16-Inch Base MacBook Pro vs. 16-Inch High End MacBook Pro | Speed Test

[@alexrizzo7740]

I'm here to say that you spoke way too soon about the stock market not crashing.

[@ShayaanAzeem]

Alex Rizzo yep he jinxed it

[@samandjovamusic1359]

@@ShayaanAzeem totally way to soon . say safe everyone

[@JoaquiTupas]

My thoughts exactly.. then I read this comment!

[@lombardy3274]

first thing I thought haha!

[@AW-gj4ji]

He caused the pandemic to happen, all the governments in the world believed his words.

[@nathanhopp1136]

Who died laughing when he opened the vid saying we hopefully won't have a stock market crash lol!

[@MichaelEbel]

i was about to comment that omg

[@zachhatala7210]

Haha

[@asagex]

same here hahaha

[@ald261989]

the foreshadowing

[@scottrolen27mvp]

SAMEEEE HAHAHHAHAHHA. NOSTRADAMUS

[@willdo6002]

I like how he says it's the roaring 20's without the stock market crash a month later crash!

[@PrashantSaikia]

So, basically, 80% more price for 20% more performance. Nah, I think I'm good with the base model.

[@mishalw210]

512gb is enough?

[@kimjeyong2474]

misha lw depending on what you do yeah. I have a 16gb Ram with 256gb ssd for my Software Engineering degree and it’s very good. (13 inch) You can always hook up an external Hdd if you want more space. But installing programs on hdd is not so convenient

[@PrashantSaikia]

@@kimjeyong2474 the base model of the 16 inch MBP has 500 GB SSD, so that should be plenty for software.

[@jameswrightson744]

@@kimjeyong2474 I use so many virtual machines, docker image etc that the 1TB SSD is a must + 32GB ram min for real world dev. Even then I would go 64GB ram and 2TB just to make sure it is proofed for the next few years.

[@kimjeyong2474]

James Wrightson yeah but I was talking about if you go to university and still starting out then lower specs should do fine

[@sheckey123]

Got the base model. I can run Final Cut Pro with a web browser open with 20 tabs and have a VM running in the background and have 0 noticeable lag. Maybe the full spec model could process video a little faster but I'm good with this.

[@puredavi]

Michael Schechner thank you. This is exactly what I needed to know. I just ordered my laptop solely off of your comment. Should get here Tuesday! Thanks again.

[@ajrc1987]

I was thinking of adding only 32gb to the base model, do you think it would make of a difference?

[@puredavi]

Antonio José I’ve had it for a few days and I’ve had my Sims game running while using Final Cut Pro with several browser windows open, with other applications such as Numbers, Calendar and Notes... I happened to only be using 11gb out of the 16gb of memory and no lagging at all. It did seem to get a lil hot but thee fans kicked in pretty fast. If you’re doing more than this at once then absolutely upgrade it but as for me, the base specs are prefect.

[@ajrc1987]

Thanks for your advise. I use for work, mainly Final Cut but while I’m working, I normally only have final cut and Mail opened. I’m just reading from many sites that 32gb does not make much difference yet but thinking that I’m going to do video, idk. It’s 450€ more for the ram upgrade, pretty expensive in my opinion.

[@stephenbrowne7598]

@@ajrc1987 When I use FCPX on my laptop I can get it using up to 11GB of RAM, I have also had Lightroom using up to 8GB of RAM and Photoshop using 5GB of RAM, so there are times when 32GB is needed if you are using all 3 programs at once. I did some stress testing with FCPX, Lightroom, Photoshop and then Chrome playing KZbin videos as well as some MSword documents open and the laptop used about 29GB of RAM, so I think 32GB is enough for most people. 64GB would be overkill for most. 32GB does make a difference though for using multiple high end programs, 16GB would bottle neck if you have all of those apps open and each would only be using 3 GB each.

[@kingdeedee]

"Without a stock market crash" lmaooooo if only he knew 😂😂😂

[@TheJuanOnly]

I know lmaaoo jinxed the entire country lmaaooo

[@kingdeedee]

TheJuan&Only try the entire planet 😂😂😂

[@codingraph]

The entire world 🌎 🦠

[@AH-bf4md]

I finally decided, after a long time, to go with the base model. Even though I am more or less a light user (making sheets for pupils/students, surfing, browsing, once in a while I am editing a video) but I always fared best with Apple buying hardware that is overpowered at the moment of the purchase but 5-6 years down the road... it pays off

[@dbgfwbe1497]

You did the right choice; returned the MBP16 with 16RAM as not enough

[@louna8292]

This is my point too. I will do the same.

[@enoughexpert7860]

I bought the base model 16 inch 3 weeks ago, I'm very impressed with it so far.

[@JustSayTyy]

You think it was worth the money? I'm debating on getting it in 2 weeks.

[@majesticdragonfly]

JustSayTy TV wait for mini led...

[@kwanloog]

@@majesticdragonfly Then wait for 10th and 11th Intel Cores, wait for ARM processors, wait for new design, new battery ...... in new techs world, if you wait you never buy.

[@hadifelani]

Tam Lm true that. If the wait is without any plans included we won't ever buy anything since technology will always advancing 😂

[@dbgfwbe1497]

any issue related to "computer restart because of a problem" (panic message?). If, no, which config you made it? thank you

[@Enskakuski]

That intro didn’t age well... :D

[@TheElwoodHD]

Still rocking the late 2013 15 inch Macbook Pro! Great device that hopefully lasts some more years.

[@flaminghell]

Considering my Mac book pro from 2009 is now dying quickly. Still works but start up disk full.

[@BloodshotEight0]

My Mid-2012 is my baby

[@huskastream]

Same machine here, but I think the late 2013 will not get OS update next time. Since it was on the edge of supported machines with Catalina.

[@joearmstrong389]

I’m rocking a late 2013 15 inch retina as well. Probably the most bomb proof laptop I’ve owned! Definitely a classic in the MacBook lineup! I just bought a base 16 so will see how we go.

[@1111l]

@@joearmstrong389 i have late 2013 and im thinking in upgrade to 16', do you think its worth it?

[@powerstudios091]

you forgot the most important thing, show the temperatures

[@tomsullivan2726]

Great video! I have the base and it performs like a champ no matter what I throw at it

[@DBClipss]

how about video editing?

[@tomsullivan2726]

@@DBClipss yes no problems at all

[@ElevationEveryWeekend]

Started my channel at the end of 2019, hoping I can have the growth you had in a little over a year! I am editing all my vids on my 10.5” iPad Pro. Thinking the MacBook Pro will be on my wishlist later this year! Good vid👍🏻

[@marcanthony7020]

“This time without the stock market crash”. - Hello from the future. I have very bad news for you

[@KeretaMania]

Base model good enough. I will upgrade the SSD to 1 TB. That is good enough for my 4K KZbin video editing. My current 2013 MBA is too sluggish for editing 4K video. Thanks to you, now I know what to buy.

[@bruzzofilms]

Era exactamente lo que necesitaba ❤️🙌 excelente video, me ahorraste mucho dinero! Ganaste un seguidor de Paraguay 🇵🇾🤣

[@jakehardy5997]

Unless you are doing some video editing and need the few seconds/minutes that the higher end model puts out, the base model is totally fine and works in most situations

[@huzafah_]

4% more performance for 40% more of the price

[@Willymaze]

Just the perfect video for what I was looking for!

[@lukedstaten]

Dude this guy is legendary.

[@jenarg79]

Great comparison 👍 Hardly found any videos on this, let alone an in-depth like this one.

[@passionpursuit_pro]

Great video! Great comparison! I usually watch Max Yuryev’s videos when it comes to Macbooks, but I found your videos just as informative as they are & detailed. Well done Sub & like 👍🏽💯

[@leaningtower73]

Time to upgrade my good old friend, the 2015 Retina MBP. I'am so happy I skipped the butterfly era. Maybe I will go with the base + add 32 gigs of RAM

[@philippetyan]

in the exact same position, i have the 2015, 2.2ghz quad core i7 (4th gen) with 16gb ram. can you help me chose between the 2 available 16" in 2020? one has 2.6ghz 6 core i7, the other has 2.3ghz 8 core i9... i don't really know much about those specs it's a bit foreign to me... but what i can say is that im a graphic designer, i use photoshop, illustrator, sketch as softwares. i'm not a gamer. should i get the 6 core one (cheaper) or the 8 core one (more expensive)? also, the 6 core one has more ghz than the 8 core one, does this mean the 8 core one isn't as good? a little confused... thanks!

[@LiamKowalczyk]

Moving from a 2015 13” to an i9 16” now. Did 32gb ram and 8gb gpu-should be an awesome machine to edit photo and video on

[@wingsley]

Interesting comparison video. Your includes some details (like the extreme heat) that other KZbinrs do not emphasize. Thanks for sharing.

[@eysan90]

Amazing what the base model can do!

[@KeokiDude]

What I learned from your awesome video is to buy the base model only- thanks, for doing these tests.

[@oberon2230]

This was an excellent review, one of the best ones I've seen! Good job Sir!!! Absolutely helpful!

[@cristianzapatacbba]

Bravo bravo 👏🏻 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 el primer video comparación que veo más claro y fácil nunca antes explicado 👉🏻👍🏻 muy Bien 🤙🏻 thank you man .

[@ivaaqchristensen7798]

Thanks for the video , I decided to go with base model ;)

[@rosamitchell9399]

Excellent! Thank you so much for your video!

[@oleglazarev224]

Brilliant comparison. Cheers, dude 👍😊🤝

[@HumbleD50]

Subscribed.Good luck with your channel.

[@nathaniellopez2531]

am i the only one that got stressed seeing that the macbooks were on a small ledge outside

[@simplyaguide]

Huge and fantastic job! Thanks!

[@falconthebird5582]

The intro was just like Jim sending Dwight faxes. From himself. From the future. Juan, at 9:30AM on February 20, 2020 the stock market will crash. Buy no more stock until after it recovers. Sincerely, Future Juan

[@zackzachariah394]

Your channel name is legit 👌😂

[@ac2987]

dude ur the best techtuber lmaoooooo i love ur humor

[@davidmrsmith1975]

Awesome video! Very useful and helpful! Thank you for taking the time to help us out :)

[@BornAgainFarmGirl]

And with this new decade brings me the Pandemic and a new 16” MacBook Pro 🥳 . I bought the base model with upgraded the video memory to 5500M w/ 4GB of GDDR6 memory 🙋🏻‍♀️ .

[@lucaloschi8958]

Hi, can I ask what's your usage and if you noticed any bottleneck due to the 16 vs 32 GB of ram? Thanks

[@SteveAldous]

I've got the i9 2.3ghz 5500 gfx 16gb ram and 1tb ssd £2550 off amazon, more that capable Great video BTW 👍

[@davechambers165]

This is a great help. Thanks.

[@rickyikchoi]

awesome review, thanks!

[@rohittawani]

love the vid a lot bro Happy New Year 🥳 my fav part about mac 💻 is the keyboard and speakers 🔥 but there is some significant diff in both macbooks

[@ramonisak]

When he said the stock market crashing, I was like “Welllll......”

[@5555KG5555]

Great video, thanks!

[@plugliferecords8618]

Thanks DAW lol Yeah Im Grabbing the 32 gb i9 Mac Pro for Music Production I will LYK what I think.

[@ethanherrera1552]

how’s it been? i’m also a music producer considering this

[@dac7684]

Thank you for the detailed info!

[@cookie7993]

Isn't the 5600m the most powerful processor that Apple sells in a laptop, not the 5500m?

[@WaitThenWin]

It was the 5500m when he made the video

[@edgob9910]

Im here with my early 2011 watching this video.... but I use it with logic and ssd really helped me out =]

[@tajones7905]

Yeah I'm think I'm good with the base model. It's really not that huge of a performance jump for the extra money.

[@iamflartebartfarst]

Great video mate!

[@liamcampbell2812]

Dope video man

Very useful comparative video. Great work, thank you so much!

[@romari2706]

I’m so much happier having upgraded to 64 GB RAM. I usually run 32 programs simultaneously. Flipping back and forth between them is much faster than on 16 GB RAM. And you can hold larger segments of video and photos on 64 GB RAM which speeds up processing tremendously.

[@HeatherHodgins]

I'm wondering whether to spend the extra to upgrade to 32gb of ram - all the videos i've watched of 16gb ram macbooks perform no problem - and then they always say upgrade it! I usually only have fcpx, lightroom and chrome open, I do edit videos very regularly but its expensive to upgrade the ram if I don't need it and aren't running multiple intensive programs at once - can you give me some advice?!

[@theurbanseekers4608]

Definitely one of the most unique KZbinrs I have seen in a while, Keep killing it bro!👊🏻

[@henryadams9564]

great video

[@WhittyPics]

I got the base i9 on sale on Amazon a couple of weeks ago. I gets warm but the hottest I have found it was about 112 F. If they get 100 C that will burn you. Those geekbench scores are just numbers. Most people won't notice much difference using it day to day

[@psarathy66]

We are testing two new 16-inch MacBook's before doing a rollout across our organization. Under low loads (25% cpu utilization), fan noise will get annoyingly loud. We're not doing any GPU related and more routine work such as: using web applications, debugging web pages, Microsoft Teams conferencing (audio/video) with a handful of people, Photos downloading from iCloud, Mac Mail downloading a new mailbox from Exchange. We DID NOT notice this on our 2015 MacBooks and this might prevent us from continuing the 16-inch MacBook rollout in our organization. Interested to hear others experiences. Tim MacBook Pro 16", macOS 10.15 Posted on Nov 21, 2019 11:34 AM

[@SebastianHernandez-ox6mz]

“The roaring 20’s without the stock market crash. Hopefully.” So you were the one who jinxed it! LOL 😂🤣

[@ivarsrebhuns6898]

Great video! Really helped me to decide! 👍🏻 Thank You!

[@timsandman]

Thank you Nice Video :-)

[@dayinthelife4014]

Underrated KZbinr

[@Ghvxddf]

Considering how much more the maxed out MacBook Pro is for me it’s not worth it. 80% more money for 20% more performance? I don’t think so, plus if you’re going to spend 3-4K on a MacBook just get an iMac. You’ll get far better performance for the same price if portability isn’t an issue

[@kickoff_m]

Great video! 🙏 Thank you!

[@darealphantom]

Great comparison video you're saving me a couple of bucks I'll go for the base model and upgrade to 8GB of DDR6

[@darealphantom]

@@chrisleong1046 exactly, I purchased the base model didn't upgrade anything because b&h has it on sale and it's no sales tax when I order from them since I'm in Florida I've had it since Thursday and it works well I've used premiere, after effects and photoshop all open at the same time with no lag

[@tilenletonja9651]

Really nice video

[@rcruz101]

Thank you for the video

[@eimartin]

I got the base 16inch model for the occasional video and photo editing project. I have a KZbin channel but its more of a hobby and I upgrade from a super old 2012 Macbook pro 13 inch. That was like going from a game boy color to an Xbox One X lol. I kind of wish I would have upgraded the storage for piece of mind, but I dont mind using a external SSD for storing large files. Great comparison, this makes me feel really good for going with the base model, and I got super lucky that Best Buy had it on a $300 sale for $2099.

[@timms-samour]

Amazing work ... thank you

[@TheBalkanSpy]

So I made a smart decision of buying the base model with just upgrading the 8GB GPU and to 32GB of ram on the base model. Don't waste money on anything else, 512GB I'm more than enough for installing a bunch of apps, everything else can go on external SSD's.

[@dbgfwbe1497]

Think that I am going for the same config. i7, with 32RAM, and 8GPU...enough for the future....don't need the super super fast i9, but RAM& GPU....better to be generous..right? thx for your feedback.

[@dbgfwbe1497]

amazing review, still wondering about what to do. 32GB RAM is the most have start thinking process for this MBP. would make no sense to go for 16gb RAM.

[@PolluxChung]

Looks like if I decide to get the 16" as the desktop replacement I better get the fully-spec'ed one to be more future proof. My trash can MP is still working fine but of course it doesn't hurt to have something newer to play with ;)

[@temporarymomentary]

Pollux Chung Save your money and buy basic model. Laptops aren't future proofed.

[@Zane_Zaminsky]

Data Scientist here. Great video, Juan! Keep up the fabulous work!

[@julsenroute]

jmspls7 so the base model is enough?

[@Zane_Zaminsky]

Julio F. Calderón Not for me. I maxed out everything except for the 4 Tb SSD. Fabulous performance! I work with very large datasets: millions of rows with hundreds of columns of information.

[@julsenroute]

What about a data scientist student?

[@Zane_Zaminsky]

Julio F. Calderón The software will either be cloud-based or will work nicely on the basic MBP. (Students don’t usually get into the kind of complex/large problems that require more powerful machines.)

[@michaelaramis1210]

great feedback, i do software development and had to crunch some numbers from time to time. for you guys cores, vram and ram are blood ( as it is for 3d artists )

[@Cainoid]

I still can't decide!!! Will the i7 still be good enough in future? Price range vs specs in Europe is much more different then in the US.

[@trunghoadang3710]

I think the i7 is enough for the next 7-9 years so I got the i7 one and AppleCare+ instead of the i9 one.

[@Cainoid]

Probably, but in case of you like to sell it someday it should be better marketable with higher specs

[@halfalligator6518]

it will be fine, all the large MacBook pros would keep me happy for 5 years

[@neyland94]

General rule of thumb: if you don't already know you need a maxed out i9, then you don't need it. If you need really heavy processor power for video and photo editing, you are better off getting a desktop to go with a lower-spec laptop.

[@Cainoid]

@@neyland94 absolute! Though I got the base model and it's more than good😀

[@VladMarinVlog]

great, thank you

[@axne12]

So I bought the i9 5500 today!

[@mike.golden]

I'm learning how to video edit, mostly 1080P footage but will probably edit 4k next year. Obviously, I'm going for the base but is it worth it to upgrade to 32GB RAM or the 5500M 4GB, 5500M 8GB?

[@jonathanmingsguitarcorner]

Was wondering on that too... though I’m waiting for the M1 MacBook Pro 16“

[@AwesomeKicks]

Does the trackpad feel different on your machines? I mean the matte finish and the friction or are they exactly similar? I get a lot of friction on mine.

[@TheWinterfox10]

I get that most people aren't going to understand or care about the role that each piece of equipment is going to play tasks like video rendering, animation (2D and 3D), photo editing, and such; but I would still appreciate it if reviewers would take the time to provide an extremely brief explanation what each test is doing in the systems being tested, and why the upgrade is going to impact the test. Telling people that a better graphics card is going to improve render times for Animators and Video Editors isn't accurate; that's a CPU issue, and the performance of this particular CPU isn't overwhelming. The performance shown in this video should tell artists that Apple simply isn't selling them a very powerful laptop.

[@mickeyeva.travels]

Stock market crash? You jinxed it

[@deloliilol]

What configuration of MacBook Pro 16 should I take for gaming? (no competition but still the best experience possible on macOS while having a good bang for buck)

[@michaelaramis1210]

i was thinking the base i9 with 8gb of vram and some extra ram i want the i9 with 8vram im a developer and sometimes i play civ jaja

[@ArielUghetto]

Did you test it plugged in? Just wondering how much can that affect the results...

[@SmokedHam444]

While it does affect performance on most other laptops, MacBook Pros have the same performance regardless of whether it's plugged in or not.

[@hadifelani]

So far as i know macbook pro is the only powerful notebook that doesn't have any significant differences between plugged in or not for years already. Unlike those windows notebooks with similar specs.

[@laebli9145]

7:53 what are the settings? I can't see them well

[@projectcalm5893]

I saw “ultra quality”

[@Lapache007.]

My question: You always say that the graph card is so important in the final cut X differents tests, but the 64 rams must have much importance to. What do you think?

[@aelaan12]

Great content, I will use it as reference if people ask me what to buy

[@halfalligator6518]

pure on $$ vs performance it still seems the base model is much better value (not to mention you get all the same non-performance based hardware - screen/speakers/keys etc). Really if you're paying another quarter of the base price on top you should get more out of it imo. I'm happy with my base model anyway.

[@yeon4467]

yeah i think base is the way to go. in 2 or 3 years the newer MacBooks will be again 25-50% faster then the best mbp today. I don't think its worth for a few sec in rendering to max out this laptop. .

[@albertoleon4754]

I really want this MacBook Pro but I’m going to wait for the 14in that they say is going to come out in may

[@jakehardy5997]

too bad they announced an updated 13 inch :/ a lot of people are hoping for the 14inch soon. At least they updated the keyboard though and doubled the storage on the base model! 128 gigs wasnt enough.

[@Michael-zn2jc]

I’m waiting until 32gb of ram is standard. I have a 2018 MacBook Pro so I’m in no rush. Just curiously watching.

[@MaxCaud]

well you will be waiting a LONG time lol.

[@Michael-zn2jc]

Maxime C. Lol, I have a 2018 15” MacBook Pro. Even if it were released next year I wouldn’t buy it. I plan to keep my 15” for the next 5 years at least.

[@temporarymomentary]

Just wait for another 5 years.

[@dp6661]

Good great information !

[@nefelibata678]

Hey, thanks for the vídeo! Is the 16” a good choice for After Effects? I have this computer in its base model and I use it for music production, but I don't know if I should buy a different one for after effects (lyric vídeos and some basic fx’s)

[@David73490MY]

So the base one exports in 6 minutes a FCP project.... coming from a MacBook Pro from 2015 that's ridiculous! haha it can take an hour to export a video sometimes, not to mention graphics...! that's much longer. I need this speed in my life. Thanks for the review... !

[@cookie7993]

Yes, they have improved their gaming performance, but for over 2 grand, not at all. Their base models of the air and 13 inch pros seem to be the only somewhat reasonably priced laptops.

[@DAKU_KU]

Hi, good video. I have a question. How much difference will the performance be reduced by 20 percent today when comparing the best specification CTO with the best basic 16GB/5500M 4GB model?

[@pranavnathnathan]

Any thoughts between 16 inch i7 base model vs i9 base model???? No upgrade available in our country

[@harisnoor7904]

Very very good video

[@josehvelez1960]

I have been asking for something similar; the high end macbook 13 2019 vs the cheap model of said laptop!

[@kimjeyong2474]

Jose H Velez I’d go with the higher end 13 inch MacBook because it has 2 fans -> better airflow, better Intel graphics, 2 more thunderbolt ports and a better CPU. So everything slightly upgraded I guess But in all honesty now I’d wait till they announce the new 14 inch or 13 inch MacBook this year whatever they’ll do.

[@yasirbaloshi8853]

I am using i9 with 16 gb ram and 4gb graphics card 5500 and 1 tb ssd drive..... I am graphics designer.... time to time I feel that software like after effect and illustrator didn't run very well compare to my office iMac....... I feel that I make a bad decision for not upgrading my ram and graphics card to 8 gb and 32 gb ram :(

[@michaelaramis1210]

very usefull i hink ill be fine with 16 ram, im currently like that in a 2 core machine and do it well for software dev

[@jakobnorris]

damn dude u jinx the world there

[@robertbreish8182]

Oh boy 2020....he had no idea what kind of kick in the nuts was coming

[@matt2m]

wow so maybe my best option is base cpu 32gb ram and the 5500m on education discount (brothers a teacher) That outdoor test really says a lot.

[@h.e6604]

How much is the education discount? Is it similar to student discount?

[@matt2m]

Horacio Estrada it’s OK Google Apple education to get that version of the Apple store.