#16: Otto Graham | The Top 100: NFL's Greatest Players (2010) | NFL Films

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Cleveland Browns quarterback Otto Graham comes in as the 16th best player in NFL history on NFL Film's "The Top 100: NFL's Greatest Players" list (2010).
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@Unidentified4
@Unidentified4 7 жыл бұрын
The single most underrated QB ever
@ValensBellator
@ValensBellator 6 жыл бұрын
Matt Sheiman Really he's just the victim of time. No one who knows him underrates him. It's a far more common problem in the MLB, which is even older, but it has certainly started affecting the NFL... seems like Unitas is too old for most fans to know much about these days, let alone graham.
@BrotherApexx
@BrotherApexx 5 жыл бұрын
Only three other QB's ahead of him on this list so I would say that he's no longer underrated.
@loganstolberg2743
@loganstolberg2743 5 жыл бұрын
Matt Sheiman I could agree with that
@Rase-iwnl-
@Rase-iwnl- 5 жыл бұрын
I agree
@DanielSong39
@DanielSong39 4 жыл бұрын
@The Anthropologist _Forensic The thing is though Otto is every bit as iconic as the names you just mentioned But good point about the lack of footage
@beatlejim64
@beatlejim64 8 жыл бұрын
From 1946 to 1955, Otto Graham never missed a game...and his record in those years was 114 -20- 4...not to shabby folks!!! He took the Browns to 10 straight championship games...and he won 7!!! If titles are the measuring stick...then Otto Graham is the best QB of all time!!!
@jufro19
@jufro19 5 жыл бұрын
Better than Tom Brady by far
@AlejandroSanchez-pl6jw
@AlejandroSanchez-pl6jw 5 жыл бұрын
Miller Mayhem when the browns moved to the nfl , the Browns were beating them as well
@c0oked638
@c0oked638 4 жыл бұрын
I think superbowls are harder were harder to win, but jesus, 7/10 championships won? thats an insane stat. Otto Graham was a beast.
@charles-andrecomeau3754
@charles-andrecomeau3754 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure that having Jim Brown as a running back helped out quite a bit. Still great accomplishments.
@jadoo868
@jadoo868 4 жыл бұрын
Jim brown came later.
@beatlejim64
@beatlejim64 7 жыл бұрын
In 1946...Graham's QB rating was 112.1. That was the record until it was broken by Joe Montana in 1989!!! He also won an NBL..(early NBA).. title with the Rochester Royals!!!
@mortensen1961
@mortensen1961 6 жыл бұрын
Jim Cushman: It's also the last time the Royals/Kings won a title.
@andrewr62
@andrewr62 6 жыл бұрын
Let's clarify, in 1946 the Browns played in the AAFC not the NFL. The AAFC was overall not on the same level as the NFL.
@cassidy2717
@cassidy2717 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew * He did play in the NFL later in his career and whats your point?
@ValensBellator
@ValensBellator 6 жыл бұрын
112.1? That's pretty incredible given the era... I imagine he had a much larger impact as a rusher as well.
@icypick1001
@icypick1001 5 жыл бұрын
mortensen1961 they won in 54 I think
@RamblinMoonchild
@RamblinMoonchild Жыл бұрын
Shula was apart of so much history Played with otto graham Coached the colts during their loss to namath in superbowl 3 Coached the only undefeated team in the superbowl era 17-0 Marino All time wins record
@UncleClaudeSportsandThangs
@UncleClaudeSportsandThangs 8 жыл бұрын
People look at the current state of the Cleveland Browns and think automatically "they suck" . The original Cleveland Browns franchise are IMO the most important franchise in forming the blueprint for the modern NFL. In Otto Graham you have the first modern day franchise quarterback (Sammy Baugh and Sid Luckman were in the '30s and '40s). In Paul Brown the innovative head coach who started training camp and calling signals and of course the immortal Jim Brown. The Browns with Marion Motley were also at the forefront of breaking the color barrier in pro football. When you add the fact that Paul Brown's coaching tree includes legendary coaches Don Shula and Chuck Noll, the Browns place in NFL history is more than secure.
@catty5757
@catty5757 8 жыл бұрын
Browns is the most important (and the best) team before super bowl era
@hoss73ford
@hoss73ford 7 жыл бұрын
yes on all of the above. It's so sad of the sad state of affairs of the Browns in the last 20 years. I keep thinking one day a Browns team resembling the '85 Bears will come along and win it all.
@dookediconti9450
@dookediconti9450 7 жыл бұрын
Claude White Well put, sir!
@theanimationlads7598
@theanimationlads7598 7 жыл бұрын
Claude White lol I was reading it thinking luckman and slingin Sammy then you mentioned them and you read my mind
@mikeandmars2345
@mikeandmars2345 6 жыл бұрын
Claude White 💯💯💯
@jacobluna305
@jacobluna305 6 жыл бұрын
The Undisputed Greatest Quarterback Of All Time. Fun fact: Otto also won a NBA championship with the Rochester Royals before playing football for the Browns. He is also a Navy veteran, so he was an all around bad-ass!
@NOLA1991
@NOLA1991 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao not even close to the greatest of all time.
@epeon7
@epeon7 7 жыл бұрын
Every year he played, he got Cleveland to a championship game. He did not win all of those championship games, but most of them. What more can you ask of a quarterback? Anyway you look at it, he was the greatest at one thing: winning
@ValensBellator
@ValensBellator 6 жыл бұрын
David Norris The Bill Russel of football.
@omarhendricks9756
@omarhendricks9756 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed David good comparison
@vader8867
@vader8867 7 жыл бұрын
Browns fan today will love to have Otto on his team!!!
@JIGOKUKIRA
@JIGOKUKIRA 6 жыл бұрын
Mal Vader oof
@shawfifty
@shawfifty 6 жыл бұрын
I still have a picture of me with Otto Graham from when I was a senior in high school (Shaw High East Cleveland. OH 1950). He was the guest speaker at an event at the local YMCA . I was an assistant coach for the team (14 to 15 yr olds) that won the championship at the Y. After the dinner the team had our picture taken by the local paper with Otto. I also saw Otto play basketball with some of the Browns players on a barnstorming tour. He was really good. He attended Northwestern University on a basketball scholarship. Did not take up football until his sophomore year. As a senior, he was named a first-team basketball All-American. Also played baseball in college. Quite an athlete.
@beatlejim64
@beatlejim64 8 жыл бұрын
From 1946 to 1955...Graham went to 10 straight championship games...and they won 7!!! That's like going to 10 straight Superbowls..and winning 7. GREAT QB!!!
@Matthew-qy7op
@Matthew-qy7op 7 жыл бұрын
Jim Cushman Yeah, it's not. The AAFC was a garbage league with one great team. The only reason the merger took place is because the Browns were so good.
@andrewr62
@andrewr62 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say it was a garbage league. Look at the NFL All Star roster after the merger. Tons of AAFC players.
@RylzMunkister
@RylzMunkister 6 жыл бұрын
Tyler G Great argument! Superbowls are Waaaaay harder to get to bud.
@xTheFak3OG
@xTheFak3OG 6 жыл бұрын
This was pre salary cap. It’s way harder now
@tonyanthonyfowler
@tonyanthonyfowler 6 жыл бұрын
greatest QB of all time....nobody realizes it, I always tell my friends but they're like "Yeah whatever"
@conradyo9274
@conradyo9274 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't know he could run it that well. He really is phenomenal. He could play today and dominate.
@eliduttman315
@eliduttman315 4 жыл бұрын
@Damien Jones Graham was a Single Wing Tailback in college at Northwestern. That requires both passing and running ability. Among today's professionals, Taysom Hill of the Saints and Lamar Jackson of the Ravens have SWTB tools.
@tomfreese5190
@tomfreese5190 5 жыл бұрын
I think Otto definitely belongs in the top ten. He is very underrated. Great athlete and winner.
@jasonrichards1117
@jasonrichards1117 5 жыл бұрын
The most underrated QB of all time!!!!!
@nobodyaskedbut
@nobodyaskedbut 5 жыл бұрын
Not only the GQBOAT but a top 10 all-time American athlete. All-American in both college football and basketball. Held baseball records at Northwestern until a few years ago. Won a pro basketball championship in 1946. Also, up until a couple of years ago held all-time record for rush TDs for a pro QB.
@stevefowler2112
@stevefowler2112 7 жыл бұрын
My late father grew up just south of Cleveland and he's always maintained Otto's passing prowess was better than any of the modern QB's he ever saw...he used to say Otto had the perfect long ball that would come down like a rainbow right in the receivers outstretched hands, impossible to defense.
@jeffryhammel13
@jeffryhammel13 6 жыл бұрын
Hell ya. Otto and Sammy def had that perfect floating attribute. I consider them even better today because of new tech and better receivers. In Sammy's case, he had that fatter ball to heave. Both of 'em great in any era.
@nobodyaskedbut
@nobodyaskedbut 7 жыл бұрын
He was the greatest QB of all-time and it isn't close. He played in 10 straight title games and won 7. He led his league in passer rating 5 times. Until last year he held the all-time record for rushing TDs by a pro QB with 44. His all-time record for career passing YdsPerAtt is a staggering 9.0 (most coaches will tell you this is the most telling pass stat). In his last pro game which was the NFL championship he ran for 2 TDs and passed for 2 TDs in leading the Browns over the Rams 38-14. Graham was at the very top as a passer, ball carrier, playmaker, leader and winner. One cannot come close to making that statement about any other pro QB.
@quinton01
@quinton01 3 жыл бұрын
Otto Graham's skillset looks so modern.
@detroitandclevelandfan5503
@detroitandclevelandfan5503 Жыл бұрын
He was ahead of his time, that's for sure.
@johngrant5388
@johngrant5388 5 жыл бұрын
Otto Graham an excellent case for Greatest Professional Quarterback Ever! 10 Seasons Played and in the Championship Game Every Year! Otto won 7 of those Championship Games!
@ValensBellator
@ValensBellator 6 жыл бұрын
He was basically the Bill Russell of football.
@jacktheripoff1888
@jacktheripoff1888 7 жыл бұрын
He retired after the '54 season, and when the QB Brown was going to go with in '55 got hurt in summer camp Brown asked him to come back. Initially he said no but Brown said he'd make him the highest paid player in the NFL for the year if he would do so and Otto agreed. Brown asked him not to tell anyone what he was getting paid. His salary for the '55 season was $25.000.
@tonnis3468
@tonnis3468 4 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Don Shula
@alfonsocarnucci3982
@alfonsocarnucci3982 3 жыл бұрын
Favorite Dolphin, Colt, Redskin, and Brown of all time
@davelawson1406
@davelawson1406 Жыл бұрын
He should be rated #1 no other qb took there team to 10 consecutive titles or championships games
@williamford9564
@williamford9564 4 жыл бұрын
10 seasons, 10 Championship games. I can't see how he is not in the Top 10.
@jefferykovacs4211
@jefferykovacs4211 2 жыл бұрын
The greatest period!
@PtolemyJones
@PtolemyJones 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, Don Shula, he would be in the argument for best coaches of all time in my book.
@impassable
@impassable 7 жыл бұрын
Did you know he was the the guy the refs reported to on Monday...Im serious he was...Even when he was coaching, he was their supervisor, can you imagine that now, like if Andy Reid was the guy in charge of the officials...I remember when the Dolphins would play the Jets, you could always count on big calls against the Jets when Miami needed one, because those refs had to report to Shula the next morning.That's back when you could call holding and not have to name the number of the player..That's the truth
@PtolemyJones
@PtolemyJones 7 жыл бұрын
I thought you 'fake news guys' were getting shut down, clearly not...
@stevefowler2112
@stevefowler2112 7 жыл бұрын
@impass...you are incorrect...he was head of the NFL competition committee, the ref's did not "report to him".
@RyanLBrown9396
@RyanLBrown9396 5 жыл бұрын
PtolemyJones He wouldn’t be in the argument. He IS the argument
@jeremythompson9122
@jeremythompson9122 4 жыл бұрын
@Harry Engel Gibbs was great. 3 Super Bowl wins with 3 different QB's...2 of whom were just journeyman QB's Doug Williams and Mark Rypien. The Skins always had a great offensive line and receiving core. Art Monk is one of the best who ever played. Darrell Green was the main guy on D and one of the best corners ever
@drlee2
@drlee2 6 жыл бұрын
The Cleveland Browns used to be the Patriots! lol
@jackoff1826
@jackoff1826 2 жыл бұрын
...the Patriots used to be the Cleveland Browns as well haha
@stevefowler2112
@stevefowler2112 7 жыл бұрын
My Dad grew up in Kent and used to tell me stories about Otto Graham throwing those beautiful rainbow bombs with the ball coming down right in the wr's outstretched hands...Otto put such air under his long throws they were impossible to defend....he may be the best QB in NFL history.
@Big.Deez1999
@Big.Deez1999 3 жыл бұрын
Greatest quarterback over the last 100 years. No doubt.
@NOLA1991
@NOLA1991 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@nickstah9184
@nickstah9184 Жыл бұрын
No that’s tb12
@Big.Deez1999
@Big.Deez1999 Жыл бұрын
@@nickstah9184 Bullsh*t
@nickstah9184
@nickstah9184 Жыл бұрын
@@Big.Deez1999 na
@Big.Deez1999
@Big.Deez1999 Жыл бұрын
@@nickstah9184 yah
@gutsdw
@gutsdw 3 жыл бұрын
Tom Brady won 7 rings in 20 years Otto Graham won 7 rings in 10 years Both Won 3 MVPs and Both redefined what a winner was
@mikekole
@mikekole 2 жыл бұрын
Therefore, Graham is the GOAT
@happybeingmiserable4668
@happybeingmiserable4668 Жыл бұрын
Only Otto wasn’t suspended 4 games for cheating
@mr1234567899111
@mr1234567899111 Жыл бұрын
The definition of winning 😊
@bigdog1648
@bigdog1648 6 жыл бұрын
The greatest QB of all time. Period.
@caponekingpinking9917
@caponekingpinking9917 4 жыл бұрын
Montana .
@ExchantedGammerPro
@ExchantedGammerPro 4 жыл бұрын
Brady
@paulpeter8435
@paulpeter8435 5 жыл бұрын
While waiting for his first season to play with the browns, he played basketball for the Rochester royals (Sacramento Kings now) and won a championship with them, so 11 championships in 10 seasons, or a 110% success rate.
@poseidon699
@poseidon699 5 жыл бұрын
This dude got 90+ truck in madden 19 as a qb 😂😂
@user-zx8de8op9l
@user-zx8de8op9l 9 ай бұрын
I am from the same town as Otto Graham, Waukegan IL, my dad always told me how great he was. He was on the wall of fame of the high school.
@RiseOfThePhoenix30
@RiseOfThePhoenix30 2 жыл бұрын
Had my Grandfather been a few years younger we would have been an All American Guard for Otto at Northwestern...he always wondered what they could have been
@ivanmontes9645
@ivanmontes9645 3 жыл бұрын
Beyond I'm a Packer's fun, I have to recognize that Tom Brady is one of the greatest players in the NFL history. As far as I'm concerned, if we talk about quarterbacks, he's only next to Otto Graham on the top of the NFL history. Greetings for all of you NFL fanatics around the world, from Quilmes Buenos Aires.
@srpskiponos8726
@srpskiponos8726 6 жыл бұрын
People need to understand that with out Otto Graham, there is no Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Bart Starr, Terry Bradshaw ect.
@srpskiponos8726
@srpskiponos8726 4 жыл бұрын
ExchantedGamer I don't care about NFL or AAFC or how many rings what QB has. You completely misunderstood my entire statement. I'm saying Otto Graham paved the way for winning QB's including Tom Brady, who i personally love as a QB. I'm saying give respect to the guy who started the road for elite QB's
@ExchantedGammerPro
@ExchantedGammerPro 4 жыл бұрын
Horror Fan87 yea but I’m just sayin like how can they compare Otto to Brady but when you actually realize players from back then wouldn’t even fit with the players today actually
@mikeythegreatable
@mikeythegreatable 2 жыл бұрын
god I wish there was no terry bradshaw
@richnoll1967
@richnoll1967 6 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna say this once and maybe again but Greatest qb ever
@dynastyinc.madden7128
@dynastyinc.madden7128 8 жыл бұрын
Greatest QB of all time. Show me another who's been to 10 straight title games and won 7
@edwinasas5075
@edwinasas5075 8 жыл бұрын
If he played now he would be average and he played when there was a lot less skill but he is still great
@TheOscar401
@TheOscar401 8 жыл бұрын
are you serious? he played in a defense dominated era so he would be breaking records if he played today
@maggsmvp04
@maggsmvp04 8 жыл бұрын
Ummm, there were only 12 teams during that time. Hardly much competition. Please stop comparing players from the 50's to current players. It's a useless argument.
@beatlejim64
@beatlejim64 8 жыл бұрын
You mean like the watered down version of the NFL today?
@edwinasas5075
@edwinasas5075 8 жыл бұрын
Jim Cushman ppl nowadays would be legends back then they are bigger faster stronger in better shape and smarter
@vance917
@vance917 5 жыл бұрын
Very classy Coast Guard man. Took the time to write back to me when I sent him a letter when I was a kid.
@Fireyninjadog
@Fireyninjadog 2 жыл бұрын
As a steelers fan, even I think he's an all time great
@nobodyaskedbut
@nobodyaskedbut 3 жыл бұрын
It's not entirely impossible to equally evaluate performers from different eras because none of them played in a vacuum or totally isolated. Here's what I mean. Graham played 8 seasons in the same league as Y. A. Tittle; Tittle played 9 yrs with Unitas; Unitas played 13 yrs w/ Tarkenton; Tarkenton played 10 yrs w/ Staubach; Staubach played 7 yrs w/ Fouts; Fouts 9 yrs w/ Montana; Montana 12 yrs w/ Marino; Marino 9 yrs w/ Favre; Favre 11 yrs w/ Brady. The game changes gradually and many diverse players are there for many of those changes. As I have said often on these forums Graham didn't play 300 years ago. Not only that but he is linked directly or indirectly to at least some degree to all the QBs that came after him. In his case even more than all the others because he is by far most responsible for the creation of the modern T-formation QB position.
@Comickid15
@Comickid15 5 жыл бұрын
Greatest QB of all time. The haters can try to talk down his accomplishments all they want with the "AAFC wasn't a real league" and "not many teams," I don't care. 10 straight title games, 7 titles won. NOBODY has matched that and nobody probably ever will, although Brady's coming close to that 2nd goal.
@ExchantedGammerPro
@ExchantedGammerPro 4 жыл бұрын
Comickid15 but there right tho the AAFC didn’t even last long
@lucycollins4835
@lucycollins4835 Жыл бұрын
Its funny that people would say that the Browns were just a good minor league team. Did players like Otto Graham, Marion Motley, Dante Lavelli, Mac Speedie, Bill Willis, etc.just suddenly become great players in 1950 after Cleveland entered the NFL.
@nobodyaskedbut
@nobodyaskedbut 5 жыл бұрын
The biggest difference between Graham and Brady is their athletic and football ability. Graham was already a legend before he ever played a down in pro football. He was an all-American in both football and basketball & won a pro basketball championship in the spring of 1946. On the football field there was an even greater difference between them in that Graham was a supreme play maker & ball carrier. Up until a couple of years ago he held the all-time record for rushing TDs by a pro QB (44). He also finished his career with 7 interceptions as a DB including 5 in his very first season of 1946. Oh and then there's this. He and his incomparable coach Paul Brown created both the modern T-formation QB position and the modern pro offense which have been just only copied ever since. As for his passing prowess. Well he still holds the all-time career record for Y/A at an incredible 9.0 which is 1.5 higher than Brady's and even though he played in the 1940s&50s his career passer rating is higher than the following QBs: Marino, Favre, Aikman, Elway, Kelly, McNabb, Newton, Flacco, Moon & E. Manning who all played the majority of their careers in the 90s or later.
@thetf8142
@thetf8142 5 жыл бұрын
From 46-55, Otto averaged 1.8 losses a season..... what the hell
@aitortilla5128
@aitortilla5128 5 жыл бұрын
He won like 7 or 8 titles. He should be higher. In football (European) titles won decades ago or even a century ago are taken into account. In American Football people shouldn't forget players like him or Sammy Baugh. Thanks to them the sport is what it is today.
@ExchantedGammerPro
@ExchantedGammerPro 4 жыл бұрын
He actually won 3 NFL Championship tho
@tubularbill
@tubularbill 3 жыл бұрын
GOAT
@davidsieradzki3794
@davidsieradzki3794 6 жыл бұрын
As a 49ers fan, I'll admit to being biased towards Joe Montana. However, if I had to pick a second best QB of all-time behind Joe Cool, Otto Graham would get my vote.
@RyanLBrown9396
@RyanLBrown9396 3 жыл бұрын
Which makes sense since Walsh comes from the Paul Brown coaching tree
@coachmcguirk6297
@coachmcguirk6297 3 жыл бұрын
He also won a basketball championship at the professional level before going to the browns.
@ScottysBackYardBBQ
@ScottysBackYardBBQ 5 жыл бұрын
otto the goat
@justinreynolds7372
@justinreynolds7372 3 жыл бұрын
He has the Highest Qb winning percentage in NFL History 82%. He was the originator of being a winning quarterback in the NFL.
@BruinsBeatCanucks
@BruinsBeatCanucks 4 жыл бұрын
These old guys were EXTREMELY athletic and intelligent... considering they didn't have the same training offered today
@jeffryhammel13
@jeffryhammel13 6 жыл бұрын
Damn. Otto Graham, Jimmy Brown, ect. 10 straight playoffs under Otto. And he looks way better than any Cleveland QB in the last 5 decades. Gotta irk the present Brown fans with "what once was".
@jakebutnotfromstatefarm6044
@jakebutnotfromstatefarm6044 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if this is me doubting the skill of the NFL in the early days but Otto looks so ahead of his time. About 30 years ahead of his time.
@nobodyaskedbut
@nobodyaskedbut 5 жыл бұрын
This is how good Graham was. Despite playing in the 1940s&50s his career passer rating is higher than the following QBs: Marino, Elway, Aikman, Bradshaw, Moon, Favre, Simms, McNabb, Kelly, E. Manning, Newton & Flacco.
@tomryan914
@tomryan914 5 жыл бұрын
...and Johnny Football !
@wakawaka1976
@wakawaka1976 5 жыл бұрын
At quarterback number 60 Otto Graham! He also wore 14 but seeing #60 at QB is pretty sweet.
@hunterrgntr
@hunterrgntr Жыл бұрын
I have always wanted the #60 Cleveland Browns Otto Graham throwback.
@sammyvh11
@sammyvh11 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Baltimore Im 62 and my dad a Bmore Colts diehard always said this guy was better then Unitas but coach Brown never opened it up for him. The 49 Browns may have been the best pro team of all time. No weakness and tons of depth.
@minniemousegaming9653
@minniemousegaming9653 7 жыл бұрын
Being a qb #60 is a privilege
@shldnfr
@shldnfr 5 жыл бұрын
That was his number when the Browns were in the AAFL. When the team joined the NFL he had to change his number and wore #14.
@nobodyaskedbut
@nobodyaskedbut 5 жыл бұрын
To further clarify the quality of the game back in that time. Jim Brown who's rookie season was 1957 (2 years after Graham's retirement) was both bigger and faster than than W. Payton & E. Smith. Smith's final season was in 2004. BTW, more teams and players means weaker competition, not better. That's because the level of quality has to be lowered to fill all those extra rosters. Also consider that in those days the top college players played both O & D which allowed them to really learn how to play the game.
@luigis.5671
@luigis.5671 Жыл бұрын
A running back that Paul Brown turned into a quarterback. All I hear about these days is “ in the new NFL you need to have a dual threat quarterback.” I’m not sure there is anything new. Sounds like Otto Graham was the first dual threat quarterback. I have always been a Cowboys fan, so Roger Staubach has always been my favorite. But I remember learning about Otto Graham and how many titles he won. Seven in 10 years. Wow! Maybe he is the best quarterback ever! It makes me wonder if that’s the reason Tom Brady is trying for number 8.
@ronniecozzi8385
@ronniecozzi8385 4 жыл бұрын
If you measure QBs by 'Super Bowl' wins Graham is the greatest.
@elinovak3770
@elinovak3770 6 жыл бұрын
a man that sits on the kings throne
@RGsmokinthathunnitHMNdawgpound
@RGsmokinthathunnitHMNdawgpound 8 жыл бұрын
otto graham when to 10 straight championship aka superbowls if it count better than any steelers qb combine
@BlitzinLB27
@BlitzinLB27 8 жыл бұрын
lolz
@Cardiaccat98
@Cardiaccat98 8 жыл бұрын
at their worst, they still went to the championship
@THeRavEnsFan25
@THeRavEnsFan25 8 жыл бұрын
He won 7, not 3.
@THeRavEnsFan25
@THeRavEnsFan25 8 жыл бұрын
3-time NFL champion, 4-time AAFC champion. 7 time champion.
@user-uk1kw4vn6v
@user-uk1kw4vn6v 8 жыл бұрын
Better than any franchise's history foh
@profr.smancera363
@profr.smancera363 Жыл бұрын
To me the real Greatest One.
@TonyMontana-tt7lc
@TonyMontana-tt7lc 3 жыл бұрын
THE G.O.A.T.
@ValensBellator
@ValensBellator 5 жыл бұрын
Otto Graham was basically the Bill Russel of the NFL lol
@tracykenerson9446
@tracykenerson9446 4 жыл бұрын
Don Shula
@yourmom-ur4zt
@yourmom-ur4zt 7 жыл бұрын
how underrated are defenses from the 40's and 50's? everyone thinks they were so bad.. have you seen the giants, rams defenses from those time periods? One of the best defenses of all time
@kvltizt
@kvltizt 6 жыл бұрын
They were great for their time, but they would be small and slow compared to even the worst NFL defenses of today. Although they'd probably still be tougher men solely based on how little rules and protections there were in the game back then. lol
@ValensBellator
@ValensBellator 6 жыл бұрын
Most everyone was underrated. People seem to believe no one knew how to pass until the 70's, but when you watch footage of players like Otto, Unitas, even Sammy Baugh before them and you'll see step backs, pump fakes, and perfect spirals on long bombs. The difference really was that the average team was much less impressive, there was less talent numbers-wise to compete for positions, and a few teams would outspend the rest, but the peak players were still superb.
@kvltizt
@kvltizt 5 жыл бұрын
@To Release is To Resolve I know, modern players can only be modern because of the guys before them.
@DanielSong39
@DanielSong39 8 жыл бұрын
#16 is way too low.
@mikeandmars2345
@mikeandmars2345 6 жыл бұрын
DanielSong39 yesss
@jeffryhammel13
@jeffryhammel13 6 жыл бұрын
For living over a decade in Cleveland, Otto should be at least top 5.
@BuddhaLove77
@BuddhaLove77 6 жыл бұрын
jeffry hammel At least!!! With the rules we have in place today Graham would even be better!!!
@acewilliams7917
@acewilliams7917 6 жыл бұрын
+jeffry hammel Number one of quarterbacks and top 5 in players.
@srpskiponos8726
@srpskiponos8726 7 жыл бұрын
I think Bart Starr and Otto Graham are the 2 greatest QBs ever.
@kvltizt
@kvltizt 6 жыл бұрын
I think Johnny Unitas takes both of them to school, and then Brees/Brady/Marino take Unitas to school.
@eliduttman315
@eliduttman315 5 жыл бұрын
@@kvltizt I think Unitas is the GoAT. An extra coach in the huddle who called his own plays, Unitas INVENTED the 2 minute drill. The man was physically and mentally tough and made ALL the throws. Show me where Brees/Brady/Marino block. Unitas regularly called a reverse that required him to block a LB. He loved the contact and there's film footage somewhere of him "pancaking" a LB. To tell the truth, giving any of Baugh, Luckman, Graham, and Unitas access to today's training, nutrition, and sports medicine would result in shredded contemporary defenses, just like they did in their own time. "Cream rises!"
@kvltizt
@kvltizt 5 жыл бұрын
@@eliduttman315 You are right, I think. I still gotta go with Marino on pure arm talent or Manning for coaching a huddle. Unitas changed the game though. He is why those guys existed. 👍
@kvltizt
@kvltizt 5 жыл бұрын
@JL-CptAtom Maybe I meant Eli Manming clutchly destroying the Pats in two out of two Super Bowl match ups? But seriously, Peyton Manning's ability to orchestrate is legendary and unquestionable. He was a second offensive coordinator more or less.
@jelly7310
@jelly7310 4 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that Otto wore # 60.
@sheastadium2008
@sheastadium2008 7 ай бұрын
Love how Mad Dog is passing everybody of when he mentions this man's name.
@the_grim_saint
@the_grim_saint 7 жыл бұрын
#GoBROWNS💪🐶🏈
@anthbig
@anthbig 7 жыл бұрын
Tom Brady can't carry Otto's jockstrap!
@leaffdaugherty21
@leaffdaugherty21 6 жыл бұрын
anthbig although in the Super Bowl area. He is the most qualified lol
@PewGoBoomLife
@PewGoBoomLife 6 жыл бұрын
Actually when it comes to modern Terms Otto would have surpassed much more. In a era when QB's cant be touched Otto would have been called beast mode QB! Remember at the during the old school era you would take hits that would draw a 100000000 flags in today's game.
@JSSTyger
@JSSTyger 6 жыл бұрын
What do you expect, Tom Brady can't even catch a football, let alone hold a jock strap.
@RyanLBrown9396
@RyanLBrown9396 5 жыл бұрын
JSSTyger But he can win 6 rings.
@brandonviirre5066
@brandonviirre5066 5 жыл бұрын
@@RyanLBrown9396 and it looks like rhey may get another this season
@craigwilson3532
@craigwilson3532 2 жыл бұрын
Those are some pretty passes
@nobodyaskedbut
@nobodyaskedbut 4 жыл бұрын
Otto Graham & Jim Brown are the only two players in pro football history to accomplish all of the following during their careers: (1) Play every game and lead their team to a winning record in each and every season of the career. (2) Average the equivalent of 1 TD (rush TD = 1 TD / TDP & TDR = 1/2 TD) per scheduled career game. (3) Finish their career with a career average of over 8.0 pass Y/A at QB or over 5.0 rush Y/A at RB. These achievements put both of them head & shoulders above all other players in pro football history. In case you are wondering, Tom Brady won't match any of the 3 accomplishments.
@jjt218
@jjt218 7 жыл бұрын
Otto Graham is one of the best Nfl Qbs in Nfl history.
@davidduffy2046
@davidduffy2046 7 жыл бұрын
The Best
@Timelyxx
@Timelyxx 4 жыл бұрын
Rip Don Shula
@Saphy_Bagel
@Saphy_Bagel 4 ай бұрын
Barry Sanders invented the juke. There will never be a twitchier more electrifying running back in our life time. Had he stuck around for another 2-3 seasons he would've put the career rushing record mark well out of reach of anyone for the next 100 years.
@thecommentator3842
@thecommentator3842 3 жыл бұрын
If he played in the NFL today he’d be the best QB of all time and i very much believe that
@NOLA1991
@NOLA1991 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@yosefshekelberg5433
@yosefshekelberg5433 2 жыл бұрын
@@NOLA1991 you're laughing but he'd have access to the nutrition and PEDs that everyone else is these days. He'd definitely be starting quality.
@NOLA1991
@NOLA1991 2 жыл бұрын
@@yosefshekelberg5433 Not at all. The game was elementary back then compared to now.
@nobodyaskedbut
@nobodyaskedbut 2 жыл бұрын
@@NOLA1991 You sound foolish, it's not brain surgery. Graham & Paul Brown created the modern T-formation QB position & the modern pro offense. They have only been copied ever since.
@NOLA1991
@NOLA1991 2 жыл бұрын
@@yosefshekelberg5433 Anyone with a brain would know he wouldn't stand a chance in today's league
@hendrixtimestwo
@hendrixtimestwo 4 жыл бұрын
The original "not bad for a running back" haha. What a legend
@jackoff1826
@jackoff1826 2 жыл бұрын
Until you look his stats up and realize that he averaged about 88 yards per season running the ball, and never had any more than 146 yards rushing in a season.
@ballhawk387
@ballhawk387 4 жыл бұрын
A 21st century QB playing in the mid 20th century. The forerunner of modern quarterbacking. Look at other films of the era, and it's striking how ahead of his time he was. As far as I'm concerned the GOAT is either him or Brady.
@Rase-iwnl-
@Rase-iwnl- 5 жыл бұрын
Otto graham is the best quarterback ever in history 🙌HANDS DOWN
@NOLA1991
@NOLA1991 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@JohnSmith-op1tc
@JohnSmith-op1tc 6 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if Dabbs Greer was playing Paul Brown in the movie clip shown here?
@raycasta10
@raycasta10 Жыл бұрын
No way he is 16 on that list. He can absolutely play in todays game
@toddm9501
@toddm9501 24 күн бұрын
A fitting place. Some will disagree. Otto is the Bob Gainey in NHL terms. People forget how great.
@ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
@ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987 11 ай бұрын
Automatic Otto Graham is a winner one of if not the greatest underrated players ever period like let's be honest here
@CoreyThinkin
@CoreyThinkin 3 жыл бұрын
He had some trickiness to his game.
@davidabney7700
@davidabney7700 5 жыл бұрын
Of course most of the great records set by NFL players in pre-1980 times have been broken by a "cursed" NFL Rule changes. These damn changes changed the face of pro football to what we view today as pro football. All of the old NFL records were broken, quick and fast, from these rules changes that favored the offense! These super great players of the past, like Graham and so many other record setters of the past, NEVER played under the current NFL rules! Defenses were much tougher to score against under the old rues! That's what made Graham's efforts so super! Not taking nothing from todays players, whom I don't watch, they just didn't play under the conditions and rules of old NFL. I love these pro football videos of the past, because that's where my love for pro football resides! Not todays NFL! Not the unpatriotic attitude of many NFL players today, not in this period of million dollar spoiled unpatriotic players! Never for myself! The fans themselves are to blame for supporting these players by their attendance at the games. You would NEVER catch an old NFL player kneeling while the Star Spangled Banner was being played! Damn them and their un-American behavior and the fans that support such adverse behavior!
@timothyantoine5321
@timothyantoine5321 3 жыл бұрын
Many consider Joe Montana the greatest or at least in the conversation . When asked Montana replied of the greatest how can you leave out Otto Graham ? He played 10 years and every year he was in the Title game . I know a different time , less teams fewer games . It will never be equaled !
@hullbarrett
@hullbarrett 3 жыл бұрын
10 year career ... 10 straight Pro-Football Championship games (7-3). It took Tom Brady 21 years to do what Automatic Otto Graham did every year. ...
@Johnjohn-dt6hw
@Johnjohn-dt6hw 9 ай бұрын
Brady is great thou
@hullbarrett
@hullbarrett 9 ай бұрын
@@Johnjohn-dt6hw Yes, Brady was great! Definitely great! Brady is an Elite Hall of Fame QB! ... From Automatic Otto to Joe Montana, to all of the Terry Bradshaws, Jim Kellys, Dan Marinos, Bernie Kosars, Boomer Esiasons, etc., etc. in between.
@gamingwithsnoop937
@gamingwithsnoop937 4 жыл бұрын
The bill russell of football💯
@penguinrea0088
@penguinrea0088 2 жыл бұрын
God bless
@vaibanez17
@vaibanez17 3 жыл бұрын
Otto Graham was the best running QB to date
@janellemaynait
@janellemaynait 8 жыл бұрын
The greatest winner ever
@jimmyjux3641
@jimmyjux3641 6 жыл бұрын
I have an Otto Graham throwback it was 450 I had to have it
@bjdon99
@bjdon99 7 жыл бұрын
Because he was in the pre-SB era when film was black & white and players were about 125lbs lighter on avg than today, he doesn't get the credit that he deserves. But it is Otto and not Elway or Montana to whom Tom Brady should be compared to. Otto has the #1 winning pct all time (depending on his record that year Brady is either #2 or #3 all time flipping spots with Larmonica). And 10 title games with 7 wins in 10 seasons (admittedly in a smaller NFL and lesser quality AAFC) is the ultimate Bill Russell-like football record (I think Brady's 13 AFC East wins 10 AFC Conf Champ Game appearances and 6 SB appearances in 14 seasons in a much bigger league is the modern comparable).
@kvltizt
@kvltizt 6 жыл бұрын
And just like Bill Russell, he is eternally overrated for this despite everyone knowing in their hearts the competition back then was nothing compared to now. Imagine putting an All Pro Defensive team against an All Pro Offense from back then. The offense would quite literally get run over, throw around, battered and demolished.
@PewGoBoomLife
@PewGoBoomLife 6 жыл бұрын
bjdon99 125lbs lighter? Really didn't know women played the game back then.... 0_o Lets not forget that the tackling was much crazier less rules and so on. Modern QB's are super protected. Not that they dont take a lick here and there. But when they do look at what happens. Out of the game for a bit. Otto himself was 190 something, and compared to today most QB's are 10+ more if that. I remember a call on Ahmad Brooks (Niner LB at the time) for roughing the passer (Drew Brees) it was such a BS call for a normal tackle. But whatever floats everyones boats. Heck go back and watch interviews from players from back then. Talk about the passing window being inches compared to todays passing windows.
@sdgakatbk
@sdgakatbk 6 жыл бұрын
So Don, was Graham or Marino better?
@josephstewart2827
@josephstewart2827 2 жыл бұрын
Mr Cool Otto Graham
@troydaddygaming8976
@troydaddygaming8976 5 жыл бұрын
Otto Graham is the Michael Vick before Michael Vick
@dumisatonyjohnson8145
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 4 жыл бұрын
Graham was way better than Vick Vick was never as consistent as Graham
@DanielSong39
@DanielSong39 3 жыл бұрын
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