Lol, in the 2600 version of Rampage Ralph's name has an exclamation point, like the programmers were touting the fact that you could play him on the Atari and not the NES.
@arcadedude19874 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your videos lately and wanted to say that I really appreciate how natural and articulate you are when it comes to describing these games and how you feel about them. The footage and narration also lines up great and is super informative. Thanks for making these!
@TheZelda3604 жыл бұрын
The Atari 2600 was way before my time but I have the Atari Flashback 9 I love collecting retro games and consoles
@JohnRiggs4 жыл бұрын
Still some great games on it.
@3ambreakbeats9774 жыл бұрын
Can that play carts and have hdmi and play 7800 games?
@jadenstardust4654 жыл бұрын
If you haven't heard about it definitely look into getting a Retron 77 it lets you play Atari 2600 cartridges. Check out your local thrift shops or whatever before buying any games online though I've been lucky so far and I've been able to pick up some cartridges for a buck.
@samos83673 жыл бұрын
@@nintega_64 That isn't their fault. Atari doesn't own the rights to any of those games. Also, the Flashback consoles aren't even made by Atari. They are made by AtGames with licensing permission from Atari.
@ilj12594 жыл бұрын
A few more games that were on both Atari & Nes : California games, Commando, Spy Hunter, Galaga, Ghostbusters, Gyruss you could also include super hero games such as Spiderman superman and sports games but they are not really the same games.
@demonsty4 жыл бұрын
galaga was not on 2600
@reagandow8504 жыл бұрын
demonsty - it was Galaxian wasn’t it?
@Colonel-Llama4 жыл бұрын
demonsty Both Galaxian and Galaga are on the 2600. The latter was released in 2019 as "Galagon" and is very close to the arcade.
@demonsty4 жыл бұрын
@@Colonel-Llama no way! i gotta see that. cool!
@demonsty4 жыл бұрын
@@reagandow850 yeah
@TheRichFather4 жыл бұрын
I so loved Rampage on the 2600. I made it through the level cycle on one guy repeatedly back in the day.
@brianjl74774 жыл бұрын
I had a lot of the Nintendo games for Atari, well, Donkey Kong, DK Jr., and Mario Bros. I think Mario Bros. was a silver label game and my copy of DKJ was a red lable, but I think that was a re-release from the Coleco version. By the way, it did have three levels for DKJ (omitting the one with the spring board and the dive-bomning bird) - the DK cart did only have the two stages. They were all kind of rough but I played them all - I mean, it's what I had, right? Man, when that NES came out I was blown away!
@KomradeMikhail4 жыл бұрын
More apt comparison between versions on both Atari 2600 and 5200... or even 7800. Considering that Atari themselves used the upgraded Pac-Man on 5200 to sell the new system.
@humacao014 жыл бұрын
I didnt know Kung Fu Master was on 2600.. That was my favorite game growing up, my only reason to tag along for laundry.
@lolochump55504 жыл бұрын
It is on both Atari 2600 & 7800.
@humacao014 жыл бұрын
Oh man I tell you one thing we really needed our imagination to make most of these work. Thank GOD for the manuals...
@reagandow8504 жыл бұрын
humacao01 - but, that’s why we have good imagination bud todays kids. ;-)
@davidaltieri14944 жыл бұрын
What about the Tengen version of Ms. Pac-Man for the nes. It was great !
@iangates88154 жыл бұрын
i discovered klax on midway classics for the og xbox got addicted to playing that one . loved that midway classics mostly because of the hours of commentary from the game designers,about the history of the games. wish i could find a robo tron cabinet. cha ching baby ,my lid would flip.
@astrotrance4 жыл бұрын
I love that Atari had the audacity in their advertising to act as if they could compete head-to-head with the NES, even claiming superiority, as in "who wants to play with a robot?"
@nick6var4 жыл бұрын
Everyone, of course!
@Trusteft4 жыл бұрын
While I never played most of these games on the 2600 or NES, I think the 2600 did a good job in most of them. Even Rampage. I mean, even had the helicopters flying in the background. That's attention to detail! Which yes the buildings lacked, but I am sure it was as fun.
@atarileaf4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I'm both a big arcade fan as well as Atari and NES fan. Most of my NES games are actually arcade ports.
@BrettWeissRetroGamer4 жыл бұрын
I love these kinds of comparison videos, and good to see Atari getting some attention.
@JohnRiggs4 жыл бұрын
I didnt' get an NES until 1989 so my Atari was all I had.
@BrettWeissRetroGamer4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnRiggs I got my NES Christmas of 1987. Present from my brother. I was 20 and still playing a lot of Atari, ColecoVision, Odyssey2 and Intellivision. :)
@ArlieTheDrifter4 жыл бұрын
A lot of people say the Atari 2600 version of Pac Man was trash, which, yeah, it's a pretty shabby looking port... but I think it's the most Atari 2600-ish game there is. The simple look and more simple game design, the sounds, it reeks of that true essence of Atari gaming. I freakin' love it.
@mellecompte41634 жыл бұрын
Donkey Kong (as well as Jr and many other arcade ports) were made for the 2600 by Coleco, not Nintendo, as you stated. Nintendo was exclusively an arcade manufacturer at the time.
@lazarushernandez58274 жыл бұрын
Yep. Coleco had licensed games from Nintendo and Sega back then.
@junybuckles79274 жыл бұрын
Thank you I've never seen that gaming historian episode. Great video I've started watching your channel in the past few days.
@JohnRiggs4 жыл бұрын
It's one of his super old episodes (over 10 years old now!) but always stuck with me.
@matthewford34474 жыл бұрын
JohnRiggs Yeah it seems a lot of his videos seems to stick on to a lot of people for a long and I think it's due to the fact of how much time and effort he puts into his videos.
@Colonel-Llama4 жыл бұрын
Those are some that i could think about. Some of these were released as homebrews on the 2600. Ghostbusters, Galaxian, Galaga, Mappy, Pooyan, Space Invaders, California Games, Road Runner, Track & Field, Boulder Dash
@atarileaf4 жыл бұрын
Soy hunter and Super sprint appeared on both and if you count famicom there is also galaxian, space invaders, and pooyan. Also crazy climber appeared on both I believe
@JohnRiggs4 жыл бұрын
oh, you're right! There was a Spy Hunter on Atari.
@atarileaf4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnRiggs omg i just realized i wrote soy hunter 🤣😂
@intel386DX4 жыл бұрын
Front line as well :)
@bransonbenson95202 жыл бұрын
@@atarileaf Soy Hunter sounds like a good game lol.."The lesser known Burger Time spin-off" lol😅😅
@assemblyassembly4 жыл бұрын
Sigflup here, the limitations of the 2600 are actually pretty interesting and colors how much you appreciate some games on it. There was no frame buffer and no sprites. You literally drew the raster beam as it went down the screen
@80s_Gamr4 жыл бұрын
"This is the NES version here"... Thanks! That version of was so close to the 2600 version I couldn't tell.
@barttheraven4 жыл бұрын
Thanks John; this was exactly the video I was looking for. Been researching to eventually make my own homebrew.
@barttheraven4 жыл бұрын
Good thing you didn't mention Super Pitfall.
@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism4 жыл бұрын
YOU FORGOT ABOUT ME, Q*BERT! @#$*!
@JohnRiggs4 жыл бұрын
!@#?@!! How could I. I feel terrible.
@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnRiggs lol
@johneygd4 жыл бұрын
Space invaders and galatic were also on both the nes & atari 2600, am glad i owned the nes as a kid.
@stevesteve05214 жыл бұрын
Man John just keeps putting out these great videos consistently. Thank you John I was a fan of you in metal Jesus when you talked about my favorite handhelds the Gameboy and now I’m a fan of your channel. Keep up the great work!
@JohnRiggs4 жыл бұрын
I need to do a 'game boy' video soon, too.
@stevesteve05214 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to it👍
@colinmcdonald24994 жыл бұрын
Mario Brothers was one of my top 10 all time 2600 games. The physics of the ice blobs and frozen platforms is always omitted from videos like yours and that " Immortal" guy ( why is he immortal???) The levels with the Ice blobs were awesome!
@gamebunkeradventures45754 жыл бұрын
I really loved this mr Riggs! I had no idea some of these were on the 2600, I remember dig dug fondly as a young kid. Along with Enduro racer, river raid and combat it was one of my absolute favorites!
@JohnRiggs4 жыл бұрын
I would play Dig Dug and dive through all the dirt so it'd just be a blank screen.
@retrorewindllc93634 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! love u for doing this vid bro!!! Nes Atari carts are my absolute fav!!!! So fun to try to find, play & collect or resale for the store & watch people go "wait,..what? This games on Atari too?!?!?"...... hahaha...love it!!!!!
@0to624 жыл бұрын
We also bought the 2600 in 1982, I was with my brother in the car and the 2600 was in my lap! it was like magic.. full joy and excitement!
@SA778884 жыл бұрын
5:53 That looks decent for 2600 9:49 Another decent one......a bit of ' limit pusher ' for the 2600 I would imagine. Could almost be a NES game.
@ivanvargas24254 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. Never played a Atari and prob never will but it was cool to see the difference. Thx for the video.
@funkydmunky51004 жыл бұрын
Nintendo wasn't making games for Atari. Donkey Kong was a Colleco license and they produced the property.
@thorstenguenther4 жыл бұрын
Nuntendo licensed the cinsole rights to Coleco, and the home computer rights to Atari, to be precise. So Atari wrote the 400/800 vesions of Donkey Kong, Donkey.Kong Junior and Mario Bros.
@SvennyMcG4 жыл бұрын
Your channel is quickly becoming a favourite of mine to tune in to, so much great content Riggs. Unless I missed it - how about a 5200 vs NES or 7800 vs NES?
@JohnRiggs4 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy!
@williamshores48824 жыл бұрын
Forgot Track & Field, Othello, Ghostbusters, Summer Games, Winter Games, California Games, and Q*bert. Technically you can say Golf and Ice Hockey as well but if a KZbin video is much longer than 12 minutes, I might not watch it.
@bonemasterd14 жыл бұрын
This was a fun video. I hope you do another one. There are a few games for the Famicom you could mention. Galaxian, Crazy Climber, Front Line
@JohnRiggs4 жыл бұрын
Totally!
@MasterRoshi89744 жыл бұрын
I love these games!!
@Beizeiten784 жыл бұрын
I actually love the PAC MAN and Donkey Kong ports on Atari, but solely for the nostalgia.
@JohnRiggs4 жыл бұрын
same here.
@jwbolin4 жыл бұрын
Qbert was on both for sure 👍
@jNetDowling4 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel this morning, and I gotta say, this is the kinda content I am here for!
@JohnRiggs4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And welcome!!
@PhantasyStarved4 жыл бұрын
Everyone hates on the Atari 5200, but back in the day I loved having really good-looking renditions of Dig Dug, Pac-Man, Pengo, Jungle Hunt etc etc.
@johnholliday70424 жыл бұрын
3:29 I was kinda curious here when you said according to lore but didn’t finish
@replicant10274 жыл бұрын
John Holliday I have a feeling he was going to say that Donkey Kong Jr is the current DK according to lore.
@JohnRiggs4 жыл бұрын
@@replicant1027 Exactly that. Was going to mention that Cranky Kong in Donkey Kong Country was the original Donkey Kong which makes modern DK DKjr.
@reagandow8504 жыл бұрын
John Holliday - me too!
@Kai0nTheMoon3 жыл бұрын
I remember when my dad went to buy our Atari. It was an upgrade to the Coleco and Intellivision, which I had been playing. And when I got home with my mom, my dad, a man who never played a video game in his life before or since, was sitting there on the floor playing Pole Position for like two hours straight, refusing to give up the controller.
@hektorlinko4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video! I have just about all of these games except for the Burger Time for Atari. Love your channel Brother! I also live in the Seattle area so hope to bump into you one day and Metal Jesus and the rest of the Northwest Crew! A++++++=
@kingvoxel65164 жыл бұрын
No... 2600 DK Jr had 3 stages... it had the stage with the sparks.
@JohnRiggs4 жыл бұрын
for the Atari?! oh man, I gotta go back and play it again.
@nick6var4 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@7thangelad5864 жыл бұрын
Cool showcase of games, Sir Riggs. I never owned an Atari but recognize some of the games from the C64 and IBM DOS days of gaming. Along those lines as a curiosity you should check out the DOS 3D reimagining of Pac-Man called 3-Demon. It was actually an awesome primitive game (and a little creepy to seven year old me!)
@hualni4 жыл бұрын
I wish Wizard of Wor was ported to the NES. I loved the music on that game.
@JohnRiggs4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah!
@theusher28934 жыл бұрын
Wizard of Wor was fantastic!
@bleirdo_dude4 жыл бұрын
Love the voice synthesis.
@JohnHassink4 жыл бұрын
Now you mention it - strange that it was never ported to NES. Would have been a hit, and it could have been a very fine conversion.
@danestegman1554 жыл бұрын
Good video! Nice comparing the NES versions to the Atari 2600 versions of the games!
@forcedfeedbackclassicgamer54994 жыл бұрын
True story: Rampage on 2600 was actually released AFTER the NES port. And yes, Klax was indeed the last officially licensed game released for the 2600, and yeah, it was PAL exclusive.
@JohnRiggs4 жыл бұрын
oh wow! good to know!
@intel386DX4 жыл бұрын
What about Acid drop and Save Marry? They are form 91 and 90 I think
@topherwaters804 жыл бұрын
intel386DX nah it was Klax
@FIXTREME2 жыл бұрын
2:46 I cannot stress just how much I love gingerbread kong
@gregoriocruz45304 жыл бұрын
The Tengen version of Pacman was identical to the Namco one, as far as I could tell. Tengen released a superior version of Ms Pacman for the NES. Too back you didn't feature that one.
@heavysystemsinc.4 жыл бұрын
Namco owned Tengen and Atari Games at the time. For all intents and purposes, Tengen Pacman IS Namco Pacman.
@DCeric4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's how I played MS Pacman on the NES the Tengen version was so awesome.
@SlayerRunefrost4 жыл бұрын
I grew up with the 2600 version of pac-man and didn't see the arcade or NES version for many years and it seemed unfamiliar and strange to me.
@Iraijus4 жыл бұрын
I really thought the Atari versions would be bad, but they seemed to be ok, actually. Just a lot blockier.
@patsfan4life4 жыл бұрын
Iraija some played very well like Phoenix for example
@bmkretrogaming76343 жыл бұрын
Iraijus one has to bear in mind that the two consoles are a generation apart from each other. Also the Atari VCS/2600 was a fairly early second generation home video game console. Thus it's not likely to compare/contrast all that favorably to the third generation Nintendo NES, but it's games were mostly good for their time.
@demonsty4 жыл бұрын
please make more of these. dont forget commando
@tysonasaurus63924 жыл бұрын
Dig Dug, Bump n Jump and Defender II on 2600 are pretty impressive visually
@redhead65984 жыл бұрын
Omission of Tengen Ms PAC Man. Better port of the arcade on NES.
@SirGriefALot4 жыл бұрын
DigDug on the 7800 was pretty good, I don't know if I had ever seen this version.
@DadRacer4 жыл бұрын
Great idea for a video!
@pem19744 жыл бұрын
You could pretty much say the same thing about *any* 2600 game... They get the job done! 😁
@nrood38214 жыл бұрын
as far as ive seen pacman has got released on most if not all systems. its a game that everyone likes to play
@SweatpantsJoeSportsAndMore4 жыл бұрын
Commando got an Atari 2600 version
@john2001plus4 жыл бұрын
Dig Dug on the 2600 is surprisingly entertaining.
@IllmatikRebelTV3 жыл бұрын
The Atari 7800 had these games as well. But actually didn't know there was a 2600 version of Popeye. That's awesome
@IllmatikRebelTV3 жыл бұрын
@Yurt Dweller I'll definitely check it out
@youforget1000thingsaday Жыл бұрын
I used to play Defender II at work. Miss it.
@aguilerajohn4 жыл бұрын
LOVE that princess tomato in the background
@Wheels85044 жыл бұрын
Two fantastic consoles and video game companies. Too bad Atari stopped making consoles.
@wisteela Жыл бұрын
Klax was indeed the last game released in Europe. Space Invaders was on the Famicom only. I think it was because they thought it was too old to release for the NES.
@MrMegaManFan4 жыл бұрын
3:31 Yeah I guess according to lore... what? You spliced it there and we have an unfinished thought.
@caseyatethebat4 жыл бұрын
Me: Mom can we stop for pacman Mom: We have pacman at home Pacman at home: 1:01
@bransonbenson95202 жыл бұрын
Me at home:😭😭😭
@teddybouka4 жыл бұрын
Atari pac-man was how I was first introduced to pac-man, loved it.
@petewillson2054 жыл бұрын
I do remember perfering it to ms pacman on atari 2600 because of the speed it went. MsPacman was so much slower. But back in the 80s we never expected arcade perfect. Honestly nes got closer, but still wasn't arcade perfect with new arcade games in the nes life.
@albdamned5774 жыл бұрын
I bet your 2600 review will include the phrase “it gets the job done”
@chasewhite87984 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content, love these
@Wajang14 жыл бұрын
Donkey Kong remains a favorite from the past.
@0oCHIRONo04 жыл бұрын
The Sea Hag does appear in the NES version of Popeye. She comes out after the first loop when the game begins to repeat.
@patsfan4life4 жыл бұрын
There’s a DK hack for the 2600 that turns the barrels into gingerbread men and Pauline into a Christmas gift..... fireballs are replaced by holiday gifts as well.....it’s quite fun!
@JohnRiggs4 жыл бұрын
Ha! I love it.
@livefreeprintguns2 жыл бұрын
Rare miss by leaving out Moon Patrol.
@exactspace4 жыл бұрын
You didn't cheat on Dig-Dug! I rented it once for NES back in the day.
@theannoyedmrfloyd39984 жыл бұрын
Defender 2 aka Stargate, and on the 2600 appeared with both names.
@intel386DX4 жыл бұрын
Yes and they got even title screens :)
@Curtis.Carpenter4 жыл бұрын
Goodmorning John! Hope you and your wonderful family are safe and sound. your beard is looking fresh today my man!! I've myself grown a crazy mustache since I cant see normal ppl and thus cant be judged hahaahH
@JohnRiggs4 жыл бұрын
Now's the time to experiment!!
@bitwize4 жыл бұрын
It is the nineties and there is apparently still time for the Atari 2600!
@TheBossOfProWrestling2 жыл бұрын
The 2600 version of Popeye did indeed have all three stages.
@lucentv4 жыл бұрын
I know Commando was. I remember that being one of the games I bought with my allowance when KB Toys was clearing all the 2600 games for $5 each.
@ammosophobia2 жыл бұрын
It is the nineties and there is time for Klax
@paisleyboxers4 жыл бұрын
We were talking about videogames? I just kept staring at that handsome guy and his corona hair!
@BillLambert4 жыл бұрын
I had these on the 8-bit Atari (400/800 series), and they looked a lot more like the NES versions than the 2600 versions.
@exactspace4 жыл бұрын
Dig-Dug came out for the NES too. I remember renting it, and it was easy to master. I'm in the US.
@samos83674 жыл бұрын
It was never published for the NES. Perhaps it was the sequel, Dig Dug II: Trouble in Paradise?
@GellyVelly4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE that Princess Tomato plaque!
@JohnRiggs4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kingvoxel65164 жыл бұрын
2600 Pacman that we got was NOT a prototype. I saw Todd Frye answer this question himself in a youtube video.
@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism4 жыл бұрын
Oh? So what was his excuse then lol?
@kingvoxel65164 жыл бұрын
@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism His excuse was he needed more ROM so he could reduce the flicker.
@hyzenthlay7151 Жыл бұрын
You got Pac-Man and Ms. Pac-man, but forgot Jr. Pac-Man Defender II on Atari (Also called Stargate) is very good with a second controller, as you have smart bombs, warp, and invincibility mapped to the fire, up and down buttons of the second joystick. Lots of people made their own 3 button foot pedal for this. I personally made my own arcade joystick with the 3 buttons added in.
@marcobrunello20404 жыл бұрын
Great vid, but 2600 DK Jr has three levels. 2600 Popeye has all three levels also.
@sam_644 жыл бұрын
When your dad shows you video games.
@K3nVV3 жыл бұрын
I knew of about half of these, but others I didn't, thanks, was interesting...
@paulpjr32243 жыл бұрын
Some of the games that were on both I enjoyed on the Atari so I skipped the NES versions of them and don't regret it. Two being Popeye and Defender. I have very fond memories of them. I actually might have had the world record of Defender because one day I was in a zone and didn't stop playing it because I wasn't dying so I went all the way to level 100 and I guess it just starts you back over to level 1 after 99. I gave up after getting there but my score was probably so high and back then there was no way to record it but I should of took a picture cause now no one would ever believe me. lol
@Sinn01004 жыл бұрын
I remember these games! The Nes did such a good job at really making those 2600 games pop. If I remember it right, the Nes version of Mrs. Pac Man is the only one other than the 2600 to feature everything on one screen. The Master System version might have better "graphics" (subjective) it did not look as good or arcade correct as the Nes. is the only
@JPROP-vb7sv3 жыл бұрын
I owned digdug for the NES as a kid.
@zackschilling43764 жыл бұрын
The enemies in Double dragon 2600 look like Star Trek characters with their colored shirts.
@razorpit3 жыл бұрын
Atari 2600 had a trackball for Centipede, Millipede and Missile Command!
@beezle19764 жыл бұрын
Is there a single game here that is a NES game? Theyre all games that are on both systems, but not a single one is a NES game.
@donalddressen30384 жыл бұрын
Defender 2 was my second ever NES game. Lots of time spent playing it. Actually played it the other day :).