415]

@@Itoyokofan And how do they prove it is picked and not just left open the last time it was opened?

[@LimDul]

Railway company employee here: There's another (quite obsolete but sometimes still encountered) use-case for those locks: railway switch safety (not security!). One thing that these locks do is retain the key in the open position. This means you can basically "remotely track" their state if you only have one key for them. Some manual switches are designed in such a way that you can close the lock on them only in a certain position since they have extended sleeves/projections with holes on the handles that need to align. Also, one key can be used for several switches (hence the limited number of combinations) but with only one copy of it being available you will only be able to change the position of one of them at a time. This avoids certain unsafe configurations of several switches that could lead to derailment or collisions. Also, a switch operator can go back to their station where all the keys hang on a "switchboard" and at a glance check which ones are missing and be 100% sure of the position of each switch and the overall configuration of the system. This is called key dependency - I only know it as "Schlüsselabhängigkeit" from my home country. :)

[@mackemforever]

Really interesting, thanks for taking the time to write it up. Also, what the hell Germany. Stop pretending your language is a real thing :P

[@hundejahre]

Seeing a key is missing off the board only guarantees 100% it is missing off the board. Maybe it’s in a lock on a switch, maybe it’s in someone’s pocket on the way to or back from a switch, and hopefully not in their laundry.

[@LimDul]

@@hundejahre You're not leaving the train station or whatever you're dealing with in this state between shifts etc. It's for setting up specific arrangements for moving a specific train from point A to B on a low intensity track. There is a base configuration of switches and for that all keys have to be present on the switchboard. You literally take the keys you need off the switchboard before heading out to flip the switches. I guess this is another use-case for this - preventing operator error since you leave with a specific set of keys fitting only specific switches. If a key is missing to begin with you have to go out and make sure the switch is in the right position OR, when in doubt, no trains will be allowed to pass until the situation is resolved. It's just a basic layer of safety so someone doesn't need to run up and down hundreds of meters of tracks to check all switches - humans and procedures are still involved. Trust me, the system worked for 100+ years, but it's very rarely used since there are other mechanical locks in place or everything has been electrified/digitized.

[@TheQuark6789]

This sounds similar or the same as LOTO locks in English-Lock Out, Tag Out

[@LimDul]

@@TheQuark6789 Yes! Exactly that!

[@marchofsaints]

LPL Fan: you can have this cool old lock if you pick it and gut it for me. LPL: Nope. But thanks for the lock, it matches my key.

[@marchofsaints]

@@Kevin-mp5of I wasn't saying that, lol.

[@DrLogii]

Did he just demonstrate how to lockpick with a key?

[@Boxygirl96]

Yeah, and not for the first time actually. He’s also demonstrated that the TSA locks are all susceptible to a similar exploit do to their rather common master keys

[@BFedie518]

​@@Boxygirl96 The master keys are so common you can literally buy them on Amazon.

[@Boxygirl96]

@@BFedie518 exactly!

[@ThePlacehole]

Also, handcuffs

[@spacemonkey1776]

@@BFedie518 F amazon

[@REZrblde]

But honestly,its been a while since we seen you gut a lock open. I love it when we get to see the internals,especially a dimple-core one

[@robertcalkjr.8325]

Too bad that Chris sent the LPL a lock that he would rather keep in his collection...lol

[@spicytrashpanda]

That is a new and unique kink.

[@youtubesnamingpolicysucks]

@@robertcalkjr.8325 I can get him another one that's a little beat up or even a brand new one same code if he wants to gut it. We have a ton of them laying around and they run about $200+ so it's understandable why he chose to save a brand new one.

[@robertcalkjr.8325]

@@youtubesnamingpolicysucks That might work.

[@wickedcabinboy]

@@youtubesnamingpolicysucks - So, that means you'd have to "borrow" the lock? The irony...

[@FuelDropforthewin]

I am guessing that the mechanism is deliberately kept simple to reduce points of failure in extreme conditions. Likely very loose tolerances for the same reasons.

[@Miestwin]

This, plus I think it's mostly to deter hobos or stragglers from the areas they are not supposed to be, rather than protect something valuable or supercritical.

[@michaelboehme7964]

Yeah, there's really no point in having an extremely high security lock where these are used, more likely to get messed up, and they're often deployed in areas where either noone will be around to complain if you go at it with an angle grinder or something anyway.

[@StarfoxHUN]

Also the key being so limited helps against key loss and with access sharing i guess.

[@robertcalkjr.8325]

@@Miestwin I agree. A lock is not going to stop a professional.

[@caseydarrah]

So the lock version of the AK47 or the Moisin-Nagant. Rough, sloppy tolerances, but works every time.

[@acidhelm]

LPL saying "I own all of the possible keys" is like how Adam Savage says "I bought two complete sets of these screwdrivers." I just expect it now.

[@gigimava]

*at least one sample of all the possible keys

[@MalleusSemperVictor]

He's using his powers to determine the locks people are going to send him and preemptively making keys now.

[@storm.57z23]

Kind of a railfan here, I have seen this lock in some stations, they usually lock up bridge plates or amtrak wheelchair accessible ramps. Pieces of infrastructure that are still needed but not so critical to the safety of passengers like locking up switch boxes

[@volvo09]

Do you know how they manage switch box keys? Does each railroad have their own lock and key choice? I have a switch next to my house and always assumed the keys were all the same.

[@christiangilbert5608]

I've seen this very lock used for a derailing device. Isn't that more critical?

[@doug3102]

@@christiangilbert5608 Critical switches and derails use time locking circuits in addition to the physical lock.

[@deathdealer_xiii1055]

@volvo09 Each railroad has their own key number, but locks and keys are made by sargent & greenleaf. The 2 lock companies I've seen railroads use in the present day are Sargent Greenleaf and American Lock. They use different locks for different things. I'm sure a railroad employee would correct me

[@dennisfernandez7336]

FEC seems to have recently changed from these to Abloy.

[@feronimus7723]

Do you have your collection in a displayable format? or just boxes? I would love to see it if its organized. Maybe a dedicated video?

[@ml9867]

I've been wanting to see that for years. I wonder if it's in a vault or just behind a regular door & what kind of lock is on the door.

[@Melanie16040]

I will second this!

[@svgalene465]

@@ml9867 It’s in a Walmart handgun safe and locked with a Masterlock #3 padlock.

[@sandwiched]

"I have the world's largest sand collection. I keep it on beaches across the planet."

[@GryphonBrokewing]

@@sandwiched Great reference! Do you also have a friend who can limbo under a carpet?

[@R.J._Lewis]

"This is the Key Having Lawyer, and what I have for you today is the equivalent of that yoked guy at your local gym who has a teacup yorkie."

[@AM23.]

The reason why the mechanism is simple is you have a fleet of workers that need to gain access to the lock, these fleets often travel and their point of contact person will tell them which key. Also 99% of the population sees a lock, especially a disk detainer, and would have no idea how to bypass it.

[@dr.floridamanphd]

I would bypass it by going right by past it 😂

[@Jomskylark]

Yup, what thief is going to have the patience and knowledge to make 12+ keys for this lock. I like LPL but this is a bit ridiculous of a reason to criticize its security.

[@Jehty_]

@@Jomskylark every thief who does thieving around railways. Or do you think that thieves who steal for example copper from railways just happen to stumble across it? Without any prior planing?

[@windhelmguard5295]

pretty sure locks like these aren't protecting things that someone who learns how to lock pick for the purpose of stealing would want. it's probably for keeping teenagers or homeless people out of dangerous areas or from fiddling with equipment, that is, while important, not worth stealing because nobody outside of a railroad company would have any use for it. sure domestic terrorists could potentially abuse that system, but that probably wasn't much of a concern when these locks were implemented and replacing all of them (and providing all the keys to anyone who does need to have access) might be a considerable expense.

[@blake_lively_matters6553]

@@Jehty_ - What is this planing you speak of? Is this wood shop, I thought this was lock shop?

[@A76noname]

For some reason the volume of your videos has been very low recently. I have to noticeably raise the volume compared to my usual level whenever I watch your videos nowadays.

[@annakhatri]

I've had the same issue. Not sure if he got a new mic but I definitely have to pump the volume way up.

[@defuller1]

I realize there's no contract here, but if Chris went to the trouble and expense to send you the lock, wouldn't it be better to honor those requests than to just keep the lock and add it to your collection?

[@justins8802]

Yep, very bummed about this video. Guess the silver lining is that LPL was honest enough to admit that he wasn’t honoring the request.

[@spamy6661]

Exactly my thought!

[@gigimava]

It is honest to say that it's not worth picking. You need a specialized tool to pick a disc detainer, which is nonsense, if there are 10 possible keys. Also, it'd be a boring pick, because there are just 3 discs. He's been picking 5-7 disc cores in less than a minute. Maybe he picked this one, too, but the camera shutter wasn't fast enough to catch it. Also, he told us something interesting about the lock, and locks in general.

[@robertbackhaus8911]

Also, disk detainer locks are not that interesting when in pieces - it's not like they have interestingly shaped driver and key pins. And the shackle latch on this lock looks to be a bog standard ball bearing design.

[@Jomskylark]

@@gigimava I think it's far more likely a thief has a disc detainer tool than 10+ keys of this random lock though

[@lairdcummings9092]

My guess? Bureaucracy and logistical efficiency. The railroads have a LOT of locks. Keeping track of those keys is a nightmare. Likewise, *replacing* those locks with an upgraded version would be hugely expensive and another bureaucratic nightmare. So, they keep rolling with what they have.

[@davebowman6497]

Doing military service, many ears ago, I was in the signal detail of my company. We relied heavily on using landline phones for everything but "immediate tactical" signals. For this, the country was absolutely scattered with connection points for us to use. We had 3 to 5 km of phone wire to route from wherever we established company HQ to the nearest connection point. In each such there where a number of available connections we could use, without any further porocedure. And from those you could call ANY number. Of course these connection points where locked, but one key covered an area of tens ofvthousands of square kilometers. Thousands of connection points. Anything else would have been impractical. But there where too many keyscin circulation. I would guess on the order of thousands. And of course some where "lost", and resulted in absolutely zero cost phone calls. There was this story, true or not, circulating about the cost of replacing all the keys when things got out of hand. And during my service we had to call in to the phone company to report both connecting snd disconnecting. Military numbers wherealways functioning, but I assume they where monitoring traffic on non-reported military numbers.. Securing a large scale situation like this is HARD.

[@MonkeyJedi99]

Same reasoning behind those atrocious TSA-approved luggage locks.

[@JackPitmanNica]

The railroads keep rolling... 🤣🤣

[@devilmikey00]

It's also a simple procedure to replace a lock. Lock breaks or gets cut? Buy a new one and all your existing keys still work just the same. Lose a key? Who cares, just go to the office and get a new one of the matching number.

[@nealgold8442]

As aways an informative video. But you forgot one thing; how you or someone else would identify which numbered key to use without guessing or process of elimination. The last two digits of the correct key is stamped on the top of the cylinder between the shackle. If you stop the video and look closely where the LPL references the cylinder that needs to be removed for disassembly you can see “02”. Have a nice day!

[@glenjamindle]

It says "CR" and "INR". There isn't an 02 anywhere

[@amojak]

aww he wants the lock so much for his collection, he doesn't want to dismantle it :)

[@AndrewWellsPlus]

Well I think it's also that he doesn't generally do destructive tear downs.

[@ralphcoolbaugh371]

Come on … you pick lots of locks that you have the key for. I love watching you pick locks, even the insecure ones.

[@delta3244]

This is the key-based equivalent of a combination lock which uses one digit in its code. Sure, you could decode it, but you could just open it instead. For my part, I find it interesting when the flaw "not enough possible configurations" can be exploited in a 'secure' system.

[@KF1]

Lol insecure locks

[@Dyanosis]

@@delta3244 Considering the letter asked him to *pick the lock*, your statement makes no sense.

[@delta3244]

@@Dyanosis I would call the way this video's lock was opened lockpicking - or at least a demonstration that the lock was picked in the past. To be clear, this _is_ how I intuitively understand the word, despite how long it's going to take me to explain why. The act of "picking a lock" is one of exploiting a weakness in the lock's design to open it without using the intended key. The way that all locks are supposed to work is this: within the lock, there is a password kept hidden from whoever sees it, which is often physically-coded. Outside the lock, there is some means of entering a password. To open a lock properly is to know the password and input it. To pick it is to open it without knowing the password, or to discover the password by examining the lock. In the case of a 1-digit combination lock, let's say you want to open it without the code. The strategy you choose to employ is this: try each digit. When the lock opens, you got it right. It should be clear that this is lockpicking - you started without the combination, and by examining the lock, you discovered the combination. Now, consider the lock in the video. It doesn't use a combination, sure, but it's fundamentally very similar under the surface. The different cuts on a key correspond to different digits in a combination, and the depth/etc. of those cuts is the value of the digit. In this particular case, there are iirc 12 possible combinations. This makes it very similar to our 1-digit combination from earlier, so we employ the same strategy: try each option. When one works, we've successfully picked the lock, both because the lock's been opened w/out its intended key and because we've learned its password.

[@Skinflaps_Meatslapper]

@@delta3244 "The act of "picking a lock" is one of exploiting a weakness in the lock's design to open it without using the intended key." You've got it wrong, bucko. Picking a lock means physically manipulating the pins or wafers or discs to get an open. Exploiting a weakness in the lock's design without fiddling around with the pins is almost always considered a bypass. Replicating a key falls outside both of these fields and into its own separate field. All are encompassed and/or utilized in locksport/locksmithing.

[@garyplewa9277]

Great marketing opportunity - "The HoBo Key set from Covert Instruments". Made especially for older HoBo's who can't climb fences anymore 🙂

[@johndoe-so2ef]

Perfect for a collaboration video with shoestring.

[@jiskagrohn4951]

A disassembly video would have been nice for a change tho

[@craigw1911]

Only guess I have for the low-security keying is for railroad employees traveling from one area to another that would need to access such a lock to not have to carry many variants of the keys to do their job. Sort of like firemen carrying common special keys for elevators and commercial building lockboxes to get access.

[@SpyroTheEternalNight]

i understand wanting it for the collection, but if you could find a 2nd one, i really would like to see it taken apart!

[@apo.exoworlds]

He probably has a 2nd and 3rd one, but they're black- and brass-coloured so gutting would ruin the collection.

[@DarkMayhemCRO]

It is likely used in low security areas like fence gates or stuff like that. Where a large number of people have to access it (hence the same key) but only really needs to be a deterrent for people who are not supposed to be there. Someone can just jump the fence anyway if they put their mind to it.

[@danielweston9188]

Rail switches

[@johndododoe1411]

@@danielweston9188 Many rail switches can be operated with murderous intent to cause deliberate collisions. They need security against terrorists and foreign agents, not just idiots.

[@danielweston9188]

@@johndododoe1411 That is now - this was then. Now they have electronic controls to know the position of the switches. The switches near my house in the 70's were this type of lock and were even often left unlocked.

[@daffydavidyt]

@@danielweston9188 No. This is considered "high security lock" for switches in dark territory.

[@professorred]

@@daffydavidyt what’s low security then?

[@Zetroc63]

My Boi,, True gangster takes guys lock in front of everyone "Going in my collection"......🤣😅😎

[@FishFind3000]

I know right, dude just stole this guys lock. He wanted it gutted not put in your collection!

[@idkidk4334]

Lol bet we'll see S&G environmental keys on covert instruments soon

[@gbeving3167]

Another good day, hes uploaded again

[@feynthefallen]

WAS it used on high security applications? "High security" and "Left exposed and unsupervised for long times" are usually mutually exclusive. If it were used only as an entry deterrent device that all authorized personel (who would ALSO have all twelve keys) were supposed to be able to access, it would make sense.

[@Merennulli]

Why would they be mutually exclusive? A railroad generally isn't storing cutting edge technology in the field where it needs a weather proof lock, but it does need to deny access to critical infrastructure that needs maintenance rarely. Switching and signaling equipment being accessed by unauthorized people is a potential disaster.

[@Darkside007]

@@Merennulli Sure, but a terrorist is going to get in regardless of the lock. The lock exists to keep the handful of opportunists wandering past the door out.

[@Merennulli]

@@Darkside007 Kids who think it would be funny to break in because they found a set of keys online are a more serious threat than terrorists. A terrorist isn't going to disable random safety systems and cross their fingers in hopes of a tragedy, but kids messing around without realizing the risks they are causing are pretty common.

[@Darkside007]

@@Merennulli ...kids are buying random keys online now? Wouldn't it be easier just to buy a saw from Lowes?

[@Merennulli]

@@Darkside007 A saw is more work and more obviously destructive. A set of keys is more innocuous.

[@derekmcdanold7108]

LPL, I've been a subscriber for years. Your followers know you can pick virtually any lock. We don't care "if" you can pick it, or hear how easy it s to pick. We want to see you pick it.

[@SadisticPicker]

Oh and it definitely resisted ur picking abilities, but not ur selfishness 🤷🏼

[@anamoyeee]

Sometimes 20 seconds is still more than it takes to open some "high security" locks

[@Chris-ut6eq]

...and I just happen to have all 27 keys for this lock. who else would have these just waiting for a lock like this? :)

[@tedpark6814]

The newer ones are constructed differently, there's a set screw that locks the cap in place (you need to have the lock open to access this) so they can be disassembled/serviced without removing the pin. There's a 5 disk version with more cut positions, but the 3 disk one is used by railroads. An interesting point of the S&G locks is that there's no identification of the road on the lock, I'm sure that helps the lock itself from being stolen.

[@jamespurser357]

You should return the lock, he asked you to pick ot and disassemble it. You did neither.

[@Maajadah]

Wait he’s not going to pick it anyways?!?! 😢

[@daifeichu]

I have to admit that these locks really do stand up to the weather here in Canada. At the railway that I work at we use these on switch stands and in over 13 years I've only had to thaw out a couple with my torch. I work for the signal dept so we use Abloy's on our 'bungalows', usually the 240, and I've had to thaw them out lots and lots of times. Usually if I hold the lock in my hand for less than a minute is good enough but sometimes I need the torch. Regarding the S&G Env., I got the code for our locks from Bosnian Bill and made my own key. I was out with a Transport Canada guy one time and he was telling me how secure these locks are. I told him they really are not that secure and showed him my homemade key, which took me about 30 minutes to make including soldering in a quarter for the handle. As far as why railways still use this lock, because the people who make these decisions are like the Transport Canada guy that I was talking with and think it looks secure. The railway I work for started in 1918 and just last year we are finally going to start using Abloy puck locks on our signal housings. I've been telling my bosses that we need to use these for years.

[@doug3102]

That's pretty interesting... I'm in a signal department in the northeast and we use a miniature version of the S&G lock in the video. It has six discs instead of three.

[@briantrash]

Somehow I doubt Chris would have bothered to send him that lock (at some expense I'm sure) had he known that neither of his requests were going to be fulfilled.

[@andy4an]

I'd have been satisfied with this... How many locks do you think he receives? Surely most people that send locks don't ever get featured

[@briantrash]

@@andy4an Don't call me Surely.

[@robertcalkjr.8325]

If someone is going to send the LPL a lock that he might want for his collection, it would be better to send two of them. That way he can keep one for his collection and destroy the other one.

[@andy4an]

@@briantrash classy!

[@pledgegamer]

As a railroader I can agree. I hate those locks. I can’t tell you how many people I have seen loose keys to those locks because they got permanently stuck. Then in the winter, if they get any snow/water in them and then freeze good luck turning the key. Although the locks my railroad uses have what looks to be 5 disks based on looking at the key. Would gladly send you one if I can.

[@7171-Ws6]

Ya man. May a times I had to light a fusee to heat up the lock to open a switch.

[@Melanie16040]

@@7171-Ws6 What is a fusee?

[@MrDeceptacon88]

Is the reason because in harsh weather conditions, larger pins would be easier to turn and not get stuck? 6 or 7 pin keys might have more problems??

[@HobbiesHobo]

I made a key for one with a wooden dowel. It was easy to defeat.

[@IrishJaguar]

The sassy thumbnail has me rolling 🤣

[@CC-S6-01]

They probably use this lock more as a deterrent than an actual lock. They're not bothered by the security but reliability. If a freight train gets delayed cause of a faulty lock that's going to cost them lot.

[@ResidentIT_]

Always love seeing you have a little fun with your thumbnails!

[@Noideawhatimdoing411]

The lock was selected because of the low key count. To have a lock in service for decades requires significant key retention. Simplifying key count and lock styles makes this easier. Keep in mind people may hop aboard a train in New Mexico and then need a key in New York. While the lock can be picked quite easy from a lock smith, it’s intent is to keep honest people honest. Most would not pick the lock, simply use a destructive method to gain entry.

[@nefarious_kitty]

When I worked in the oilfield, we used the higher security version of this lock to secure Radioactive materials.

[@TheCoinChannel]

My first ever dislike on a LPL video. If somebody sends you a lock and spends the time and energy to see it picked, why not just do it? You could show how fast and easy it is to pick and then show your custom key. I understand that you don't want to gut it as the lock itself will be destroyed but at least pick it for him.

[@jpkalishek4586]

Dad had put a Master on his shed that is on family land, and when he passed, Mom forgot his set of keys when she came up that summer. While I knew I could likely pick it, even as weathered as it is, I had 3 keys for the same style key on one of my key-rings, and lo, one worked in the lock. Looking at the number on the key, I think my High School had numerous locks with the same number. A common warning was they knew of this issue so anyone with that key had best stay out of those areas locked by them. Though it was useful when the Gym Coach didn't want to go back to his jacket in the lounge, and asked "Who has a Master key, number 356?"

[@mrwest5552]

it's a fascinating world we live in.

[@KF1]

Would be cool if Mr. East would show up like _you don't know the half of it, friend_

[@achaerna.6662]

Today he is no longer the LockPickingLawyer, today he is the KeyHoardingDisappointer .

[@nadnerb2k]

It would be almost pointless getting a more secure lock. Literally thousands of keys will be in circulation anyway, and those who want them either steal them from employees or buy them black market. You picked and gutted an Australian BiLock key on this channel and rated it very highly. At least one Australian railway uses them, and sadly they are not much more effective than the literal square locks (a slot that can be turned with a screwdriver) used on older trains. Vandals simply target train crews, who are sometimes seriously assaulted. Honestly, a less secure key at least has the advantage of keeping most people away, but also presents less of a risk that rail staff will be assaulted. Probably cheaper to deal with the resultant theft etc than hospital bills.

[@dobashi33]

That thin chain is a quick bypass as well. Maybe it's just there so the lock doesn't fall on the floor when opened.

[@baryonyxwalkeri3957]

Exactly my thoughts too!

[@timtampa]

I'm not asking, I'M BEGGING AT THIS POINT. PLEASE FIX YOUR AUDIO! The last few episodes are so low, I have to turn everything up to full blast to hear it. 🔈🔈🔉🔉🔊🔊

[@mclaine33]

Lmao he lockpicked with a homemade key. That’s genius!!!

[@Dyanosis]

It's not lock picking if he already has the key. Idiot.

[@BobSentell]

Token resistance stops 99% of people. It's not designed to stop dedicated bad actors. It's designed to keep teenage boys from messing with it. The latter is far more common as the former would bypass even the most expensive lock.

[@adammcallister2260]

LPL has now reached such lock picking proficiency he now just has keys to every lock on earth 😂

[@ekremaslan8068]

I guess someone didnt listen to what lpl was talking about

[@adammcallister2260]

@@ekremaslan8068 I guess someone doesn’t have a sense of humour.

[@ekremaslan8068]

@@adammcallister2260 Don' try to make excuses Adam, we know very well that you didn't listen the video, in fact, you are just a bot posting automated comments.

[@adammcallister2260]

@@ekremaslan8068 and which part of the video did I not listen to?

[@peatorv]

Where is your collection, in your garage? I would love to see it. Is it like the mythbusters studio with drawers and drawers 30 feet high with a library ladder?

[@grimreaper6557]

We used the Sergeant & Greenleaf locks in the military a lot both the kind you just showed and a higher security level version

[@dfunited1]

It's November 7th, and I'm already excited for the April 1st video. "Hi I'm the LPL, and today I'm going to show how to gain ingress into my wife's goodies"

[@hung_guanciale8275]

Hi LPL fans! 😊👋

[@dlstracted1306]

The subtitles have upgraded again. Now I'm watching the Walk Between Lawyer.

[@torygrima]

Why does he say please put comments below, and then practically never replies?

[@syd.a.m]

Because he still reads them.

[@maxwellstylez]

When content creators say to put comments below its because when a video gets more comments it gets more interaction and youtube is more likely to show it to other people. I don't know if I just broke the "youtubers are my friends" illusion for you so sorry.

[@CiaranMaxwell]

He wants to reply. But there's not enough hours in the day for it. He addresses it in one of his videos.

[@lairdcummings9092]

He does, *rarely,* reply. But he also gets a lot of information from other lock enthusiasts whom are more familiar with specific locks than he.

[@HAL-zh1kf]

After watching LPL pick or defeat lock after lock after lock, I now assume that most lock manufacturers have the attitude that locks are not necessarily designed to be super secure, but rather just secure enough to deter most people. They're more of a prop than anything else, enough to fool most ordinary people into not bothering to attempt to defeat them. A proper high-security lock usually costs a lot to develop, manufacture, and purchase, but a "prop" lock can be made to fit most people's budgets. There's really no other explanation as to why so many locks are so insecure. Of course, no one in the old-school lock industry ever foresaw some highly-talented expert on mass social media exposing just how insecure most locks actually are. 😄Still, most lock manufacturers apparently have yet to change their strategy.

[@jmavierpayne9726]

Did I just watch the Key Finding Lawyer?? Sir, I don't think you appreciate why your viewers tune in... Please embarrass the lock🙏

[@nomore6167]

I would say the question is not why would a railroad use such a low-quality lock, but rather why would a security company make such a low-quality lock when the rest of the build quality appears to be excellent? That's like building a fortress and putting a Master Lock on the door.

[@tedsaylor6016]

OK, you say it's "The Most Weather Resistant Padlock Ever Made", yet this viewer would like proof. We do not see the internals so we have no idea of the failure/corrosion/sandgunk resistance. At least some reference to more info would be nice.

[@paulg3336]

I'd like to see a video about security measures used on gates etc that use padlocks to prevent easy picking and other methods to breech the locks. For example: where I live ,the local authority uses vehicle access gates that have the whole padlock inside a large thick wall steel cylinder, about 150 ~ 200mm ID . To unlock the padlock the user has to put his hand up into the cylinder and insert the key into the lock and then lift the lock off the shackle/hasp. No part of the lock is accessible to a grinder and there is no room to perform normal picking procedures.

[@UncleRJ]

I mean if you're in the freezing cold or something there is no way you can pick the lock open because your hands are shaking so much and you are more likely to hit your own knee with the sledgehammer instead of the lock. Half of the security is the environment itself!

[@ChrisRossiswatching]

LPL, I'm not sure if it's my machine or if I'm possibly going deaf, but your videos seem to be getting quieter and quieter. Might wanna crank up the audio on your end.

[@dmt3339]

Fan: Hey, here's a random lock I got from my work, can you work your magic? LPL: No magic needed I have the key for that lock right here. LOL

[@BS-ys8zn]

So much butt hurt over your not disassembling the lock. I look at the pin that would need drilled and think 'good luck with that', unless the pin was drilled perfectly the core would never be able to be removed. The pin could be burned out with an EDM, or bored out with a Bridgeport, but try using a hand drill or drill press and you would be left with scrap.

[@zefftrus9825]

Wichita would be better for a customer's wallet on your website to Thanksgiving sale was a Black Friday sale or even a Christmas sale

[@donwold1622]

Disappointed you didn't pick it. Still entertaining, but... what gives?

[@rayoflight62]

A lock with only 12 possible different keys? It is almost unbelievable...

[@worstworkshop]

I feel like the lock is much more secure than that swing set chain.

[@PickSmith122]

It is in extremely poor taste to not do as the sender requested. And worse was to blatantly state that you are adding it to your collection. Just another snub from a high profile picker that has gone commercial and doesn’t respect the community anymore.

[@reverendtfg6802]

*Right??? Chris Floridaman risked his freedom to steal that lock ...for what?*

[@PickSmith122]

@@reverendtfg6802 another sad thing is I disliked this video and I know others who did the same. And they don’t have a running count of that 🤷🏻‍♂️. This is why I unsubbed a while back. This is just to bad to fathom and I bet these comments get deleted after a bit.

[@MedusalObligation]

There are thousands of copies of the key in circulation. There is no security. They just keep the casual passer-by from opening the lock and then operating the switch, cabinet, etc.

[@Lrjohnson4543]

Boooo. The poor guy sends you a lock with 2 simple requests, and you just stiff him like that? Dick move.

[@MrYaroslavMudrij]

Probably lock is there to show, that entry is protected and will be prosecuted. You cannot claim that you just wondered somewhere, or opened something locked without malice.

[@curlyvideos]

Most weather-resistant ever? I'm getting fed up with LPL treating warded padlocks like a joke

[@RipRoaringGarage]

Railroards around the country are now scrambling...

[@johnofthenorth6653]

They still use the lock because Security Theater is better then nothing. A curious person would see the lock and move on. A determined person is just as likely to cut the fence or smash the lock with a sledgehammer. Why not let them smash the cheap lock?

[@3characterhandlerequired]

Those are in place to keep random people from entering a wrong or dangerous area, not to secure something valuable. Like in gates in a fence that can be climbed over. At least that is what they are supposed to be used. So if a thief breaks in and gets itself killed in process so what.

[@My-Pal-Hal]

YOU USED A KEY,.. REALLY ??? You didn't have some Toothpicks, Toothpaste,.. or a Monkeys Paw handy? Come On. What is our world coming to 😏

[@My-Pal-Hal]

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[@ImmortalAbsol]

I get that it's insecure for that reason but wouldn't you usually have picked it had it come with a key? And they requested it.

[@reverendtfg6802]

*Chris Floridaman risked his freedom to steal you that lock and you didn't even pick it for him.* 🤨☹😞

[@jaywellington9904]

Lately, the volume of the LPL's videos have been very low. About half the normal volume.

[@weswheel4834]

But look at the chain! Why would they both superhumanizing the padlock if the chain it comes with could be bitten through by a small rodent? I'm assuming that they only wanted to lock things up a little bit :)

[@williamhaynes7089]

chain looks like it was there to keep lock from falling on ground when unlocked.. wasn't around the shackle

[@weswheel4834]

@@williamhaynes7089 Lol, you're probably right :D In my head, the other end of the chain went onto the shackle when it was locked around something, but yes your idea makes more sense.

[@johnwood9293]

I understand why you would not go through the process of gutting it. I get the information on the keys. But, why not pick it as well?

[@S7E_Siriel-Privat]

I think for firms like rail road companies its more about the assurance compliance than actual security.

[@unlockeduk]

very simple big disks are weather resistant and hard to break so thats probably why

[@MrJinxmaster1]

You mentioned your collection, is it worth seeing or is it just a heap of boxes tucked away?

[@KuruGDI]

I would say the lock is foremost designed to work and is meant to be better than nothing. If the lock is used in some remote area a core with a higher security will not do any better since you either simply have the time to pick it open and take your time or the location is so remote that a battery powered angle grinder would not be heard by anybody. So why invest more than needed?

[@DonzLockz]

You cheated with a key!😆

[@timbush7850]

The old locks that these replaced were warded locks that were easily opened/destroyed with a hammer or a rock. They were quick to open and just snapped shut, if you were in a hurry, but not very secure. If they were frozen shut, you could thaw them out with a lit fusee. The first issue of the S&G locks were pretty much smash proof but it was soon discovered to be easily opened with a sixteen penny nail. That required the carriers to re-issue lock and keys with a slightly more secure key. The new locks are still susceptible to freezing rain...

[@kcidmil]

I have to say this might be the first time I've ever been let down on a LPL video. No picking or gutting.

[@Goatcha_M]

They're probably more concerned about casual thieves and vandals than professional thieves, and lord knows railroads like to penny pinch. Everyone always skimps on security until they have an incident.

[@glasslinger]

Possibly reduce the chance of losing the key and having to figure out what replacement key to use. This could be serious in an emergency situation. Just my guess.

[@johndododoe1411]

Authorized personnel would know already, unauthorized get no clues.

[@terry_willis]

Disc detainer? Hey you didn't use the tool that you and BosnianBill made!! 😭