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Craft Computing

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10-Gigabit is expensive, especially when you need more than just a couple ports. Enter the Mikrotik CRS317-1G-16S+ switch... a 16-Port 10-Gigabit switch to run at the top of your server rack, enabling lightning fast transfers between all of your servers.
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@TeamNoLackin79
@TeamNoLackin79 3 жыл бұрын
You know when he is a true IT professional when he scheduled at a non production after hour maintenance to perform the cutover for his home network so he family is not effected by the plex/internet outage.
@CraftComputing
@CraftComputing 3 жыл бұрын
The SLA they have me under is criminal....
@TeamNoLackin79
@TeamNoLackin79 3 жыл бұрын
@@CraftComputing LOL. I completely understand. Also, it doesn't help since they have in-house IT support they know they have free life time tech support. The SLA in my home is tighter than any international corporate conglomerate, 100,000+ user organization I ever had to support lol. The SLA is 100.1% uptime or I get complaints, woke up out my sleep, no breakfast, lunch, or dinner until the issue has been resolved. Unless, there is a power outage. The outage is always my fault.
@Darkk6969
@Darkk6969 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeamNoLackin79 I know the feeling of no sleep, breakfast, lunch or dinner until the issues are resolved. I make a point to take comp days off so I don't get burned out. My boss completely understands that and don't mind taking those days off even though I still check on systems from home. lol.
@RootSwitch
@RootSwitch 3 жыл бұрын
My brother lives with me so my maintenance window is when I know he's asleep. Regrettably there have also been some "no impact" changes made in production that didn't exactly go to plan. He gets nervous anytime he sees me near my equipment.
@TeamNoLackin79
@TeamNoLackin79 3 жыл бұрын
@@RootSwitch Lol yep. My wife does the same thing. My kids say "what did you break this time" and how long is going to be down for.
@hardleecure
@hardleecure 3 жыл бұрын
3 seconds in and I know this is going to be good. Mikrotik are such an underrated company. All the features and performance of Cisco at 1/10th the cost.
@AtanasPaunoff
@AtanasPaunoff 2 жыл бұрын
Talking about Cisco I bought my Nexus 6000 with 48x10G+4x40G for little over $600 ;) Also happens to buy Brocade VDX6740 for $125 and HP 5900 for $300... So what is the point to buy Mikrotik when you can buy better for less money ? BTW my Cisco cost over $50 000 new, so I paid 1/100 of the price...
@zunrue1
@zunrue1 Жыл бұрын
MTBF ratings and other integration features would like a word
@trickyd-wc7bq
@trickyd-wc7bq 3 жыл бұрын
Now that Mikrotik have enabled the ASIC based L3 offloading in ROS V7 it's an extremely powerful bit of kit and will do L3 routing at 10g wire speed. You wont beat that for the price!
@AmitCantPlay
@AmitCantPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Slowly but surely you're doing exactly what I wanted to do at my job, I'm the only IT person there =s Thank you for your help!
@maarts665
@maarts665 3 жыл бұрын
Just saw thumbnail and it made me click instantly. I see Mikrotik, I smash that like button. Mikrotik is a company from small European country called Latvia 🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻. And it is awesome that they get more and more exposure, even Linus, the tech tippy one, has one 😍
@user-gw4yx6yb4z
@user-gw4yx6yb4z 7 ай бұрын
Linus proof hmm says alot rotfl...
@sysbofh
@sysbofh 3 жыл бұрын
Strictly speaking, You can run it as a pure switch with RouterOS too. The SwitchOS is easier to configure VLANs, but You can do it on both of them. And with RouterOS you get all its features - even using it as a pure switch.
@Enonymouse_
@Enonymouse_ 3 жыл бұрын
Router OS is less stable and not as well developed as SwitchOS.
@sysbofh
@sysbofh 3 жыл бұрын
@@Enonymouse_ No, not really. I use both, and they are equally rock solid. ROS has a lot more features than SwOS. SwOS has a much easier interface, and when You have similar products, the ones that are SwOS only are cheaper. Each of them has its uses. You just have to buy accordingly.
@zuexs690
@zuexs690 3 жыл бұрын
Well Jeff, looks like we both have the same switch now 👀
@AzraelIgnis
@AzraelIgnis 11 ай бұрын
My fiance at home. She knows when I buy new equipment because I'm occupied in a different productive way. First thing she says, " What did you buy?" I bought a DMS-106xt yesterday. She then looked and saw new flashing lights. "What is that?" I said a switch. I'm slowly building my network. Now I'm here to see what type of 10g switches are out there.
@olipitt12
@olipitt12 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeff! love your content, slight misspeak at 02:38 its a C13 cable, which is the standard PC cable, the C15 is specifically the heat rated connector, (the bloody annoying one with the notch out of it) will still work though, Props on getting the actual cable name and not just calling it kettle lead! Edit: rebelangel66 , got it though before me
@robluce6334
@robluce6334 3 жыл бұрын
The CRS317 (and the CRS3xx Mikrotik switches in general) are vastly underappreciated. Hardware L3 switching was added to the CRS317 in RouterOS Release 7.0beta7. I've had hardware L3 routing running on my 317 for almost the past year. Mikrotik added hardware routing to all of their CRS3xx switches in RouterOS 7.1beta6. When you bring these switches up to that level, they will run circles around ANYTHING in their class.
@etherboy3540
@etherboy3540 3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, I had no idea you could get this kind of gear new for $400.
@brandishwar
@brandishwar 3 жыл бұрын
Mikrotik has had a line of 10GbE switches out for a few years now. I swapped out an old Quanta LB6M (with it's LOUD!!! fans) for the CRS 317 a little over 2 years ago - even ordering it from Latvia directly since that's where I got the cheapest price, even adding in shipping. They work great for home or small business.
@MrRedcecil
@MrRedcecil 3 жыл бұрын
Mikrotik has got some awesome produkt in 10Gb range... This is my switch... CSS326-24G-2S+ (i dont need more 10Gb ports ) ;-)
@eduncan911
@eduncan911 3 жыл бұрын
You can get 10G for much much cheaper, and far faster, than that: forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/brocade-icx-series-cheap-powerful-10gbe-40gbe-switching.21107/ Brocade ICX6610-24P 16x SFP+ 10G (8x via 2x rear QSFP+ 40G breakout cables, which are just $10 each as well) 24x PoE+ 2x QSFP+ (40G) $100-$150 on eBay (48P are also in the $100-$180 range) And the Brocade's are all full L3 hardware line-rate ASIC switches, unlike the Mikrotik which offloads ACL and many other things to the slow CPU.
@vdubjunkie
@vdubjunkie 3 жыл бұрын
Now comes the tough question. Would you want a sub $400 10G switch in an environment you care about?
@etherboy3540
@etherboy3540 3 жыл бұрын
@@vdubjunkie For my homelab, 100%. I'm not paying at work so I'll stick with Juniper there.
@PopgoestheWiesle
@PopgoestheWiesle 2 жыл бұрын
I've been a long supporter of Mikrotik ever since I started migrating my network equipment to them 4 years ago. It's hard to beat the price for the vast feature set you get. The only negative I will mention is that the CLI and GUI take a while to get used to. But once you figure it out, it's smooth sailing.
@GearSeekers
@GearSeekers 3 жыл бұрын
That's one way to make me spend more money :P
@CraftComputing
@CraftComputing 3 жыл бұрын
Got'eem!
@marksterling8286
@marksterling8286 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact vlan 1003 is supposed to be a reserved vlan for token ring, but it’s also the vlan to present to Apple’s Airports if you want a separate subnet for your guest WiFi.
@rubenuijtde
@rubenuijtde 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of time went into that thumbnail illustration for sure. Nice video!
@RussSirois
@RussSirois 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering SwOS on this unit! Most people just say to go with RouterOS because it's more featured packed (including everything SwOS does), but I always ask why? It's not being used as a router! I wonder how this stacks up to something like a HPE 1950 12XGT? Other than the fact that it's all SFP+. We've got nothing but HPE at work but with the massive price difference between those two switches MikroTik is looking pretty good...
@nullstream
@nullstream 3 жыл бұрын
Works well as a layer 2 switch but does not do so well with layer 3. Not incredibly picky about SFPs so far. FS generic (copper and fiber) work just fine. That blue light is a lighthouse BEACON for sure. Crazy bright even for blue LEDs
@sin3r6y98
@sin3r6y98 2 жыл бұрын
It's a bit more than that, RouterOS 7 introduces support for MC-LAG and some quite decent layer 3 offload. This makes it affordable and useful layer 3 switch when you have a BGP / OSPF fabric to use it in.
@Joshv918
@Joshv918 2 жыл бұрын
RouterOs also has more features like seeing cdp and lldp neighbors and just show you more of what’s going on.. but trickier to configure to get hardware offloading but not to bad
@nbrowser
@nbrowser 3 жыл бұрын
The best part...Jeff moving his face around, some giggles had there...the struggles of capturing video from a camera and PC at the same time!
@Dummvogel
@Dummvogel 3 жыл бұрын
I actually like that they don't put power cables in the box. Because most of the time you just throw them in your pile of shame of unused power cables.
@pearcomputers2542
@pearcomputers2542 3 жыл бұрын
For them it also it makes logistics much easier (they don't have to pack diffrent boxes for diffrent countries).
@Dummvogel
@Dummvogel 3 жыл бұрын
@@pearcomputers2542 and it's rack mountable. So most people will use C13-C14 cables anyway.
@znzbest2004
@znzbest2004 3 жыл бұрын
Mikrotik CRS312-4C+8XG-RM is also a good option if you need more Ethernet ports. Those ports are 1/2.5/5/10G
@bradnoyes7955
@bradnoyes7955 3 жыл бұрын
7:04 Can you just make the face video bounce around the screen like those DVD screensavers? Face in the way? Just wait a few seconds for it to bounce away.
@maneeshparihar
@maneeshparihar Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a thorough video covering this fabulous switch and your home lab seems exciting.. kudos
@DotBowder
@DotBowder 3 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: To avoid moving your webcam, resize your browser to be smaller than the full recording canvas, thus exposing your background. Place your webcam on one of the two sides, and leave the extra space black. This way you wouldn't have to fuss with it.
@jbonn5365
@jbonn5365 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff... You can blur and try to obscure your switch password all you want. We all know it's "solarwinds123"! Haha! Joking aside, I'm glad your covering this mikrotik, I've been debating adding this one to my rack and going the 10g route myself.
@CraftComputing
@CraftComputing 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, I made it much more secure. Now it's "$olarwinds12345!"
@jbonn5365
@jbonn5365 3 жыл бұрын
@@CraftComputingohh... Phew! That is significantly more secure!
@RemyL75
@RemyL75 3 жыл бұрын
1:03 mark..... I never thought I would ever have to say this to you. BUT.... you F****** tease! Also, I have nowhere near enough 10Gb systems to use this (OK, I could get it to 50%), and i didn't even know this existed, but now I WANT one. Damn you, Jeff!
@MichaelSmith-fg8xh
@MichaelSmith-fg8xh 3 жыл бұрын
There are 4 and 8 SFP+ fanless versions as well
@RemyL75
@RemyL75 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelSmith-fg8xh I have the 4-port version (1st video I saw on it was Jeff's review), and was planning to get the 8-port version. Jeff has now ruined the plan lol.
@MichaelSmith-fg8xh
@MichaelSmith-fg8xh 3 жыл бұрын
@@RemyL75 I’ve been running the 8 (very happy, only annoyance is needing a reboot if I make a dramatic change). Before I got it, I thought there was no need for that many SFP+ (but I heeded sth’s warning about how often they replace the 4 port version due to growth)… then I bought a few rj45/SFP+… and found cheap SFP+ NICs… and now there’s only just enough ports.
@droknron
@droknron 3 жыл бұрын
Something to note about the Unifi 16-XG. There are many.. many revisions of it. I have hardware revision 12 or 13 and it's very quiet. I wouldn't say it's inaudible or silent but it's quiet. I personally modified mine by changing out its 2 x 30mm fans for 2 x 40mm Noctuas and now it's not audible at all for me and the temperature even lowered. As an owner of this switch I did some research prior to purchase and found the earlier revisions had a lot of issues. One of which was very loud fan noise but a lot of problems with dying RJ45 ports. This has all been corrected in the currently shipping version which they've been selling for about a year and a half now. The Mikrotik is really nice too of course and I did 100% consider this exact model before purchasing my 16-XG from Unifi but I felt it would be easier to do the fan mod I wanted on the Unifi with some 3D printed baffles and I knew I could get it inaudible once I had it, the Mikrotik was a bit more of a question mark in this regard and of course doesn't integrate into the Unifi Controller which while not super important is nice to have since all my stuff is Unifi.
@CoalitionGaming
@CoalitionGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I love this thumbnail
@CraftComputing
@CraftComputing 3 жыл бұрын
I'll sell you the NFT
@CoalitionGaming
@CoalitionGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@CraftComputing deal!
@RavingMad
@RavingMad 3 жыл бұрын
I watch your content on and off. Funny enough, the first video I watched from you was the one on Mikrotik CRS305. Even more hilarious is the fact that I wasn't even aware of Mikrotik at that time and I was looking around for something that would let me do stuff (I have an IT but non-networking background). I was moving from netgear/linksys default and dd-wrt firmwares. Long story short, I kept digging into Mikrotik portfolio and I've now gone through a complete facelifting of my home network with all mikrotik at routing and core switching layers. Based on what I know, this switch you got is the current top of the line switch offering from Mikrotik (I happen to have the CRS309, which has the same Switch chip + SoC and is similarly capable with half the ports). There are a lot of benefits to use RouterOS in this switch (as well as anything from Mikrotik that allows it). In general if you are able to use RouterOS in a Mikrotik device then you have lots of management options winbox and/or web GUI via Linux/Mac/Win PC, full featured mobile App from Android and Apple, Home Assistant and Ansible integration for automation (using API) etc. The SwitchOS can only be managed over web console. In particular to this switch (as well as the CRS309), if you use RouterOS and don't mind living on the edge, you can deploy version 7, and that will allow for hardware offloading of basic IP switching. This can essentially turn this switch into an extremely capable monster, capable of 10Gbps VLAN routing, i.o.w. a basic wirespeed L3 switch. Based on the descriptions I've read that should be good enough for home environment. As far as I've learned by dabbling into SwOS the inter VLAN routing function is completely missing. I'd suggest keep dabbling into RouterOS 7 capabilities for this switch, and you can make this switch an even more prominent part of your network. Lastly, fruity and scented IPAs give me extreme heart burn and some of the most annoying hangovers. So, it's a complete no-no for me. Thanks and keep up the great work. P.S.: BTW according to Mikrotik website this switch is supposed to have included not 1 but 2 power cords. Since the middle of the pandemic I've been getting packages from Amazon and such with missing parts and accessories also. It's been quite annoying and I think is directly attributable to lack of human resources at play for various checkpoints in packaging. Oh well, 1st world problems.
@kozygeorg
@kozygeorg 3 жыл бұрын
I have never tasted alkohol before, but I always find your beer review very interesting lol
@perdomot
@perdomot 3 жыл бұрын
The most impressive thing in this video is Jeff reciting the complicated names of all the parts. True Nerd Cred brother. LOL
@benjamindewaele4103
@benjamindewaele4103 3 жыл бұрын
It actually does come with power cables, we use these fairly regularly and we don"t have any complaints about them :)
@jonathanbuzzard6648
@jonathanbuzzard6648 3 жыл бұрын
Personally not having more power cords shoved down my throat that are invariably the wrong length is a very good thing.
@Tom-sdeejay
@Tom-sdeejay 3 жыл бұрын
Just put you Head in the middel of the screen🤣. What I love to see is if you have a firewall and how to install a firewall to protect your home servers.
@charleshines5700
@charleshines5700 3 жыл бұрын
You mentioned how loud they can be. In general anything rack mounted can be expected to be really loud. There are rack mounted servers that will give you tinnitus (ringing in the ears) if you spend enough time around them!
@csimon2
@csimon2 3 жыл бұрын
But even to the point of noise, not sure what he’s referring to regarding the Ubiquiti? My 16XG is pretty dang quiet - certainly loads quieter than my servers (Cisco UCS’) and rack-mounted NAS’
@CraftComputing
@CraftComputing 3 жыл бұрын
A couple people pointed out that a firmware release about a year ago dramatically flattened the fan curve. They're much quieter than they used to be.
@EposVox
@EposVox 3 жыл бұрын
Ayyyyy! I've been rocking this one for a year or two now :) You don't need to plug both PSUs in, BTW!
@mightyhalo
@mightyhalo 3 жыл бұрын
But if you have one in the wall and one in the UPS, it stays up even during UPS maintenance :)
@dashtesla
@dashtesla 3 жыл бұрын
Unacceptable.
@mightyhalo
@mightyhalo 3 жыл бұрын
@Find Truth Yeah, that does not sound like a homelab xD
@SuperVincenot
@SuperVincenot 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah didn't he say that one of them is just redundance. Generous to give redundance PSU for that price
@steventran9288
@steventran9288 3 жыл бұрын
Been following your channel. Last year I started building out my ideal computer setup (Lian Li DK-05 desk with dual PC's with with EVGA FTW 3090/AMD 5950X). I needed a lab and came across your videos. Ended up getting a Netshelter CX 24U rack, Dream Machine Pro, 10G 16XG switch, 24 port POE switch and got some Supermicro 1u chassis with the D-1541 boards. Saw your videos and got some of the 1u builds you had in videos too. Also building the Chenbro NAS you made a video on for an interim NAS (I have a 45 Drives 45 drive Stornado I'll be bringing online eventually too, the Seagate Exos drives sadly doubled in price last few weeks). Now debating on getting these switches too, damn you :)
@Darkk6969
@Darkk6969 3 жыл бұрын
That's odd about the missing power cords as mine came with it. Maybe depending on who you order it from since they do make them for both US and International markets. Got mine from Amazon which pointed me to a reseller in Latvia. Ironically not too far from MikroTik's HQ. :)
@RootSwitch
@RootSwitch 3 жыл бұрын
I also ordered mine off Amazon and it came with 2 power cables. Absolutely love MikroTik's switches for Layer 2 10Gb.
@AshleeSmithDJ
@AshleeSmithDJ 3 жыл бұрын
We use these in our fibre nodes to clients they are really good.
@jamesmcintosh4664
@jamesmcintosh4664 3 жыл бұрын
Same here we use them too
@AshleeSmithDJ
@AshleeSmithDJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmcintosh4664 they very popular here in South Africa because of the price to performance.
@iamashyura
@iamashyura 3 жыл бұрын
Dude. I've been wanting to get that switch. Ur video will really help a lot. Thanks !!
@rebelangel66
@rebelangel66 3 жыл бұрын
2:33 those look like c14 sockets which needs an c13 plug not c15. c15 does fit though.
@bradley3549
@bradley3549 3 жыл бұрын
7:20 Just resize the window! Sheesh. lol.
@d00dEEE
@d00dEEE 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to trigger people, one of the Latvian Microtik employees said on their forums that it's pronounced "mee-kro-teek".
@daves4081
@daves4081 3 жыл бұрын
Love my CRS312-4C, I frequently use my home lab for customer demonstrations and love the fact folks go "WTF, that was fast..." (10G + NVMe rules! just don't tell my wife)
@D9ID9I
@D9ID9I 3 жыл бұрын
O'rly. Especially 1Gbe link to CPU. Try L3 on that joke.
@daves4081
@daves4081 Жыл бұрын
@@D9ID9I Yeah I don't use the L3 functions. I just found it to be the cheapest 12 port 10 Gbps device a the time 🙂
@bluegizmo1983
@bluegizmo1983 2 жыл бұрын
Man it's crazy how fast prices can drop. This video was only posted 1 year ago, and now you can buy a used 32 port 100G switch (yes, one hundred gig) for less than $500!
@ktube1432
@ktube1432 2 жыл бұрын
Link please I’m looking 100gig switch.
@bluegizmo1983
@bluegizmo1983 2 жыл бұрын
@@ktube1432 also, not sure how familiar you are with used server equipment, but those DX010 switches will be listed saying either F2B or B2F, which means the airflow of the unit is either Front2Back or Back2Front, so choose accordingly to your needs.
@ktube1432
@ktube1432 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I found some on eBay: Celestica Seastone DX010 32-Port 100G QSFP28 ONIE Switch F2B airflow for $489
@mph8759
@mph8759 Жыл бұрын
To be literal “DAC Cable” is not redundant as it is directly attached copper, so adding ‘cable’ is perfectly fine
@haakonness
@haakonness 3 жыл бұрын
When you are assigning vlans, you can click and drag to change multiple checkboxes.
@Meowbay
@Meowbay 3 ай бұрын
Would be better if they offered an RJ45 version of that same router. I know very few homelabs and small businesses that have even one optical link anywhere.. If they have, it's usually only 1 (their fiber-uplink).
@RobertRidleyE
@RobertRidleyE 3 жыл бұрын
You should have received the power cords with the CRS 317(I did). I would ask the seller / distributor to send you some or provide some sort of credit/refund.
@jas9450
@jas9450 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome addition to your server rack 👍
@pkt1213
@pkt1213 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Seems like docking the in the middle right might be the location requiring least amount of movement for any future videos.
@sagetechnology4913
@sagetechnology4913 3 жыл бұрын
I think my ideal use case for one of these would be in a lan party, having 4 of the ports going to a QSFP+ nic on a lancache server via a breakout cable, with the others going to CSS326's, which would then be connected to host machines, with the CRS317's gigabit ethernet port going to a router.
@diezam
@diezam 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for taking the time to make it.
@sybreeder86
@sybreeder86 3 жыл бұрын
I got 2 of them for work some time ago. second as cold spare. Still better value than 1 ubiquiti. Easy to setup
@D9ID9I
@D9ID9I 3 жыл бұрын
crs354 has 12 10Gbe ports + 48 gigabit ports. For the same money. Which makes it better bang for the buck.
@NickBouwhuis
@NickBouwhuis Жыл бұрын
DAC = Direct Attach Copper in my book. Therefor DAC cable is not reduntant (to me at least)
@JasonsLabVideos
@JasonsLabVideos 2 жыл бұрын
I think im going to order this now !! Thanks Jeff!
@MatthewHill
@MatthewHill 3 жыл бұрын
DAC Cable is not redundant. DAC stands for Direct Attach Copper.
@YeOldeTraveller
@YeOldeTraveller 3 жыл бұрын
That looks like a good option once I upgrade my router to support 10 GbE.
@RickMyBalls
@RickMyBalls 2 жыл бұрын
why
@bigd33ns
@bigd33ns 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review, great to listen to, keep it up. The switch being SILENT is a major consideration in an homelab situation. I love my Dell 8024F, but even with modded fans, it still whines too much for my taste compared to the rest of the gear.
@jurisembergs9245
@jurisembergs9245 3 жыл бұрын
Signs on the package of router(right side of package), represents Latvian roots ot company produced this router.
@MauricioOtta
@MauricioOtta 3 жыл бұрын
You know you can resize the window right? :) Great content!!
@oso2k
@oso2k 3 жыл бұрын
I've had issues with SFP+16 being configured as my traffic mirror port. A little surprised that you didn't run into it too.
@kazolar
@kazolar 3 жыл бұрын
I have esentialy an identical set of components in my rack, UDMP, and both MikroTik POE and 10gb switches, one thing I can say, is I did try to sacrifice 8 ports and get the 8 port unifi 10gb switch, and ended up returning it, as lovely as it is to have it in the unifi controller, it is too buggy, it didn't work properly with half of my 10gb servers, I was running a pair of small MikroTik 5 port (4 SFP) switches ganged together, and moving to the MikroTik16 port switch, everything just works, no weirdness that some unifi hardware tends to have -- they seem to be always in beta.
@Wrasko
@Wrasko 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Going to seperate the network in a house i own into 4 vlans, and looks like this might be able to help me find correct equipment. RouterOS might be something because of firewall. :).
@korgied
@korgied 3 жыл бұрын
I would love a 14-port 10Gb + 2-port 25Gb or 40Gb switch. I don't want to buy any of those older Brocade switches that use too much power and need to be unlocked with a license (even if there are people out there who can get those licenses for you). This switch still seems pretty good though. It's not like I need 25/40Gb but, like you said, I always want to upgrade just a bit further. My main server has a ConnectX-3 card (and those are cheap so I could buy more for other machines) so I can already use 40Gb.
@TonyOstrich
@TonyOstrich 3 жыл бұрын
Considering I have an entire column of my organized cables pegboard filled with that power cable, I'd actually be glad they didn't include them with the switch (NOTE: I still think it's complete BS that phone manufacturers are now not including USB C charge adapters).
3 жыл бұрын
The reason maybe BS to you. But it's something little we can to fight e-waste. Most people have collected enough adapters and cables over the years. I can imagine is little sh*tty if you just started with your first phone or other stuff. But you will see after a few years how many cables and stuff you have collected. I have a full box with this stuff up in the attic. Btw you have to blame EU parliament for pressuring companies to do more against e-waste. (apple still hasn't did sh*t though)
@markdee3506
@markdee3506 3 жыл бұрын
Planned obsolescence is the issue, not shipping with a charger. Maybe start shipping PD chargers. I'm sure your box is more full of micro than c.
3 жыл бұрын
@@markdee3506 yes that is true. That is the biggest problem right now. While I don't have a box with lots of type c cables i will in a few years.
@AceBoy2099
@AceBoy2099 2 жыл бұрын
When I need a power brick I have to go buy one, maybe because I don't go out and drop a grand on a new phone every year?!? (Also relate to the loss of micro sd for secondary storage.)
@geekdomo
@geekdomo 2 жыл бұрын
I bought this on your recommendation (among other channels recommending as well). I am really stuck. All I did was replace my old 10GB switch which had 4 10GB ports with this one because the hope was to get my home lab up and running all 10GBe. As soon as I installed this switch, rebooted in SWOS and I tested my 2 10GB computers with iperf3. Both prior would max out around 7-8Gbps. With this new switch I would get a whopping 2-3Gbps. Went to the forums looking for help Nothing. The documentation is laughable at best. Now trying to find a Cisco solution because this switch is horrible out of the box.
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios 2 жыл бұрын
So all that we need is an additional network card in each connected system, huh? That should have been mentioned alongside the "quiet" presence of the rack.
@JohnSmith-yz7uh
@JohnSmith-yz7uh 3 жыл бұрын
I would have probably mounted it in the back of the rack if it would have been in a commercial setting as you wouldn't need to run all of the cables front to back, but the choice is yours ;-)
@CraftComputing
@CraftComputing 3 жыл бұрын
I have a rack with a clear front, I want to see all the blinkenlights!
@Pabula
@Pabula 3 жыл бұрын
Any chance of doing PFsense router video series, i feel your homelab is becoming a really nice setup that its outgrowing ubiquity.
@CraftComputing
@CraftComputing 3 жыл бұрын
I've used Ubiquiti in multi-thousand client environments and small business data centers. Trust me, it's just fine for a home network.
@VictorEstrada
@VictorEstrada 2 ай бұрын
The QNAP 100Gb/25Gb switch seems like a better deal
@TedTabaka
@TedTabaka 3 жыл бұрын
Well done. I am thinking of getting me one of these.
@johntdavis9196
@johntdavis9196 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Perhaps when working with user-interfaces so spread out, you could just have your head float around the screen and bounce off the edges, like an olde thyme screensaver. Really force the viewer to engage with their mind. ;) Have you found it still to be effectively silent over the last two months? I've seen some reviews indicating it gets quite loud, but I think that might be specifically when more than 1 or 2 1000BaseT transceivers are installed. I'm considering this or a CRS309 for a 10Gbps backbone for my home/home office LAN, so I'd hopefully be using DAC for everything.
@PWingert1966
@PWingert1966 3 жыл бұрын
I have its baby brother the CRS305 to connect my QNAP332X to the rest of my network. I might look at the CRS309 as a next step up or I might jump to this.
@andrewenglish3810
@andrewenglish3810 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that's crazy, 10 physical servers in your home? You must be made of money to pay that hefty power bill each month. You should look at a Dell R820 so you can VM on your servers into one box plus have extra room to add others.
@CraftComputing
@CraftComputing 3 жыл бұрын
Power is 7.5¢/kWh here 😉
@trondmm
@trondmm 3 жыл бұрын
No power cables, huh? Is that just for the american market, perhaps? I bought three Mikrotik switches (crs328-24p-4s + 2x crs312-4c+8xg) earlier this year, and got two power cables with each. All of them safely resting at the top of the "never used power cables"-pile, of course.
@Tobatobu
@Tobatobu 3 жыл бұрын
I do like these budget switches, but the web portals could use some improvements. I wonder if they will open it up to opensource to allow custom UIS. Currently, they use the same gui for all versions, so options show up even if your equipment doesn't include it. They also make it very easy to lock yourself out. For example, the interfaces page shows all your interfaces, for which, each has a small D located next to it. Now if you get click happy and don't hover over it, that D means disable.
@UntouchedWagons
@UntouchedWagons 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't DAC stand for Direct Attach Copper?
@drunkbear889
@drunkbear889 3 жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DAC, www.fs.com/c/direct-attach-cables-1113
@stephanszarafinski9001
@stephanszarafinski9001 3 жыл бұрын
RouterOS is not for when you want to use it as a router, it is for when you need more features, flexibility and management options. RouterOS can be used for switching, it’s just more complicated to setup. But, if SWOS suits your needs, just use it.
@aurvaroy6670
@aurvaroy6670 2 жыл бұрын
If that's so, then why is it called RouterOS instead of something else (like BridgeOS)? This seems very misleading to novices like me.
@stephanszarafinski9001
@stephanszarafinski9001 2 жыл бұрын
@@aurvaroy6670 I meant that it’s not like Swos is for switching and Ros is for routing. You can do both with both OSs. I should’ve typed not JUST for routing.
@Thewickedjon
@Thewickedjon 3 жыл бұрын
if i owned a big company, and needed an i.t. person, i would hire you.
@CraftComputing
@CraftComputing 3 жыл бұрын
I had a job with an IT company. I'm never going back 😉
@elihere1242
@elihere1242 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the UniFi also have 10gbe rj45 ports that this one lacks of and is probably the cause of why is loud an more expensive, so it comes down to the needs of the customer.
@gtc6523
@gtc6523 3 жыл бұрын
I have a xg that and i cannot complain about the fan noise and dont hear it at all. given if noise was a complaint you can swap in some noctua 80mm fans.
@itmkoeln
@itmkoeln 3 жыл бұрын
How do you put 80mm fans out in a switch that is 1U in height? Just curious 🤔. 1U is significantly less than 80mm even 40 is at least close... Used to have XGs in my lab and switched to mikrotik last year. Because Afterall I expanded and ended up with 16 SFP+ on my rack
@gtc6523
@gtc6523 3 жыл бұрын
@@itmkoeln you are right thats my bad idk what i was thinking, i actually went and looked and they are 30mm fans but the point still stands that noctua makes replacement fans that you can then swap out if needed. In my case i got my switch on sale for about 500 at the time and when you have other unifi products is nice to use one interface to manage them all. also the unifi xg has 12 sfp+ and 4 ethernet ports that are 10gb so if you have devices that have a 10gb port like my motherboard its 1 less purchase for a sfp+ adapter
@KayJay01
@KayJay01 3 жыл бұрын
I just upgraded to a 36 port 40Gb switch myself :P
@JensHove
@JensHove 3 жыл бұрын
😍
@NetBandit70
@NetBandit70 3 жыл бұрын
WHAT? I can't hear you over the sound of your switch.
@ramhee98
@ramhee98 3 жыл бұрын
I got this switch for roughly 2 years and its a great product but rhe fans can also get quite loud!
@darklocksly3615
@darklocksly3615 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers, Love the videos as you got the same tech taste.
@emilekenberg3235
@emilekenberg3235 3 жыл бұрын
Im going to drag my face to the like button :D You have very good energy! Great Work!!
@alexsevo6
@alexsevo6 3 жыл бұрын
unifi is a premium but you get POE and 10G Rj45 and the unified system , stupid not to iinvest in the eco system if you already started .. the gem 2 switch 24 pro is amazing
@itmkoeln
@itmkoeln 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to team Mikrotik 👍
@BrianThomas
@BrianThomas 2 жыл бұрын
I think I'm missing something. You didn't do any testing on the gear. What's the bandwidth limit for the backplane in a real world environment? Does it support copper SPF at 10Gig? If so, which ones work best? Which optical SFP's work best? Which ones are not supported? Is there a second video coming for this review?
@taypc6
@taypc6 3 жыл бұрын
"You'll hear a 16-XG over the rest of the rack" As someone with a 16-XG directly behind my head, almost 24/7, I notice it less than my UDM Pro
@KayJay01
@KayJay01 3 жыл бұрын
Is that because it's made you go deaf?
@taypc6
@taypc6 3 жыл бұрын
@@KayJay01 Surprisingly, no.
@cyrusdeath
@cyrusdeath 3 жыл бұрын
sigh.... any benchmark that isnt l1/l2 nonblocking is just tearjerking...... Im not sure why anyone would ever want to light up l3 anything on one of these....
@JoeyBaby47
@JoeyBaby47 3 жыл бұрын
DAC cable gets plugged into the NIC card. After that's all done, let's manage the NTFS file system. 🤣
@twitchyarby
@twitchyarby 3 жыл бұрын
I have a US-16-XG in my rack in my office and have never noticed the fan noise.
@salat
@salat 3 жыл бұрын
About having to move the face cam: Simply don't maximize the browser window to full width?
@deiwar2994
@deiwar2994 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent as usual but the VLAN config was confusing me? Another question was why you didn't choose the Mikrotik CRS312-4C+8XG-RM instead? It seems the same price with better connectivity? Am I wrong about something?
@OfficialJamesNewberry
@OfficialJamesNewberry 3 жыл бұрын
OP thumbnail bro
@metalwolfy82
@metalwolfy82 3 жыл бұрын
why don't you use winbox to manage it? I use it for my mikrotik router and its much better than the web ui.
@anthonypolsinelli1179
@anthonypolsinelli1179 3 жыл бұрын
Switch Os does not support winbox. Routeros which he switched from has way more features (even in a switch) and supports winbox
@Jdmr1701
@Jdmr1701 3 жыл бұрын
I just got 2 for work and one for myself at home. All 3 came with 2 power plugs each. Reach out to the seller.
@Jdmr1701
@Jdmr1701 3 жыл бұрын
PSUs are built in. His didn’t come with any power cables.
@ApexOT
@ApexOT 3 жыл бұрын
Solid video! Love your stuff.
@ierosgr
@ierosgr 2 жыл бұрын
Is the connection between your UDM and Mikrotik ( At 4.53 the red utp cable (straight through right?) ) that gives internet access to the devices you have connected on the Mikrotik and it's gui as well.
@tractorman7733
@tractorman7733 3 жыл бұрын
Im growing my home lab, and Im fairly young. Im using PfSense as my router/firewall and so on. Is there any real reasons why you didnt go with PfSense with 10GB networking equipment? Im just curious as I want to make sure that I am making the best decisions.
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