15 Great Pianists attempt Brahms’ most INSANE sequence of music (Paganini Variations Book 1: Var 14)

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@johnphillips5993
@johnphillips5993 5 ай бұрын
I love how Kobrin (my teacher!) doesn’t exactly go for speed, but for sound. He produces a very organ-like sound here (and in the rest of Book I), which is better than just blowing through this
@igo.spekkyjarvonvreich
@igo.spekkyjarvonvreich Ай бұрын
(you should tell your teacher to take better care of his spine)
@johnphillips5993
@johnphillips5993 Ай бұрын
@ oh he has the best posture in the world
@OpinionatedSkink
@OpinionatedSkink Жыл бұрын
Kissin's 100% for me. Absolute machine in this. Would love to see what Lim Yunchan does with this one day. He has the chops for it surely, after demolishing Feux Follets
@daniele8716
@daniele8716 Жыл бұрын
Machine? I don't think Kissin is just that, the Asiatic versions sound like machine-playing, not him
@JoePatrych
@JoePatrych Жыл бұрын
From where is this live performance? I have the one from 1/23/95 in Carnegie, and its equal to this
@peterholetschek9803
@peterholetschek9803 Жыл бұрын
LIM is a copy machine, a totally unmusical robot, he will never be accepted as a MUSICIAN
@peterholetschek9803
@peterholetschek9803 Жыл бұрын
Who is LIM Y. ?... a copy machine without musicality at all
@peterholetschek9803
@peterholetschek9803 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, all these asiatic rhythm machines should be banned from all stages
@HaischkaEST
@HaischkaEST Жыл бұрын
I'm not the biggest Kissin fan, to be honest, but this style is exactly where he shines. It's deliberate, powerful, and bravura. Wonderful!
@HerrEdge
@HerrEdge 4 ай бұрын
None of these recordings should be judged as direct comparison of the respective pianist’s abilities EXCEPT the live video performances. Pianist’s work (with varying degrees of performer’s complicity) are subjected to rigorous mistake-scrubbing. I know from personal experience in the recording booth. Even without my request, the tech was already busily deleting squashed notes and splicing takes to create a note-perfect performance. Let’s stop the brainless hero-worship of note-perfect recordings. They’re fake. We classical pianists are not pop musicians. The struggle of live performance is a massive undertaking: physical, mental, emotional, spiritual. Accordingly, I am delighted to find some fantastic feats in this excellently edited video, along with the telling and informative mistakes made by some genuinely consummate artists, all of which I have the utmost respect for. This piece is a BEAR. A terrifying, awe-inspiring beast. Clara Schumann’s ‘Hexenvariationen.’
@markfowlermusic
@markfowlermusic 2 ай бұрын
That section at 2:58 I can’t physically reach the bottom E key when you have to switch to the broken octave part in right hand and left hand plays the part I’m on about, because you have to play the D sharp and E in succession with index and thumb, I can’t reach down to hit that low E with my pinky when it gets to it, can reach the F sharp etc…
@BrianPaick
@BrianPaick Жыл бұрын
You forget how absolutely superb Zilberstein is just because she's not often mentioned in the same breath as Kissin or Argerich or Sokolov. That power! Like Richter at his best (which he unfortunately is not here, based on album cover it's late in life)
@franksmith541
@franksmith541 Жыл бұрын
Women can't really play with much power. I prefer Tzimon Barto's live performance, available on YT. Big guy who plays big.
@markwilliamson8047
@markwilliamson8047 Жыл бұрын
@FrankSmith It’s obvious you haven’t listened to the right women pianists (including Zilberstein in this video). Either that, or you’re just blatantly sexist.
@BrianPaick
@BrianPaick Жыл бұрын
@@markwilliamson8047 Let the incel be, he gets bullied enough Also Tzimon Barto's var 14 is a soporific
@franksmith541
@franksmith541 Жыл бұрын
@@markwilliamson8047 No, I have recordings of Idil Biret's Rachmaninoff Sonatas and Douze Grandes Etudes of Liszt and there is a fullness and power to her playing. I admire her very much, as I do other women pianists. It's just that men of equal technique play with more power. It's simple physics. I once saw Hamelin break a string while playing the concluding pages of the mighty fugue of Reger's Bach Variations. The power Yefim Bronfman brought to the cadenza of Rach 3 while I was sitting in the front row will always be with me - as well as to the Islamey in another concert I attended. Another great memory is of Garrick Ohlsson playing the Busoni Concerto in the late 80s. Colossal sound that I have not heard produced by a female pianist. I have attended concerts of several well-known female pianists in the Rach and Balakirev pieces mentioned, but they don't come close for big sound (as Bronfman). "Chords like cast bronze", as Busoni's Liszt playing was once described.
@antiksur8883
@antiksur8883 8 ай бұрын
​@@franksmith541This is just a series of anecdotes. It's pointless to respond with "oh, but I say blah blah blah.."
@The_Guy_Who_Asked_06
@The_Guy_Who_Asked_06 Жыл бұрын
Seeing all those broken octaves makes my wrists hurt.
@ArgerichStan
@ArgerichStan Жыл бұрын
Brahms loved his broken octaves!
@WalterReade
@WalterReade Жыл бұрын
I don't know what a broken octave is, and my wrists still hurt from this.
@acactus2190
@acactus2190 3 ай бұрын
@@WalterReade its probably better if you don't...lol
@h-ye7um
@h-ye7um 3 ай бұрын
I assume Hamelin likes them even more
@chazinko
@chazinko Жыл бұрын
Have always loved Arrau's Paganini Variations. The articulation and quality of sonority are always connected to the expression of the music, even at its greatest intensity. And Gilels, though older here, played the Brahms Paganini Variations in the 1938 Queen Elizabeth Competition in which Michelangeli was also a contestant. It would be very interesting to have heard the younger Gilels play this work especially based on his other early recordings such as the Liszt Figaro Fantasy.
@filmscorefreak
@filmscorefreak Жыл бұрын
Kissin is flippin amazing. But musically, I love Pogorelich's version the best, really brings out the macabre!
@MarcMichaelC.Heydenreich
@MarcMichaelC.Heydenreich 3 ай бұрын
Pogorelich wie häufig, willkürlich und maniriert ohne Sinn.
@sebastian-benedictflore
@sebastian-benedictflore Жыл бұрын
Woah, Michelangeli. Too much pedal for my personal taste perhaps but absolutely incredible. He goes beyond technical feats and uses it to create something special that I've never heard in this passage
@szdxw
@szdxw Жыл бұрын
The overused pedal is what create something special. The reverb of the bass really emphasizes the phrasing of the melody.
@sebastian-benedictflore
@sebastian-benedictflore Жыл бұрын
@@szdxw yeah, absolutely. I probably wouldn't do it myself but it sounds amazing when he does it.
@nilsfrederking62
@nilsfrederking62 Жыл бұрын
I like the different approach of Francesco Libetta. Jong Hwa Parks version is very good in the sense that the duck tempo brings out the melodic structure better.
@Geisterschiff
@Geisterschiff Жыл бұрын
You should nickname this wonderful vídeos as a great Brazilian writer Nelson Rodrigues titled his chronicles in the newspapers "A vida como ela é" meaning "Life as it is". THIS is reality, a life taking risks in front of people, getting scratches, making mistakes and great music alltogether and above all showing deep sense of humanity. Congratulations🎉Great job!
@Piflaser
@Piflaser 3 ай бұрын
Brahms called it "Studien für Klavier" witch means piano etudes. He wrote it for Carl Tausig, who played it often in concert. Clara Schumann studied the work, but never played it in public.
@aidankoop2110
@aidankoop2110 Жыл бұрын
Kobrin was astonishing. So good.
@balsamicvinegar4454
@balsamicvinegar4454 Жыл бұрын
The camera cuts in the Zilberstein are out of this world. I felt like I was watching inception, every two seconds a new cut. The entire video is so cool.
@daniele8716
@daniele8716 Жыл бұрын
And evidently not live....
@JoePatrych
@JoePatrych Жыл бұрын
Too many for a classical music video (I say this as a livestream director) - more suited to a video game
@JoePatrych
@JoePatrych Жыл бұрын
@@daniele8716 I am sure edited heavily
@starfire.chuang
@starfire.chuang 11 ай бұрын
The audio is live.
@Fritz_Maisenbacher
@Fritz_Maisenbacher 11 ай бұрын
16:35 and special thanks and respect for the very dominant female Mrs. Zilberstein. I love this kind of boxing Brahms knock-out instead playing it with mourning grimaces.
@jeromedinchong5278
@jeromedinchong5278 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is so dramatic! I just love Evgeny's, Yuja Wang's and Jong Hwa Park's versions. Thumbs up !
@PastukhSkota
@PastukhSkota Жыл бұрын
For me, it's Kissin. Not only is it faster than most, but he also brings the most amazing clarity. I was astonished i first heard his studio recording... jaw Dropped!! -Michelangeli- great speed, but is more muddy than the Ultra crispness of Kissin. (And that he cut out one of the harder bits!?.... I'm with You on this surprise is this realization! )
@alexchristodoulou
@alexchristodoulou Жыл бұрын
Kobrin played with the best character. Kissin with the best clarity (given the frantic speed)
@Pseudify
@Pseudify Жыл бұрын
One thing is for sure - this piece has the full attention of every single one of them! Most appear to be quite thankful when that section is over.
@yeetthebeet
@yeetthebeet 4 ай бұрын
wow kobrin's interp is really beautiful
@Paganini-Liszt
@Paganini-Liszt Жыл бұрын
1:04 How I play this is I cross my hands. I play the lowest octave parts with my left hand, and the highest octave parts with my left as well.
@Lecter1010
@Lecter1010 Жыл бұрын
Kobrin's rendition is so underrated. He played even better in Cliburn 2005
@ArgerichStan
@ArgerichStan Жыл бұрын
His Cliburn performance is astonishing. There is something though about this early performance that I am obsessed with - it is so POWERFUL, he goes for such a massive sound that no-one else really attempts despite never losing the clarity of articulation. In the Cliburn he lightens up slightly, maybe because of the piano or maybe just because over time he modified his interpretation.
@Lecter1010
@Lecter1010 Жыл бұрын
@@ArgerichStan Can’t agree more! Kobrin had some mad phrasing and tone control. Not like others did not play the piece well but Kobrin gave more depth and resonance to the music. Thats what made him special in my opinion.
@JoePatrych
@JoePatrych Жыл бұрын
Agreed - the Cliburn 2005 Semi-Final performance is actually bette rthan this one, and in much better sound.
@mcbainst
@mcbainst Жыл бұрын
Did yall see what Ivo did there?!?? Outlining the original Paganini theme, around all the "fast" notes.
@musicalofferings4439
@musicalofferings4439 5 ай бұрын
The most musical. Best one.
@jtrevm
@jtrevm Жыл бұрын
I did a blind test - classing as first, second, third, no. Three firsts; three seconds; four thirds; five nos. For the firsts: Kobrin, Zilberstein and Libetta in that order. Remark on Kobrin - 'command, he knows'. On Zilberstein - 'command, she wants'. On Libetta - 'sharp and punchy'. Of my three seconds I liked Pierdomenico. 'He's enjoying it'.
@MarcMichaelC.Heydenreich
@MarcMichaelC.Heydenreich 3 ай бұрын
Toll, wie sie das blind heraushören! Ich gebe zu, ich bin immer etwas voreingenommen :-)) .
@GrayNotes
@GrayNotes Жыл бұрын
Zilberstein nailed it! Powerful and well articulated but still without rushing just through it. Other interpretations sound a bit mannered ... like they just want to let the world know that they have a unique musicality ;)
@danielhughes441
@danielhughes441 Жыл бұрын
Too slow
@ShutUpZewenThisIsNotBased
@ShutUpZewenThisIsNotBased Жыл бұрын
​@@danielhughes441you are
@romkrasorg
@romkrasorg 11 ай бұрын
Lilya Zilberstein - Super! Bravo!
@celloguy
@celloguy Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! Thanks for creating. Had never heard this piece. (Weirdly Wang us down a tone)
@Quotenwagnerianer
@Quotenwagnerianer Жыл бұрын
The Paganini Variations never cease to amaze me. Because in them Brahms showed that, had he wished, he could have written piano music on the same difficulty level as Liszt if he wanted to. He just didn't want to. His expressive goals lay elsewhere.
@armandoyague6819
@armandoyague6819 Жыл бұрын
This is harder than liszt, 4 variations are bordering unplayable. Also the difficulties are quite original, many variations sound easier than they are actually, teach you how important is to place right your hands, in a manner i never felt with Liszt. Liszt difficulties are more about show than actual challenges( yes, a lot of octaves, very fast)
@pianocontortions7038
@pianocontortions7038 Жыл бұрын
It's not at all hard to write something hard, just saying... just use huge jumps like this.
@Quotenwagnerianer
@Quotenwagnerianer Жыл бұрын
@@pianocontortions7038 No one said anything about it being hard to compose a technical difficult piece. But composers usually write for Piano only in the range of what their own technical abilities can manage. So if Brahms wrote this it means he could play it.
@armandoyague6819
@armandoyague6819 Жыл бұрын
@@pianocontortions7038 okey, write your own paganini variations and we talk later xd
@robhaskins
@robhaskins Жыл бұрын
I agree with you about Kobrin.
@mateussphilippi5029
@mateussphilippi5029 Жыл бұрын
I liked tuning of the piano in Yuja Wang video.
@Montu-pc5gp
@Montu-pc5gp 8 ай бұрын
pov when its a half step lower
@tomolavson1834
@tomolavson1834 Жыл бұрын
Pretty fun listening to these contrasting performances... Overall, so much of book one is difficult.. Please listen to THE great master...Julius Katchen and the recent recording of Gayvrylyuk to really hear what it can do... and I agree Kobrin is really musical ..Unfortunate he wasn't playing a New York Steinway rather than that harsh tin bucket
@reachmehere5
@reachmehere5 Жыл бұрын
Aline van Barentzen's 1941 recording of both books is the best that I've heard.
@tobiaspeter6555
@tobiaspeter6555 8 ай бұрын
Noone really nails it. Kissin wins, however, the overall prize. Never heard Yuja Wang hit so many wrong notes. But honestly: kind of fun to hear this passage that brings even the world's best pianists beyond their limits.
@marksmith3947
@marksmith3947 Ай бұрын
I'm glad the organizers gave An the correct piece to play this time
@AlessandroContimusic
@AlessandroContimusic Жыл бұрын
Listen to Julius Katchen, unbelievable! (only on record as far as I know)
@ArgerichStan
@ArgerichStan Жыл бұрын
Katchen is divine in Brahms, possibly the greatest. It's a shame there is no live recording of him playing this...his studio is unbelievable as you say.
@andrewharrison8975
@andrewharrison8975 Жыл бұрын
As far as I am aware there is no extant recording of these variations by Egon Petri so I assume this extract is culled from his prewar studio recording for English Columbia; I suppose there is a sort ‘live’ element to the recording process back then as the complete variations had to be recorded in 4/5 minute segments direct to disc, but of course if the artist made a mistake he could record another take. It would be interesting to see if this particular recording was a 1st ‘take’
@Fritz_Maisenbacher
@Fritz_Maisenbacher Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Es-bahn, this is really a wonderful work. And to think about it, with a "solution" which can not be found easilly .... And, after all, (and after many listening sessions) my preference goes to Mrs. Kolesova (silver medal) and, by far the GOLD medal : Wilhelm Backhaus. 6:56 (at 7:20 the rigid Backhaus becoming completely crazy, mad .... ) Why ? Because these two pianists are not able to dominate (emotionally) this piece, but are dominated by it. Taken in the flood ot the passion, overwhelmed, submitted, and like some wonderful Titanics. You see ?
@flonzaley6092
@flonzaley6092 Жыл бұрын
A good few years back a performance by the late British pianist David Parkhouse of the Paganini Variations was selected as the best by Piano Quarterly. Luckily the inimitable Procopolis has transferred it from his huge collection of LPs and posted it. Parkhouse stands up well in this steller company. A 'studio' performance but the 'studio' conditions were so poor that it might have been easier to play live.The real point is: how do the closing sections work as a culmination to the set? I remember Yuja Wang played each book as one enormous wave, with only a little breath in between. I also think it should be noted that the cuts are made mostly by pianists of the 78 era - and may not be their choice. The 78s of Michelangeli were a very odd mish-mash, superlatively played but cut about ruthlessly. Here I can't help thinking that the women do best: especially Kolesova. But Pierdomenico, whom I'd never heard before, is extremely fine.
@JoePatrych
@JoePatrych Жыл бұрын
That is correct about the cuts in the 78 versions - there were record company imposed time limits that forced those decisions (as well as tempo considerations in many recordings)
@eytonshalomsandiego
@eytonshalomsandiego Жыл бұрын
not for the first time do i find Kissin's breathtaking and my favorite...
@Highinsight7
@Highinsight7 Жыл бұрын
the tempo I play it at... is very close to Tianxu An... very clear and on the safe side...
@ondinehd6889
@ondinehd6889 Жыл бұрын
Lilya Zilberstein: the best performance! (Jong Hwa Park: very crisp, interesting, but not always "clean.")
@juanmarinez877
@juanmarinez877 Жыл бұрын
Curiously, Yuja Wang's video is slowed down, the tuning does not correspond to what the piano should have, it is heard almost in A flat instead of A major, is there anyone determined to harm it?
@DrDLL99
@DrDLL99 Жыл бұрын
The uploader always picks Yuja's worst performance on KZbin. I think he (or she) has a bone to pick with her.
@ArgerichStan
@ArgerichStan Жыл бұрын
@@DrDLL99 I’m not sure what you mean. I worship Yuja, but it is not my intention to single out someone’s “best” performance of something unless the title suggests so “who played it best” etc. I am more interesting in different situations and versions of someone’s performances. There is another video of Yuja playing the Brahms slightly more polished but the camera angle is awful so I chose this one. The tuning issue is weird and someone else made a video on it (kzbin.info/www/bejne/paatmqOOedFld5Y) but for me it doesn’t affect my perception of it. Besides this video, I don’t see how any recording I have chosen of Yuja is her worst. Her Chopin Ballade, Rach 3, Prokofiev 7 and Lavapies are all excellent.
@Pogouldangeliwitz
@Pogouldangeliwitz Жыл бұрын
I mean: a little better or a little badder, Miss Wang sucks anyway... 🤷‍♂️
@ArgerichStan
@ArgerichStan Жыл бұрын
@@Pogouldangeliwitz she does not suck…..how anyone would reach that conclusion is beyond me
@Pogouldangeliwitz
@Pogouldangeliwitz Жыл бұрын
@@ArgerichStan I came to that conclusion by listening to all her recordings and comparing them to interpretations by Solomon, Feinberg, ABM, Schnabel, Gulda, Gilels, Lipatti, Hofmann, Argerich, Volodos, Pletnev, Schiff, Rubinstein, Horowitz, Friedman, Kempff, Sokolov, Brendel, Gould - but what do I know...?
@gabrieleferrari9383
@gabrieleferrari9383 Жыл бұрын
Michelangeli is something else! Wow
@AntonioPaterno
@AntonioPaterno Жыл бұрын
Michelangeli's version (despite cuts) is out of this world 😮
@alhfgsp
@alhfgsp Жыл бұрын
Michelangeli is an extraordinary pianist but the Brahms Paganini Variations are the the weakest I've ever heard him (in part because of the cuts). I'd rather hear his Beethoven or Chopin.
@daniele8716
@daniele8716 Жыл бұрын
​​@@alhfgsp You must be kidding! His version, despite all the cuts, is unsurpassed. Only Kissin came close, but in the studio. Michelangeli was able to play this live without a single false note at a demonic speed and without ever losing control of sonority and of the big line. Pianistically it was and still is a miracle, revered by generations of students and critics.
@alhfgsp
@alhfgsp Жыл бұрын
@@daniele8716 I've never heard another instance where a pianist (or any classical musician for that matter) cuts a large section of the music for a reason other than a memory slip. It was disappointing since it was one of my favorite moments in book 1. As I've stated, he's a great pianist. His rendition of Beethoven's 5th piano concerto is incredible. But that nonesense with intentional cuts is just ridiculous.
@berndbrackman4443
@berndbrackman4443 Жыл бұрын
​@@daniele8716Michelangeli plays flawless, in a great speed, but not at all demonic. One hears a lot of things, but certainly not the devil. As is usual with his versions of almost anything I heard of him.
@JoePatrych
@JoePatrych Жыл бұрын
@@alhfgsp See my comment elsewhere as to why those cuts are in the Michelangeli recording.
@kpunkt.klaviermusik
@kpunkt.klaviermusik Жыл бұрын
Richter surprisingly slow (compared to the others) - my favorite.
@maxp07
@maxp07 Жыл бұрын
I like so much Julius Katchen interpretation but unfortunatly is not in this list.
@PastukhSkota
@PastukhSkota Жыл бұрын
Did Earl Wild ever record this live? I know his amazing studio recording... but was hoping theres a live version floating around here!
@JoePatrych
@JoePatrych Жыл бұрын
I have tons of live Wild, but have never seen a live Brahms Pag
@franksmith541
@franksmith541 Жыл бұрын
How come you didn't include Tzimon Barto's live performance, available right here on YT? This is a big guy with big hands, well-suited to this music.
@Aurevilly
@Aurevilly Жыл бұрын
Yuja Wang sloppy and in pain, never thought I’d see that 🤔 Kissin imperial here
@ArgerichStan
@ArgerichStan Жыл бұрын
Wang starts off strong and then starts to derail. Her studio recording is (obviously) much stronger - and given her technique I’m positive she could give a better live performance on a different night but it’s a shame that the one video we have of her doing it isn’t her best
@DrDLL99
@DrDLL99 Жыл бұрын
@@ArgerichStan there’s another video of her playing it live, wearing a purple dress. She’s much better in that one.
@richardhunter132
@richardhunter132 Жыл бұрын
I do find myself asking if this is actually musical?
@skimask7776
@skimask7776 Жыл бұрын
My favorites for this are 11 and 15.
@elijahcalloway118
@elijahcalloway118 Жыл бұрын
Crazy how Yuja is like 11/2 a tone down from everyone else, yet she still played that with no effort and musicality.
@paulstrickler5684
@paulstrickler5684 10 ай бұрын
Guess I’m musically stupid: I don’t understand this comment. What does 11/2 indicate?
@hshshs2007
@hshshs2007 Жыл бұрын
Jong Hwa Park at 15:26 is really outstanding and it was a shame that this is my first encounter with him in here.Bravissimo
@LisztianGR
@LisztianGR Жыл бұрын
Nothing interesting in it. He just struggles to - and succeeds in - not making a mistake and pressing (almost) all the correct notes. A feat by itself, don't get me wrong, but music is not gymnastics - and not everything is for everybody to perform.
@hshshs2007
@hshshs2007 Жыл бұрын
@@LisztianGR this is so unfair really. He's such a great musician and deserves all the appreciation and recognition.
@LisztianGR
@LisztianGR Жыл бұрын
@@hshshs2007 I was referring to this particular excerpt that I listened to - haven't heard of him in general. Will look him up when time allows.
@prototropo
@prototropo Ай бұрын
First three are unbeatable.
@dorfmanjones
@dorfmanjones Жыл бұрын
Petri's rendition is studio I believe; not live.
@jphmz
@jphmz 3 ай бұрын
Claudio Arrau was not included, but in my opinion he plays it way better than all of the pianists included in this video.
@jamespicht1128
@jamespicht1128 3 ай бұрын
Do you know of a live recording online?
@Fritz_Maisenbacher
@Fritz_Maisenbacher 11 ай бұрын
And yes, Mr. Kobrin, absolutely great. (just a little too young for the toxic inspiration of the piece, but don't worry, he will be soon depressive-agressive as all and play the work heavenly)
@cantkeepitin
@cantkeepitin Жыл бұрын
A pitty that there is e g no Pollini record
@jfpary7336
@jfpary7336 Жыл бұрын
You forgot Julius Katchen.
@diogomori9624
@diogomori9624 Жыл бұрын
Judging by the strained facial expressions of these brilliant pianists, you can imagine how fucking bizarre this is. I know that Brahms was an extremely virtuoso pianist, but did he match Lizst and Chopin?
@aerohydra3849
@aerohydra3849 Жыл бұрын
This piece in particular is IMO even harder than the vast majority of Liszt and all of Chopin's pieces. It's pretty well known as one of the hardest works in the standard repertoire.
@diogomori9624
@diogomori9624 Жыл бұрын
@@aerohydra3849 Yeah I can imagine because it is deeply impressive.
@nicholasfontana5088
@nicholasfontana5088 Жыл бұрын
The video editing in Zilberstein's is unwatchable. Got vertigo from trying to watch that one lol.
@meddem7060
@meddem7060 Жыл бұрын
Synchronizing video and audio is such a difficult task....
@TheVoitel
@TheVoitel Жыл бұрын
All very cool versions, but I really like the one by Francesco Libetta. Many of these interpretations fail to play the top notes _ben marcato_ as Brahms asks for, instead they drown everything in lots of pedal. Kissin is great and articulate (unless in the end where the pedal kind of get’s out of control in one spot, but it is too fast. At this tempo the trills in the bass just do not make sense anymore. Yuja Wang is quite clean and articulate, but a bit too heavy on the pedal.
@gaopinghu7332
@gaopinghu7332 Жыл бұрын
What's it called though?
@Highinsight7
@Highinsight7 Жыл бұрын
sooo many darn GREAT pianists... my favorite...??? Francesco Libetta ??? Richter...????
@peter5.056
@peter5.056 Жыл бұрын
hahah, I spent a summer about 25 years ago learning.... ...that I was never gonna be great at this particular piece, lol...
@ilWadjet
@ilWadjet Жыл бұрын
Wilhelm Backhaus🥰
@kk-ht6uw
@kk-ht6uw Жыл бұрын
My top 4:Gilels, Backhaus, Michelangeli, Kobrin
@raymondgood6555
@raymondgood6555 Жыл бұрын
Gilles was by far the worst
@grumpyoldpianistplus
@grumpyoldpianistplus Жыл бұрын
No.11 is the clearest, with little use of pedal!
@Eliascmd
@Eliascmd Жыл бұрын
Kissin is the winner 👏👏👏 I’m shocked by the disaster Gilels had !
@ArgerichStan
@ArgerichStan Жыл бұрын
This piece is so unplayable that i’m not surprised if it’s ability to derail anyone, no matter how great! Haha
@Paroles_et_Musique
@Paroles_et_Musique Жыл бұрын
You know he was 65 years old, Kissin was 25 ;)
@epicaunleashed8764
@epicaunleashed8764 Жыл бұрын
No. Julius Katchen and another dude played better
@JoePatrych
@JoePatrych Жыл бұрын
@@epicaunleashed8764 For me, a holy grail is to find ANY live Katchen with Brahms - his complete set of the piano music has never been surpassed.
@epicaunleashed8764
@epicaunleashed8764 Жыл бұрын
@@JoePatrych i don't think you'll ever find any live katchen recordng, but agreed. His Brahms is unsurpassable.
@Charlie-xx2wj
@Charlie-xx2wj 4 ай бұрын
I like Silberstein and Kissin. Silberstein has the right idea but the form is not so apparent.... and Kissin has crisp fingering but was played a tad fast though.
@jaykeyz9094
@jaykeyz9094 Жыл бұрын
One of the best versions I've heard is by pianist named Daniel Lessner, you should check out his performance live at Carnegie Hall
@Dizzyfingers2
@Dizzyfingers2 Жыл бұрын
This is marked Allegro. Brahms groups at the 32nd note. Kissin, Michelangeli, Park and Zilberstein play it much too fast and it shows with their mistakes. One cannot bring out the harmonic phrasings at that speed.
@fredfeinberg3995
@fredfeinberg3995 Жыл бұрын
Where are Kissin's mistakes?
@Dizzyfingers2
@Dizzyfingers2 Жыл бұрын
@@fredfeinberg3995 @0:16 for starters ...
@gojewla
@gojewla Жыл бұрын
Is there an early recording of richter playing this? Unfortunately this one is from the 80’s when his playing generally became extremely pedantic.
@daniele8716
@daniele8716 Жыл бұрын
No there isn't. Richter learnt this very late, which is curious. He also disliked Michelangeli in this piece (it's in his diaries). I adore Richter but his version is pale and I very much prefer Mchelangeli's or Kissin's. Gilels learnt this as a young man and it is really a pity that no early vesion survives.
@hjhseo1114
@hjhseo1114 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit Park's hands look INSANE
@paolobigi59
@paolobigi59 Жыл бұрын
Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli
@pghagen
@pghagen Жыл бұрын
I miss Shura Cherkassky! He recorded the complete Paganini Variations by Brahms!
@JoePatrych
@JoePatrych Жыл бұрын
I heard him do it live - there is nothing that man played that wasn't on his own terms and unique.
@markfowlermusic
@markfowlermusic 2 ай бұрын
Kobrin too noisy and too slow, they are Demi semi quavers so the only performance I rate is kissin and that is what I’d consider a perfect performance of this ridiculously difficult section of music. But then one has to consider that kissin is not playing live and rather it’s a studio recording which could have been edited to make it sound much better audio wise and mistake free… I think the other are all live which means they probably played all the others back to back which is astronomically harder than just sitting in a studio and being able to handle them all individually at your leisure.
@calebhu6383
@calebhu6383 22 күн бұрын
The kissin performance here is indeed live.
@markfowlermusic
@markfowlermusic 22 күн бұрын
@@calebhu6383no mistakes how?
@tarikeld11
@tarikeld11 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I would've guessed it's Balakirev or Godovsky!
@ArgerichStan
@ArgerichStan Жыл бұрын
Brahms is usually not known for intense displays of virtuosity, until he is!! Haha
@herrbrahms
@herrbrahms 11 ай бұрын
I don't trust any pianist who doesn't reach for the A0 at the climax of Var. 14, bar 22 of the variation. When Brahms wrote these variations in the 1860s, he hadn't yet received his glorious Streicher instrument with the last three bass keys.
@fiokomjutub972
@fiokomjutub972 Жыл бұрын
Michelangeli
@georgenorris2657
@georgenorris2657 Жыл бұрын
I agree that kobin is best here. He maintains control throughout and keeps the phrasing clear and musical. That piano though: horribly harsh tone and certainly not the pianist´s fault.
@marcraider
@marcraider Жыл бұрын
in this specific part you can hear and see in the writing a lot of Beethoven's influence
@avb20540
@avb20540 Жыл бұрын
Kissin is a monster
@chadvindin9933
@chadvindin9933 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget Alexander Gavrylyuk kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWnLdnyEjMuqfsk
@ArgerichStan
@ArgerichStan Жыл бұрын
Didn’t know this recording existed- it is excellent
@alonagrau4279
@alonagrau4279 Жыл бұрын
Кобрин...фантастика!👏
@nicolacampanella502
@nicolacampanella502 Жыл бұрын
Michelangeli...sempre ineguagliabile
@tylerstoner7051
@tylerstoner7051 Жыл бұрын
Hang the cameraman on yujas performance. Panning to her face on the most insane part smh
@danieliwuala4093
@danieliwuala4093 Жыл бұрын
Kissin and Libetta
@Coby-K
@Coby-K Жыл бұрын
I feel like Var. 11 from Book 2 is a bit worse (just from me trying them out)
@ArgerichStan
@ArgerichStan Жыл бұрын
The whole piece is insane and unplayable. Var 11 in Book 2 for me is the second most horrible for the hands, but at least it semi-maintains the same pattern throughout - what is cruel about Var. 14 Book 1 is that it keeps changing the demand on the pianist - there is a common theme of requirement bizarre shifts and incongruities of repeating note patterns between the hands but none of it really makes sense between the hands
@Coby-K
@Coby-K Жыл бұрын
​@@ArgerichStan, that's fair. Most pianists also aren't playing Var. 11 at Kissin's tempo, which I think also helps.
@ArgerichStan
@ArgerichStan Жыл бұрын
@@Coby-K Kissin is insane! I love him. Maybe I will make another comparison video on variation 11....there are some wild ones!
@Coby-K
@Coby-K Жыл бұрын
@@ArgerichStan There are for sure! I would definitely watch a comparison video on Var. 11
@adigozelov-enjoyer
@adigozelov-enjoyer Жыл бұрын
@@ArgerichStan Please do!
@litoboy5
@litoboy5 Жыл бұрын
Great
@HerwigZack
@HerwigZack 11 ай бұрын
I cannot believe it! Why the hell didn't you include the fabulous recordings by Julius Katchen. To me he is toweringly superior to everybody presented here, mavbe with the exception of Kissin. And you also left out the remarkable version of Agustin Anievas.
@ArgerichStan
@ArgerichStan 11 ай бұрын
Katchen’s recording is not live
@KeithOtisEdwards
@KeithOtisEdwards 2 ай бұрын
So . . . all the great pianists hail from the Eastern Hemisphere? Is that because the sun comes up there first?
@StefanSchneider-p9p
@StefanSchneider-p9p 12 күн бұрын
Oh oh ... Geza Anda! This is a really fine, distinguished version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKewoaOEj86Larc
@sirsamfay99
@sirsamfay99 Жыл бұрын
So Julius Katchen is not good enough to be on the video!
@ArgerichStan
@ArgerichStan Жыл бұрын
He has no live recording!
@carlhopkinson
@carlhopkinson Жыл бұрын
God-like music !!!
@danielhughes441
@danielhughes441 Жыл бұрын
Kissin is BY FAR the best
@叫爸爸-u6x
@叫爸爸-u6x 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, agree. Clearly Kissin def the best for this piece.
@normalnik
@normalnik Жыл бұрын
Micgelangeli impareggiabile!!!!!!
@sharky_spike
@sharky_spike 11 ай бұрын
rhe best ive heard is julius katchen ...hands down👍
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