151110 - The new scramble for Africa’s resources - looting or development?

The outside world has its eye increasingly set on Africa. Farming lands and new discoveries of oil, gas and minerals have made the continent interesting again - not only for former colonial powers and the United States but also China and India. Under the motto “trade no aid”, Africa’s poor are to be lifted by trade rather than aid.
Meanwhile, history shows that rich natural resources easily become a curse. Instead of creating jobs, better education and healthcare, large export revenues often lead to corruption, conflict and to countries becoming dependent on raw materials.
Who are the winners and who are the losers in the new scramble for Africa’s resources? Who ensures that the fortunes will benefit the citizens themselves, and what is required for a broad community development?
These issues were discussed at a live-streamed panel debate in Lund on 10 November.
Panellists included:
Margaret C Lee, leading Africa researcher and author of “The 21st Century Scramble for Africa”
Nnimmo Bassey, was awarded the Right Livelihood Award in 2010 for discoveries about the humanitarian and ecological disaster as a result of the Nigerian oil industry.
Erik Esbjörnsson, Africa correspondent for Dagens Nyheter
Moderator:
Andreas Ekström, journalist
Introduction by Ellen Hillbom, Africa Researcher at Lund University

[@clevelandrichardson123]

Why we a as Africans and african diaspora have our own conversation among ourselves we are not children. Let us tell our own stories

[@georgemukarabemakinto-frie5034]

Cleveland Richardson She says “We”! Is she African? It is unsettling when non Africans gather in the university corridors in the western world and debate because they “are the EXPERTS on Africa”. Why couldn’t hold these debates in Africa and interact with people on the ground?

[@georgemukarabemakinto-frie5034]

I say, let’s take these debates on the continent and interact with the people on the ground who do not need to get the “expertise” in the hallways of western universities.

[@clevelandrichardson123]

@@georgemukarabemakinto-frie5034 I understand but we must know our own true history tell our own story.Through our expertise. Only we can tell it through our reality not someone else.Trust I have this discussion all the time in US .

[@joyfulsoul1702]

@@georgemukarabemakinto-frie5034 The people are not their interests at this time, as they believe that they have successfully reduced them to 'minor' status, through their 'leaders'...the Afrikan continent's soil and it's contents is their main focus right now. Afrika is so vast & porous that these thieves can fly in an entire fleet of mining equipment without truly being noticed & just take oil, precious metals, stones etc. without so much as a question from anyone who may see them engaged in this criminal act. Our bushmen, fishermen, coastal dwellers...all need to be our watchmen on the continent. But you notice that these muzungus are the ones who love to occupy your coastal lands....ask yourselves why...

[@elrededwards863]

Right u are

[@mrMacGoover]

There is no new scramble for Africa's resources, it been going on for years if not centuries after the African slave trade and during colonialism to this present day.

[@neglilet]

Africa need places like this where people can debate about slavery, corruption, colonialism, neoliberal free trade agreements more than churches.

[@charlesibekwe9750]

Thank you so much. We should stop going to Church because church is not the way please.

[@neglilet]

@@charlesibekwe9750 once a cult, religion us planted into a society it becomes very potent and addictive. The places that have the biggest numbers of religious freedom also have governments that neglect their people the most. One must look at where these doctrines are coming from and for what purpose. The only way to combat this problem I think is to go to Greece and study their literatures, philosophies and even democracy. Legend has it many of their ideas were stolen from Antiquity, we need to get back to that source and develop our own ideas.

[@sher3571]

The church is to keep Africans in submission

[@sher3571]

Church was used in OUR Native American culture to enforce submission

[@sher3571]

Don't forget how Christianity committed Mass Murder in Ethiopia as did Arabs in Sudan

[@JusLivinAXA]

As long as African cannot repel those who oppress here, no true discussion will ever be aired!

[@nexusdrexus9361]

Absolutely correctly ALL this discussion bad cop good cop, gatekeepers for colonial PARASITIC ENSLAVEMENT.

[@oseikantanka6246]

So Whiteman cannot leave Africa alone? You cannot scramble for Africa again like you did before. Black people are coming together to unite!

[@williamtukei1488]

They want minerals they cant leave as alone with their ratisism

[@DWEthiopia]

Its not only the whiteman but also the Chinaman too

[@adinkrafuotv]

3y3 as3m ooo, agyes3 NYAME no aa b3m

[@elrededwards863]

And real fast

[@robertmozupreston8304]

@@adinkrafuotv the westerners, though adopted Christian religion from another Ideological society. used religion as a mechanism to contain AFRICANS in a spiral burden, whereby instead of AFRICANS to find solutions to their problems will rather rely on GOD. In so doing AFRICANS problems will never change. RELIGION TO AFRICA WAS AN INSTRUMENT,AND IS STILL.

[@blackraven283]

Looks like another Berlin Conference!

[@pelegelareus1270]

Speaking the truth

[@sunboy1558]

This time though we are watching it live on KZbin

[@carolinedevlin2086]

Just leave Africa alone we're tired of foreign interference. We will all die, one day, sooner or later. Justice awaits on earth or after life

[@christinemctaggart7869]

Keep out you thieving people, always draining the very heart of this planet, it was the beginning of time. Cheap labour disgusting we’re still Slavs to Europe. China, India they all hate us, but thieving is ok. You black leaders need to get from under the skirts of these nations.

[@skimanization]

This is one of the most fruitful discussions I've ever heard about Africa and what's really going on. It's true that our African young students need to hear all these discussions about their continent. Thanks.

[@coachjones6104]

African leaders should go to the U.N. and walk out, leaving behind one diplomat to make the announcement: the U.N. as it stands is no longer acceptable. We have no permanent member on the security counsel. The E.U. is financially colonizing as it has for centuries. Some countries in the E.U. are holding our money. They loan our money back to us with interest. Our budgets are handicapped. We are forced to pay extra for infrastructure projects. No more. We will no longer be part of the U.N. as it stands. We say to the world: Russia, China, India and others, we are open for business. We will meet you at A.U. headquarters on such and such date. We will hear all offers and will discuss them with you. Leave without taking questions.

[@kennethmutai8110]

Thanks!! very informative and encouraging.

[@sher3571]

I am at a loss to WHY you were asking in depth issues on Africa with the blonde lady standing at your table while you had 2 Africans on your Panel😳

[@queenestherc-squared802]

13:25 I'm Congolese! This video is very informative. Thanks!

[@williamtukei1488]

France and Belgium really damaged Congolese wealth with creating wars

[@chloepearl1671]

Museveni and Kagame have created the ADF rebel group and M23 to steal your resources in Congo for over 20yrs. Why is Congo so silent?

[@Clinic-hm9jk]

This was very educational. Young Africans let’s stand up and slow down the progression of this looting. Let’s follow Dr Africana advice and speak with one voice. Fund groups that will be able to take out some of these corrupt leaders.

[@enasbadri6159]

Check African Diaspora open trade.

[@ngwejimfumu299]

If the greedy capitalist nations would leave Africa alone, she would surely find her way. How come there is no scramble for Asia or South America?. Africa has always been the prize and you know what they say: "Keep your eyes on the prize".

[@fatman9196]

i cant find Margaret C Lee book on amazon..where is her book being sold at?

[@black50736]

the new scramble looting for africa resources

[@baboucarrjitehbojang881]

This program have been aired four (4) years ago, and seeing the program today almost at the end of 2019, i see a very vast difference when it comes to the continent of Africa and those countries named in the program involving the Chinese. Africa and Her leaders of now are taking responsibility in their own hands and i think they have woken up from their slumber for those who were slumbering. There are those West African countries in ECOWAS who are abandoning the French by using the ECO Currency instead of The CFA. Now that is a great move by these former French West African colonies so that they can manage their own economies without France involving in their monetary matters let alone printing their Notes from France and many more economical devastating stages in their economies of these countries. France is a disaster economically to these countries and now they are free using the ECO as their new legal tender for good. Thanks.

[@Klopp2543]

Dude? Brother, the french leader was there celebrating the african countries abandoning France? Make some research and see who the echo benefits/owns the most/it

[@dguynightriver1797]

Give women a power to lead Africa

[@pangeapiercing]

this may have been the most unintentionally funny thing I've seen since Grizzly Man or Into The Wild. My sides are orbiting somewhere around Saturn.

[@doreenchindezwa8123]

Given all that Africa suffered and continues to suffer as a result of colonialism, apartheid and slavery, can everyone take their hands off and allow them to run their own affairs without continued interference. And stop using measures designed to always put Africa on the bottom as never measuring up yet still being exploited

[@karlosmounier4461]

Loot and our governments play a part.

[@sunboy1558]

Infact they are the sellouts Our ancestors will never forgive them for betraying us

[@michaelmoss5040]

There is progress in Africa, but it’s taking time which the younger generation are picking up on. Education is the master key though, with the knowledge, they’ll be able to turn things around. 🌍

[@alexmartey5798]

Still being looked at as a child.

[@queenestherc-squared802]

40:02 sorry but my country DRC doesn't have major health improvements.

[@hiruthseyoum5969]

Any enlightened African leader who opposes this injustice is removed from power and leadership position. Replaced with an uneducated person who say “yes” and allow the scramble but without fully understanding it’s side-effects of the agreement. 🙏🙏🙏

[@jjp_nyc]

The question isn’t about whether Africa is being taking by others, we know it has been and that trend continues. The question is: WHAT IS AFRICA GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?

[@UsikuA]

This is one of the most sensible groups who are telling the truth that Africa is being looted and polluted. Not much has changed as of December 2019. Plans have been made, but their execution and the effects thereof have not trickled down and around to all the people, thus most of Africa is still being looted and the majority of people struggling and not afforded the same opportunities to improve their lives.

[@leopoldhiggins7031]

The African people NEED to start hold the leaders accountable. Africa lacks accountability, the black COLONIZED political leaders are criminals. Africa unite, please unite to get rid of corrupt government.

[@wofakwame4163]

A quality and very insighting debate. Skill training is still not a priority on the african list. We have for long been in the economy of prostitution, where we sell ourselves and the natural resources to survive. We have also blindly adopted a system of governance that works against consensus and continuity, so power struggle in post-colonial africa is a nightmare. And certain colonial nations are ready to make a mess to protect THEIR interests. The global economy needs our resources and how long would it take african know-how to exploit these resources? Men, wake up, wake up africa

[@behonest844]

All this people here are they from Africa? Because I'm not understanding.

[@abousaho6477]

After Luton for four hounded years up to you get where you are now you turn to tell them they are poor, but all African will come to Europe.

[@mediaiweb]

Hmm! hounded year .

[@anthonyabrefa4554]

Why not talking about old criminals scramble enslave africa i means European and USA???

[@desmass1]

Ambassador of Nigeria : A French Guy of course

[@omarjallow7102]

If they can only return our resources and leave us alone

[@DABEEZ737]

Its all in the language.. Language that has been installed in your motherboard bios. Language that responds to his concepts and program sets. When children of our enslavers, those who got paid off when we got laid off, have a meeting discussing - Opportunities, leads and "cheap labour" - sound the drums... visit your oracle, medium, etc.. Wake your ancestors and ask for guidance and strength to stop him in his tracks and make him turn back.

[@plezful]

Pure evil devils

[@mayrich8996]

Very depressing

[@melanitex1089]

Stop inviting Europeans to conversations about Africa....

[@amanda9410]

What a pity. Africa why?

[@charliefennell1764]

WHY,BECAUSE OF THEIR HUE/MELANIN .

[@abdeldjamil3408]

My prod end sister no body can stop Africa never ever Africa don't need criminal people never is time to Africa strong people end would no body can kill only Africa people the kill kadhafi the kill bob marley still Africa still live strong God bless Africa only black people

[@yokbd9631]

The lady in the middle explains the problem concisely and appropriately. The african dude was just not hitting the points..I felt like he has not gotten it what the heck is happening to africa..he looks clueless and baby like ..sorry to say that smh..

[@stefanhouston9451]

How long are African going sleep

[@robertmozupreston8304]

@Jim Wam you have to know not God.

[@charliefennell1764]

AS YOU NOTICED:AFRICANS ARE LOSING THEIR MELANIN,THEY ARE GETTING WHITER AND WHITER.THIS IS GENOCIDE WITHIN ITSELF.

[@sumtendechaba9717]

What are african engineers doing! How can you go Engineering school but cannot deliver! Why?

[@mhd3066]

What I really think is that Africans need to solve they own problems because are the ones know what they really need. Is time for Everyone that is not and African to stop say or try to give such conferences........ Im a white man working for development in african countries for the last 29 years. I cant tell you after all this time what is the best solution for African problems. Europeans, China and the rest move out from africa !!!! they just still the resources etc.

[@mariadasilva7917]

Africa problem is leadership

[@mrheimdall]

These people are talking abour Africa. My question is: Where the fuck are the African people in this conversation?

[@sofiaa885]

Interesting. Were is the black man and black women to talk about Africa issues ??? Hell its looting and one African people will speak out of these abuse..

[@derrickafriyie6704]

day created icc to sentence our leaders believe mi. Men men men men

[@adinkrafuotv]

Hnmmm waka paa oooo

[@peterkimemiah9669]

What is the purpose of this discussions? Africa been discussed by those who exploit it....can it really contribute anything other then help the west examine their moral conscious and adjust it to be less exploitative?

[@cobbyluna2668]

To me, it's because they've come to realization how China is making so much from Africa and building arms. Lol 😂😂😂

[@cobbyluna2668]

And it's the fact

[@michaelraines2357]

As long as you have whites in the picture you will have failure as a people as a country as a continent get them out of Africa a long with the Chinese wake up Africans

[@joshuastephenson1334]

ineresting how he is asking this blonde hair woman about Africa and she is referring to it as "we" when her people are the ones who colonized the natives.

[@sumtendechaba9717]

You are either Africa or you are not? They need to choose and stop mucking about.

[@namasanda]

Granted, this is an old debate. But when some of these guys talk, I wonder if they know what they are talking about.

[@williamtukei1488]

All of you sit in meeting to discuss about as what are you after with sell outs Africa is not part you discusse poverty in USA people are sleeping in loss angles in streets does Africa discuss issues in Europe

[@adinkrafuotv]

Thank u sir

[@JudahAfrica22]

Look, I know this is a 4year old video but it's fair to say that if you use the discussion as a yardstick Africa need to kick everybody out and reset the dynamics conducive to the emergence of a new Africa with a single market, a single military, a single currency and an Africa without borders. Going forward, we must as Africa begin to control with whom and how we do business especially in regard to our natural resources.

[@InfiniteSpaceMind]

WTF is this hell? Whites are still sitting and discuss about Africa? With that much Attention?

[@benjaminely2968]

The gospel of go spel Africrates of Africa of artificial of Artificer Equal Tri Afric E of the Bible old King James Bible Of Ethiopian black African African American history of land called Earth of Genesis 1:10 of the Bible old King James Bible God forebeden of European White caucasoid of Slavery Proclamation of the Bible