17 Things You DIDN’T Know About the False Son

[@rndThursday]

Any survivor that hates PSG is S Tier to me www.twitch.tv/rndthursday

[@partypoltergeist]

based and rexpilled

[@IcyFlame606]

False Son's a chill guy, ya know? He really said "If you can't beat em, join em" and casually became a playable survivor after being defeated. W's to him fr

[@hyperinvox9129]

to be fair we literally cured his schizophrenia

[@ZacharypjgStudios]

You gotta first cure him with the halcyon seed

[@terriblyterrified8742]

"damn, didnt know you guys were chill like that" -false son joining the survivors

[@HailtotheTeo]

I like all of these interesting item synergies that I usually would never use, makes false son even more in depth than I thought.

[@rndThursday]

one of the most unique survivors! kinda like how void fiend interacts with void items

[@Banshein]

great pfp btw!

[@Deamos8294]

That is a sick pfp that I’m sure not a lot of people here know what it is

[@Deamos8294]

@@Bansheindid you hear the new album is coming out next month

[@Banshein]

@@Deamos8294 yes! very excited for it

[@lesliejacoby9137]

Off topic but am I crazy to say Transcendence + warped echo and like 3 teddy bears is some of the best survivability in the game? It completely changes how the items work and I love it, feels like its not gotten notice with warped echo being bugged to say the least.

[@rndThursday]

warped echo making a comeback

[@RiverWilliamson]

Echo is also really funny with Wungus. "Oh no, I'm damaged. Lemme run it off"

[@abra_escaped]

Yeah, when I realized the first hit from echo didn't remove your "out of combat" state I was shocked, plus it synergizes really well with on damage taken items in general since it lets them proc twice off of one hit

[@pbToast03]

I also love that on Seeker/Kur-skan you can just use your shift to avoid the delayed half of the damage from Warped Echo

[@lesliejacoby9137]

@@rndThursday started at the bottom, now transcending to the top

[@abra_escaped]

Luminous shot feels like it was made for this guy and his 4 base stock secondary that gets stocks easier than any other survivor

[@pbToast03]

Luminous shot is also super duper busted on Railgunner and Mul-T. Railgunner just spams in and out of scope, and with Mul-T, just tapping his right nailgun in Power Mode stacks the buff almost as fast as Railgunner (and as a bonus, if you keep holding the left nailgun it won't consume stacks immediately; it waits until you release and use it after having stacked Luminous Shot)

[@Crazykidthree33]

I would like to tack on that Rex with the Self Damage Secondary skill is increibly good with Luminous Shot. You get a stack every .5 seconds.

[@shadboi8927]

Thanks rndThursday, I didn't know nothing about this facts since I can't read the menu

[@rndThursday]

i serve to live

[@Rosa_0000]

False Son is a survivor that I wasn't expecting to become one of my favorites when I first played him. I absolutely adore his design and gameplay, and how he synergizes with some unusual items. In the future if Gearbox ever happens to polish him a little more, I will confidently say I have a new favorite survivor.

[@fidelcashflow4940]

I will say I appreciate your open-minded approach to the game, I feel like a lot of creators just play the same all the time with no variance and you put into words why i think the False Son is cool, universally good items are all well and good, but when an item that might normally just be mediocre or even bad is actaully super synergestic and powerful with a particular survivors kit,THAT feels really good breaks up the monotony of "oh boy how many crit glasses and atgs can i get"

[@jblack3830]

Yes. I always think bison steak is meh when I get it, but with false son I would be pretty excited.

[@legendaryfailure]

thanks man, watching raydans grab 6 stone flux pauldrons and being confused as to why people say its good hurt to watch from the bottom of my heart so thank you for knowing that only 1 stone flux is needed

[@rndThursday]

my pleasure to spread the good word 🙏

[@Scorchlette]

All I learned from this is that MUL-T is way tankier than I initially thought.

[@rndThursday]

knawledge

[@drxgqn]

Something to note is that Lunar Spikes gained from growth start on cooldown, but backup mags don’t, which is why you can be super fast at the start of a stage

[@Goobers_Gunk]

you forgot the slam having a 3.0 proc coefficient.... (holding left and right click)

[@peavuh]

but only the grounded one for some reason

[@baronbacku9984]

wait it does???

[@eldritchschizo9358]

10:11 On that note, idk if it works differently on PC, but Luminous Shot will activate off of MUL-T’s secondary attack while in Power Mode! Nail gun will only proc off initial trigger pull, but rebar will proc it every shot! Idk how the other two work but it’s a really cool and fun combo!!

[@rigboy9748]

You also didn’t mention charging his laser and then transforming (volcanic egg, eccentric vase) allows you to fire his laser while in that form

[@rndThursday]

me when the vase is eccentric

[@icetide9411]

When I discovered that Spinel Tonic interacted with Growth, it was INSANE. Easily one of the most fun runs I've ever had.

[@lmasternull889]

One thing i've never tried and still wonder about is if attack speed would increase the rate you fire the lunar spikes.

[@abra_escaped]

It does, if you get a ton of them from stone pauldron or something you can even see the fire rate decrease in real time as you fire them lol

[@rndThursday]

yes cuz attack speed affects abilities!

[@MrStrides]

as much as I criticized the DLC's game design I gotta say, adding a character that makes HP items relevant was pretty based, I just wish he didn't look so much like a mod character x|

[@voidication]

How does he look like a mod character?

[@DamageMaximo]

@@voidication play modded characters and find out

[@chocoha4981]

@@voidication animations and skins and character model and just anything esthetic is just very bad to me

[@shrunker684]

​@@voidicationhave you tried using his utility lol it looks pretty awful

[@itmejac6945]

I think he looks cool 😅

[@AeveanLeeow]

Theres also a bug where attack speed is retained on the laser ticks even through runs lol. Tested with debugtoolkit with tritips to count ticks and syringe stacks. 48 ticks at base. 241 ticks after adding a ton of syringe. Exit to menu and load a new run, still 241. Even if you play a fresh run this means temporary attack speed buffs like berserkers pauldron and predatory and tonic are much stronger than usual.

[@badwithusernames3238]

the lunar ruin counting as 2 debuffs also happened with collapse when sotv released, both are actually 2 seperate debuffs for the different components with one of them just being invisible. 5:25 also yeah, thats how level scaling works. every level your max health increases by 0.3 times the base value and all other stats that scale with level increase by 0.2 times the base value each level 5:45 no, that is NOT what it does, it stores xp seperately from your own level and the xp requirement for a level always starts at level 1 for the item. it effectively allows you to level up from level 1 again for only 20% of the stats

[@PROGAMING24-pe2ye]

False son is my new fav survivor :) Also it is weird to think that Bison steak is actually better than backup mags on him :/

[@peacebomber7584]

6:11 With the prayer beads bug does it mean that anytime you scrap with less than 10 beads you get 15% instead of what you should?

[@rndThursday]

yessir

[@jaymz9292]

I’ve tested the piercing shot. On a slope down, aiming slightly up, it can pierce but it’s very wonky. It misses a lot of enemies but still kills a couple

[@raysooth2642]

The only thing cammando Can kil 1:33

[@dyes6192]

I’ve learned a thing with the false son which lets you use his laser for the entire duration, all you have to do is just charge it, let go of the button, then hold the button and it lets you use his laser for the entire duration.

[@sp00n94]

We missed you rnd

[@Luke-888]

the fact that he was made in the same patch as chef is crazy

[@s-gamer2705]

Despite i already know about that, i appreciate your efforts for sharing it with more people. False Son is honestly really fun to use, and instantly become my most used by game's info. His animations are the only downside for me.

[@ar.71944]

I really love how they made bison steak and infusion actually good with false son. But I would've preferred a buff

[@Hectorlph]

I've been enjoying how Seeker and False Sun use a lot of otherwise "dead" items. People say the new DLC items are bad, but they probably just build the same proc builds over and over...

[@baronbacku9984]

yeah, on one hand i kinda agree that it's silly to just shut down the new content without trying to make it work, but on the other hand i just wish they were slightly more flexible. like you know, proc builds work on pretty much every survivor, some of the new items can only work with the new survivors

[@christo3247]

Hey rnd, I just wanted to drop by and say how absolutely blown away I am by your outstanding video editing skills! Every transition, effect, and creative touch you add makes your videos not just content but true works of art. It's clear that you pour immense passion and effort into every upload, and it really elevates the viewing experience. Your consistency in bringing us high-quality content is something I genuinely appreciate-it’s become a highlight I look forward to regularly! As a commando main, sometimes it's hard for me to put into words just how much I enjoy your videos. So, I had ChatGPT help me out in expressing my appreciation. Keep up the phenomenal work, and I can't wait to see what you have in store next.. ps. YEEEE RND

[@grantplunkett8410]

Thanks for the 14 tips!

[@Daniel-ot7ce]

Now he is my second most loved survivor Acrid still my beloved

[@avi8aviate]

Honestly, I prefer the Seeker over the False Son. Her healing from her M2 is very strong, and her alt M2 synergizes very well with Sojourn. Not only that, but Sojourn also synergizes very well with both Razorwire and Repulsion Armor Plates.

[@hubblebubble1550]

half-tech for his ooga booga groundslam: if you get some height and then activate it, you’ll do increased damage in a wider radius, and if you get high enough you’ll still have a bounce at the end. Even though gearbox removed charging up the ground slam infinitely, those other affects are built into the attack

[@hubblebubble1550]

on the topic of is charged m1: with lots and lots of attack speed, the grounder pounder wont connect with enemies or the ground, and not do damage. I’d guess the attack is resetting before it finishes the smacking part of its previous sledgehammer special. However, a jumping charged m1 still hits like normal so its whatever

[@hubblebubble1550]

and not really a secret tech at all but something to watch out for when using luminous shot with false son (which is kinda nice tbh): Charging up his m1 sometimes does a small regular attack right before he starts his charge, which can consume the luminous shot stacks prematurely. Sometimes it’s wort it to turn around to charge up and then 180 smash to get the big damages

[@hubblebubble1550]

and it doesn’t matter but the buff from step of the brothers is probably from the ramping explosion effect of the dash. Fun fact ig

[@pbToast03]

I could've sworn Mul-T's Rebar Puncher has another instance of 'piercing' without being highlighted. In the event that I'm remembering correctly Laser Burst is most likely just some keyword inconsistencies

[@antehman2912]

rebar puncher is also fake piercing it like bounces weirdly off enemies

[@AlvaroNub]

Hella insane how rndThursday is lowkey saving Risk of Rain 2 and Gearbox from being cancelled by putting themselves on the other side of the spectrum when talking about the state of the game.

[@kylebudhai4602]

Love the fact video, I hope to see more of them or something similar in the future

[@quazzz5086]

you should do an updated mod recommendation video for the new dlc

[@Collektor1]

I got to eclipse 7 without knowing you can charge his laser, goes to show how broken this character is

[@baronbacku9984]

god gamer

[@typhoon4994]

False son has actually become my favorite survivor

[@Maxey428]

Just got my friend chef and false son and I was playing him. 34 mocha, 57 hoof and 5 stone flux. Adding all my infusions and steak my max health got to over 150k

[@grantcole8898]

You... you can charge the laser?? How did I not realize this. That would have made getting that useless ass alt a lot easier. I love this survivor. Probably my new favorite (sorry bandit)

[@ikeadump3265]

i was extremely surprised when i first played false son because of how much fun i was having …. i honestly think he’s my favorite of all survivors just because of how fun it is to slam things P.S. if you didn’t know, slamming from height ignores fall damage :)

[@zackmcsavage4966]

i could be wrong but i was sure that his laser duration stacked with health even from leveling up

[@Zanodia]

Stoneflux + soletude + brital crown. Infinite money and infinite levels which means infinite growth.

[@drpineapple498]

Always like characters that make lesser used items good

[@GameRaptor64222]

You can completely negate fall damage by holding and releasing your M1+M2 mid air that is

[@asdfsupermariosunshi]

I would love to actually know how the Seed of Life equipment works! A perfect video as always, really entertaining

[@avi8aviate]

After use, whether by saving yourself from death or reviving fallen allies, the consumed version can be planted in the ground to spawn healing orbs with a short cooldown.

[@asdfsupermariosunshi]

@@avi8aviate But how though? I haven’t been able to activate it in a single run

[@whbh2243]

@@asdfsupermariosunshi it auto uses if you die, and if you use it while a teammate is dead it will revive them

[@spiderjerusalem8505]

​@@avi8aviate, it's pretty neat that they made equipment have some small usage instead of making it do nothing after proccing. Still, only 1 equipment is so little...

[@avi8aviate]

@@asdfsupermariosunshi Die with it equipped or activate it to revive allies. You might have to be near an ally though; I don't know for sure since I haven't played multiplayer since the update.

[@wisgarus]

He is the closest to playable Providence

[@BryceAdvice]

Awww man I have to wait another day or something I guess... Dangit!

[@Leo-kz2bb]

You can also get a curse from shrine of shaping

[@Willlll29]

Shaped glass not affecting growing is throated

[@arxidiax2arxidiax276]

Now if only I could actually get him, can barely beat the boss as is. Had 10 stacks of tougher times and got OBLITERATED by the laser without any of them procing ):

[@fuzzypenguinx2858]

what if the false son was the true son and i(the player) was his dad

[@rndThursday]

this is big !

[@airjairj1203]

What mod are you using for the stats on the left of the screen?? Better UI is deprecated and i cant find a good replacement, UNTIL NOW

[@DeathRavenDFclips]

Fanally a use for prayer beads.

[@stanman3192]

Chef and false son are oddly inversed. False son has a lot if depth for item synergies and tech compared to most survivors and is super strong but has really crappy and janky animations. Chef hiwever aesthetically looks pretty great but his kit is extremely meddling in synergies, combo potential, and tes chef is just 100% worthless.

[@corneliusocachorromanteiga5931]

Honestly i feel like false son would be mutch cooler as a survivor it they actually polished his animations 🙁

[@Balagnugnes]

I might be tripping but i grabbed a hardlight afterburner and it gave me more lunar spikes If what i saw is actually what happened then growth might be dependent on general stat growth Im gonna go test then and i'll update this comment once ive tested this

[@Hacivat-i6r]

the most important tip: download false son m2 tweaks mod

[@sos3365]

W video but 17 is such a weird number to me idk why

[@betavo3293]

10:08 how the fuck is Antler shield underrated? This shit only deals minimal damage if you get hit

[@sgtdoug5225]

It may be in the comments already but what mod pack are you using to see the stats like that?

[@rndThursday]

looking glass mod

[@bryce1448]

The laser that doesn't pierce also can't crit

[@khilro9525]

Doesn't Acrid also not spawn from a drop pod though?

[@slobbylobby]

what mod do you use to show your stats on the right? i thought betterUI was taken down

[@rndThursday]

looking glass now!

[@leritykay8911]

Do prayer beads level up along with the player? I always thought they had their own seperate item levels. I swear I've earned several stacks of prayer beads between 2 levels

[@rndThursday]

they have separate levels. and it resets when you scrap

[@chairwood]

i don't know anything about the false son because i don't have the dlc yet

[@deltaace861]

False SwawS

[@welkijken]

This almost made me rebuy the dlc

[@varietynic17]

thanks dad for the education, by the way how was your trip to palm beach?

[@Oguh608]

I like False Son as a character but the difference in quality between him and the other survivors is too egregious so I won't be personally playing him until they finish him.

[@blazingbolt51]

What stat mod is that

[@k90v85]

5:00 aint that the old wiki?,

[@fabclippers2632]

I know about all the bugs and thats all.

[@CarmenLC]

does chef count as melee…

[@Jaxsol]

Why does blud pronounce wiki as "weekee"

[@petrikhorr]

this was a good pizza video

[@yourdemiseishere]

We dont know because we just play paladin instead.

[@noodleman2560]

I knew all these

[@rndThursday]

well now you do

[@thegodpharaohsraven8538]

Stop the cap

[@noodleman2560]

@@rndThursday You’re right I lied forgive me goat

[@DeSilly]

HI MR THURSDAY!!!!!!!!!!!

[@rndThursday]

hey silly

[@blooga]

HI DE

[@blooga]

HI DE

[@DeSilly]

​@@bloogaHI GOOGA HI GOOGA

[@hibilbo4755]

ah yes 14

[@geo42715]

This guy can't count in his own list.

[@proboscismonkey7007]

I knew all these things...

[@HarveyJackson1967]

Smart boy!

[@rndThursday]

you're welcome

[@bucko3k.746]

Idk if someone else has already said this, but if you charge his beam and then hold the key again afterwards, it'll keep the beam going until its timer resets. So if you have bandolier and pick one of its drops up then itll end the beam but other words at the start of a run this can be helpful.

[@azchhn]

Didnt they fix it in the first patch and introduced slam hover bug which was also fixed?

[@Tatercon]

Both were fixed yeah

[@spacenumber1149]

should I get the DLC

[@rndThursday]

pc: yes console: idk, maybe

[@spacenumber1149]

@@rndThursday thank RISKOFRAINMAN

[@k90v85]

​@@rndThursdayps4 been fixed

[@y0shii154]

Having more growth is nice and all but that cooldown to get all the spikes back is so slow

[@DragonUH]

unlucky

[@HypeBoyNic]

Based

[@B1g_GR33N]

False son is the best survivor in the game tbh, and by that i mean how powerfull he is bc if u look at his animations he is the WORST survivor in the game