Still a couple games down the road, but as a gopher fan, week 4 at Michigan State is a huge crossover division game for both teams and I think it will be a hell of a game, sparty always tough, respect.
@landonlc42 жыл бұрын
Thorne is going to get exposed this year if he keeps throwing jump balls up like that against teams who turn and actually track the ball. It's effective when you do it here and there, but when it becomes predictable like today good teams are going to scout that and be ready.
@ichiganade20712 жыл бұрын
He's gonna get one of them lil dudes injured in bigten ball
@seangarner26872 жыл бұрын
I think you're talking about the back shoulder throws. They are not jump balls. They are intentionally underthrown balls designed to beat press man coverage. You call these only against corners who are playing a particular technique, ones who mirror the receiver's movements, and don't look back at the ball, which almost nobody ever does when playing press man.
@upbeatproductions76142 жыл бұрын
@@ichiganade2071 What? Lol
@landonlc42 жыл бұрын
@@seangarner2687 yeah I get that it's supposed to be an answer to press. But often for them it's a spray and pray on a third or fourth down to draw pass interference and you can't expect to get those all the time. You can't do it as much as michigan state does and expect the better teams to not adjust and start making plays on the ball either. Its pretty well established now that on third or fourth down and 4 or less yards you can expect michigan state to throw a shot like this at you. You catch western michigan panicking in those situations where a savy veteran corner will recognize the situation from film even before the snap and look to ball hawk on that reciever especially since you know 95% of the time its going to reed or Coleman. Further, 2 of those throws tonight came right down the middle of the field and not faded to the outside shoulder-bad throws by thorne that got bailed out by corner panicking and not looking at the ball when he had a chance to and instead interfered when the reciever literally stopped and had to come back for the ball. Thorne has a tendency to spray and pray especially with Reed when he's gone through progressions and nothings there even in double coverage. Now that teams don't have to worry about boxing at the line so much without walkers potency teams will disguise coverage and drop coverage after lining in man to make plays. Thorne has to be more discriminant with these types of throws is all I'm saying because they aren't always going to go your way and can swing a game for better or worse.
@Creamthedream192 жыл бұрын
@@upbeatproductions7614 go green
@spencertherren68062 жыл бұрын
Great to have football back. Thank you Wheels.✌️🇺🇸
@Vern-ht3pk2 жыл бұрын
Westerns penalties killed them.
@RickSanchez1672 жыл бұрын
Amd their Oline looked lost out there
@tysinKO2 жыл бұрын
Turnovers as well
@narddawg27182 жыл бұрын
Proud of them broncos. Hung around and fought hard, made the Spartans really earn this one. Hopefully they can have a decent season and represent the MAC as a top 25 team.
@tysinKO2 жыл бұрын
Trust me you are using the wrong team as a gage for where you stand. Look at how many teams hung in there with State last year and trust me this year every team has a chance against State. First loss will come against Washington. Then every game in October is a loss if State doesn't learn pass coverage.
@upbeatproductions76142 жыл бұрын
@@tysinKO Washington went 4-8 last year…and some teams aren’t even close to Michigan State.
@tysinKO2 жыл бұрын
@@upbeatproductions7614 last year was an off year for them but with Penix Jr, a solid recieving core and a decent defense they are alot better this year.
@dariusdoolittle20242 жыл бұрын
@@tysinKO Michigan State wasn’t even terrible in pass coverage. And the opponents that MSU has majority do not have great passing offenses and/or offensive line isn’t good at all. Wisconsin and Penn State for instance
@tysinKO2 жыл бұрын
@@dariusdoolittle2024 they were dead last in the fbs for pass defense. It didn't matter what a team was known for offensively, they threw the ball on State because that gave them the best chance to win. State gave up 329 passing yards per game.
@timd47892 жыл бұрын
Losing Snow is brutal especially when his own guy takes him out
@timhughes39732 жыл бұрын
All the guys are playing hard, flying around ... fluke injuries happen unfortunately.
@reynclintmeilandrymusila55832 жыл бұрын
MSU Defense wild af. Bro got tackled by his teammate 5:05
@explicitcivic2 жыл бұрын
That's the play that took Snow out for the season too. Holy shit
@WadeGoku2 жыл бұрын
@@explicitcivic man 😓
@scninja07 Жыл бұрын
Conor Stalions at 9:14 in the video, wearing the WMU shirt and tan shoes? lol
@j_r_junior7 ай бұрын
🎯
@joeheid47572 жыл бұрын
Love the videos Wheels!
@garrettdelezen24772 жыл бұрын
Western Michigan’s qb looks great
@elpllc75412 жыл бұрын
You did not watch the game!😂
@ghostl11242 жыл бұрын
Nice warm up game for Sparty.
@j_r_junior2 ай бұрын
Connor Stalions was on the sideline of this game as well. WMU’s DC in 2022 was Lou Esposito. Any guess where he’s coaching in 2024? UMich
@GoatedAtNFS2 жыл бұрын
i’ll be here if ODU beats the Jokies edit: it happened
@nickwilkerson49502 жыл бұрын
Hope #23 Snow is ok defense went downhill soon as he left the game. All in all good first game lots to improve on but I see a lot more talented team than last year . Go Green
@Account-kx5vr2 жыл бұрын
Seriously??
@nickwilkerson49502 жыл бұрын
@@Account-kx5vr People love to Hate on State we’ll see who’s talking by the end of the year ✌🏻
@Account-kx5vr2 жыл бұрын
@@nickwilkerson4950 not hating, just disagree, think you had a more talented team last year, Oline losses and no Kenneth Walker will hurt alot this year.
@dariusdoolittle20242 жыл бұрын
@@Account-kx5vr No, this year’s team is far more talented than last especially on the front seven and receiving crew. Berger and Broussard looked great as well
@martinmartins77032 жыл бұрын
@@nickwilkerson4950 Lmao as an OSU fan your team looks abysmal. My Bucks will easily score 49 in the first half again. I will bet you we win by at least 28 points again.
@devinrambo90002 жыл бұрын
These guys came out here hitting hitting during this game
@Account-kx5vr2 жыл бұрын
Yeah injuring own teammates 5:05
@whogotbarslikethese75632 жыл бұрын
On the second Spartans touchdown the running back fell in the backfield 🤣
@evanbrozowski51972 жыл бұрын
I was At that game! 🏈 👑
@irvinpierre88942 жыл бұрын
#12 broken #23 leg. Hate to see and injury like this. You can see the leg the dangling the moment he stands. DBs constantly tackling with their head down and launching not seeing wtf they're hitting. Freaking broke his leg. Same thing happened to me in hs.
@topleftfromtime2 жыл бұрын
Respect to W Michigan
@elpllc75412 жыл бұрын
IDK everyone. Not a dominant performance. But things happen in a game that exposes your mistakes. More mistakes than weaknesses.
@MSU-DetroitFan2 жыл бұрын
The big takeaway I see is the OLine needs to give Thorne more protection since it seems when the Defense brings Pressure he's either running (although I like his Dual Threat Ability) or not giving enough time to get rid of it but besides that just some early season rust gives use a idea of what needs to get fixed plus I liked what I've seen from guys like Jalen Berger Daniel Barker Germine Bernard and Aaron Brule
@ichiganade20712 жыл бұрын
Yea ur O line is terrible. I rly feel bad for ur fans this year. Gonna be a rough one to watch hahahaahah🤦🏽🤣
@martinmartins77032 жыл бұрын
@@ichiganade2071 bro your Wolverines and my Buckeyes are going to embarrass these fools. Our end of season duel will be for the BIG once again.
@ichiganade20712 жыл бұрын
@@martinmartins7703 yessir🙏🏽hope wer both undefeated. After watching our opener today UofM is DEFFINETLY gonna be a problem. Our defense is MEAN this year. Bugger and faster. As long as we play JJ well be undefeated headed to the shoe. Good luck and see u in novemeber
@martinmartins77032 жыл бұрын
@@ichiganade2071 yeah I was surprised your defense looked that good but it is also Colorado state. It's also obvious McCarthy should be starting haha
@ichiganade20712 жыл бұрын
@@martinmartins7703 yea no shit I don't think 1 UofM fan wants Cade starting over JJ. He's a real threat and Cade is too damn technical. Our defense is rolling tho. Hard to tell until we play Iowa what wer gonna look like.
@GamerKru19962 жыл бұрын
Michigan State didn't play like the #15 team in the country against this group of 5 team.
@upbeatproductions76142 жыл бұрын
They blew them out 35-13…They’ll improve anyways
@tysinKO2 жыл бұрын
@@upbeatproductions7614 that was not a blowout. Did you watch the game at all?
@upbeatproductions76142 жыл бұрын
@@tysinKO Yes I did - I was there. It was an expected blowout in which they WON BY MORE than the spread, so they were even better than expected.
@mcflurry20612 жыл бұрын
i saw the thumbnail. I thought they were playing washington. When I tell you i was dissapointed
@beez.12 жыл бұрын
3:35 he pushed down his own teammate lol
@tthebeasty12 жыл бұрын
THESE PLAYERS HAVE NO HANDS!
@dsbeats56572 жыл бұрын
Honestly Michigan state didn’t look that impressive western Michigan just kept shooting themselves in the foot
@sh_cryptic40312 жыл бұрын
It was the first game they never do good in their first game its just a michigan state thing
@spartandogs31262 жыл бұрын
And Michigan State didn’t shoot themselves in the foot with a bad interception and a fumble???make some sense my guy🤫
@martinmartins77032 жыл бұрын
Both teams looked really bad.
@martinmartins77032 жыл бұрын
@@sh_cryptic4031 MSU looked great against NW last year. MSU looks like a fraud this year. Only time will tell.
@sh_cryptic40312 жыл бұрын
@@martinmartins7703 msu scored 3 less points and they gave up less points😐
@malko84772 жыл бұрын
Wheels, There are people uploading before you, step it up bud. ;)
@malko84772 жыл бұрын
Better quality too 😘
@blackconclave19622 жыл бұрын
Western Michigan was just horrible this game
@elpllc75412 жыл бұрын
No bro
@TylerGilleyTampaBayRealtor2 жыл бұрын
Michigan state gonna get destroyed by a good defense
@martinmartins77032 жыл бұрын
Maryland will beat MSU by 2 scores.
@martinmartins77032 жыл бұрын
@@Dylan-qy5tc 80 IQ retort. Try again.
@hemanths22302 жыл бұрын
@@martinmartins7703 if he's got an IQ of 80 you must be barely function because you're below that
@tysinKO2 жыл бұрын
@@Dylan-qy5tc casuals would be thinking with fandumb. As a State fan you still have to be able to point out the problems the team has such as a basic QB and a pewee secondary. Thorne is very inaccurate with his throws. We have a solid recieving core but what good is that when Thorne throws the ball into the student section on a 10 yard out?
@tysinKO2 жыл бұрын
@@Dylan-qy5tc lol or I'm a state fan who actually knows the game of football. I'm gonna stick to what I know. Maybe if you watched the game and not highlights you would know a bit more about the football team you obviously know nothing about. Dylan you are fandumb at its finest. 💩💩💩🤡🤡🤡 Go Green.
@martinmartins77032 жыл бұрын
MSU looks like a 6 win team this year. Poor QB play and a horrible defense. Freshman MAC QB doing that to your defense is inexcusable.
@dariusdoolittle20242 жыл бұрын
9-3 10-2. Definitely not 6-6
@martinmartins77032 жыл бұрын
@@dariusdoolittle2024 I think it's more likely they go 7-5 than 9-3. Wisconsin, Ichigan, OSU, Penn State, and one of Maryland, Minnesota or Washington will beat you.
@dariusdoolittle20242 жыл бұрын
@@martinmartins7703 Wisconsin and Penn State are going to get absolutely smashed by that MSU front seven. Those offensive lines are awful, especially Penn State who’s are inexperienced and were not even in the program for 2-3 years. Last year with experience was 96# in sacks allowed and was in the bottom half of the worst run games. At Purdue they only produced 3 yards a carry for over 30 carries. That’s uhhh not good. The defense also got a lot worse, warned people about how much of a mistake Manny Diaz is. And Wisconsin doesn’t even have talented skill positions that could even move the ball on MSU, they missed their only chance with Caleb Williams. Won’t even know what to do on offense when MSU shuts down the run. Maryland is going to get beat down just like Iowa did to them. Joke of a program and coaching staff. Minnesota’s turnover in personnel is too much for them. Washington we’ll see, they COULD pose trouble, but Coach Tucker will have them ready. Ohio State and Michigan are the best potential losses. Ohio State had better get that offensive line sorted out and the wide receivers. They aren’t anywhere near Wilson and Olave level like advertised
@martinmartins77032 жыл бұрын
@@dariusdoolittle2024 I will believe smashing Wisconsin's o line when I watch it. Wisconsin's running back is very talented and the receivers are unproven just as Msu's secondary is unproven. Penn State doesn't have a good o line but their defense is stout, Clifford is a very tough guy and it's on the road. Road games are always tough in the Big Ten. OSU is always ready by midseason. The only blip the past few years is getting paved (sigh) by that other team up north.
@dariusdoolittle20242 жыл бұрын
@@martinmartins7703 Wisconsin’s offensive line is not great at all, especially in pass protection. Haven’t been able to run well against stout defensive lines, which is MSU. And when Allen isn’t moving, it’s not good. The talent around MSU is much better than Wisconsin’s receivers. And the MSU receivers are too fast and talent for Wisconsin’s defensive backs. Penn State’s defense was stout under DC Brent Fry, DC Manny Diaz, it’s not at all stout. The pass rush was non existent, the linebackers were mediocre at best, no real structure in scheme.
@davidellis51412 жыл бұрын
Alright 👍 !!
@jbess_the.ningen26852 жыл бұрын
MU had their faults this game. Despite that you can tell they’re a machine of a team. Expecting to see them win at least 10 games.
@Imadawg2132 жыл бұрын
Their passing attack is going to be a juggernaut this year, Running should be good. O-line is below average but not dogshit, secondary looked average. Dline and linebackers were outstanding and unstoppable
@martinmartins77032 жыл бұрын
Lmao this take is quite delusional. Your team genuinely looked like a MAC team. You will lose 3 of Maryland, OSU, Wisconsin and Ichigan game.
@CLOS-N-PRSNL2 жыл бұрын
@@martinmartins7703 God you are such a hater 🤣 I can see OSU but the other 3 games are winnable af
@martinmartins77032 жыл бұрын
@@CLOS-N-PRSNL lol if your team plays anything like they did yesterday they lose all those games by double digits. Sorry you're incapable of seeing this with your green glasses on.
@CLOS-N-PRSNL2 жыл бұрын
@@martinmartins7703 Bruh if Thorne plays consistently then this team will be just fine, talking like we're the worst team in the B1G bruh get outta here 😂
@keaganmaranville4712 жыл бұрын
welcome to the deep end.
@Tank701232 жыл бұрын
All of the mich state long balls besides 1 would have been picked off against a good team. Not only that but a good team would torch their defense. Just another average mich state team who cant compete at the highest level🤷
@nathanbinder59002 жыл бұрын
WMU beat themselves really. It was a one score game with 8 minutes left, then they made too many mistakes starting with stupid penalties. MSU is not going to repeat their success, 7-5 maybe 8-4
@joewaller95832 жыл бұрын
Michigan state beat themselves too. If thorne doesnt throw that interception before half. And that dumb fumble by berger. Shoulda coulda wouldas go both ways. State will be fine. 10-2 season bank it. Dont let the haters speak to loud.
@spartandogs31262 жыл бұрын
If it wasn’t for the interception and the fumble western Michigan still would’ve been sitting at 10 points at the end of the game. I think it’s past your bedtime😴
@jayreese48322 жыл бұрын
Your wrong
@upbeatproductions76142 жыл бұрын
Stop they could easily go 9-3 and even 10-2 again.
@martinmartins77032 жыл бұрын
@@joewaller9583 7-5 season bank it. MSU got lucky again. Mel Tucker is the most overrated coach in the country. WMU receivers were wide open all game. You made a freshman MAC QB look good. My Bucks will beat you by 5 scores.
@RickSanchez1672 жыл бұрын
MSU fans are delusional 😂 8 wins max this season
@Fickes2 жыл бұрын
soft
@cade74042 жыл бұрын
First
@ichiganade20712 жыл бұрын
🤣🤦🏽struggled to beat Western Michigan 👀gonna be a LONG season Shart-Ons. Western was way better last year and dropped 47 on them with our 2nd string in hahahahah. Yall had to play ur starters the whole game 🤦🏽
@spartandogs31262 жыл бұрын
13-35 is a struggle??? Must be a new college football fan lol... by the way Paul Bunyan is enjoying his time in East Lansing for the last two seasons.🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫
@MSU-DetroitFan2 жыл бұрын
Classic Michigan respond
@spartandogs31262 жыл бұрын
@@MSU-DetroitFan every once in a while they have to reminded where Paul Bunyan resides
@jakekelly76342 жыл бұрын
Lil bro LOVES to talk about Michigan State. Mel Tucker owns you hahahahaha
@Imadawg2132 жыл бұрын
Wait until scUMs defense falls off after losing all of its seniors and showing that the 10 guys they had decommit this offseason give Michigan a 7-5 season lmao. Mr one hit Wonder, besides last year the only thing y’all have accomplished was going 8-4 every year and calling yourselves #1 in the nation under Brady Hoke. 🤣🤣