1715 Improving The Copper Coil Burner As A Heater

[@neilorourke71]

If this guy was my science teacher growing up, I 100% would've been a chemist. He's mesmerizing

[@Peter-jo3wt]

My favorite science teacher was merely funny. While he inspired my curiosity, I believe I learned much more from that, than I ever did from him. Pity.

[@UnindictedCo-Conspirator]

Exactly! He understands it and truly wants you to get it as well

[@scienceworksinmysteriouswa9463]

thank you for making all these heating videos. its a really big deal and seeing where all this is evolving has been entertaining but really, and thank you again, its SO valuable. please keep letting your curiosity and creativity wander here. the comparison of fuels, the mantle, the "cheap alternative" couching the projects, just thank you very much.

[@xanadu6802]

Robert is today's Mr. Wizard! Love your experiments!!!

[@Forestduck1]

Man you are a legend Robert! God Bless you and your family!

[@toml.8210]

I don't understand why we didn't think of this stuff at university- all of us being math, science, and engineering students. But good on him. 😀

[@petercoutu4726]

One thing that you can do to increase the alcohol concentration while making the flame more visible is to simply add a salt either normal table salt or Epsom salts that will impart metallic ions that will make the flame glow an Orange color

[@branni6538]

How much per litre? Cheers.

[@vaio4908]

@@branni6538 according to the taste😀

[@TxBoi4891]

​@@vaio4908🤣 🤣 🤣

[@skydivekrazy76]

I love that you are helping Europe keep warm this winter!

[@SNEEDANDBREED]

Do you know whatll keep Europe warm this winter? Stopping the sanctions... oh and a time machine before the US and UK blew up a couple of pipelines.

[@SNEEDANDBREED]

Oh and arresting the greenie deathcult psychos

[@Nagipuka]

@@SNEEDANDBREED I guess you watch Russia Today

[@SNEEDANDBREED]

@@Nagipuka No, I have two eyes and ears that work. Sanctions = not buying energy. They were buying gas and oil from Russia. They inserted themselves in a conflict to which they have no alliance or treaty. They ignored their own guarantees to the minsk agreement, and frankly you didnt give 2 fucks about the civilians in Ukraine until CNN told you to. GFY

[@Nagipuka]

@@SNEEDANDBREED As if Russia was following the Minsk Agreements. If you had a brain you would know that energy prices mostly come from speculation and not supply.

[@someoneelse1904]

This is absolutely amazing! I’m constantly amazed at how simple, yet effective, all these design tweaks and ideas are. You’re such a valuable source of knowledge and wonder, Robert. Love it 👍🏼

[@charliynicholls3724]

Phenomenal!! I build these coil ones for the homeless for the winter. But was really wondering how to make them more 'powerful'. You're great! And super awesome to watch! Thank you for this!!!!

[@kennyclement2823]

Living in tornado Alley, where we also get blizzards and winter ice storms, to take the power lines down, this thing can really be a lifesaver! Thank you greatly

[@IrishvintageTVRadio]

As a recent subscriber I must say your video's are excellent, I learn something new in each. Keep up the great work. 👍

[@billmeade9029]

Ran across your channel about a month or so ago and immediately subscribed just wanted to thank you for not only the Imformation you provide but the entertainment as well 👍

[@mustseevideos7777]

I feel warmer just watching this Robert! lol

[@brucereichert6509]

When you have your mind on a subject, you really go all out.

[@woodworks2123]

Your a gift to mankind Rob. There will be a statue one day of you.

[@dansmith6909]

Just lately every bloody subject i go down the youtube rabbit hole on has a Mr Murray-Smith video on it, i do appreciate particularly the whole "improving" word.

[@A5kY0urs3lf1st]

Hi Robert. Everyone needs a grandad like you! Your just such a fun quirky stress free guy! Great family father/son/daughter fun projects to build and learn at the same time. My question is Robert. What gauge is stainless steel. Does it matter? Ooo and how long would that glass you had of alcohol last burning?

[@stevenc5227]

@Bill the grandad that keeps blowing up the shed you mean lol. I also wondered how long that heater would burn for Ethanol Methanol is around £13 a gallon and that's the cheapest i could find, so would have to last a long time to be worth it. Also that heater would be ok for outside garage or workshop, but not in a house the ceiling would be turning black after a while, its not 100% clean.

[@douglasjones5880]

This is the best yet , bless you sir.

[@briandonovan1257]

Your inspiration has been fantastic. I made a copper coil lamp in a pint jar and it worked well. But I then put a SS mesh mantle with a lid on it and it worked even better. But when I put it into my version of your heater with the cake pan top and bottom, the extra heat trapped in there turned the lamp into a jet torch, burning well over 1,000° F on the top pan, burning 91% isopropyl alcohol. Thanks dude, for the help and fun!!!

[@victoryfirst2878]

I have to say BRAVO Robert. Now this is a man size heater. This really burns very well with lots of heat. Look forward to see the next step up fella. Peace vf

[@johnparrish9215]

Thanks!

[@TgWags69]

You can tell you've been experimenting quite a bit before recording. You are absolutely covered in soot lol 😄👍

[@1JasonBradly]

The carbon from the felt rubs off onto the hands rather easily.

[@catsandcarsringtailgang6188]

Ah-ha,. I noticed louvered shades in windows sooty

[@bonniefrench9884]

Absolutely fantastic ! I've ordered copper pipe and carbonfiber, and 2 1/2 " wide stainless chimney pipe. Can't wait to assemble it. Love your videos !

[@sherlockstu]

Did you get it to light?

[@agoogleaccount2861]

Been toying around with heat exchangers etc. . ethanol has a desire to permeate terra Cotta efficiently and naturally. I used to used crushed flower pots or an aquarium gravel made of porous material in an iron pot soaked with alcohol for plastic bending Ever thought about a wick from the carbon put in a tiny terra Cotta pot or on a bathroom tile instead it'll vaporize Fuel very well

[@knickly]

I've been thinking about zeolite impregnated with calcium chloride as a phase change thermal energy storage material, in order to release heat after the flame is extinguished, especially while sleeping.

[@angelusmendez5084]

Brilliant design, thanks for sharing 👏

[@MinionTheFirst2024]

thank you, sir - it works in my outdoor meditation building!!!! Very warm, very!!!!

[@averyintrusive7610]

I really enjoy the videos. Thanks for taking the time to bring me along.

[@occidentadvocate.9759]

I like this dudes enthusiasm.

[@colleenforrest7936]

Rob invents the Fire Flute!

[@WayneTheSeine]

Love it, and love your enthusiasm more. Always a great pleasure watching your videos.

[@simongross3122]

It's so much fun watching you play with fire...

[@dennisdanich7190]

I have a French LeGrillon Alcohol stove, it came with a 25mm cotton wick, I replaced it with a wick made of wood stove door gasket material. I make coffee every morning using it to heat my Moka pot , I can fry eggs Burgers, cook a pork loin in a half hour. This stove puts out heat. A small tent is warmed with one burner, adjust the flame to burn blue an little CO2 is created. Smaller heaters can be made with 1/2 inch wicks for personal warmers. Alcohol is a safe fuel, the French stoves were packed with horse hair to prevent a pool of fire forming if tipped, I use fiberglass insulation. Alcohol fire is quickly extinguished with water and will not burn on water like some fuels will do. I intend on building a stove like you designed. THANKS!

[@dcchase124]

Robert, have you considered attaching a something like a lantern mantle to the top where the inner copper pipe came out of the top of the plant pot? Then it could double as a plant pot heater and light source. --Great content!

[@karlmyers6518]

Love this one. Especially the last one as I think it warms you just seeng a flame. I think its time to get ready for a cold winter if you live in Europe its better be safe than sorry but I everyone is welcome to come around if you need a cuppa and to warm your hands

[@vandall0160]

Now to just add a sand battery for the pass through to store the heat, and the ability to shut off and ignite the fuel when you wish. Excellent experiment!

[@davidpritchett855]

This seems to be basically the exact way that a kerosene heater works. Usually they have a roughly 6 in diameter cotton tube with mop-like fringe hanging into the kero reservoir. I may try my hand at making one out of carbon felt since they usually only last about 2 years with consistent use.

[@RupertBruce]

Another for the steam punk collection 🙂 You could use a brass end-cap as a snuffer and reduce evaporation when not in use.

[@aCalmHinduCow]

Yeah, I'm not clear on how one would safely snuff this out if they needed to. Slide a larger diameter pipe that has a cap on the top of it over top of the pipe with the 1 mm holes? Also, those living in a small space would need something that can be kept safely out of the way and out of traffic and not accidentally be tripped over or bumped in some way. It would also be really cool if a Big Buddy heater could be safely converted to work on fuels other than propane, which is getting expensive. I wonder if they can be powered by ethanol somehow.

[@chrisbaker3066]

I always wondered what Dellboy would do when he retired!!!!!!!! I love these videos you do though!

[@pippalongstrum4780]

Brilliant!! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

[@gordonf1997]

Hi Robert, could you kindly look at using lard (or similar) as a fuel? Thanks for all your work.

[@triumphmanful]

got pigs ?

[@storetor]

Great job Now you have to make a exhaust ejector for these burners, with a heat exchanger, so only cold fumes are ejected through a ventilation passage Cheers🏆✨

[@MCBxlx61]

Thanks, simple, and great! Probably a few ways to make this alot safer, maybe a metal tray that would contain the fuel if the jar cracks, more heat retaining mass around it will further protect. Would like to see your ultimate refinement of this one.

[@daviddickson3181]

I love these videos. They make me want to get my tools out

[@woodworks2123]

I got a bit of jute webbing from b&q cut it to width and wrapped lengthways around the pipe, it's very cheap, and has been working great the last 2 days.

[@yougkuan9198]

Thank You for all this out of the box inspiration Sir! ; D

[@amyself8008]

Brilliant!!!! You are a true genius!!! Thank you for sharing. ❤

[@pattayaguideorg]

Mate, you never disappoint with your vids!

[@AndreaDingbatt]

Gleefully Done Robert! 😎Cool as F!! Grateful Thanks, Especially as the Weather is a little more Wintery Now! You are Inspiring Fun and use "Plain " English, (Lol!) so it's much Easier to understand what you are Explaining! Thank you Very Much, From Andréa and Critters. .. ...XxX....

[@bobgade6733]

I never trust glass of ceramic for burning. It inevitably cracks or breaks. Usually I just modify to use exclusively metal aspects aside from fuel and wick. Even as a base, I use makeshift cooling fins, which only increases the heat output for a given area.

[@triumphmanful]

I took an old Aladin metal kerosene lamp base and used it as a base for the alcohol reservoir ! No glass to brake or spill the alcohol. I changed the cloth wickj to felt carbon cloth and it never burns down ! FYI

[@Beatlefan67]

Fantastic Robert thankyou.

[@carlbrown138]

love your videos hope you continue and show ways to heat cheaply

[@manicminer8813]

You're a star Robert, absolutely brilliant. Keep them coming 👍

[@Eff-U-Kay]

New subscriber/fan as of today Robert. Love your presentation and infectious enthusiasm. I'm out shopping tomorrow for the bits and bobs for this build and also want to use the top portion to incorporate the infrared heater in your more recent build.

[@shaun1283]

Great thanks you have given me much knowledge i can use in my projects and perhaps even keep me warm 😁 👍

[@12thsonofisrael]

Thank you!

[@saeedhossain6099]

your laugh is so infectious, love it

[@mikebond6328]

I buy carbon felt at Walmart or Amazon as air filter medium.

[@mikebond6328]

Very cheap.

[@mikebond6328]

@Jack Warner Why don’t you buy from Amazon?

[@Hapenparadise]

@Jack Warner read in comments guy found it at Fuel Cell Earth on internet.

[@shawndunnett4546]

Thanks

[@kevinthomas5992]

absolutely brilliant ,just come across you buddy thanks to Tim from fair play now.

[@grzeslaff]

Dear Robert, have you heard about something called H-CAT, couple of guy few years back were trying to do pot heater using HHO gas and powdered grain from catalytic converters. They were getting some fine results, and i wonder what would be Your take on it. Thanks for keeping us amazed.

[@RalfyCustoms]

Fantastic Rob, I've a huge workshop thats actually a world war 2 Navy "shed" brick built with no installation what so ever, come winter the water inside freezes up, and I'm yet to find a workable heating solution

[@triumphmanful]

have you ever seen evacuated tube heaters.? They require no antifreeze liquid, no pumps no electricity to work. Just connected to your home heating system and viola free heat. When the sun hits the tubes, they start to produce heat. There are you tube videos about them. There is a guy in Sugarloaf, Pennsylvania, USA who shows his setup. FYI

[@RockDove5212]

These are fantastic!!!!!!

[@TimeSurfer206]

Copper fiber is also available at Big Box Hardware Store as a Plumber's Heat Shield. I'm not so sure about the Plant Pot. It increases the heat of the ethanol storage, and I see a potential for a nasty BOOM.

[@ChristieNel]

This is really fantastic. It's reminiscent of my Aladdin lamp, which also uses a round wick, but draws air through the bottom along the inside. They burn clean, blue and very hot. I wonder if you could try something like this, maybe a third tube around the two inner tubes for drawing air?

[@1JasonBradly]

Oh I like that idea!

[@victoryfirst2878]

Would be nice to know how long this heater would burn. Maybe change the glass container to prevent a house fire. Nice to know how much heat would be needed to heat an average size room ?? This is just so COOL Robert. Would bet you that this would outperform an electric portable heater. Keep on experimenting with this idea. I am sure you will move this up a notch. Have a great day fella experimenter.

[@tisserandstephane7845]

This device can help many people in Ukraine : it's hard to leave without électricity with négatives temperatures Well done !

[@Twistedmetal-qe8kx]

Anyone else wondering how sooty Robs ceiling is getting. Lol Great alcohol burner, by the way.

[@Henroin42]

wow its simply the fabric to clean the copper pipes, i have it here, thank you very much from Germany again, we are still getting ready for the winter! ;) What do you do with these heaters? Sounds like you are studying it for many years. Would be interesting to know how much fuel it needs per hour

[@triumphmanful]

exactly my thoughts too ! How much alcohol it uses per hour and the cost comparison to other fuels such as kerosene !Thanks

[@toml.8210]

The carbon felt is a plumber's item, that you put behind your pipe so you don't burn what's behind it, as you apply a flame for soldering.

[@deborahhock4903]

Plus, metal gets cold fast. Paraffin candle & 4 clay fleer pots. They must all fit into each other, one up, one down, one up with tin can lid folded into a U, then one up with hole on top, another time can lid , U shaped. Will burn for 3 days & keep chill out of air.

[@obinstefjord8079]

think yer just havin' too much fun, m8... love yer channel!!!

[@arnokosterman231]

if you see the part in the dark you see the spacks around it rotating😍 toroyde olways has more heath transitions if diverent energy translations at the same time😍 nice flame🙏 behavieure 🙏

[@knickly]

Seems for the first undrilled tube design, the inner tube could have a pipe cap on the end to prevent spills - unless evaporation inside that tube is a major component of the fuel supply.

[@cyberlightbeing]

Great video Robert! How toxic are the fumes from this in a house / room?

[@zillamill]

Rubbing Alcohol emissions are non toxic the byproduct is water vapor and straight carbon atoms so if you have an incomplete burn you can get carbon buildup but that's it

[@rayblazejko6908]

Inspired me Robert . Cheers again

[@andrewallason4530]

I’m thinking that an aluminium extrusion with a central ‘tube’ for the flue and multiple fins running it’s length would make an excellent heating element with this at its core. JB weld the extrusion to the jar lid, add a few air holes, presto, a safe indoor heater.

[@Bushcraft-xz6xd]

Ive been experimenting with alcohol stoves for over a decade and there are no end of designs to try. For a small heater I favoured an empty Sterno can/chafing fuel can stuffed with carbon felt. This will not spill if knocked over and will provide hours of heat on a fill and is dead easy to snuff out. Adding a small mesh mantle is something i never tried and I might just have to try that now.

[@AB-C1]

FANTASTIC!! Cheers from London 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

[@qbertque]

Thx for all the vids Rob, showing how to make the kit easily and cheap is great, BUT, what we realy need at this time is the cost effectiveness of the fuel?

[@quadq6598]

Excellent, thank you.

[@WarrenG007]

hey there Robert what your experimenting with is basically what I have in as a heating system in my house ,it's called "a brick central" the fuel I use is heating oil it's gravity fed and the reservoir is fed in from the base and the control is is done via a standard oil control valve that are used on a aga it's made by a company called HESS . the reservoir is a bit like a cooking pot a number of holes are around the base it also uses a balancing air valve all of this is done without any electric it allso has a coiled water pipe that heats my water by using the thetmo siphon principal.

[@triumphmanful]

Bobby old boy ! Could you show the various temps (in Farenhite for us Yanks ) of the stages of your heater/lamp ? You could use a hand held thermo. that has a red laser beam. Relatively cheap and available. I have one and really like how I can get the temps. of doors, windows, ceilings, heat vents, and more, with it. Well worth the price ! You probably have one already ! Thanks for your expertise & wisdom !

[@Hangman1957-d7e]

Yes that would look nice in your living room

[@1JasonBradly]

The very first thing I did when I saw the forever wick was to make wicks for my Methyl hydrate coil burner. I had an issue where I used a 5” tall jar and it would always go out and not burn the bottom 1/3 of the fuel. The forever wick did no better in drawing the fuel up to the copper to be vaporized and burnt. In your jar experiment I believe your wick was not pushed into the coil far enough. For I have made a coil burner in a 2L jar successfully though the longest “oil lamp” wick I could get was 5” long. There again it seemed when the space between the fuel level and the top was 3” or better the burner stopped. That when I realized it can only wick so high. This idea is intriguing, thanks. Edit: Also in my coil burners when I had the copper tubes ends submerged then too it would not operate.

[@ShoutOfCoffee]

What kind of sorcerery it is? This is some very powerful magic. 😊 👏

[@victoryfirst2878]

What material would work better for the heater tank ?? The glass part of the heater is the weak link, I have seen these puppies just crack, explode and start a fire. Robert, would plating the copper pipe with silver metal plating on both copper pipes would increase the intensity of the fuel being vaporized before the burn. Just an idea fella. Good day.

[@danpatterson6937]

Beautiful in its simplicity. Have you measured temperature in a room between the wicked and mantle heaters (for example)?

[@webalistic]

A problem with the flower pot contraption is that measurements show it generates a lot of particulate matter. More than the heat source on its own. Apart from the general fire hazard, there's a less visible risk.

[@felewoverthecoocoo2556]

YOU REALLY ARE BRILLIANT MR. SMITH!!! Can you tell the burn time and quantity of fluid and are you able to measure the btu's?

[@LOFIGSD]

Some great ideas, liking the copper with holes, copper pipe not something I have to hand, ideas for other household items to substitute? I tried similar setup with a camping heater, which is the same idea as your mantle, 16 quid on Amazon.

[@russellheisey4659]

The Germans are gonna need a lot of those this winter. I used a metal trashcan with a rolled up paper towel as a wick with ethanol fuel during a winter where they cut the steam off from our unit just so I could heat up the bathroom as needed. Just be sure to have plenty of fresh air so as not to asphyxiate yourselves!

[@MrDuffnote]

Brilliant stuff - I,m inspired. Would a stainless steel bread bin make an ideal heat radiator or even a mini cooker?

[@mikespark72]

this is a beautiful thing! Do you have any idea how long that ethanol would last in that large jar? I assume Methanol could be substituted right? Methanol is better isnt it right? (because it introduces no CO if the burn is complete), or is ethanol the same in that regard?

[@5roundsrapid263]

Methanol would work fine, but it puts out a bit less heat.

[@phoeberayecarrara7074]

Hello Robert, what a brilliant idea! Will it work with denaturated alcohol, too? Thank you very much

[@damianmaynard2592]

This is top notch and love you enthusiasm Robert. The only thing i ponder over here is when you put the plant pot over the top. With the pot covering it and heating the jar containing the fuel, does this pose a potential problem of exploding some way? Could the heat cause the jar to crack , spilling fuel all over the place and igniting? Just a bit paranoid about giving it a go in the greenhouse but burning my house down on the process. Thanks.

[@handyhippie6548]

i have some 3"x 12"-14" copper pipe scraps that i have been thinking of making a small heating stove from for my small teardrop camper that will burn charcoal briquettes such as you use for a BBQ cooker since copper is a great metal for absorbing, and radiating heat. can you think of any problems i might have from heating the copper with a flame in this stove, such as a poisonous gas? i have them sitting on top of my woodstove now as well as a few disc brake rotors from autos to provide additional mass for heat retention and i have no real issues, and they retain, and radiate heat better than the steel even after the fire in the stove goes out, which is what gave me the idea in the first place.

[@lst1194]

confused by your video numbering system. 1707 and the next is 1715. thought I missed 8 videos. love the vids!

[@petten33]

I ❤ this genius.

[@seancripps4897]

Thank you sir.

[@boedayious4993]

Asking if any problems with ceramic pot getting too hot surrounding glass fuel jar. Any boiling pressurized fuel issues. Sorry if this was asked before -- wanted your thoughts of fire danger. Was going to make something like this BUT leave an air gap to keep fuel reservoir temp below flash or exploding vapor temperature. With heat going up into ceramic pots and heat sinks ( beers cans or steel cans with cut Finns) Thank You !!!!!🎉.

[@cherilynnfisher5658]

Merry Christmas Robert OMG! I can't wait to build this heater! Awesome! Thank you!