The 16" MacBook Pro: It Doesn't Suck!

[@TLD]

Great review dude. Absolutely nailed it on the extra money extra GPU/RAM

[@snazzy]

Thanks a million, Jon!

[@CoucheMusic]

​@@snazzy Could you ELI5 this?. I'm a music producer thats solely reliant on cpu performance so i'm thinking on investing heavily into this one.

[@TheAcepilot123]

@@CoucheMusic I think he mean't in terms of photo and video editing otherwise don't max out the GPU ( unless you want to game on the side) you should put your money where it matters on cpu and if you have the extra money ram

[@phillipgoat00]

watching reviews from snazzy compared to reviews from jonathan morrison is like night and day. Quinn sounds like a real pro, while morrison sounds like a bad salesman. Nice work Quinn, definitely gonna buy this one to replace my macbook air.

[@dumtree3727]

I honestly really like this youtuber He is an Apple pro guy but he says absolutely everything that is wrong and he never lies Keep up the good work my guy

[@snazzy]

Thanks so much, Dmitriy!

[@JediS1138]

Came here to say exactly this. It means SO much to me to hear someone who has loved Apple and who still does talk HONESTLY about the things they get right, and most importantly what they get wrong. @snazzylabs Keep up the good, and honest work. I and others trust you, please continue being truthful and transparent.

[@kidblazer16]

facts. unlike another certain youtuber lol

[@GottZ]

he could mention decreased repairability though

[@miaoo9373]

*stares at jonathan morisson

[@WeMuckAround]

This is the ONLY tech KZbinr I can trust. Truly impartial, talks sense and backs up claims with proof!

[@snazzy]

Thanks a lot!

[@xXGamester109Xx]

FACTS.

[@shzammpatapon9865]

@@snazzy nah, we are the one who should be thanking you for the brilliant content

[@vvvictoriav5958]

Check out MobileTechReview as well - Lisa is similarly objective, enthusiastic and thorough.

[@iamintractable1805]

I completely agree with this sentiment. Best by far for balanced and comprehensive reviews.

[@snazzy]

I'm going to be in California for the Tesla Cybertruck unveiling later this week. Is there anything in specific you want me to cover and see if I can't find out? Let me know!

[@LazyPCRehab]

Is the towing capacity actually 300,000 pounds? Lol

[@mrmowgli6121]

Any thoughts on Ford's new electric vehicle offering?

[@andrewbeder51]

Can it run crysis?

[@LazyPCRehab]

@@andrewbeder51 Of course it can

[@josethemacho]

Congratulations for the title 😂😂

[@kristinabraly]

Hey, I know you! It was great meeting you at the Cybertruck event. Great video, waiting for the 13” version to come out!

[@BrainfooTV]

Really nice honest review from someone who knows what he's talking about. Now come on Apple, put an SD card reader back in!

[@onyxx300_]

this comment aged great lmao (typed out on the 2021 16 inch macbook pro, which has full-sized SDXC, MagSafe, and full-sized HDMI)

[@erickauffmann_official]

Super detailed and we'll explained review, thanks Snazzylabs!

[@snazzy]

Thanks, Eric!

[@dtdang0309]

Other KZbinrs: it's a huge improvement, a MacBook done right. Snazzy: well, it doesn't suck.

[@snazzy]

Watch the video. 😉

[@MyFriendsPodcast]

Thế Đăng Dương agreed, but he did leave out some pretty important details. Such as the base ram being set to 16gb, and the base storage set to 512gb, and included with all the other updates the device price for base has not changed either. You could argue that is a drastic overhaul and making it worth the buck.

[@dtdang0309]

@@MyFriendsPodcast for me, CPU hits 96 degrees under load is a deal breaker. But I like Apple scissor-switch keyboard so much, frankly, I still use my 2013 Macbook Air for typing documents.

[@MyFriendsPodcast]

Thế Đăng Dương hmm in the video he didn’t say this? But yes leaving out the other factors it might be a deal breaker but this is the best base model out imo

[@cxns155]

Now, let's see if they can make a real Macbook Pro 13" again.

[@BrawndoQC]

They will, 14" I guess, rumored for first half of 2020. So you will get the Air, 14 Pro and 16 Pro.

[@Dominus_Potatus]

It will be more likely 14" with pushed bezel

[@maicholaa7482]

Dr. Mercurio Arboria hard to imagine they ignore that for long

[@Benzinewagen]

Phil says it depends on the success of the 16” - effectively advising you to buy that one first to improve your chances (borderliner...)

[@jordandesigns5797]

I’m still using mine from 2012 because it was outspecing the new Macs for year

[@magnat505]

the 4x usb-c port with all thunderbolt 3 support have been a pain in the first year, but now it's a true blessing, charging in w/e port i want, all ports are extremely fast and support literally everything. Its truly amazing and tbh the best feature of this laptop

[@alanpearly]

The last MBP I had was the mid-2010 model. Loved it! Perhaps time to return to the MBP...or wait for ver 2 of the MBP 16"....

[@Lamppostout]

Dang you made my favorite Model 3 review and this is a fantastic review (I already have the MB 16" ordered). Easily digestible information, no excess in music or graphics (you hit the sweet spot). You're killing it man.

[@snazzy]

Thanks, dude!!

[@psivewri]

Great review as usual 👌

[@rafaellombardiparri3647]

I enjoy your comments! I was about to replace my pro (15.4"/ 2015) to another similar one but I am going to wait for the release of the 16" here in Australia! Thanks for the hints! Geraldo@Australia

[@rajthaker7211]

Excited. Quinn’s back 🔥💯

[@snazzy]

Got tons of cool content coming soon!

[@chloe_reacts_to]

@@snazzy can you do a video on calling and texting on the MacBook pro 16 inch please thanks 🙂❤️😘😀👏

[@blazbohinc4964]

You, my man have come so far.. Superb video quality, honesty which is much appreciated and subtle humour that doesn't pull away from topic at hand. Very nicely done. Keep it up!

[@snazzy]

Thanks so much! We hope to continue to improve. ;)

[@sakadabara]

I so happy with my Mid2015 Macbookpro: SD Card reader, HDMI, USB, MAG Safe

[@antonxtr]

Same story. Bought a 2016 pro 15, got keyboard issues after 3 months. While warranty repair, bought 2017 and again got issues after a few months of careful use. Got a great deal on 2014 Pro 15 with 1TB and 4 GHz CPU, has been happy with it ever since. Same CPU performance as 2017, great keyboard, mag safe, two 4K monitors connected directly via mini DP. USB A allows to always have a mouse stick in my laptop and not be afraid it will break away in my backpack, as was with USB C to USB A dongle.

[@sakadabara]

AVINII - I use mine 15 inch 1 TB PCI Express 16GB RAM for photos and it works smooth as a silk

[@fjodorf7341]

Yeah man. I just want this exact device with upgraded specs. It’s basically a perfect laptop.

[@timetravelvictim]

I hear you. I'm running the Mid2015 pro as well and I'm reluctant to "upgrade" for a few reasons. 1 - The lame touch bar. 2 - No SD card reader. 3 - keyboard issues. I think this 2015 version is the best version made. I'm running an i7 16gb 512SSD. I just wish we could upgrade the video card.

[@TimurTripp2]

A single USB-C hub on my 16" MacBook Pro is able to output all these things, except for MagSafe (though there are third-party solutions). The charger is plugged into the hub rather than the MBP itself. All this including charging and only a single port on the right side of my MBP is occupied, leaving three available for other things. I don't think it's worth complaining about the switch to USB-C anymore. If you can afford an expensive MacBook Pro, you can afford a decent portable USB-C hub to pair with it.

[@MVerbet]

Loved the top notch audio transitions (Laptop and mic comparisons). I don't know what you did, but since your recent Tesla video I've noticed a huge spike of production quality. Sigue creciendo Snazzy. Talento hay, y mucho.

[@snazzy]

Thanks so much, Mario!

[@JRCarReviews]

Damn now I have to wait for 16” refresh.

[@betaneptune]

Nice, and unlike many hosts, you can speak more than one sentence without needing an edit. And the pauses between sentences are perfect, unlike many of those who can't say more than one sentence without needing an edit and with unnatural pauses that are too short, making a choppy narration. But can you please drop the music? Thanks!

[@archive5195]

Damn Apple. I bought a 2019 MacBook Pro 15’’... and then this came out. Now I want it.

[@snazzy]

Yeah, my $4,000 i9 2019 is basically worthless now. lol 😑

[@archive5195]

Snazzy Labs F

[@luxembourger]

Better wait for that 4k display Mid 2020!

[@markm0000]

The trick is you want to definitely get apple care. Then send it in for a keyboard repair so many times that they just replace the entire machine with a 16”.

[@archive5195]

Mark M Not that common in Italy... 😞

[@castlehill6717]

I am a fan of the USB-C only ports on the side. I literally never plug anything into my laptop away from home (other than power) anyways. It just makes sense to me to ditch all the ports I would never use anyway for more relative portability.

[@Maatsy]

So the question is: Buy Macbook Pro 16" today Or Wait until next year and buy Macbook Pro 14" with Intel 10th gen and wifi 6

[@arthurscheffler1460]

Yes, I have been pondering this along with micro LED screen. What do you guys think?

[@iliakorvigo7341]

@@arthurscheffler1460 I wouldn't hold my breath for a µLED panel in 2020. I don't think MacBooks will be the first to get one. If we get one in an updated iPad Pro in the coming months, that would be a good indicator for the MacBook Pro updates to come. As for the 10th gen processors, it depends on whether you *need* a 16" model or a 13/14" model. The biggest difference in 10th gen is the iGPU. If you don't need a laptop with dedicated graphics, then you should wait for an updated 13/14" MBP for the massive iGPU improvements. If you want a dedicated GPU, then there is no reason to wait for an updated 16" MBP, unless you really want to get 1-2% improvement in CPU performance, WiFi 6 and a bit more battery life.

[@arthurscheffler1460]

@@iliakorvigo7341 Thank you for your informative reply!

[@iliakorvigo7341]

You're welcome.

[@Maatsy]

@@iliakorvigo7341 I actually bought this machine two days ago! (6-core, base model). No ragrets. Love it so far

[@fahimmosharrof7209]

Snazzy man I just wanna say you're one of my only sources of genuine tech news. Big appreciation,keep it up.

[@EmanuelCaesar]

Apple: Listen to customer “Wait. Thats illegal”

[@azzamashoor6509]

r/woosh

[@منيرالنمر-ث3م]

@JUS24TIN 😐u r not get it

[@petermacgregor2004]

I haven't had an issue with the butterfly keyboard. My MacBook Pro is a 2018 model. I dropped it a few weeks ago and the repair included replacing the keyboard with the 2019 model. It feels better than the 2018 model but it was never a deal breaker. Mind you, I am a two finger typist so that probably makes a difference. I would never consider a PC.

[@TechieBaby]

Why is everybody mentioning the imperfect pixel resolution scaling in 2019? MacBook Pros have been doing this since 2016 models.

[@snazzy]

Yes. It was a problem then and it’s still a problem now. I’ve mentioned it before.

[@fray2748]

@Soo What Don't hope for a touch-screen or OLED display anytime soon. Touch-screen is pretty self-explanatory, they don't want it. Let's talk OLED, Samsung is currently the only company producing OLED displays for laptops, with their only available size being 15 inches. Then there's burn-in issues, which certainly can be minimised with software, but it's still a slight problem. Final point, the price would go up tremendously, with all current OLED laptops being incredibly close to the price of the base MacBook Pro 16".

[@frykauf]

Many inside problems haven't changed though. Non removable SSD w/o backup connector (machine fails, data gone). And many logic board issues that Luis Rossmann talks a lot about. It's still true that the reliability of Apple laptops peaked in 2013/2014 and since then it's just worse and worse. In some ways (because of the non removable SSD and/or the backup connector, and ports) it's basically 2016 model with 2015 keyboard. And that's still not enough. Just get the highest spec'd 2014 model and wait some more for more reliable hardware in the future (hopefully) and get desktop hackintosh/mac mini with Razer core X external graphics card (although hackintosh-ing had become very reliable and pretty easy in the last few years).

[@michaelblack4603]

I have heard MANY owners of this laptop that says the speakers are AMAZING so maybe you need to listen to them with a better song. Also, I LOVE the touch Bar and I think they should keep it.

[@TimurTripp2]

Not a substitute for dedicated desktop speakers or headphones / AirPods, but for laptop speakers they are amazing. Apple's acquisition of Beats did enable them to vastly improve the audio quality of the MBPs.

[@mayurawate8286]

You are one of the few KZbinrs who actually put in the effort into the research, visual, quality, etc. Into your videos. Appreciate it. 💯🔥

[@SomethingNick]

I bought one but I'll probably sell it for a 14" once/if it comes out next year! I use a 2017 Macbook Pro without the touch bar for work and the keyboard is constantly breaking, been waiting for Apple to get their shit together for so long

[@TechAfrica]

What's the song at 1:38? great video man

[@Soraviel]

I'm glad Apple went back to the drawing board for the MacBook Pro.

[@snazzy]

You and me both!

[@NorthernContrarian]

It's never going to happen with Cook at the helm. He's just hungry for money and nothing more. He stated out at Apple as the store guy and he'll remain the store guy. I'm seriously doubtful that the claim that Jobs selected him as his predecessor are true, most likely the shareholders picked him so they could milk the market out of money until it fails. Ivey left due to frustration and no one talks about it. Apple of today is about increasing revenue with minimum effort. This you can see with the zero real innovation across the board. The iPhone has been the same since 6 really with a bit of glass thrown in here and there. The MacBook Pro line has been stagnant as has the iMac line. The mac pro is just a money grab.

[@dysfunctionalwombat]

I’m going to be starting college in less than a year, and I want a MacBook Pro for class. And the butterfly keyboard had me worried, but seeing these improvements eases me. This was definitely a good move by Apple. No doubt

[@MidnightBloomDev]

As a computer science student I recommend windows.

[@harmlessrebel868]

I wish Apple would just bring back the 17" MacBook Pro instead of slowly inching back up every few years.

[@DavidaThatch]

This is the least biased, most in depth review I’ve seen. Nice work

[@Charlie-xl2oz]

14" MacBook Pro 🙏

[@decomoreno]

17.5 inch is the dream for the working on laptop as a stationary computer, but then i know you can buy imac, but 17,5 inch MacBook could be mobile powerfull workstation

[@MartinNewton1981]

That OK hand gesture in the thumbnail... *you're a brave man!*

[@allentamrazian352]

Still would like a updated 12 Inch MacBook. :/

[@snazzy]

You and me both, man. It's coming back soon with an ARM chip. I'm sure of it!

[@alliejr]

I love those. Have owned both original 2015 and 2016 models. Super light. Am I the only one who both like the butterfly keys and had zero reliability issues with them?

[@sleep9174]

@@alliejr I really like the third gen ones in the recent macbook air, though mine had the shift key break and I'm currently getting it fixed. I found that the older versions just felt mushy and didn't have enough travel. Also would be really cool to see apple do a gaming focused desktop... something in a more regular desktop form factor.

[@BrawndoQC]

Indeed, I still have my 12" 1st gen for travel. Love that tiny guy.

[@gavinendsley]

0:23 i think you meant; Severe thermal limitations in pursuit of the lack of thermal paste.

[@jonathaningram8157]

Finally a replacement for my 2012 macbook

[@Pawnlust]

I'd love a non-Touchbar option too. I have long fingers and it's not uncommon to touch the top or right corners accidentally when resting or browsing the web. Since they aren't physical buttons, even barely brushing against them will activate something. I've had to customize it to remove nearly half the space.

[@garethsnaim8174]

I'm starting to think Johnny Ive was holding an iron grip and had to go.

[@darkmatter4686]

I wouldn't hold your breath for an updated 16" so soon, or at least one with significant updates... The new i9 Processor's being released soon (Comet Lake) are still on the 14nm process, albeit a very refined 14nm +++++. Tiger Lake is the one everyone is excited about as it'll be 10nm but is nowhere near release, maybe even 2021. And although Intel is promising 5GHz with the i9, that is only for *single core boost... and considering even the 16" is thermally constrained... yeah, you might see 5ghz for a fraction of a second... expect the all core boost clocks to continue to hover around 3-3.5ghz. Still respectable, but nothing to write home about for a new processor release. The one benefit that may come from sticking Comet Lake into an updated Macbook Pro 16" is AX6 Wifi, although even that won't help unless you or your organization has upgraded it's wifi infrastructer to support it... And Graphics... well, AMD doesn't have anything new in the pipeline except for the RX 5600m. Problem is the current 5500m has a shader count of 1404, and a TDP wattage usage of 80-105w. The new RX 5600m has a 2308 shader count. Yep... almost 1000 more shaders, with a TDP that will probably exceed 130-150w. You can't stick that into the current Macbook Pro... unless you enjoy thermal throttle city. What Apple need's to do is shrink the motherboard somehow by 10-15%, and use that space to increase the heatsink even more., otherwise they are already at the upper limit of the thermal envelope for cooling i9. So for these reasons, I really can't see an updated 16" coming until Intel get's 10nm Tiger Lake out the door, which "might" be in late fall, but I wouldn't expect it until early 2021, maybe even CES 2021. Or... who knows... maybe Apple will stick the new AMD Ryzen 4800U 8 Core 4.2Ghz ** 15 watt ** into the Macbook Pro 16. That'd be nice.

[@BrawndoQC]

Looks like Apple is moving away from Jobs and Jony Ive era. 2019 has been a great year.

[@TofaelTohin]

A great point!

[@Broncos14]

Eh more like a decent year so far the iphone 11 was kinda boring but im excited for the mac pro!

[@luxembourger]

Yes, a very important improvement.

[@BrawndoQC]

@@Broncos14 How is the 11 boring? It's a phone not a movie. Can't believe the battery life I get from the Pro Max, but yeah people get "bored" over a phone that does its job. I just hope the A14 from 2020 iPhone still destroys the next snapdragon and the design has squared edge from the iPad, which will probably happen now.

[@abubakrakram6208]

​@@BrawndoQC Fair enough, but people have been acting as if it's revolutionary. My 11 Pro Max is a Xs Max with a better camera and a better battery. That's good, but tech-tubers aren't acting as though it's good. They're acting as though it's paradigm-shifting.

[@Michael-OBrien]

The cooling solution is still insufficient. It still settles in the mid/high 90’s °C. They need more heatpipes. Here in SoCal, we easily run 5-10 °C more than your test environment, thus “constraining” performance more. If they dropped those numbers down to low to mid 80’s °C, then we approach a decent product. Your pro tip is spot on.

[@narayananananthasubramania1411]

So Does the new MacBook Pro get a better Doug score?

[@snazzy]

Great weekend and daily score all around.

[@narayananananthasubramania1411]

awesome i got a reply 😁 I am thrilled wooo hooo, this is the first time i posted a comment on KZbin.

[@SiimKuusik]

I am honestly still surprised that you don't have more like 6M subscribers. A recently joined fan from Estonia 🇪🇪

[@snazzy]

We will get there slowly but surely! 😉 Thanks so much!!!

[@SiimKuusik]

Snazzy Labs Linus mentioned you in a number of videos, so I had to check you out. You have his blessing ✨

[@kevinmckevinface4563]

All hail the new Magic Keyboard!

[@snazzy]

⌨️

[@TomRupp]

First you tuber to go with classic silver over space grey. I went back to silver too.

[@casperes0912]

Is this the review of the Ultimate 16" MBP or is it the ultimate review for a 16" MBP? Does the adjective belong to the entire noun combination or just the MBP part of it? Words...

[@snazzy]

Ah, the ultimate review.

[@markm0000]

English is whatever you want it to be.

[@casperes0912]

Snazzy Labs I can see you changed the title. If this was to drive more traffic, great. If it was in response to this, you didn’t need to. My comment was meant more as a silly little joking thing. I was just being a coy little bugger. I enjoy your vids btw :). You’re probably the only person ever who’s shown me Mac tricks I didn’t know already ;).

[@Dominus_Potatus]

@@casperes0912 Oh... he changed the title? Looks like he know that Ultimate means the best possible macbook, hence he changed the title

[@arthurscheffler1460]

Casper S you are a ghost of what you once were.

[@lerogers33]

I'm not really a fan of the new keyboard. I prefer the wider key caps, lower profile and even smoother material they keys are made from on the latest 2019 15 inch MacBook Pro. Another thing I don't prefer on the new keyboards. If you press hard, you can feel the metal cutouts each key sits in. I think that makes gliding across the keyboard less comfortable. I haven't had any key failures on my late 2019 15 inch MBPro, but I have only had it a few months. Last, I prefer the thinner body and lighter weight.

[@thomasalias8492]

5:35 definitely NOT objectively less beautiful. I think the butterfly keyboard looked odd and funny.

[@unloveableandre]

Your videos are always a pleasure to watch. Dynamic, great speed, well written and amazing pleasure voice to listen to. It's not about tone or peach, it's how great you are as speaker person.

[@Alpha8713]

It's kind of sad when a laptop with soldered RAM, non-user-replaceable storage and battery, and a chiclet keyboard represents an "improvement" over the previous model. Sadly, these are all deal-breakers for me (except for the chiclet keyboard, which pretty much every laptop now has, and pretty much all of which are awful).

[@snazzy]

You win some and lose some if you want a laptop this size and weight with good battery life.

[@Alpha8713]

@@snazzy True, but I'd happily take a larger/heavier model that is repairable and upgradeable. Unfortunately, Apple won't sell that to me.

[@stanleyezidiegwu7187]

It dawned on me that apple sticking with the butterfly keyboard was a business move. They had to make the money spent on creating that design. Banking on the fact that apple fan boys will stick around till they can make their money and refresh it. It's business

[@tomyork3400]

“Four USB-C Ports” but held up three fingers lol

[@leoren5128]

Intentional work my friend :) You have to connect for power.

[@j.d.5709]

Been waiting patiently to upgrade my 2014 MacBook Pro. This MacBook Pro imo is the perfect update.

[@itsjustdave77]

Apple is definitely going in the right direction now

[@portedbikes]

Apple is always going in the right direction, their revenue, if you do not buy their POS hardware they will improve it... You are getting an improved battery, keyboard, speakers, cooling, and graphics card... do not buy it yet, missing removable SSD, removable RAM, 4 K display, extra USB ports, SD card reader, availability of parts to repair and/ or upgrade your laptop... or buy it... and that is all the better is going to get.

[@itsjustdave77]

@McBossBrine Personally I own the ThinkPad T520. Good oldschool machine that let me do all the things I want (writing, vector graphics and visual design in Adobe XD). It's built like it was made out of concrete :) At the same time I see macOS users that are super happy and I have nothing against Apple's way of doing things on a computer ;) Oh and Macs are very well build too when it comes to the outer chassis. Upgrades always wasn't their strong point but if the hardware in laptop is well balanced I don't also see reasons to change the components. Removable storage would be awesome tho...

[@KennethTangCF]

Hey man, just wanna say your review is the best among all the other reviews out there. In depth and concise. Good stuff sir.

[@snazzy]

Thanks, Kenneth!

[@KennethTangCF]

Snazzy Labs you’re most welcome!

[@padlocktails26]

I prefer the bigger arrow keys, means I don’t miss them and hit the aluminium body as much

[@bitrot42]

I find that the gap with the smaller keys makes it easier to get my fingers on them without looking, and gives me a place to rest them between keypresses. Or maybe it's just familiarity/habit...

[@timothy9596]

Funny, I'm watching this on a 2019 13" MacBook Pro. I know it gets a lot of hate but I've had nothing but success with this thing.

[@vidagogo9829]

Ditto.

[@recardolugg8631]

^

[@z0phi3l]

Well yeah, if all you use it for is Facebook and KZbin it's a perfect device I use and support Mac users at work, in 2 years I'm on my 4th machine due to hardware issues and overheating, the developers and creative types that also use Macs push their machined much harder than I ever sill and it has been just bad And then there's the batteries, even after the recall we still have 2016 and 17 models where the battery will just puss up at random

[@australianpanda2713]

@@z0phi3l I mean that's just not true. I am on a base 2019 13 inch and do a ton of power user stuff (Docker, Kubernetes, compilers) with no trouble at all. Insanely reliable

[@Dominus_Potatus]

@@australianpanda2713 So... Apple quality control is crap?

[@hopefulmelancholy7514]

Love this guy............very real super chill and no BS.

[@snazzy]

Thanks!

[@alliejr]

Intel has been promising that new chip for 4 years. I’ll believe it when I see it. (And when you complain about Apple laptop performance disappointments over the last 4 years you should really throw more than 50% of the shade at Intel).

[@keagster06previously70]

they did. look at Linus Tech Tips more often. The core i9 came out like, a month ago

[@alliejr]

Keagster06 The i9 is just a faster i7. It’s not the low power 7nm chip that Intel has been promising and Apple has been waiting for since 2015. I suggest you listen to Linus less. He’s an idiot.

[@Dominus_Potatus]

@@alliejr i9 means more cores. In laptop platform, i9 = 8 cores, while i7 = 6 cores. And fun fact, base clock for i7 is higher than i9. Means if your system is not cooled properly, i7 will beat i9, which was MBP i9 had at launch

[@TechByMattB]

Wow, the internal mic is surprisingly good.

[@reddcube]

It still has the horrible soldered SSD that can’t recover any data if you motherboard fails.

[@martymclean3763]

Just restore from your one of many backups you make-because as a professional you know: if it doesn’t exist in 3 places, it doesn’t exist al all.

[@Dominus_Potatus]

It still can... but not easy. Apple and their way of thinking... I hope EU and US will pass a bill about repairing your own product. Means every brands must make the spare parts available to public

[@TheReal_ist]

@@Dominus_Potatus Even tho the EU is a cluster fuck right now with so many right wing nut cases taking control. I hope this as well maybe we can get something good before it fully collapses.

[@willielin6107]

Gee, You re GOOOOD! the best review of 16inch MacBook Ever! Keep with the good reviews, good job!

[@RandomCoffee101]

It's nice, but I'd have to start to sell meth or something to afford one.

[@arthurscheffler1460]

SPED KILLS!!!

[@CallMeChato]

When I get my 16" MBP I'm going to test to see how much better it is at writing comedy. I will link to your video for the important stuff. Good one.

[@snazzy]

Hahaha cheers!

[@JaskiratSGrewal]

Do I get this or is this going to be another refresh in 2020...

[@bitrot42]

Yes and yes.

[@re21638z]

I tried this keyboard at best buy the other day. MUCH BETTER over the butterfly. Much better travel distance and feel.

[@snazzy]

Agreed 100%.

[@TruthAndMoreTruth]

I just don't get how a "pro" notebook can exclude a fucking USB port when EVERYTHING is USB. And I've been using a Mac since the Mac SE.

[@snazzy]

Most of my newer pro gear is actually USB-C so it's finally becoming less annoying.

[@sakadabara]

The lack of SD Card reader is very sad

[@TruthAndMoreTruth]

@@snazzy "Most of my newer pro gear ..." It's been 3 years since they cut the USB port, and even you're still at "mostly new gear". How many years should it take for it to be universal?

[@LDreTheGiant]

I’m a music producer and I also edit a lot on Final Cut can someone let me know which configurations I should get for this?

[@mai-content4you]

Prod. By L.Dre get the base model with upgraded GPU and ram instead as mentioned above bro

[@TheHungeringCold]

Jonny Ive leaving the company is turning out to be doing Apple a lot of good

[@iMac9991]

Yeah really. Although he made beautiful designs, they hurt the product in terms of functionality. You could argue that his designs pushed technology to get smaller and thinner and more powerful but some things like batteries have met a physical limit (for the time being, anyway).

[@susanpratt3290]

I wish that Apple put Wi-Fi 6 with the 10th Generation processor, and a 1080 p camcorder with a Face ID option. With that said, they did a great job with the Video Card, and giving an 8 GB option, up to 64 GB of Ram, and if your budget allows, up to 8 TB SSD. No other laptop or desktop has that much or even 4 TB SSD. That screen is awesome. Apple did answer a lot of complaints with the keyboard and by separating the escape and touch ID key from the touch bar. Oh, and they did upgrade to Bluetooth 5.0. The speakers are awesome for laptop speakers. I am pretty pleased with the majority of changes, although I wouldn't mind a USB A port on each side, HDMI, SD Card slot.

[@calvingreen7197]

Cool...

[@snazzy]

Yes...

[@Joshua-tt7dc]

Thumbs up for not being an Apple apologist and calling out the useless touchbar. I too would pay the same price for a set of real function keys.

[@pweddy1]

Love the fact that you start out saying MacBooks pros weren't good! This might make you the only honest Mac reviewer on the internet!

[@cdh79]

Thanks, so after having bought the late 2008 unibody macbook pro (that worked until a week ago, when i retired it) and a mid-2010 macbook pro (which is currently filling the gap), the 16" is finally a macbook pro that i could imagine buying again.. now i just have to wait 6 to 9 months for the new intel CPUs with wifi6 support :P

[@ry6000]

This needs more views!! It’s one of the most honest reviews of the machine that I’ve seen :)

[@DogsBAwesome]

The cursor keys with the double sized horizontal control keys may make the keyboard look more slick but are super unnecessary.

[@mootsym]

I'm just looking forward to the 14". I've been wanting a 14" ever since going from my garbage 14" Dell to a 13" Macbook 11 years ago- which I still use daily believe it or not. It seems this update, with the slightly body and different cooling system, leads me to believe we won't be getting a full refresh model cycle next year.. maybe the following year? Makes little sense to put in new changes like the screen, body size, cooling, etc if they're only going to use it for one year.

[@TheJoaolyraaraujo]

I watched many MBP 16 reviews. I nailed. Best review. Show every aspect of it. Great job!

[@sphericalsphere]

Really like your work. You actually know what you're talking about and your build videos give you credibility.

[@heyx99]

I really need a laptop right now, I was so sure to buy the 13” MacBook Pro and I can’t wait cause I really need it, they should have updated both laptops.

[@makata_pro1698]

My New Macbook Pro 16, is getting slow and laggy while using only typing in word and open 4 tabs. Im so anxious by the delay of letters while typing and browsing. I don’t understand and its not supposed to happen because its new and im not doing heavy stuff into it.

[@giggyolly]

My partner has the 15" MBP, and uses it it for Premier Pro. It's a hot noisy mess! Good on apple for releasing what the MBP 15 should have been in 2016 haha.

[@Noah-Lach]

Very impressed that they not only improved thermal performance by a meaningful margin, but actually made it quieter in the process.

[@snazzy]

Me too!

[@abubakrakram6208]

Question to the folks watching this that actually liked the Butterfly board's feel: did you guys find the new board surprisingly disappointing? I went in expecting something pretty similar to what Quinn described: a taller switch with a tactile bump. But when I tried the thing out at the store, it didn't feel like that it. It felt like mush through and through. Going back and forth between it and the 13" butterfly equipped Pro next to it made me depressingly sure that I preferred the butterfly. I say depressingly because I really do want Navi graphics.

[@SkyhawksAu]

Nice review man. In fact I really appreciate your reviews because they're on the nose and honest. Keep it up.

[@andreas.abrahamsson]

Your reviews are becoming really good. Keep up the good work!

[@snazzy]

Thanks so much!

[@AthanCondax]

You're not a KZbinr covering the 16" MBP unless you point out the FAA's 100-W battery limitation. It's a rite of passage at this point; anyone who doesn't mention it shall never be taken seriously. Solid video, Quinn!

[@snazzy]

😉

[@tredfxman]

Congratulations to a solid review where all more important bases are trying to be covered! Good Job! 👍

[@snazzy]

Thank you kindly!

[@cornerliston]

Isn't that keyboard just the same (mechanism) as the bluetooth keyboard that comes with imacs and sold separately with num pad?

[@silverfox209]

This is one of your best videos so far, keep it up Quinn.

[@jessechen4971]

6:42 15'' and 16'' where recorded mono, whereas the original track inserted into the video were played in stereo, recommend converting to mono for absolute fairness...but I get what you mean

[@jskuzma]

I really appreciate your level headed yet optimistic reviews of Apple's tech with little fear to call out where they've gone wrong and also nailed it. I always appreciate your reviews Quinn!

[@snazzy]

Thank YOU!

[@FearInflictedPain]

Waited for your review to make my decision thanks keep up the excellent work on your videos man!

[@snazzy]

Cheers!!

[@WarriorsPhoto]

I am excited for this new model as well. Thank you for the deep dive video Quinn.

[@vilicles]

Great review. Love how candid you are about the things they did right and the room for improvement. I'm due for an upgrade in the next year or two and this is the form factor I'm keeping my eyes on.

[@snazzy]

Cheers!